>> thank ya'll for having me. >> we've got "the daily rundown" with peter alexander starting right now. >> president obama's moving forward with plans to hunt down isis militants. but reversing course on immigration. "meet the press" moderating chuck todd will join us with more on his exclusive interview with the president. and new numbers showing republicans leading in critical races in kentucky and arkansas, but democrats are holding on to the lead in colorado. plus, two former presidents and potential 2016 rivals teaming up today to launch a leadership program. presidents clinton and bush 43 together and live later this hour. good morning to you from washington. it is monday, september 8th, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." i'm peter alexander. we learned there is a new royal on the way. the duke and duchess are now expecting baby number two. congratulations. our top headline today,

president obama will make his case to the american people this wednesday for expanding the u.s. military campaign against isis. the speech is scheduled just one day before the 13th anniversary of the september 11th attacks. the u.s. is of course already broadening its military campaign in iraq, conducting another five air strikes on sunday in support of iraqi security forces. protecting the hadithah dam in western iraq which provides electric power to baghdad. one of the real questions right now is how soon will that campaign be broadened to include air strikes on the group's bases in syria. isis released new video just this weekend of its men humiliating and executing roughly 200 syria troops. the president says it is a mission that may take years to complete. >> what i'm going to be asking the american people to

understand is, number one, this is a serious threat. number two, we have the capacity to deal with it. here's how we're going to deal with it. i am going to be asking congress to make sure that they understand and support what our plan is. and it's going to require some resources i suspect above what we are currently doing. >> this is asking congress for a vote, an authorization of your strategy, this is not a -- what does that mean? define that. >> i'm confident i've got the authorization that i need to protect the american people. and i'm always going to do what's necessary to protect the american people. i do think it's important for congress to understand what the plan is, to have buy in, to debate it. >> chuck todd is nbc's political director and the moderator of "meet the press." off the big win for the miami dolphins this weekend. nice to see you in person. i want to get right to our conversation with the president and the speech coming up on wednesday.

what is the ask we should be anticipating from president obama of not just congress but of the american people? what do we anticipate? >> it doesn't sound like he's asking a lot other than, hey this is going to be similar to how we've gone after al qaeda. he's not asking to rally the country around a larger war effort. he's making a promise this isn't about expanding military operations and expanding the number of countries that somehow the u.s. military could be occupying. but it does seem as if he's asking the country to, despite the war wariness, to rally around what is going to be the same counterterrorism strategy about al qaeda and maybe two or three years ago he said al qaeda was on the run and it seemed like the entire counterterrorism strategy was about to be victorious, we have a new terrorist group that has to be taken on. >> they're articulating this is something that may not last months, but this could be a

while. >> can you believe this? this president was elected to get the country off a war footing. that was his hope. it's not happening. that's essentially what this is an admission, you know, there's going to be plenty of debate how this happened. the middle east seems to be clearly out of control after the arab spring. it just never put that jeanie back in the bottle. that said, this is a person that's going to be handing over the presidency where there's engaged military action in 2017. >> obviously with congress returning to town, we're starting to hear more from lawmakers. i want to hear what we just heard from mitch mcconnell. he says it's become clear that the president's plan to train and equip the militaries of partner nations as the u.s. draws down its conventional forces across the globe is not tenable. i believe he will have significant congressional support. so how much support -- >> trying to understand that statement a minute. on one hand, he seems to be very

critical of the idea. and then says we're on board. because on one half of the statement i think it makes it sound as if he's not happy the president took ground troops off the table, basically saying can you work with the coalition. i think that's what the president's challenge is on wednesday. is does he present a plan that seems to look more like bush 41 and jim baker and what they pulled off, that it's a real coalition, that you actually have arab states, you have potentially muslim troops that they're the boots on the ground. it's saudis, it's jordanians, it's turks. if that's what the president delivers on, then yes, i agree with mitch mcconnell, you'll see pretty big bipartisan support. >> you bring u.n. sunni states. that's as important as everything in this. likely stops could include saudi arabia. financing is critical to this process as well. it will change the dynamic if

the u.s. is invited into that region by the arab nations. that's like a really big -- >> it should. look, some distrust grew between particularly the saudis and the obama administration. all because this idea that the president didn't act in syria a year ago. the saudis were -- they didn't say it this way, but they wanted the u.s. to take assad out. then he backed off. then it became this idea, well, maybe the u.s. won't be there when we need him to be there. i think that's part of john kerry's challenge. not only to convince him that, hey, there's no space between the saudis and the united states, but it's also, hey, saudi arabia, all that money, all that military equipment, it's time for you to use it. >> your conversation made news on a series of topics. another one was immigration. the president said among other things he's made the decision to delay executive action on immigration. which is why i want to bring in our next guest who joins us on this topic. this is how the president

explained the delay. let's listen to part of the conversation. >> i want to make sure we get it right. >> it looks like politics. >> here's the other thing. about the politics of it. where we've had the surge of kids showing up at the border. a lot of americans started thinking, we've got this immigration crisis on our hands. when i take executive action, i want to make sure that it's sustainable. >> jose, let me get right to you. immigration reform groups already blasting the president for this. he says he's above politics. now it would seem he's using politic, to break a promise.

the national immigration law center saying it is breathtakingly harsh and short sighted. so is this the last straw? what exactly is the impact of this move by the president? >> the president has been really forth right, probably more than any other president in this country. he has taken a lot of opportunities to reach out to the latino community since he got elected. i've talked to him about nine times since he got elected. every single time, he has said, i am for immigration reform. i am with you latino community. i am doing everything i can to help begin the process that could see immigration reform in congress. we the republicans said no deal

for this year on immigration reform, the president came out and said, i'm going to tackle this problem before the end of the summer. why he said that date, i'm not sure. but i'll tell you, once you say something like that, it's very difficult later to say, you know what, i'm going to wait a few more months because that delay could mean up to 70,000 people being deported that maybe could qualify under some form of deferred action the president could bring up. 70,000 people. those are parents. those mother, and father. >> one of the key points you made was in many of these states that are up for grabs right now, i think the member was the hispanics make up 5% or fewer than the likely -- >> basically, there's a lot of red states and a lot of heavy white population states that are

in the 2014 battleground. the immigration, the surge on the border kind of brought up this feeling that the border isn't secure. you have all these states -- three of the four the states normally win. they don't feel as if you cite the immigration stuff it could hurt them. does the president think he can take this action if there's a republican senate? >> jose, get in there. >> politically speaking, if the president did something like this before the elections, and then in the states you mentioned, the democrats lose that state, they would then blame obama and blame

immigration for being -- >> no, that's the white house spin on this, they're saying it would be worse in that matter but there are others inside that white house that say hey, you know what, you're going to wish you had done it before because now it's going to make it. what if they're already gone? then what's the answer to that, right, jose? >> bringing it down to people, every single day, many of them have children born in this country, and they saw what the president said he would do by the end of the summer as really important. this change means people may not be here that could stay if the president had acted. >> jose diaz-balart, thank you.

chuck, congratulations. >> chuck, you're extraordinary, my friend. >> thank you, jose. it's not just immigration reform groups criticizing the president. some democrats are deeply frustrated with the white house as well. take a listen. >> it's clear that playing it safe is what is going on at the white house, among democratic circles. playing it safe means walking away from our val u 50s and our principles. playing it safe might win an election. sometimes you lose playing it safe also. >> most of them voted in favor of comprehensive bipartisan immigration reform. so they're on the record on that. >> much quieter were the red state senate democrats.

for me, our guest, president and ceo of the largest hispanic rights and advocacy organization in the u.s. thank you for being here. white house officials say the concern here is if the president uses executive power now and if the democrats lose the senate in november, then immigration reform could be blamed for the defeat that this may harm it in the future, going forward. is that an argument you buy? >> i know it's an argument that the president has made. i don't buy it. he could made the decision today. we can't say it be upheld. there's broad support among the american people, not just the latino community, to get this issue solved. the republicans walked away from this. the president set his own deadline and then failed to meet

it. what we want to see is a solution. i think the president had been well positioned to bring that -- bring that to the american people. what we're seeing here is that politics is being played on both sides of this by house republicans who squandered an opportunity to finally weigh in on this and the best chance we've had in decades. and yet we also see that the democrats have leaned into their fears on this issue. and i think we're seeing both parties are not able to handle this issue. what we're seeing is neither party has our back when it comes to immigration. >> one group advocating for latinos in this country. says, republicans hate us. democrats like us but don't folly respect us. so what is the next step for the latino community in this country right now going forward? what can you do now, given the president's latest announcement? >> like i said, it's

disappointing. i think it's fair to say there are a lot of discouraged folks out there. but we have no choice. weep got to go back out there to our community and say, really, you know what, we're not going to be asking you to vote for politicians. we clearly have to increase our political cloud. that means we have to continue to have our community show up at the polls. and we have to be able to send a message to our own community that when we go to the polls, we're voting for ourselves and for advancing this agenda. i think that 2014 in states like north carolina, even though chuck just mentioned that it's, you know, our population is less than 5%, what we saw are the margins are going to be close. >> 5% matters. >> last time around, in 2008, it mattered. this time around, i think it's still going to matter. the lesson here is actually one of a senate republican and linds lindsey graham.

who said, you know, i can defend supporting immigration reform. there's a lesson for all senators. >> they'll have to demonstrate that in a big way. i think there's room for skepticism. we have no choice but to continue to press the president to do again what he said he would do. and to move our community forward. >> nice seeing you, thank you for being here. next, some key senate races underscoring the challenges that faces democrats. also, a major presidential collaboration is launching today. former president bush and bill clinton will be live later this hour, speaking about their new leadership program. first, a look ahead at today's

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you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. republicans have opened up leads in key senate races in arkansas and kentucky, putting them in a strong position to win back control of the u.s. senate. in arkansas, republican congressman tom cotton leads democratic senator mark pryor by five points now among likely voters. pryor's edge we told you about has evaporated, now leaving them tied. in kentucky, mcconnell is up by 8 among likely voters.

he's ahead of democrat allison lund er lunder began grimes. the president is extremely unpopular in both of those states. job approval sits at 31% in both arkansas and kentucky. in colorado, not a lot better. just 39% of voters approve of the president's performance. for a republican wave in november, the party needs to win the red and purple states like colorado, iowa, michigan. and in colorado so far, democrats are at least holding on. senator mark udall is up by six points over republican congressman cory gardner. this is the director of the poll. he's joining us now. lee, nice to visit with you.

>> good morning, peter, how are you? >> i'm fine, thanks. so the state where we're seeing a shift, you're saying they prefer divided government. i want to put up information from your latest polls. this gives you a better understanding of where things stand in terms of who should control the house and senate. 44% saying republicans to check the president's power. 33% saying democrats to send a message to the gop. what's the message that you took away from this? >> well, it's not original with me, but clearly what voters are saying is keep the bums in as long as they're our bums. so partisan is trumping right now the notion that throw them all out, let's get some new folks in there. as you mentioned, with udall in colorado. but republicans doing very well in these red states. and the democrats are defending seven red states now. midromney carried it by 24

points last time. anything that resembled two years ago, you can understand why mark pryor's having big trouble with cotton. >> another issue is the gender gap here. especially in those red states. we're not seeing that. we'll put those numbers up. here's where things stand in arkansas among likely voters. among women, mark pryor. among men, tom cotton is slaughtering him, 52 to 39. and kentucky, the one most striking for hay lot of people, give be the fact it is a female candidate there in allison grimes. among women, her lead, just one percentage point over mitch mcconnell. she's down by 18 percentage points when it companies to men. this is going to be a critical element. we should also put up colorado.

that's one place. that really demonstrates. the numbers, women versus men there, you can see, among women, udall, perhaps the reason he leads so big, perhaps because he leads so strongly a. how important will this impact be? >> absolutely. you know, chuck todd has said it before. democrats have to carry women by double digits in order to offset their losses among men. there's a difference when we drill down the numbers. single women doing, you know, lining up for the democrats but not enough in a place like kentucky, a place like arkansas. just an advantage among men. in colorado, there is some support there. for udall, he's doing well with latino voters. he's doing well with the young. so we're seeing, you know, a tail of three different things going on right now in arkansas,

the republicans doing very well in the red states. democrats hopes in kentucky of offsetting republican wins elsewhere not materializing. as far as the republicans expanding the playing field by doing well in colorado, right now, udall's holding his own. so good news for both. but there's a lot of red states the democrats have to defend. right now, they're not doing very well in those red states. so that's the critical takeaway from this. >> we'll watch those latino voters as well. 60% to 27% among latino voters in colorado. thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> pleasure. see you soon. >> for more, we want to bring in msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt and mark murray. give me the sense, the thing that struck you most was what? >> the tail of red states versus

blue states. as lee outsigned, republicans are doing well in the red states of arkansas and kentucky. you see that there is the gender gap in the blue states. president obama isn't as big as a drag in blue states as he is in red. again, republicans, if they end up winning the red states in november, it's a very good night for them. it's a great night if they go into the blue and purple states. that really would tell you something about 2016. >> casey, it doesn't look like republicans at least at this moment will get a wave in november. >> at this point there are these three seats we know are probably already gone red states. at this point, they're just looking at three more. while there are some races that will probably only be in major play in the event of a republican wave, a place like organize oshg the reality is the map has expanded to the point where they're even looking at individual races the same way democrats have been trying to make this whole sort of midterm season about one race at a time. if you look at a state like

iowa, for example, that's a place where democrats went in thinking it was probably going to be a pretty easy road. then republicans got the candidate they wanted. bruce braillely has turned out to be a little weaker in some ways. and suddenly it's viewed at the edge of a battleground. republicans could win the senate regardless. >> will candidates have a hard time getting voters out? especially washington will look pretty similar whether we end up with a one or two seat republican majority or one or two seat majority by democrats? i guess this is where the enthusiasm gap exists now. for republicans, this may be a bigger deal. >> most polls show they have an enthusiasm advantage. we you're looking at midterm elections, that obama coalition, minority voters, doesn't seem to come out as much in midterms. this also looks like a base election as well. we've seen really low turnout in the primaries. that's often an indicator that

turnout is also going to be low come november day, election day. if the independents aren't showing up, and it becomes a republican versus "d" situation, you might see how they are able to hold on, at least in some blue and purple states you and i were talking about. >> one place where voters were engaged over this weekend was in kansas. senator pat roberts there battled his independent opponent greg orman. what was really a feisty debate. i think it was held at the state fair there. roberts has to prove he still has the juice to get something done in washington. how did he perform? >> ill thing what you saw in this pretty intense debate was a good illustration of just what pat roberts problem is here and the reality is now he's facing, again, what he thought he had gotten over in getting through his primary, which is that in kansas, there seems to be a very intense anti-incumbent sentiment. that's affecting governor brownback as well as senator

roberts and there was cheering at a number of points for his independent opponent when he went after him on those issues. whether or not roberts is going to be able to prove that he still is somebody who is of the state, his independent opponent made a reference to the fact he'd been to dodge city more frequently in recent time than pat roberts has, even though pat roberts says dodge city, kansas, is his hometown. so roberts has a difficult row to hoe. >> we'll keep watching. thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thanks, peter. it is official. you likely heard it by now. another royal baby on the way. we will have more of those details coming u next from london. first, though, today's trivia question. which member of the british royal family had a u.s. president as a godfather. the first person to tweet the correct answer @dailyrundown or @peteralexander.

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we're back right now on "the daily rundown." another live look inside the museum in washington, d.c. where bush and clinton should be speaking live within 15 members. they are launching the presidential leadership scholars program. a joint cooperation between these two men and others. clinton, george h.w. bush and

the lyndon johnson libraries are going to create a problem for scholars to study presidential decisions and strength be leadership in america. when they begin speaking, we'll hear them side by side. developing news from across the pond. you likely heard this morning. prince william and the duchess are expecting their second child. buckingham palace says the queen and both families are delighted by the news. the couple's first child, prince george, was born last july, amid major international frenzy. the new royal baby will become the fourth in line to the throne. there's no word of a due date just yet. we do know the duchess is again suffering from a rough bout of morning sickness, which is why we're learning about it. nbc's kelly kobiya from london. >> the princess was supposed to

be an event. she was a no show. it has to be explained. the palace released the statement saying kate is pregnant with her second child. little prince george is going to be a big brother. but she was home at kenzing on it palace with a severe case of morning sickness. she's being treated by doctors there. this is the same illness she had with baby number one, with prince george. in fact, at that type, she actually had to be hospitalized because she was suffering so severely. this time around, so far, just being treated at kensington palace. again, it's baby number two for kate and william. no surprise that they wanted to have another child. a sibling for george. it comes just a year and two months after george was born. this new member of the royal family will replace prince harry as fourth in line to the throne. it does create some scheduling issues for the royals. kate was scheduled to travel to malta on a solo trip later this year. and also an unannounced visit to

china next year. they'll have to reassess all of that. but of course it's a problem the royals are happy to have. peter. >> kelly thank you so much. we turn now to the new cease-fire agreement between the ukrainian government and pro-russian separatists that could already be falling apart. this past weekend there were reports of shelling around li luhansk. all three are strategic strong holds for ukraine. the ukrainian president pourchenko is visiting mariupol this morning as a show of strength. neither side is saying that the truce is at least officially over. there has been some peaceful progress. the prisoner swaps have begun. those prisoner exchanges are a key part of friday's cease-fire deal designed to end five months of fighting that has killeded more than 2,600 people. the eu is still planning to

announce a new package of sanctions against russia that's likely to happen tomorrow. nina krusheva is a professor of international affairs at the new school in new york city, also the great daughter of the great soviet leader nikita krusheva. what is the likely impact of the continuing of tightening of screws against russia? >> i think sanctions are very, very useful to keep putin on his toes. they're not exactly hundred percent reason as to why vladimir putin finally agreed to somehow participate in the deescalation of the conflict. i think his own insight, interests, are very important. that is, the russian public really doesn't want the war invasion, the whole invasion,

but they really are more interested in sort of keeping the brotherhood in ukraine alive but on the other hand really have russia very, very mildly involved, rather than full way. so the sarnnctions are very useful. it's useful to adopt them but really give putin a way out in saying the cease-fire holds. i believe it might hold despite the reports it's already in jeopardy. because that's what the sides are saying. the sides are saying they're just flaring out. but they're still not in jeopar jeopar jeopardy, at least not yet. therefore, if the sanctions -- not the sanctions, if the cease-fire maintains, then of course sanctions could be walked back. >> you have tweeted recently that the ukraine conflict, you say, isn't a hollywood movie here. among other things right now, you say russia gets a bad rap,

often cast as the villain. >> russia does get a bad rap because russianings are white, russians are cold war enemy, they're very easy to categorize. it's not that vladimir putin is a really good guy. what i was arguing, that russia never has a chance even when it has a chance. i mean, now, in fact, i probably will never go to the movies for the rest of my life, because all this russian characterings are just going to be as horrible as they come. but as for hollywood movies, those very quick news reports is that, well, this is a horrible cease-fire and what ukraine is doing accepting it. it doesn't always end up with a victory for the the good guy as it is in hollywood. but there are still some -- the cease-fire still holds. i think for russia and ukraine, it's a way to start political relationship. i think the really wild card in

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as we have been teaming you all hour we're expecting to hear any minute now from two former presidents george w. bush and bill clinton announcing a combined effort to create a program for scholars to study presidential decisions and strengthen leadership across every sector of our society. bringing in now nbc news

presidential historian. as we anticipate the two men. you can see them sitting by by side. they'll be speaking shortly. partnerships like this, are they unprecedented. have presidential libraries teamed up? >> sometimes they do. partnerships between expresidents go through the whole history. usually they hate each other or jealous. you don't have too many friendships among former presidents. the amazing thing in recent years, miracle and miracles. you have seen the relationship develop between the bush and clinton families. >> that's, i think, most striking to a lot of americans right now. especially as we anticipate the potential for another bush clinton matchup. they were together in the final four basketball game in texas in april. only a couple of weeks ago george w. bush challenged bill clinton to do the ice bucket challenge. >> if that happens this morning, we have a headline today. but in history, is this how it

normally has been in past presence often a fraternity of sorts? in recent years they have. people live longer. you've had in the last 40 years a lot more past presidents than you usually did before. it's almost an icelandic saga. the first time clinton and george h.w. bush. it's a long running story. >> what is the intention to create this sort of program to help scholars going forward to study their terms of office. what do you think of the lessons that both of them as presidents would provide they share? what are the things that the two of them share in particular when they're often viewed for different governing styles >>well, i think you're getting to the heart of it. one reason why george w. bush and bill clinton have a good relationship. they share a lot. one of the amazing thing they were born the same year. 1946.

you think of them as different times because they were president at different times. in terms of age they have it in common. they are huge ly old pros in politics. >> i was struck by one of the answers that the president had for chuck todd about the topic of golf. only a matter of hours after announcing he had spoken to the family of james foley, he got two big prominent golfers. they have different views of golf, though. at different times of their term. >> they did. even those two men are very practiced in politics, both of them ran into problems themselves of playing golf at the time when people thought they should have been seen at something more serious. >> not the first president to have the problems. >> nor my guess the last. >> nice to see you. that's going to do it for

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good morning. i'm jose diaz balart. the first focus pragmatic politics or promises broken? it's a real monday this morning in washington as congress heads back to work after the summer recess. immigration will not be on the agenda, it is driving the conversation with the president deciding he'll not abide by the end of the summer time table to issue an executive orders. speaker boehner said -- take a look at the map only one key senate race this year has the hispanic electric trait that breaks 5%. politics aside, the president had to face hispanic critics over the human aspect of this undocumented immigrants facing deportations without any immediate action. something chuck todd asked the president about point-blank on sunday. >> what do