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>> i replay over and over. >> rice was arrested in february after assaults his thousand wife. >> her pain is my pain. >> rice received only a two game suspension which led commissioner goodell to say he didn't get it right. >> this happened with me and i my wife. everybody questioned what happened. >> video showing domestic violence incident. >> ravens have terminated ray rice's contract this afternoon. >> suspended indefinitely by the nfl. >> something i have to live with the rest of my life. good to have you with us. thanks for watching. we start with breaking news. the baltimore ravens and nfl have cut ray rice. this morning new shocking video, are on you at least video that
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had not been revealed, of ray rice knocking on his then fiance surfaced. the video is brutal and disturbing and it is the story and forcing a man out of the nfl. but it's important to show this to keep it all in perspective. as you just saw, ray rice knocked out his fiance. you also see her dragging her unconscious body out of the elevator doors as bystanders and hotel officials come to the scene. now, with the servicing of this videotape, baltimore ravens have cut ray rice from the ball club. a short time ago, a tweet says roger goodell has announced based on new video evidence that became available today, he has indefinitely suspended ray rice. in response to calls for stronger punishment, the nfl said the video was not made available to us.
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and no one in our office has seen it until today. okay. what kind of investigation was this? someone should speak up and tell us exactly how thorough it was. this could be a game changer when it comes on gles tedomesti violence. a team has taken a stand without league interference. or this coordination with the league. speer speculation here. it would seem that the baltimore ravens said we will handle this because we live in baltimore. and we have our fans and we have our image and we all know that the national football league is big on image. and then the league to make sure that nobody else will pick up this all-pro running back makes sure he will be suspended indefinitely. i'm sure ravens are saying if we let this great run back go, how do we know he won't be competing
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against us later. so i believe there was a real league effort to take care of will as quickly as possible when this videotape surfaced. now, roger goodell said he blew it. he blew it again. because now we find out that the thorough investigation is not there. this videotape should have been rendered in judgment and we shouldn't be at this juncture today. joining me tonight, political analyst and a political stranlgest. great to have both of yyou with us. what kifrnd of investigation wa this? the league shouldn't be at this juncture right now. >> one thing we know for sure, we can count on tmz for elevator footage. we first saw related to jay-z and solange. folks were quick to talk about
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that. i have no idea why the nfl could not get access to these tapes when they say they asked for them and everyone's in shock and dismay. and what i don't understand is why in july when ray rice apologized, he's been punished elsewhere. i have no idea why the nfl think they got it right there. he should have looked to the actions of the nba commissioner. when donald sterling took actions that were harmful and would have caused the clippers a great deal of pain, why didn't they look at those actions and apply those best practices into this investigation and take prompt and clear action. as it related to michael vick, for example, they were quick to punish michael vick for dogfighting. but not for a woman getting beat up in an elevator? >> i think what bothered me the
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most is everybody was retending as if this was new information. when two people get on an elevator and one person gets off unconscious, there are only a couple different ways that can happen. he admitted that he hit her and she was unconscious. >> so why wasn't the league more curious? >> exactly. they took an active role in blaming her for being unconscious and blaming her for her role in this incident. and victim blaming worked where the public were like we didn't know what happened. you can conclude logically that two people get on, one gets off, somebody was knocked unconscious. >> so the league says they didn't see this until it was put out by tmz. >> i don't buy it. even if that's true, they had
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enough facts previous to this to suspend him indefinitely. >> so are we curious as to who does these investigations for the nfl? or is the nfl a joke? they put a guy on suspension for two games and now new videotape. >> yet a far longer suspension for someone smoking marijuana. and i'm not saying whether one is it right and one is not. but if you can now the execute an investigation properly for whatever reason, hire folks from the outside. they know how on do that. they now how to move forward with an external investigation. and i think a lot of people have
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alleged that it was a coverup and we know it may be true. but you really have to acknowledge that you're not allowed to tackle people -- >> you you bring up a very interesting point. credit and of the nfl is on the lining here. she's lucky to be alive. if he had been maybe an inch higher, who knows what the outcome would have been. >> how do we know he thought she was alive? >> he drags her like she's not even a humming. and obviously we all projected assumptions on to what we thought could have transpired because we saw the aftermath, but it's not a big leap to conclude that two people get in, would be leaves unconscious, that the other person knocked them out. and he admitted it. they used victim blame to go at
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that time spoptake the responsibility off of him and put it on her about that. >> so since this took place, there was yet another player with the 49ers. where is the game changer? >> if somebody takes a really serious look at the nfl's domestic violence policy, but also the training programs and workshops that they have. because domestic violence among families is not something unique to the mfnfl. but they have a unique opportunity to take the lead. >> all right. thanks for your time tonight. domestic violence is a growing rob in america. one in four women will experience it if their life tile. 1.3 million are victims of physical assault by their partner each year. almost one third of female homicide victims are killed by
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their partner. with those newspapers, no wonder that the national football league and ravens had to take action. but it's slow. is it enough? and will it wake up athletes around the world in other sports? to reevaluate the actions and how devastating they are to themselves and the victiming i think you could make the argument that it could be over completely for ray rice. terry, how troubling is this investigation? >> it is completely outrageous. it's really beyond troubling. the nfl thinks it has an image problem. the nfl doesn't. it has a woman problem. what the organization needs to do is two things. in the short run, it needs s s immediately begin providing serious services for victim its of domestic violence committed
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by those within the nfl. clearly those services are not available.domestic violence com those within the nfl. clearly those services are not available. you have a football industry in which men, young men, are trained to be tough it, trained to be very physical. and you can not have that kind of environment and not have services for women who experience domestic violence. longer term, the nfl needs to look at how they treat women. look at the sexualization of the women cheerleaders. and you begin to understand that the nfl has not an image problem, but a woman problem. >> what do you suggest the league's next move would somebody. >> they can't rest on firing ray
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rice. they must institute services. and it's not about trainings men. it's about providing real wrap around services for women. you know, i took a look at their new policy and the policy is certainly a step in the right direction. but one of the aspects of it really troubled me. and that was when they talk in there about if a woman begins to rekapts cant recant, that there willp punishments for the woman. that is the wrong thing to do so clear the nfl doesn't get it. >> the nfl does expensive background checks and character checks on players before they're brought into camp. it they go to this combine, they know everything and they try to feepd out everything they possibly can about these players. i don't know if they ask about domestic violence or any kind of police record.i don't know if t
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domestic violence or any kind of police record.players. i don't know if they ask about domestic violence or any kind of police record. i would imagine they did. but there has been another incident since this ordeal. was this the proper thing to do to make sure that he's suspended indefinitely or should he have been kick out of the league? >> i think he should be kicked out of the league and not be allowed to play baseball -- football in the league at all. and anymore. but it's not enough to do the background checks. you have to create an environment in which women are not likely to be assaulted. >> so you're saying the thfl has to get message to the players. and they're millions. they think they can do whatever he the heck they want to do. and a lot of good citizens in the nfl. but it seems that the message is that it's okay. we have an attorney. and the league has to do
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something much greater. and who knows what other leagues mitt do. >> and the teams and league, what they need to do is stop circling the wagons to protect a perpetrator. we need to ask whether parts of the video were suppressed. >> i find it hard to bloef that the believe that they would cut a player like this and the league office not know it b. it. they said you have to live in baltimore, this is your image, you have to make a statement and we'll make sure that guy wopts be competing against you. it wou look back if the nfl had to manage their team. so there had to be some coordination there. there had to be.
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the question is what come they do next time. thanks. i appreciate your time. coming up, president obama making a big speech this week on the threat of isis. former senator conrad will tell us why the president can't act alone. but first, a rare respiratory disease spreads like wildfire across the midwest. dr. woodfield will join us to tell us what you have to do with your kids. their biggest customer is demanding refunds for defects. so i offered to help. at ge capital, we bring expertise from across ge. so i call in our access ge engineers, and together with columbia, we work backwards. from the cabinet factory, to the place they peel the logs. we find the source and help replace the machine. problem solved. if you just need a loan, just call a bank. but at ge capital, we're builders. what we know, can help you grow.
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>> in colorado, more than 900 cases. >> cdc looking into whether there may be a regional outbreak. >> we think it will be a busy winter. >> joining me tonight is the hip hop doc, ronnie whitfield. always good to have you with us. i'm sure there are a lot of parents right now thinking, okay, where is this going. how serious is it. >> first ebola, and now this. but we have to calm down first and take control. enterovirus is quite common. 10 million to 15 million infected each year. what we're seeing is very atypical. again, you can have very mild symptoms, sneeze, runny nose, cough. but those that develop the rash,
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fevers and difficulty breathes are the ones with the concern. but again, these viruses are quite common. just unusual how this epidemic is spreading. >> this has moved pretty quickly, hasn't it? >> right. yeah, it's moved quicker than normal. enterovirus is very common. all of us have had the intense summer cold. this is the second most common virus to inspect humans. because so many kids are being infected and many have gone to the hospital, it's been quite alarming. but there is no treatment, and we do need to be aware of the sign, what is not cool is that this presents in many cases like the simple common cold so most parts will ignore it, kids will go to school. so we have to teach proper things to protect themselves and protect others around them. but again, this is a virus that does not respond to antibiotics.
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>> and why young people? >> infants, adolescents and teens immune systems have not been exposed to many viruses. so they haven't built up an immune system response. can happen in adults, but it tends to target teens and the young, but it can happen in adults. and particularly those that have respiratory products. if they have the fever, rash, call the doctor. get them to the hospital right away. >> are we talking about a real spiked fever and how do parents protect their kids? >> way to protect their kids is by common sense things. wash your hands. disinfect areas. if you are feeling unwell, obviously avoid people, but
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don't drink after people, don't kiss, don't hug. avoid the close contact. just common sense things. but the way that it's spreading has alarmed everyone. i've read some articles saying there is the tip of the iceberg, but i don't want it people to get scared. just raise awareness and pay attention. this is a busy time of year. we're going back to school. i think all of our immune sooms can be suppressed by not getting the proper amount of rest. stay hydrated and rest well. wash hand, disinfect areas. >> what would note straight someone to say it's the tip of the iceberg? 12 states have --straight someone to say it's the tip of the iceberg? 12 states have -- cdc is looking into the cases of the illness. do you think we'll see the spread beyond the areas that it's in right how?
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>> it could be in other areas now, but in most cases, it presents like the common cold. so we're not sure. enterovirus just means the stomach. but many kids don't have diarrhea. this can progress to inflammation of the heart, in-severin in-severin in-several light tis. but the severity has not been this way and that's why people are concerned. so it's too early to make pre-decisipre predictio predictions. >> and finally, parents are probably wondering do i send my child to school. you say don't overreact.
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be vigilant, but do you send your kids to school is this. >> you you send your children to school. we have to use the universe al precautions. >> dr. whitfield, thanks so much. coming up, congress is back from vacation. they have some stuff decisions to make on fighting isis. former senator kent conrad is here with reaction. we'll draw on his experience. plus americans got it right in 2012 but mitt romney sdchdoesn' think so. and your questions next.
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thanks for wooching tonight. congress is back from vacation and war talk is on the schedule.
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since august, there is been over 100 air strikes on isis targets in iraq. they're having an impact, but isis tistill controls large amounts of syria. president obama says he's working on his plan of action. >> we have to get an iraqi government in place and i'm optimistic that next week we should be able to get that done. and i will then meet with congressional leaders on tuesday, on wednesday, i'll make a speech. and describe what our game plan will be going forward. but this is not going to be an announcement about u.s. ground troops, this is not the equivalent of the iraq war. what this is similar to the kinds of kucounterterrorism campaigns that we have been
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engaging in consistently. >> president obama will give a speech the day before the 13th anniversary of 9/11. republicans have tried to nail this president on every issue. and they're against it. they're against the president. so all these republicans who have been critical of the president and his strategy in dealing with terrorism, well, now you have the chance to support the president of the united states. >> i'm going to be asking congress to make sure that they understand and support what our plan is. and it will require some resources i suspect above what we are currently doing. >> this is asking congress for a vote. an authorization of your strategy. >> i'm confident that i have the authorization that i need to protect the american people. and i'm always going to do what is necessary to protect the american people. but i do think it's important for congress to understand what the plan is, to have buy-in, to debate it. >> throughout the entire iraq
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war, republicans makings case president bush had plenty of authority. they should have no authority standing with president obama on handling isis. the president stopped short of asking congress for a vote. president obama has the authority to act without congress. but i think it's important to have members of congress on record. we have a midterm election coming up this 56 days. every american heading to thes stand on military action. this country made the critical mistake of not debating military action in the past. >> this chamber is for the most part ominously, ominously dreadfully silent. you can hear a pin drop. liste listen. you can hear a pin drop. there is no debate.
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there is no discussion. >> only 23 senators voted against the iraq war. of those 23 senator respes, onl are still serving. halls of congress have been silent on war in the past and it would be a huge mistake to do it again. both democrats and republicans are calling if a votes. senator tim kaine is leading the democratic effort in the senate for a vote. >> what i have strongly promoted is the notion that the president should not engage in military action against isil without congress. framers of the constitution clearly intended congress should have to give approval. >> he's right. it's the job of congress to make tough decisions like authorizing the use of force. the president will lay out his plan and it should be put to the vote. troops should know their leaders are supporting their fight.
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for more, let me bring in kent conrad and also a columnist for the "washington post". senator conrad, you were one of 23 who voted against the war. are the circumstances that much different this time around? >> yes, i think they're very different. in the case of iraq, we were told that we were going after them because of 9/11 and of course iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. we were attacked by al qaeda led by osama bin laden, not iraq led by saddam hussein. so we were really sold that conflict in a totally incorrect way. in this circumstance, i think isis does represent a threat. really to the whole civilized world. because they're extreme, they're totalitarian. we've seen this movie before. these people have to be stopped. the question is how do you do that in a smart way. and i think what they're trying to set up is a conflict that is
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between islam and the west. between islam and america. that is not in our interests to have this conflict seen in this way. this is a conflict between extreme islam and the rest of islam and rest of the civilized world. so they should be iraqi boots and occkurdish boots on the gro. we have the air power and intelligence to help roll back and defeat and destroy isis. which i think is in the interests of the whole civilized world. we should not let this become a conflict where we are the face of the opposition to islam. that would be a big mistake. >> that's what nato's meeting was all about last week. and it was certainly very important moment for the president. but senator, do you think there should be a vote in congress on extended action and the president saying it may take
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more resources? >> i've always believed congress should be on record when america goes into conflict. and this is no different. congress of the united states should stand up and support this president and the actions taken to protect this country. >> e.j., what are you expecting from the president's speech? he's been criticized for not having a plan. this is it, isn't it? >> i think he laid out a lot of the plan both at the nato meeting and then when he talked to chuck todd on sunday, i think that there is a core argument here which is you you can use american you power against the dangers we face without committing tens of thousands of american troops. "new york times" had a very good piece that said, look, this is going to be a long effort, john kennedy famously talked about a long twilight struggle. they argued that it will come in three phases. we've already started the bombing campaign against isis.
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the next phase would be to arm an iraqi army presuming they can put together unity government, perhaps help sun in you forni f. and then the third phase would be do we want to take them on in syria. but i think there is a lot of real civil heism here. no one is talking about an inconstant victory. no one is saying this will be easy. and no one is saying that america can do it alone. i think the president wants to use american power where it can best be used. that's a strategy. >> senator, you warned the country what it would cost. and we're a war weary country because of iraq and afghanistan. how do we know we're not walking in to another financial quagmire that would cause even more strive here at home?
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>> because this really is fundamentally different than the kind of massive invasion we had of iraq. at least at this point, that is not what is contemplated and not what is needed. what is needed is targeted intelligence, u.s. air power and absolutely boots on the ground. the question is whose boots. and i think it's absolutely this our interests that those be ragrag iraqi and kurdish boots and we don't fall into the trap of making this a conflict between the west and all of islam. that's exactly what thes ge guy are trying to do. that's not in our interests. >> is the president handling it correctly in your opinion? >> i think the president has been very smart and very careful and successful at rolling back isis in rairaq.
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this is not something that you can do overnight. you have to put together the coalition that involves other parts of the islamic world repelled by these people. these are outrageous what these people have done. they have to be stopped. but to do it, we have to be smart. >> and the president has said no boots on the ground. whether he have to walk back from that at some point if this spirals out of control? you you look at what they control in syria. we'll have to answer syria question pretty soon. >> in terms of boots on the ground, we have a small number on the ground. if need be, he may send in more advisers for the iraqi army. but i think he is very committed for a lot of different reasons against sending large numbers of americans -- any american ground troops to fight this war. and in terms of syria, it is complicated. and i think you need a stronger
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in her new memoir, forgetting to be afraid, davis describes terminating a 1994 ectopic
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pregnancy, which was considered medically necessary. in 1997, doctors told davis her unborn daughter had a severe brain abnormality and would be unlikely to survive. in an exclusive interview with abc's "good morning america," davis described how difficult her decision was. >> like so many other families across this country, we made that difficult decision with as much love for our daughter as can be imagined. her name was tate elease davis. and we loved her as we love our living daughters, drew and amber, and she forms, of course, a very important part of my life. >> republican attorney general in texas, davis's opponent in the governor's race was sure to tread lightly in his response, despite his anti-choice stance. abbott issued a statement, the unspeakable pain of losing a child is beyond tragic for any parent. as a father, i grieve for the
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davis family and for the loss of life. joining me tonight is sara slayman, field director for the texas ft. bend democratic party and terry o'neil, president of the national organization for women. terry, you first. this is a very bold move that wendy davis is making. not many people publicly talk about this. not many people talk about this traumatic experience and this very tough decision. why do you think she did it? >> you know, ed, i can't say why wendy davis did this, but i will tell you, women from texas that i have talked to have said how grateful they are to her. that they -- that her speaking out has actually made them feel less alone. when i first read that she put this in her memoir and was talking about it, i thought, she is one of the most courageous politicians in the country. but then talking to the people that i know down in texas, it
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was really striking to me, that one woman said -- she's had an abortion and she said, i just don't feel so alone now. >> sara, do you think it will impact the election? >> i don't know if it will have an impact. he doesn't it will the story for political reasons. he told the story to help the rest of texas get to know her. it's another chapter in her story of strength. i'm just proud of her for telling it. >> no political motivation here at all? >> i don't see any political motivation. she withheld telling this story when she stood up for 13 hours. she came across a story that was nearly identical and proceeded. that was a moment where she could have put the spotlight on herself. instead, she continued to tell our stories, that the house committee would not allow us to keep speaking about at the hearing. >> so what has the response to this in texas, among democrats? is this going to motivate people
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to vote? she's behind in the polls right now by eight points. >> absolutely. when you look at the left, no one can accuse her of running away from abortion. on the right side, it's clearing up the issue once and for all. she has the authority to speak about this issue, no one can question her about it from this point. >> how do you view this? was this a political move by wendy davis? she's behind in the polls. and would a story like this, generate sympathy among women voters? >> i don't think it was political at all. i agree with sara. this has always been very much an uphill battle for her to win the governor's mansion. i think, however, that politically, it's a good thing for this to be out there. i think women voters need to understand that if greg abbott had his way, and he may be a very nice man, but if he had his way, victims of rape would not be able to terminate their
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pregnancies, victims of incest would not be able to terminate their pregnancies. mr. abbott has said he considers rape and incest to be just another means of beginning a life. and for him, no matter how the beginning happens, that abortion must be criminalized. he's personally participated in shaming women around abortion and in stigmatizing women around abortion. i think it's very good politically for wendy if women in texas start having a conversation about that. >> how do you think abbott handled it? >> i think he's handling it in typical style. the first thing his campaign did was attack her and report her campaign to the texas ethics commission about her book tour. i think it's another example of them trying to keep wendy davis quiet. during the filibuster that we all watched, they pulled up three procedural violations to try to shut down that filibuster, they were all completely made up. they understand now they can't control this.
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they can control the floor of the senate, but not the public marketplace of ideas. >> i keep hearing texas is going to turn blue, but if she's down by 8 points, how is that going to happen less than 60 days out. >>as a wonk, i can respect the polls, but nate silver had an article about how are the polls conducted. who are they talking to? it's a different state. we've had a lot of people move in. we've had incredible registration efforts. i think she can definitely close this gap, especially when you look at the landfall of scandals that have happened to governor per kpe greg abbott who's been on the losing end of two court cases in the past few weeks. >> terry o'neil, there have been a lot of big news stories over the last 90 days. before that, there was a tremendous amount of focus on women's rights in this country. quickly, the pulse of women in this country about turn-out for this november. >> well, i'm hoping that turn-out for women will be much higher this year than it will be
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in 2010, and i think women are paying attention. as you said, a lot of this election is going to be about women. >> sara slayman, terry o'neil, good to have you with us on the "the ed show." thanks so much. good evening, rev. >> good evening, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, a disturbing and violent video emerges of an nfl player punching his then fiance. and is racing new questions on domestic violence and what the nfl knew. tmz sports released the video this morning. you can see baltimore ravens running back ray rice and his then fiance janay palmer, go into an elevator in an atlantic city casino. you can clearly see they have an altercation and he then punches her in the face. he knocks her out. she