about does wrong, you know, and is faced with the consequences of doing wrong and rightfully so, it is tough. it is hurtful. and and my pain is for both of them as a couple, you know, in going forward. my hope is they can make it work. and from everything that i understand and talking, you know, to ray up until his suspension, talking to him a lot, you know, it seemed like they were really working hard and doing well in that direction and i hope they can weather this part of it too. i'll be praying for that. >> early yesterday afternoon the news came out, i guess not much of a shock after tmz video was leaked. sacked. unbelievable story coming out of baltimore with ray rice, something that obviously upset a lot of us yesterday morning when we first saw this video, and mika we got bill rodden with the

"new york times" saying what a lot of people are saying. somebody tweeted oh, boy the ravens did the nfl a big favor. no they didn't. nfl is in more hot water than they have ever been before. we know the commissioner. we like the commissioner. obviously a fan of the nfl for a very long time. but this is a big problem for the nfl. i don't think there's anybody in america that believes they didn't see what happened inside that elevator before tmz released it. >> you know, the security footage that tmz put out you wonder did they not see it? did they not ask for it? which is worse at this point? i don't think it matters. after you see the entire video of ray rice powerfully hitting his fiancee, knocking her off her feet and then dragging her out of the elevator and this is them walking in. and then this is what happens inside the elevator.

and i remember when we saw this yesterday, our reaction, your reaction, joe was instantaneous. get him off the team. no place for someone like that. >> you know, get him off the team immediately. get him out of the nfl. now, look at this. it just keeps getting worse. and what is really the most offensive to women is the fact that a guy that does that is kicked off the football field for two games. a guy -- >> there was a lot of pressure. >> a guy that smokes a little weed on his own, a victimless crime or another guy that takes a recreational drug on vacation is treated more harshly than

that. the nfl has a lot of explaining to do. >> they do. all around. this will cause problems all the way down to the other players, but certainly for the coaches and managers and the entire nfl. here's coach john harbaugh, how he reacted when rice was initially suspended and, again, then we'll show you right after that last night after the new footage surfaced like we needed it, leading to ravens to cut rice from the team. take a look. >> it's not, it's not a big deal. just part of the process. we always said from the beginning that the circumstances would determine the consequences. there are consequences when you make a mistake like that. i stand behind ray. he's a heck of a guy. he made a mistake. he has to pay a consequence. good for kids to understand that's how it works. we'll move forward and next guy will have to step up and ray will be back when the time comes. so it's not something that we're

dwelling on. we're not worried about it. we're moving forward. i have nothing but hope and goodwill for ray and his wife. we'll do everything we can to help them going forward. it's something we saw for the first time today all of us and it changed thing, of course. it made things a little bit different. >> why did they only see that for the first time today? >> i don't get it. really, mike barnacle was talking about before the show how many secret service people, how many security people are in the nfl. there's no way that they didn't see this or worse willful ignorance. this takes me back -- remember when espn did that series on the nfl, they talked about the under side of the nfl, how msygonistic

it was and the nfl said if you play any more of those series -- so they killed it. this is a cultural problem and i'll say too not to brag somebody else into it but coach harbaugh, hey he made a mistake. making a mistake is going on vacation and smoking pot in a way that violates the club's and league's drug policy. that's making a mistake. this is something far beyond that. this is not a big deal. this is a cultural problem. how could the nfl not have known what happened inside that elevator. >> this league knows what's in every player's bloodstream. they can find information when they want it. you talk about guys smoking weed. how about a guy who took a fertility drug because his wife could not get pregnant and was banned four games. then he tore his achilles and was out for the season.

it's hard to imagine a case where they didn't see it or you say willfully didn't see it. they didn't want to see it because it would make things more difficult. this has been a disaster from the beginning, from the initial sanction of two games. now saying we'll change our policy it's six games. now to see this -- i don't know why it's different now than it was. bill, if you see a woman in that initial video being dragged out of the elevator you know something terrible happened. the idea that the nfl didn't have access to a tape that the police had, that the casino had and tmz is reporting this morning tmz is happy to share with the league if they asked it's not believable. >> it's unbelievable, actually. the idea that -- i didn't have to see anything more than the first time. what do you have to see? what do you have to really see? the problem is this is all about protecting "the shield," this,

penn state, this is all protecting "the shield." we've seen it not just in the nfl. when "the shield" is more important than the victim. that's what happened from the very beginning. >> what does the do now? doesn't roger goodell have to come out and issue more than a statement? >> roger may have to go. if we find out, which i think we will, that they knew about this, which as you said, it strains credibility and belief that they did not know this. >> you think the commissioner may have to step down. >> if we find out that they knew about this, they saw this video, after that, after watching this video they gave him a two game suspension and then only after a public outcry -- they are not doing this stuff because of some moral indignation, they are doing this because they got caught. tell me the truth don't tell me

the truth because you get backed into a corner tell the truth on its own merit. this has nothing to do with morality it's about protecting "the shield." i think we will find this people know this, the face of the national football league may have to go. >> it may have to go. i don't disagree. i they were completely, complete pli unself aware what the ramifications of this would have been. you have a public outcry now which is very hard to stop. you're hearing from the president, you're hearing from the vice president. this isn't the music industry where people from different camps make different choices and you have these high-profile domestic violence cases. this is the nfl and an organization and think about all the female fans they have. who would go to watch those guys play. they would boycott it. i would. >> one more disgusting piece. yesterday the baltimore ravens

delete ad tweet at 4:30 in the afternoon from their twitter account that reads, janel deeply regrets the role that she played the night of the incident. they got her to say she was sorry. she apologized for taking a left cross. >> so they blamed his bad behavior on her and had her apologize. that's quite sick, actually. well, we got other news that involves the sports world as well. the ncaa is cutting short its own sanctions on penn state football program that came in the wake of the jerry sandusky child molestation scandal. the state will get back 85 scholarships next year. the ncaa and former senator george mitchell who has been overseeing penn state's progress determined the university has been meeting its obligations for

moving past the scandal. the decision isn't sitting well with everybody. some critics saying the punishment should have been completed. >> i don't understand. this is one of the worst scandals identify ever seen in any athletic endeavor and it went to the very top at least knowledge of that and keeping that creep on the sidelines molesting little boys -- you know, they should have gotten the death penalty first of all. >> absolutely. >> now what they are getting a slap on the wrist? i'm a huge -- identify always had a great admiration to penn state. >> see how this is linked. >> this is disgraceful. >> this is where this stuff starts at the college level. penn state was protecting the child. the kids were molested. didn't matter. and this stuff happens at the college, so don't be surprised by the time we get up to ray

rice level they have been doing this stuff for years. >> let me challenge you a little bit on that although it's tough but i know to some people that went to penn state, a friend of the show has written us a long letter about this. the players here and the other people involved are not people who get paid millions and millions of dollars, they are students getting an education. hold on. and while whoever was involved even remotely in the scandal should be routed out of that place and left to rot somewhere, why should the students of penn state who do a lot of good things -- i mean they have a massive fundraiser there every year, they raise millions of dollars for cancer research, they have incredible programs and they are trying to educate thousands and how to sathousandg people.

>> you have thousands of people coming to support. >> there are other programs at penn state that should be flouric but suffering because of evil done in the football league. maybe the football league ought to suffer. you know what happens when money comes in for scholarships they got players there that have nothing to do with it. >> they should have thought about that before they turned their eye. they should have thought about the consequences of not dealing with this because you're right. precisely because of everything you mentioned that's why they allow things to do. that's why they allow people to get abused. because -- >> it's all about money. >> it's all about the dollar. >> i know a lot of students who go to penn state that are suffering because of what jerry sandusky did and they have nothing to do with it. >> a lot of people went to penn state precisely so they could be there on saturday afternoon and cheer. >> while this was going down i

was surprised there was not more of an outcry at penn state. there were a lot of rallies for these people. and sometimes some people acted like why are you picking on us? the ncaa was supposedly picking on them because just horrible things done to little boys through the years. >> certainly not to everybody. >> in just a few hours president obama will meet with congressional leaders from both parties as he begins to lay out his plans to defeat islamic state militants in iraq and syria. plans may include expanded air strikes to reclaim territory that isis seized in iraq and president obama is expected to tell americans on wednesday that it will likely take years to destroy the group. administration officials are scheduled to give classified briefings to the entire house and senate wednesday and thursday about president obama's plans. the white house hopes the speech and briefings will make lawmakers buy into the president's strategy.

>> let's bring in "new york times" reporter jeremy peters. how exactly are things going to be going down between the two as they get together and talk about moving against isis? >> reporter: getting congressional approval, or as the president put it, buy in in this case has never really been this administration's strong suit, so i think just automatically going into this the president is going to face skepticism. >> you don't expect there's going to be much of a problem with congress wanting to support the president in a battle to destroy the islamic state, do you? >> reporter: i think generally there's support there but when you ask the question, do they want to vote on this themselves, the answer is pretty unanimously no. there are people -- >> why not? >> people want to vote on this, democrats especially because they want to vote against this. republicans fall into that category because they don't want to endorse anything that the

president is doing especially on a policy that they don't trust him to implement effectively. but i do think that there are a number of republicans who are going to see this as a thanks security issue and want to stand behind the military in this case, not necessarily the president but the troops. >> there's a "the washington post" poll out this morning 71% of americans support air strikes in iraq to go after isis. looks like the president has popular support. it's important to remember, jeremy, the last time we said we would destroy a group like this, al qaeda and taliban was 13 years ago. you have to be weary of a limited military campaign because sometimes they go on for decades. >> that's right. members of congress have memories of iraq still fresh in their minds and they don't want to own this. should there be a vote? should the president ask for

more authorization and they vote to approve this they have this on their hands and that's not what they want. democrats do not want to have a messy debate over a war authorization in the middle of a mid-term election. that's not good for them. i think what they hope to hear from the president on wednesday night the strong, bold and forceful and rallies the american people behind him so they are in a better situation come the mid-term elections. >> you talked about ray rice, penn seat, you want to talk about isis? >> war is not the answer. >> exactly. >> all right. still ahead on "morning joe" we'll hear from senator gillibrand. she will join us on set. then the politics of senator tim kaine will weigh.

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♪ you know you look at this poll that willie brought up in "the washington post." pretty stunning how many americans, i say stunning for a war weary nation, how many americans support expanding air strikes into syria. >> yeah. >> 74% republicans, 60% democrats, 64% independents, 71% of all parties, all americans want to go into iraq, they want to arm -- >> they are tuned in. >> i want to make sure i get

this right. very serious threat or serious threat, 90% say isis is a very serious or somewhat serious threat. >> the president trying to get congressional support that should be taken into consideration for sure. let's take a look at the morning papers from our parade of papers. the "los angeles times" a fire caused sections of the iconic roller coaster at six flags magic mountain to collapse yesterday in california. no one was injured but the flames significantly damaged the roaster. the ride closed two weeks ago to undergo construction. workers were working on the 36-year-old structure. >> do you like roller coast sners >> i like the old rickety kind. >> do the tea cup. you'll never do it again. they spin little children like that. their heads bobbing around.

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>> you don't like being called an isolationist, do you. >> you think people would get it. i've been trying to say that for the last four years in public life i'm not an isolationist or

an interventionist, i believe in the constitution and believes america should have a strong national defense and believes we should defend ourselves but when we do it we should do it the way the constitution intended and that's the president should come before congress and make the case for war. if i had been president i would have called a joint session of congress this august, brought everybody back from recess and said this is why isis is a threat to the country. >> welcome back to "morning joe." we have joy reed joining us on set and rick santorum standing by. he has a piece in politico magazine that we'll be talking about. first i'll read from "the washington post." what does domestic violence look like. they say this. domestic violence is a fact of life for too many people. there are lessons to be learned from what happened in that elevator and not just for the nfl. namely this is what domestic violence looks like and you shouldn't need a video to believe it. be disgusted by it and refuse to tolerate it.

it's the bottom line. i'm not sure why they needed the rest of the video but they got the rest of the video and they should be ashamed of themselves. here's the "wall street journal," islamic state getting stronger and targeting america. and this is by ryan crocker. there's no time left to argue, dither and wonder what should to be done about those who are butchering americans and anyone else they care to across a growing portion of the middle east. the enemy has no such doubts. they are not going away. they are getting stronger. so now -- >> on that point rick santorum and its op-ed. >> you have an interesting piece on rand paul and sort of his outlook, his world view, his policies and rick in part you write this. rand paul insists he's not an isolationist but in reality the kentucky senator as advanced a brand of neo-isolationism and appeasement that is as short

sited as it mistaken. despite his recent and fran ticks efforts to recast himself as not completely ridiculous on national security issues the truth is his record often puts him in league with barack obama or even to the president's left. anyone who truly cares about american liberty at home must not ignore real enemies and rising threats abroad. his neo-isolationism should be rejected. it is bad for the republican party, and it is bad for america. >> rick, appeasement obviously is a very strong word. give us a good example of how rand paul has appeased those in america. >> i look at the central issue. for a long time i've been trying to alert folks about the threat of iran and iron with a nuclear weapon. during the last campaign when he was campaigning with his father he said iran with a nuclear weapon is one nuclear weapon. not a problem for america. he talked about policies of containment.

on a sanctions vote in the united states senate he was is singular vote, one person voted against sanctions and that was rand paul. >> sanctions against iran? >> against iran. right. >> he recast himself. talk about that. >> he's running around and saying, for example, he was in iowa a few weeks ago saying he never opposed aid to israel. he voted for a budget that wiped out every dollar. he said it's good for israel that they become a well pair state by american support but then went to iowa when israel was under attack from hamas and said no, no i never did that. look i just think it's important. there's a battle going on not just among democrats and republicans but within the republican party about what kind of defense policy we should have, what kind of international policy we should have and i think it's a good debate. we need to lay out what the terms of that debate is.

>> joy would love to have rand pull on the show. we've invited him repeatedly. >> we should respond directly to this. >> if you get him i would love to hang out. i would love to ask senator santorum what's the opposite of being a neo-isolationist. you mentioned iran. are you talking about wanting to go to war with iran. is there any serious danger that we should engaging the kind of thing we did with iraq, iran a country four times the population and not many military experts would say that's a good idea. >> i don't think we go to the opposite extreme. obviously there's a lot of ground in between doing nothing or accepting the nuclear iran. >> what do you think should to be done? >> first off we shouldn't be negotiating with a group of folks who have no sincere desire to end their nuclear program. while we're negotiating they are continuing to develop a missile program. the only reason for this missile program is to deliver a nuclear

weapon. they are continuing to research how to weaponize a nuclear weapon and they already have been able to develop technologies that allows them to leap forward from very low enriched uranium to highly enriched uranium to be used for a nuclear weapon. they are continuing to do this as we're giving them time by negotiating. we need to be marshalling efforts to stop them from doing that and put a red line well before development to do that. >> going to the crux of this argument. bi bill krystol said the same thing yesterday. >> senator santorum gets into that point by point in this politico piece. senator, this is a very comprehensive piece. you've given a lot of time, thought and energy to rand paul. what is it about him that gets you so worked up?

do you think he could become a leading presidential candidate, a guy you don't want to see become the republican nominee? >> we all recognize this country is war weary and we haven't had very good leadership of laying out the reason why we need to be engaged in the international arena. we see the results of not being engaged, deferring to international bodies and walking away from problems. that is not a good course. we're seeing that. but still not an understanding among the american people even within the republican party of what engagement should look like. you mean we'll go to war with everybody? no that's not what we mean but there's a very constructive engagement policy that both parties have used in the past and explain to the american public what that means. >> all right thank you so much. gate to see you. let's talk again the bottom of the screen you see 76% of americans supporting air strikes

against isis. a large percentage -- actually a little ahead of where the president is right now supporting air strikes in syria. that's dramatic. >> it is. interesting to see the outcome. his working with congress today and his address to the nation. >> by the way, supported invading iraq in 2003. think about how it's feeling right now. of course we have to stop isis. >> we're not rushing in there. >> no we're not rushing in there. for people claiming that the president is too slow and he should have done this before and done that before -- >> he's doing it. >> the american people are catching up and it's, you know, build a big coalition. we can't go it alone. >> inside the u.s. and outside. joy can you stay with us. >> sure. >> later, senator gillibrand in her own words, the sexist attacks on capitol hill and what

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♪ presidential photo bomb. >> ever get one of those >> very nice. >> welcome back to "morning joe." two former presidents two guys who lived in that house right there were all smiles monday when they reunited in washington. president bill clinton and george w. bush announced their presidential libraries along those with tell der president bush and those of lyndon johnson will lead a presidential scholars program. president bush shared advice with his predecessor on becoming a grandfather. >> what advice do you have for president clinton on leadership qualities necessary to become a grade grand dad. >> be prepared to fall completely in love again. you're not going to believe it. you're just not going to believe

the joy and the fun and i'm looking forward to talking to you after, after that child is born and we all hope the very best for chelsea and that the child's health be strong like i'm confident it will be. it will be an awesome period for you, and yeah get ready also to be like the lowest person in the pecking order in your family. [ laughter ] >> very, very, very cute. >> they have become the snl characters. love them together. >> that's nice. >> you know what, you can unite on that. >> absolutely. snook a grandparent. >> coming up a deadline for a deal. will president obama keep his word and take executive action to tackle the crisis on the border. that's coming up at the top of the hour. and as we approach the 13th anniversary of 9/11 is the

united states still in the position of strength to stop a foreign attack? congressman ed royce who chairs the foreign affairs committee is our guest when "morning joe" our guest when "morning joe" comes right back.

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capitol hill republican representative from california and chairman of the house foreign affairs committee congressman ed royce. and mr. chairman, as chairman you have special importance here. so do you plan to support the president's plans to close in on isis? >> yes, i do. but i think also it's important that the president lay out a strategy, long term strategy that will bring on board allies. certainly the arab league has shown a responsiveness now to getting involved here. our nato allies are talking about joining the campaign to attack isis. and i think, i think as arab league said the other day they want to hear the plan. i think members of congress feel the same way. we'll have next week, the secretary of state up to get into the details. but, yes, i think we need -- >> should there be an official authorization, mr. chairman? >> well, i think the president would argue under existing, you know, law he has that authority but as we hear the detail and scope of the plan we can see

more authorization is needed. >> some people talk about limiting about the amount of time that congress would authorize it. do you think, because we've heard republicans talk about how timelines are a bad thing. should it be open ended? >> i think we're a little ahead of the game here because wednesday we'll hear the full plan, joe, and frankly tuesday the leadership on both sides of the aisle will hear the details as well. the following week we'll really bore into the details in our committee. i think what i want to hear is that the focus is going to be on the training base upon where isis brings in these foreign fighters and gives them this capability, because it's that safe-haven, that sanctuary that's used to prepare the isis fighters from all over the world now, most are not from the middle east, to attack not just these targets but also to go back and attack britain or potentially australia or the

united states. you know, you hear these threats and i think getting at that base is most important, knocking out those camps. >> so the president talked an awful lot in his interview on "meet the press" about iraq, did not talk that much about syria. yet this morning "the washington post" poll shows overwhelming support for attacks even into syria. do you agree with other policy analysts that you can't defeat isis unless you go after them in syria? >> i absolutely believe this. about seven months ago myself and elliot engel the ranking member, the democratic member suggested we target in syria before they come across the border into iraq. one of the missed opportunities here had we used air power when these columns were on the march out on the open desert, you could have obliterated these columns, and let's get back to that point. they have a base of operation.

they have munitions depot. doing their training there. hit that target. >> if we hit the target in syria the next question is it not a zero sum game by hurting isis helping assad helping his grip on power in syria. >> here's why i think not. i met last night with leaders here from the free syrian army. we had a late conversation. you know, we forget there's a third faction in that struggle. for the last three years the free syrian army has been fighting isis on the ground and they have been asking us for support for weapons. and i think that probably will be part of the president's plan. we should have been supporting the kurds with the anti-tank missiles that they needed. we should have been supporting the free syrian army. they both have been asking for this. i think there will be a plan rolled out to do that. >> as chairman you have more of a view of what's going on inside, behind closed doors.

do you think the president has been deliberate and effective so far or disengaged? >> i think we have deferred on this and especially over the last seven months as these victories were rolled up into tikrit. city by city, in the most reason case, falluja, mosul. be decisive, hit these targets. you have authority to do it as president of the united states. we haven't done it. now we're to the point where there's a consensus but a little late in the game because they've taken a lot of territory and they got this feeling now that they are sort of invincible. they need be knocked back hard in order to send the message to the insurgents far from invincible, the war is now going to be taken back to them. they will not kill americans with impunity. >> chairman ed royce, always great to see you. you go into this "the washington

post" poll 52% of americans say that the obama presidency is a failure. 56% disapprove of his handling of foreign policy. yet overwhelming numbers of americans want to see action. i can't help but think a lot of americans have decided he has gone a bit too deliberately up to this point. i suspect if we go after isis and we're successful you'll see those numbers turn around. snook deliberate, given what this country has been through is exactly ultimately what people want. >> as we learned again learning from iraq in 2003, following the polls when you are making foreign policy, is always a disastrous thing to do. >> coming up at the top of the hour, ray rice is suspended indefinitely from nfl. there were new questions about the integrity of the league. what did they know and when the did they know it? we'll answer those questions in just a few minutes. plus is president obama doing the right thing by delaying

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hard-working man. he's got like ten jobs. daytime show premiered yesterday. yesterday he was upstairs with jimmy fallon and playing one of his roles as host of family feud. it was jimmy against the roots. >> name another term for marijuana. quest. >> weed. >> weed. >> name another term for marijuana. >> reefer. [ laughter ] >> i apologize. >> i'm the host of this show. reefer. >> pot.

>> pot. >> name another term for marijuana. >> grass. [ laughter ] >> grass? what? >> what is grass? >> who the hell says grass? >> grass. >> whose grandma ma is in this damn survey. you stop smoking that grass. it's grass. >> what is it? >> our remaining answer, number two -- maryjane. we have a winner. it's the quest family. >> entertaining and informative. >> maryjane above pot. interesting survey. >> i never heard that. is that a real name? >> yeah. oh, yes.

>> m. j. >> marijuana. >> thank you, barnacle. so educational. top of the hour. joys still with us. you put up with us. we have barn cal, willie, joe and me. we have a lot to get to. we'll start with the top story, a new lie released video of a domestic violence incident that the nfl did what critics should have been done weeks ago. suspending ray rice from the league indefinitely. they should kick him out. supreme court footage shows an altercation between rice and his then fiancee in an elevator in atlantic city. rice appears to have hit his fiancee powerfully knocking her off her feet. rice had previously been suspended for two games over a separate video of the same incident that was released earlier this year. so that video, of course, just shows what happened outside of the elevator.

not sure why that wasn't as bad. when you saw what was inside you get the whole story. here's a back-to-back running of sound bites between head coach john harbaugh, he reacts first. what you'll see is when rice was initially suspended and then you'll see what he said last night after the new footage surfaced leading the ravens to cut rice from the team. >> it's really not, it's not a big deal. just part of the process. we always said from the beginning that the circumstances will determine the consequences. there are consequences when you make a mistake like that. i stand behind ray. he's a heck of a guy. he's done everything right since. he makes mistakes. he has to pay a consequence. that's good for kids to understand it works that way, that's how it works, that's how it should be. we'll move forward and next guy will have to step up and ray will be back when the time comes. it's not something we're dwelling on. we're not worried about it. we're moving forward. i have nothing but hope and

goodwill for ray and his wife. we'll do everything to help them go forward. something we saw for the first time today, all of us, and it changed things, of course. it made things a little bit different. >> first of all, coach harbaugh, in that first clip had already seen the fact that somebody that played for his team, beat up on a woman, knocked her out, dragged her out of an elevator and i'm quoting him here. he says it's not a big deal. he's a heck of a guy. and he made a mistake and kids can learn when you make a mistake. two games. there is a mindset and there's a culture in the national football league, or else that coach would be as horrified by the other 99%

of us. nobody -- nobody i know would say it's not a big deal unless you obviously live in a culture that puts up with that sort of thing. >> it is a culture that clearly puts up with domestic violence. it is a culture that puts up with and accepts an even supports domestic violence. i don't think i need to say it again and i meant everything i said. that woman, no matter what she says, no matter what she tweets or is told to tweet is a victim out of that elevator, okay. that woman had her ears boxed, she was knocked out and she was dragged out of an elevator and if for some reason she's so completely lly encumbered by t relationship that she can't see she's a victim any more that's one issue. but the nfl supports domestic violence by not even -- i mean

it doesn't even seem like he's kicked out. suspended indefinitely. are they hoping things will get better? no. that is a deal breaker. it should be over. there are things you accept in relationships with people. there are things you accept in partnerships. and on teams. there are things you don't accept. >> i think it's not just a culture that's exclusive to the nfl, this is a football culture. people don't realize how many women watch football. i grew up on football, i grew up in denver, only place is more fanatical than texas and florida is denver. football culture is from pee-wee on up. it's not just the nfl. this is a culture that is bred from childhood it's all about the game, the team and even the wives in terms of janay rice is

made to put out there to defend the club. it's all about the game. she's put out there -- >> you say it's about the club and the game. what about the money? >> it's about the sponsors and the money. >> up and down, willie, it's about the money. i'm still trying to figure out how the nfl didn't know -- i don't believe them. >> that's the question. how tmz sports get a hold of a video that the nfl says it was unable to gate video of. nfl security as mike pointed out is kmd of former secret service agents, former fbi agents and they couldn't get a surveillance tape from a casino. they couldn't get it from the police or the casino. we just got a statement, brand new from the nfl this morning pushing back on suggestions from tmz that no one from the league ever asked for that video from the casinos. the statement reads this way, security for atlantic city casinos is handled by the new jersey state police. any videos related to an ongoing

criminal investigation are held in the custody of the state police. as we said yesterday we requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident including the video from inside the elevator. that video was not made available to us. >> come on. >> the nfl doubling down and saying we haven't seen it, unable to get the video. >> mike, talk about people working inside nfl. in a casino -- how stupid is that statement >> that statement is preposterous. there's few institutions in america other than casinos that have more cameras every where. every where. secondly, your reaction to the initial video that we all saw, where ray rice treats his wife like she's a piece of luggage at an airport, dropping her on a sidewalk before catching a plane begs the question what happened in the elevator. so the nfl setter being

willfully ignorant in not asking the question or they are not doing something they do multiple times each and every day where each team has a collection of former dea agents, secret service agents, fbi agents, law enforcement agents. >> was there somebody in the room with the commissioner that says oh, by the way, you know, there's a camera on inside if you want to see what happened. everybody has that. let them know that. all the dea agents, all the secret service agents, they all knew -- they didn't want to see what was inside that elevator. tmz gets it and the nfl doesn't? >> this horrific crime and it's a crime not an incident, it's a crime, what it gets to -- >> it's not a quote mistake. >> no. it goes the arrow gilbert arenas and hypocrisy of the national football league which when you think about it is the ultimate sunday religion in the united states of america.

it's the tabernacle of sundays. presidents of the united states have changed speaking schedules to accommodate national football league playoff games. >> the president has chimed in on this, the vice president. this is as high as it gets in terms of a public outcry all the way to the top of the president of the united states. >> if they suspected ray rice smoked weed they would have moved heaven and earth. ask him. you're telling me what did was to basically what did they do? ask him one time? go to his lawyers. his lawyers can discover any evidence against him. >> the lawyers have the tape. here's vice president joe biden on the issue. >> so you know the first reason to nfl respond, in my view, so many women fans in this billion dollar industry. all of a sudden they said wait a minute he got suspended for a couple of games. whoa that's not enough.

they got more sensitized. then longer. then when the video was out there and saw how brutal it was the ravens did the right thing fired him immediately. you could have argued they should have done it sooner, didn't want it, have the reason s-it's happening. >> well, it's happened. it took a very long time. i want to go back to, again, to what we talked about, marijuana, pot, ganja, maryjane. that's the most stunning thing to me about how the nfl values women. that you have two games for beating a women, knocking her out, throwing her out of the elevator, and then somebody smokes pot. >> it's legal in some states. >> it's going to be decriminalized in philadelphia, in colorado. you can go state after state

after state and a person gets suspended for the entire year? that is, that speaks to the value, to their values. you know, i'm a big believer and i always have been whether we talked about john edwards or, you know, mark sanford or go down the list or, you know, i've always said, you know, everybody makes a mistake. everybody that. this is just not one of those cases where a guy that's this big knocks out a woman in an elevator. this is not one of those things where you can say live and let live. he needs be banned for life? i don't know. >> i do. >> but i'm kind of thinking if michael vick gets sent to jail for years based on what he did with dogs, i'm kind of thinking

this guy should not be back in the nfl for a very long time. >> so you're a lawyer. you have been in court with multiple number of prosecutors, let me ask you a question. what i suspect of this story do we talk about in terms of the atlantic county new jersey prosecutor who saw that tape, who saw that tape and basically let ray rice walk? >> because he's a celebrity and because it's about the nfl and he's a football player. he was a regular joe schmoe on the street he would be in jail. this is a multidollar industry and he got special treatment. to me his employer had the primary responsibility to act and the attitude of his coach of saying, you know, after seeing him drag his then fiancee out of an elevator like a rag doll, consequences, two games. >> by the way, if he did not get

the tape to see what happened inside the elevator he should lose his job. speak of losing their jobs, we had bill rodden talk about how commissioner goodell might not survive this. does he survive? >> it depends. if we find out that they have, in fact, seen the tape "inside the nfl," that the commissioner knew about this tape, there's no way he survives. we saw just a minute ago the nfl gave us a statement reiterating we didn't see the statement, the police in the state of new jersey would not give us the tape, the casino would not give us the tape and we have not seen it. now the counter point to that is the tmz starts story from yesterday which said casino told tmz the nfl didn't ask for the tape. we'll find out truth. >> roger, very good family, good dad. >> he's bean good commissioner. >> this is a moment for him.

it really is. there was talk whether or not he should step down. i'll tell you this much, he needs to act in such a severe and clear way because this isn't going away. >> listen, he needs to get out. i know he has a lot of people around him. ate billion dollar business. everybody is giving him advice right now. but if you're more than five feet away from the headquarters of nfl you know what he has to do today. he needs to go out, he needs to hold a press conference, he needs have a mea culpa. it sickens him inside that this happened and he needs to talk about the blind spot that the nfl had and talk about how they will change that culture. they won't just change this. they are going to change the entire culture of the nfl. >> a lot of these teams have some great philanthropic programs and great people working for them. we know some team owners. i think they need to have

collective action that matches what happened here. democrats in tough elections may believe the president is holding off action when it comes to immigration but other members of his party are disappointed with this move. democratic representative from texas, congressman this was disappointing to say the least. what should the president have done given the politics at play assuming you agree this was politics. >> you know, we know that there are windows to address controversial issues like immigration and you don't do it right before an election. that window was closing. what was a little surprising of the president when he said the day before he decided to postpone this, i think he was in europe 24 hours before i'll work on this real quickly and do it by the end of september. next day what happens is he basically says i'm going to go ahead and punt this to after the

election. we know windows close right before election so it was just very surprising he said the day before that he was going addressing this soon. >> congressman, the president has been in office for six years. for the first two years democrats owned the house and the senate of his presidency. do you believe that he's going more likely to do this after republicans possibly pick up more seats in the senate? i don't understand that now? >> this is why groups like that are led by folks that have been attacking the republicans, i do blame the republicans right now. but keep in mind that the first two years in 2009, 2010, the democrats we had the house, the senate and the presidency and i remember a meeting very vividly april of 2009 where the hispanic caucus, we went up there and asked the president, we have a window to address immigration at this time, immigration reform

and what happened the president said i'm a little tied up i'll do it later. then we lost the majority in the house and then after that it became very difficult to address. we lost a window. we should have taken advantage at that time. >> congressman, this is just the latest of many, many delays in meaningful immigration reform in this country over the years. do you think there will come a moment after the elections sometime next year or in the future when there's a time for meaningful immigration reform because it feels like the time is never right according to somebody. >> you're absolutely right about that. the opportunity is never right. it's a tough decision. it's an emotional decision. we have to do it. we have to do immigration reform. the time is never going to be perfect. we have to get a little fortitude and do the right thing.

when the 2016 presidential elections come that window closes again. >> still ahead on "morning joe," senator gillibrand will be here on set with her new book "off the sidelines." and then senator tim kaine joins us in our next hour. plus royal baby watch part two. we'll hear what prince william has to say for being a father for a second time. a rare virus has infected thousands of children. dr. nancy snyderman has that report. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.

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officials and the police chief to review the police department. court system would also be revamped after being accused of taking advantage of low-income minorities with a series of needs. >> i wonder if they will talk to the mayor -- >> there wasn't a race problem. >> who said there wasn't a race problem. >> i wonder how the election will go for him. >> new york daily news getting tough on the costume characters in times square. >> i think they are starting to cut little holes -- come on. >> new york city council member has introduced a bill that would require the workers to get a license before taking pictures with tourists. several workers have been arrested for assault and accused of intimidating photo takers who don't tip. >> it's weird. the telegraph during an event at oxford prince william said he and the duchess of cambridge of thrilled to be expecting their second child. >> she's feeling okay.

tricky few days. it's great news. she's feeling better. the big news and big international domestic news at the moment that's where my thoughts are at the moment. >> i tell you what, the decade has been very tough on that guy too. >> oh, stop. aren't you something. >> no. come on. >> i mean really. >> the new baby is fourth in line behind brother prince, his brother prince george turns 1 in july. some people argue they put this news out there to make things happier before the scots decide to finally break free and get independence. scots always said keep an eye on us we'll be independent and then we'll take over the world. >> health firms are trying to figure out if an unusual

respiratory virus is to maim for infecting children. they are showing up with severe flu symptoms. the outbreak is mostly in the midwest and the south. joining us now from rocky mountain hospital for children in denver, nbc news chief medial editor dr. nancy snyderman. nancy, good see you. i was watching you on nightly last night. you're out one denver so it's clearly not just the south and midwest, it's all over the country. what is this? what should parents know? what should they be looking for >> families of routine virus that can cause upper respiratory infections. but this virus 68 the one causing this recent problem it's an outlier and a bad actor and taking kids who look like they have bad colds early on and just pushes it forward into severe respiratory problems. there are several children on

ventilators upstairs in this hospital. and now over 12 states have reported infections to the cdc. so this is one that i think is a perfect storm of a bad virus. vulnerable population that is kids with asthma and other respiratory problems. and it's back to school. so kids are swapping germs like crazy. >> so, nancy, my youngest son has minor respiratory problems, has a nebulizer once in a while. lot of parents are concerned. what should i be doing. he's back in school this week. what should we do? >> what's the treatment? >> interesting we still have to talk prevention because you can prevent most of this. kids forget to do it because we touch our hands up to our face, to our eyes over 1,000 times a day. phenomenal hand washing, alcohol wipes, whatever you want to do to minimize the germs. sneeze like this not into your

hand. and if your child suddenly has a bad cold but now has difficulty breathing or very high fever then you have crossed from a bad cold into something else and you need to be seen in the emergency room. we don't want the e.r.s to be routine triage centers but if your child is having difficulty breathing that's when you want to get help. >> i want to switch to this autism study. here's the headline. a new pilot study suggests that signs of autism symptoms can be erased if babies begin therapy even before they can toddle. >> cruel little study. the seven babies. they started intervention at the age of six months. what's great the therapists taught parents how to be the doctors if you will and do the intervention with their children. we talked about signs of autism,

floppiness, inability to make eye contact, they don't hug very much, hyper focused on objects rather than people. when parents see early signs which can be as early as six months the tendency is to say not my child and feel shameful about it. this study proves although small when you start to intervene and force babies to make eye contact to really indulge in physical contact and talk to babies with real words, babies not only can catch up, they can erase a lot of those signs of autism. at the age of 2 children were speaking normally. >> this is fascinating and fascinating because people found out sometime back one of my children had asperger's. they always would come up to me and say i have a 9-year-old, 10-year-old, 11-year-old and be really upset. what can you tell me? i said i can tell you the enemy is the television.

the enemy is video games. the enemy is the computer. when i say they are the enemy they are the enemy, they are worse than drugs for a child that's challenged this way just like you said. get in front of them, make them look you in the eye, engage with them and i can tell you -- without knowing this study happened, i have found the most remarkable change over the past five, six years by just engaging and saying no, no, no you don't want to grow up this way. i is a this to you you say this back to me. >> it's a time as a parents you have to not worry about embarrassing your child. if you're introducing your child to someone and your child goes like this, you say charlie pick up your head. shake so-and-so's hand and look in their eyes. they may think it's rude or embarrassed but in the moment teach those life skills to kids. they emerge as teenagers being able to say hello it's nice to meet you and go out and have a

conversation. you have to break that isolationism. >> this is a very helpful sign. it's a very small study. certainly suggests something that a lot of parents have figured out. certainly more extreme cases that i'm sure this may not have much of an impact. >> nancy's advice even with older kids about shaking hands. don't worry about what other people think. most people understand you're working with your child on something. do it. do it. let got it. engage. dr. nancy snyderman, thank you so much. coming up, how america's richest man is now trying reshape the way history is taught. we'll explain that in just a bit. but first senator gillibrand in her own words a candid look at her professional life and how she made to it washington. the new york democrat joins us next.

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joining us on set, senator gillibrand. author of the new book "off the sidelines." also with us, kasie hunt. casey, good to have you on board. let's first talk about the president will be addressing the

nation on wednesday and trying network with congress today. obviously, your thoughts. will you be supporting any action to close in on isis? >> i think it's a serious problem, and it is a problem that's metastasizing. everyone will put in resources. this is not something that's easy. not going to be a short-lived thing. i think it's important he lay out that strategy for not only congress but the american people on wednesday so we can understand more fully what his approach will be. >> you'll support action against isis? >> yes, we have to. it's a serious threat. >> what are you hearing from your constituents. we talked about it on this show the same day after the second tragic beheading i had a friend call me up and say is it still safe to live in new york? of course it is. mika had a good friend of hers more shaken since 9/11, what are

you hearing from your constituents? >> we're new york. we're the number one terror target. people know that. there's over a dozen attempts in new york city, terrorist attempts since 9/11 and we have to be vigilance. this is a very violent terrorist organization more violent than al qaeda in certain places and we have to do something. >> did the president make a mistake saying they were a jv team several months back. >> i don't know why he said that. every briefing i've been told this is a very violent, aggressive organization intent to do harm against the u.s. allies. we have to have a very sophisticated multiprong approach to even have a hoech degrading and over time eliminate the threat. >> there's a "the washington post" poll that says 71% of americans support action against isis. 90% of americans view isis as a

threat to the united states. but what comfort can you give the american public that this will not become more than limited air strikes, the president said a limited campaign because as we said earlier in the show the effort to take out al qaeda and taliban was supposed to be limited and that was 13 years ago. >> there's huge concern. most americans don't want to engage ground troops again. but that doesn't mean there's not certain strategies we can use to be effective. i lay the fact that he said saudi arabia will be engaged in financing and europe and allies like the uk and australia will be helpful in special ops and certain strategic missions. that's the way in my view to handle something so concerning as this very fast growing, fast-moving terrorist organization that we'll does want to destabilize and terrorize. >> do you think congress needs to vote to authorize. >> there will be a time where that will be necessary. at the end of the day the president is entitled to do.

he can protect americans abroad. he can protect our embassies. but if you're talking about a prolonged engagement, if this will take two, three, five years there will be a need for congressional approval of certain strategies. so that's why i want to hear what he's going to say. that's why congress is very eager to be briefed on what's happening. it's not -- it's not a small thing. this is a very serious issue. as new yorkers we want to make sure we root out terrorism especially when they are directly putting us at risk. >> let's talk about the book. >> i want to ask about the book. >> there's many f-bombs in the book. not as many we have in our post-show meetings. still this doesn't read like -- it's not sterilized and clean. >> definitely not sterilized particularly the bathroom stories not sterilized. >> i really liked the way you kind of addressed the subtle and

not so subtle challenges that women face. you know some of them face it in business. you face it in washington. i'll touch on one excerpt and then we'll ask about some others. one day i met with a labor leader to get his advice on how best to introduce myself to their unions wayne their support. he said quote, when i first met you in 2006 you looked beautiful. a breath of fresh air. to win this election you need to be beautiful again. i merely choked. i relate with this. i can't tell you how many times i've had a version of this in my business. >> you were told if you wanted to get back on the air lose weight. >> yeah. >> it was very similar. it was devastating. this is something i did not know well. i'm sitting in the senate dining room and i'm trying to get good advice how to win my sfirs statewide election and he basically tells me i'm too fat to win.

if i could have said what i wanted to say i would have swore at him and stood up and threat room. i was so deflated. i can't tell you how upsetting that was and how reduced i felt. like i'm so much more than how i look. i have ideas. i want to serve. i want to make a difference. for this man to say, you know, you can't do it because you don't look the right way. i was devastated. >> what had happened to me the sad thing is i knew the person was right. so it was really hard to accept. >> one of the reasons why this chapter it's about appearance, and i wanted to -- i told these stories specifically to illustrate a much broader theme about how are women treated in the workplace. when does appearance affect a certain career. in politics it does have an impact. i talk about a study that says when women's looks are discussed in politics it undermines them whether it's positive or whether it's negative. i saw that in my first campaign.

i had an opponent who first said she's just a pretty face to undermine me. then i had a mailer where it's shaded green and my hair -- she's too ugly. >> i have to ask you because of these quotes we talked about this on the air good thing you were working out because you don't want to get porky. >> that was said to me a couple of weeks ago. >> you were not six months pregnant at the time. >> no but i look it. >> squeeze your stomach and said don't lose too much weight now i like my girls chubby. senator ron johnson says it too. why wouldn't you name names here? >> because the reason why i used these examples is to illustrate the broader point. i want to elevate the debate. it's not about a specific insult of one person it's about what has been said to you. >> this is harassment. >> not for me. they are not my bosses. they didn't affect me. what this is about how do we elevate the debate to talk about

these broader challenges. >> wouldn't you elevate the debate by naming names. >> no because it's then about that individual. i want to talk about the bigger challenges the fact we don't get equal pay. your whole book is knowing about your value. >> i would name names. i named names. >> for me it's much more important to elevate it to talk about this very important issue of how are women treated in the workplace. why don't we have equal pay. or supports like paid leave. >> have they talked to you. have you gone back and talked to them. >> no not yet. >> so i think it's interesting because when we talked about think got a lot of reaction and it came right down the middle. some people were really upset with me for thinking you should have named names. >> every woman will make her own judgment and every situation is different. >> let me ask you this. isn't it a stronger statement when you actually point out the

perpetrator. >> not necessarily. those instances were irrelevant to me. i was very far along in my career. the instance that was far more undermining to me was when i was a young lawyer and i worked hard on a case and my boss at a dinner basically spend half the time saying look at her great hair cut look how great she looks. i wanted to hear she's work sewing hard, she's done a great job. the reason i specifically go into all this is because the young woman reading the book she's going to have her own challenges and have to figure out how do i move ahead. >> what was the reaction to the stomach squeeze. what did you say? >> i smiled and walked away. i was just wow that's crazy. >> that's all you can do. by the way let me just say this is amazing. i love pictures of your kids in the back. when i was young i didn't get the same nice hair cuts.

these kids are so cute. how old are they? >> 6 and 10. the book talks a lot about the juggles of parenting. my challenges are a lot easier than most but still common. getting the breakfasts made, getting the school lunches, out the door on time, remember the tai kwan do uniform. >> you're doing amazing work. thank you for coming in. the book is "off the sidelines." thank you so much. still ahead we'll explain why bill gates is trying rewrite history literally. then you heard about the purr just happiness what about the happiness of the pursuit. how one thrill seeker took on live's biggest journey. >> before we go break this friday we'll be talking to legendary filmmaker ken burns about his new documentary the roosevelts. all week we'll be asking you

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i love this next guest. chris is the author of "the happiness of pursuit." finding the quest that will bring purpose to your life. >> i love it. >> we are very impressed by you and very impressed with this book. >> thank you. i'm happy. >> but this took you 11 years. you're 36 now. you had this goal to visit all these countries but the time you were 35, and then write about it. so this is not only self help, but about fulfilling this life goal for you.

>> tell us about it. >> >> and what did you find in your journey? >> i had a crazy idea i couldn't get out of my head. to travel but combine it with goal setting. to put structure around it. after i got close to 100, i thought i'll go to every country in the world. >> in the end of it you talk about not the meaning of life, but how do you find happiness? >> i think you find happiness through the challenge, through the striving. through working towards something you find meaningful and purposeful. i met great people on the way also pursuing quests. i wrote about them. they also found happiness and purpose in their lives. >> what is the pursuit right now? you're on the book tour, obviously. but you have big goals for yourself. you've been able to do this all by 35. what is next if r you. >> well, going to every country in the world was great. it was awesome and fantastic and transformative. i met all these great people along the way. i began assen independent

traveler doing my own thing. i gained a community as a result. >> let's talk about these people. scott young completed a four-year m.i.t. computer science curriculum. in one year sasha martin cooked a meal in every country. john maintained -- for 17 years now. that would not seem to bring most of us happiness. but that was his quest, right? >> yes. it's the ride. >> so i heard a lot of amazing stories. >> yes, of course. i heard amazing stories like the guy who ran 250 marathons in a single year. like john francis who took the 15-year vow of silence. every quest must have a destination. it must have a goal. something you're working towards. but it is about the challenge. i like what you said about sasha martin. she's a young mother from oklahoma. she wasn't able to run 250 marathons in a single year. she couldn't visit every country in the world. but she wanted to bring up her

young daughter from an international perspective, so she decided to cook a meal from every country in the world. >> this is my parent's main principle in raising a kid. have a goal. contribute to society. do you have a difference of who you were when you had no goals and what you felt like? >> absolutely. >> the difference is happiness. hopefully it helps other people as well. >> wonderful. >> it's the green light. it's the pursuit of the green light. great gatsby is such a tragedy. it's really not. the pursuit was already over. his life was over. >> chris, thank you. >> unbelievable. we want to get you talk to talk about this more. >> up next, the white house is drawing up its plan to defeat isis. how long is congress willing to go? senator tim kaine will weigh in on that at the top of the hour

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joining us now from nbc sports, josh elliott. m and nbc political analyst eugene robinson as we join you the the top of the hour. >> josh, how clueless was the nfl? >> they seem to be chasing the story, don't they? interest in the time line of all this, when the commissioner roger goodell came out and said i didn't get this right. that's in it of itself a stunning turn of events. and then to have this happen. >> and ray race was saying it's no big deal. he made a mistake. we get upset about the fact that

he's out for two days. a guy who smokes a little weed is out for a year. >> and a dog that is running dogfights goes to jail for two years. >> yeah, the important thing to note is for instance, with the josh gordon suspension with the marijuana, these are collectively bargain penalties that both sides essentially agreed to. the fact, though, that again when this two-game suspension was first announced, it wasn't just the public outcry. it was the advocacy groups. >> and what about all the sponsors of the nfl? they have a lot of women that drive a lot of purchasing of a lot of products. at what point does the nfl get sensitive to that? >> i want to believe at this point. and again, in the time line of this, roger goodell came out just days ago to increase the penalty rather substantially to put down a six-game suspension

for a first offense and a lifetime suspension for the second. it's a visceral reaction. >> still though, mika. i understand they revised their policy. if you weigh 275 pounds and you're all muscle and you beat up 115-pound woman. then you get six games off. if you smoke a little weed, you're out for a year. i -- that is still an organization that doesn't get it. >> you know, we talked about it here. what we saw was the video that they saw because apparently they either didn't ask enough questions to get their hands on the video, or they saw it and didn't care. either extremely bad. the damage is done no matter what they do now. massive damage has been done to the nfl, which looks like it promotes domestic violence, supports it, doesn't care about it. all messages, all sent by their reaction to that video from the

get-go. can anyone on the set disagree? >> it was interesting in social media. the the number of players who were tweeting their outrage. they're unmitigated outranl, and that, you know, he had gone into that locker room and said he had acted in self defense. teammates supporting teammates, that's what they do. now his support in his own locker room has plummeted. >> right. and the ravens sent out a tweet saying she apologized. >> well, it was during the press conference. that's when the shift started. when they were live tweeting a very awkward press conference. and janay rice, no matter what she says in a tweet or standing

by her husband side, from the video that now everybody can see from two angles is a victim of domestic violence, whether she likes it or not. whether she wants to admit it or not. whether she's been pushed into believing that she's not by somebody who is pressuring her. or whether she's convinced herself of something else. that's what happens to victims of domestic violence. they become emotionally debilita debilitated. and it's up to us not to condone this. here's the reaction of rice harbaugh. you'll watch that. right after we'll run what he said last night after the new footage surfaced leading the ravens to cut rice from the team. >> it's not a big deal. it's part of the process. we said the circumstances would determine the consequences. there are consequences when you make a mistake like that. i stand behind ray.

he's a heck of a guy. he's done everything right since. it's good for kids to understand that it works that way. that's how it works. we'll move forward. the next guy will have to step up. ray will be back when the time comes. it's not something we're dwelling on. we're not worried. we're just moving forward. >> i have nothing but hope and good will for ray and janay, and we'll doe whatever we can going forward to help them. it's something we awe for the first time today, all of us. it changed things, of course. it made things different. >> joe, thomas, i have to say i really like the way you've been on this. i really do. from the get-go when that tape aired, you said get him out of there. i don't know why others couldn't have been as clear and concise about right and wrong. when we covered this, you jumped

all over it. sometimes you don't need to hedge. >> so let's get the nfl out there with their new statement this morning. they're pushing back saying no one from the league ever asked the casino for video inside the elevator. that's what tmz is saying. >> come on, now. >> yeah, security for atlantic city casinos handled by the new jersey state police. any are held in the custody of state police. as we said yesterday we requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. that video was not made available. >> so the coach says not a big deal. he made a mistake. you saw a prosecutor that saw this on tv. decided not po pursue criminal charges. we all noel va toknow elevators cameras in them. all around this is pathetic.

this is a lot of people defending a really, really bad actor. >> yeah, this is worse than pathetic actually. it's criminal and immoral to say the at least. you know. here's my question, and the question i had all day yesterday. what did they think it looked like. what did they think it looked like when one of the toughest running back fls thes in the nf a woman unconscious. >> he drags her out of the elevator like luggage. >> did they think it was pretty sight? did they think it was like no big deal and they didn't have to deal with the fact that there was something that happened before we saw him dragging her out of the elevator. what you first saw, that's the nfl. that's the mindset of the nfl. we're just going to bucket up and go ahead and we're going to move forward and we're going to

pretend it didn't happen. >> i talked to willy about espn. they had a series on the nfl. it talks about how the nfl was. like a fictional series. they said if you want any of our clips -- and so they killed it. there's been people knowing about the underside of the nfl for a very long time. >> well, that's certainly true. but the thing this brought to mind for me which i don't know how many other people see it, but i think about paterno and penn state. you're talking about large institutions that have a huge amount of money at stake. >> right. >> and they have, as a large institutions do when they have money at stake, they rally around their own. they protect and cover up and turn a blind eye towards abuse of all kinds. not just o abuse of women, which is horrible, abuse of women, abuse of whoever. some of these are worse than others. ul all of them have the same

instinct. to make it all go away. >> they knew they had a racially insensitive owner in los angeles for quite some time. they did very little about it. i'm just going to say, i love penn state. i love penn state because they were a class outfit, a class organization. alabama always played penn state and would always mix with the fans, and i just don't think there's a group of fans that i have more respect for in america. that said, they should have got the blanken death penalty for allowing the molestation of little boys and then allowing this guy to stay on the sidelines for as long as they did. they didn't. and now you got the ncaa lifting what little sanctions they put on him. what's going on there? >> you know, i think first of all we shouldn't -- we should be careful to not hold the ncaa up as a paragon. >> no! >> in any way. don't worry.

nobody around here will. the comparison to your point is that you have essentially corporate -- it's almost like a cruise ship. you turn the wheel, but it takes a while for the ship to start moving. and so it was a surprise, certainly for the ncaa to do what they have done now and walk back the sanctions that they had imposed. however, you know, then you have arguments. are we punishing a group of kids who had nothing to do with what happened? >> and that's mika's arkt. don't punish the kids. don't punish the student body. that said, the prams made millions and millions and millions of dollars by turning a blind you to this. somebody they should have done ha long time ago. goodell, is his job in jeopardy? >> i don't think his job is in jeopardy. we're going to see how this plays out. right now they are saying, and

adamantly so that they had no knowledge. they hadn't seen this video. but i do agree. when you saw the first video, the outrage about this one i guess almost surprises me. visceral reaction, seeing that punch land, it's horrifying. i don't know what anybody thought happened when we saw that first video of his unconscious fiancee being draggeded from an elevator like a sack of potatoes. it makes it worse. now you have a time line, but it was horrible to begin with. it was shocking to begin with. >> in all honesty, though, about mr. goodell. all the best to him. but i hope janay rice is okay. >> i don't think she is. >> over and over and over again and how humiliating this is to her life and what this is doing to her emotions. >> also there's a child here as well. so all of the sudden --

>> we both like roger. >> i want him to come on the show. >> he's been a good commissioner. this is a blind spot that not only he had. the entire nfl had. he needs to get in there. he needs to explain how this happens. it's a terrible, terrible mistake. he needs to ensure people that he gets that now. >> in just a few hours, president obama will meet with congressional leaders for both parties as he begins to lay out his plans to defeat islamic state militants in iraq and syria. secretary of state john kerry is heading to the middle east to build an international coalition dedicated to defeating isis. the state department says more than 40 countries are on board already. and the new "washington post" abc news poll shows 71% of americans support air strikes in iraq. up 26 points since june. nearly two-thirds are in favor of air strikes in syria. and close to 60% support giving

arms and ammunition to forces battling isis. joining us now from capitol tim hill. senator mccain who serves on the armed forces and foreign relations committee. >> >> senator, how do you think this will play out? what are you looking to hear from the the president when he talks about this? what do you think the consensus is on this. >> what i hope it will do is looking to hear the president lay out a clear definition of what our mission should be. there have been confusing statements, but that's not unusual. the start of the air strike campaign like this. i think some signs coming out of the white house are very positive. and especially the work that's been done to try to bring partners together is very important. we can't police a region that

won't police itself. and and we can't bear the burden alone. >> that's what we're expecting. >> i'm sure you've seen the "washington post" poll. almost 90% of americans say isis is a threat. you have overwhelming majority also wanting us to bomb isis in iraq, but also isis in syria. would you support a president? would you authorize the bombing of isis in syria? >> joe, i definitely think there's a case to be made for it. depending on how the president makes the case, i'm very inclined to support him. >> what do you need from the president to support this? >> i need to hear there are partners on board. and i need to hear the limitations. the air strikes and some sort of suggestion about the timing, how long this is going to take. we've heard maybe a few months. we've heard maybe a few years.

>> tell isis to go high and survive? >> i don't know that it needs to be a completely hard deadline. but the administration is laying out expectation. but joe, what i really want the president to do and what i believe is constitutionally required but also ultimately the best thing for the men and women we ask to risk their lives is for him not to just tell congress what's up? as soon as he says it's beyond protecting american lives at the embassy to go on offense, which is what he said on the chuck todd show on sunday, then the constitution compels to be involved. i'm urging the president let's debate this. instead of chewing up time doing

things of less importance. >> senator tim kaine, thank you very much. >> senator, thank you. >> we greatly appreciate it. the president is so upside down on the foreign policy numbers. 52% of americans saying his presidency has been a failure. what does the president have to do to regain momentum? not only for the white house, but to have the power a commander in chief needs? >> he needs to be clear. he needs to lead. and look, we've had a lot of debate on the set about what should happen. the president has to go out and make that case. we're talking about 76% of americans want us to go into syria. >> as long as there are not boots on the ground. as long as it's an air campaign, that's less surprising. the president needs to lay out the strategic rational.

for why this is in america's national security to do this. >> coming up -- >> love having you on board. wake up at 4:00 again. >> that's crazy. that's crazy talk. >> you don't like it? >> it's lovely. i just don't know who would ever want to do that every day. >> absolutely. >> it's a big day for apple. and the fans as tim cook will be rolling out the company's latest line of gadgets. >> is lewis going to be there? i think we have lewis. going to be out there. >> always trying to get free stuff. plus, which company is joining -- is that lewis? wait. there is a huge line. he's in line. we're going to be talking also about what companies are joining target, starbucks and chipotle by asking customers to leave their guns at home.

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we are really obviously the morning paper, you have the news talking about disgrace. asks about commissioner goodell. tons of other stories. mika has been getting a lot of tweets. i tell her not to read during the show, but she does anyway. about your interview with the senator and saying she should name a name. something identify also said,

too. why don't we read one of the tweets? john? >> yeah, we have stephanie. she disagrees with mika. she says i don't think we should name names. it will make it about individuals and excusing them instead of a larger conversation about culture. >> the thing is, it's not about an individual, just an individual, it's about an individual who represents millions of women. in the case of the union that said you're too fat shlgs it's about a union official who represents the need and the policy to impact the women. they need to know who is representing them and you have a guy like that in the united states senate from quite frankly another decade, another century, i think women need to know. the voters need to know. it's not just about one guy. >> and i think there's something about being able to go there with people and get right in their face and say that's wrong what you did. we can't really take the conversation any further if we

hide behind this. having said that, i really enjoyed the conversation with her. and i'm glad she started it. >> can we at least say in this case, it is up to the woman obviousl obviously. >> she's powerful. and she can take the questions that i gave her. >> great to your point, men at that will level feel they can talk to senator kirsten gillibrand that way, how do they talk to people in a lesser than position on capitol hill? how are they treating women? >> that's a great, great point. >> it raises a lot of questions. let's look at more morning papers. usa today. panera bread is joining retailers and starbucks in asking customers to leave their guns at home. >> this is a problem for thomas and i. we usually take our sawed-off shotguns. >> the bakery cafe says he respects the right of gun owners. it seeks to create a safe space

for diners. panera bread offers 2,000 stores in 45 states. >> former new orleans mayor ray nagin will begin serving his ten-year sentence. he led new orleans through hurricane katrina and arrived minutes before monday's noon deadline. nagin was convicted on 20 counts of bribery, fraud and tax evasion charges. >> do you see these pictures out of arizona? >> i didn't. >> the city of phoenix under a state emergency. the national weather service recorded three inches of rain by 7:00 a.m. on monday. freeways and roads were flooded with water and mud. stalling cars and reeking havoc. >> let's turn to bill karins. >> many parts of vegas didn't do much better. pretty epic flooding that took place in the southwest.

remember we talked about hurricane norbert last week. a lot of the moisture got sucked north in arizona. that's why they saw historic floods. these are the pictures from vegas. now let's turn to what's next. now i'm bringing up the four-letter word. i can't believe it. snow is on the way into the lower 48. yes, snow. joe and mika and thomas, look at these pictures. this is yesterday. kal gary picked up a couple of inches of snow. and that's all headed down to montana. it's already 36 in montana this morning. we have winter storm warnings up for the mountainous area. >> bill, you're already unpopular around here. >> it's justin bieber. >> yeah, trying to keep up with the beibs. >> so are we going to get socked on the east coast?

>> yeah t chilly air will be in the midwest. they have some problems. it's warm. it's humid in the midwest. the cold air is coming in. severe weather outbreak and tornadoes for two days. today i'm watching from omaha and cedar rapids. st. louis, chicago, detroit, indianapolis, cleveland and the threat of tornadoes. >> should i jinx us by saying we've had a calm hurricane season so far. >> tomorrow is the peak day of hurricane season. we have nothing out there right now. probably get a named storm towards the end of the week. not an issue. we are like storm free in the middle of the busiest part of the season. if anyone remembers '04 and '05. >> i remember you and i, it seemed like we would talk about another hurricane coming in.

because it's getting hotter with global warming and climate change, this is going to happen. i went out and bought a really expensive generator. it was the best insurance for north america anybody could have gotten. >> wilma was the last category three. it's been a decade. >> in the deep south. >> so overdue. but it's good to have sandy. an atlanta coast tragedy. nothing in the gulf coast. it's crazy. >> bill, thank you. we have one more weather story. the terrifying moments when a man pulled out of the driveway and into the tornado. the weather conditions immediately take a turn for the worse. the man decided to turn around and pull back in the driveway, only to see the garage is completely destroyed.

>> oh my god. >> thankfully, the man survived the ordeal, but his home and his car damaged. >> can you believe that? >> still ahead, how would you handle a client accused of domestic violence? sports agent lee steinberg in a bit. what will apple unveil today? lewis? he has a preview. >> thank god the weather is nice today, because i'm here with the intrepid men and women sleeping overnight out here on fifth avenue at the apple iphone store. these guys are extremely excited to get the apple iphone 6. even if it takes weeks for them to stay out here. >> all that and morning when morning joe returns. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy.

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all right, you know this apple iphone thing is happening. people are going crazy. >> what is that? >> at least the screen doesn't break. okay. lewis is there with people at a

store. >> that's right. i'm sorry. >> lewis! the people in the studio stop talking and then you start talking. can you believe how bad he is, mika? >> i don't want to be on with him. >> reporter: i'm outside the apple store -- please give me another chance here. >> he did it again! >> reporter: i'm outside the apple flagship store. these people have slept here overnight. they're waiting to get the apple iphone 6. these guys have come from all over the country. mississippi, hong kong. this guy is from new york now. full disclosure. these guys are being compensated to sit out here. they're the first four chairs. but they're also big iphone fan ls. >> because of the larger screen. >> larger screen. big selling point.

>> we actually also heard it's a sapphire glass. so it should be basically shatter proof. so that's exciting. >> are you guys willing -- i think at 1:00 we're going to find out when the iphone 6 will be released. if they say the 29th of september, are you guys willing to sit out here for another two weeks. >> not just us. we're representing a charitable medical app. we've done enough interviews to get the word out. >> it also depends on how cold it will get the further the month goes along. >> there are people who set up chairs where there's nobody here overnight. so they're here for the take. which is a nice thing. >> so as we understand the person that's first in line is going to get paid like 1200 bucks to turn that position over to somebody else at the appropriate time. >> yeah. they can sell their seats. a lot of chairs.

nia is not being compensated. she's doing it for the love of the game. she loves the iphone. she also wants the iphone watch that she hopes will be released as well. >> i feel awesome. i want to get the iphone 6 and i-watch as well. >> how long vn you been sleeping out here? >> since yesterday noon. and i'm here till the end. >> the seats are set up and those folks are compensated by apple? >> no, they're being compensated by other companies to promote the companies and be out here. >> we greatly appreciate it. >> it's all around. i'm sorry. >> some people go and sit there, and then they'll sell their seat. the first person in line will sell their seat for $1,200. they sit here until the 29th of

september. that's a long way. >> yeah. >> for a watch. >> i don't think these products will be on the shelves. >> the reports are that stock went down 15%. the moment that bergdorf gots on the the air. >> i don't know about that. but it's a big focal point. apple is huge. it has a big waiting in the overall stock market. here's the bottom line. 10% of the nasdaq is made up of apple. more than 3% of the entire s&p 500. that's not not just from a math consumer standpoint is it not a big deal. also from a stock perspective. apple's stock goes up when it unveils new products. and everybody is saying this is going to be test for tim cook since he took over and has yet to really launch a major new category. somebody ground breaking.

a la, iphone, ipad. that will be a big deal from the management perspective as well. and of course we're going to look a t t the stock market reaction. globally having trouble in china with the food scandal, food safety scandal. 14% is how much sales dropped. they continue to lose relevance with the customers. and another food related item on the agenda, and that's general mills. the serial company announcing it wants to buy annie's, which makes those bunny crackers and organic mac n cheese for $820 million. it speaks to what's happening in today's world. the growth is in organics. the growth is in healthy.

and so general mills really needs that to add and bolster sales. >> do you view organic mac n cheese as being healthy? >> annie's is good. >> are you excited? >> you're apple all the way. >> i'm not getting the watch. it's bigger than a 1972 de soto convertible. >> are you like mark? >> i'm playing both sides of the fence. i will get the iphone 6. those phones are really good. >> up next, grading the nfl's handling of the ray rice situation. our next guest says the league's suspension buzz too late, way too late. >> jerry mcguire. ♪ ♪

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i have to ask you a question because everybody is piling on ray rice. everybody should pile on ray rice. just like every defendant has to have an attorney. today he's in the bunker. you're his agent. you pick up the phone. what would you say to him? >> i would tell him he needs to use his time to try to make a statement about domestic violence. probably an action to go out and make a difference. football players are uniquely situated because of their size, strength and incredible power that this one sport has as premier entertainment to be role models in the issue. this is not just a woman's issue. we all have mothers. t we have sisters. we have daughters. and wives. and men need to take a stance so he can be a terrific role model. >> so lee, let me ask you the

next question. if roger goodell calls you up and you're handling roger goodell. he's your client. he goes, man, this thing got out from under me fast. i totally screwed up. what do you tell commissioner goodell? a guy we all like but who screwed up bad on this. what does he do to get back out and gain the trust of the owners, the fans and the americans? >> the first thing he has to make clear is whether or not he sold the second tape. >> what if he did see the second tape? can his job be save esaved? >> yes. even if he did not see the tape, joe, he heard transparency according to him from ray rice. if he heard ray rice hit his former fiancee in the face and knocked her out, why didn't he act? if that tmz tape doesn't come

out, then the baltimore ravens who have defended ray rice, activating him this friday, and he plays the rest of the season and the nfl does nothing. so he's got to come clean on the facts, and he's also got to be very direct about how the nfl feels about domestic violence. >> we're hoping he comes on here. gene robinson has a question for you. >> lee, there's been a pretty strong reaction from a number of player who is have condemn ed what ray rice did. does that make you optimistic at all? is that a representative view? >> i think it's representative. you can love the sinner and not the sin. so we will see this player probably after a year come back again. we're not going to throw him on the trash heap of history.

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out. >> so that was bill gates on australian professor david christian's big history project and why he wants schools across the country to begin teaching it. it's also the issue titled everything is illuminated. we talk with the article of that article and coanchor of cnbc's "squawk box" who shared more about bill gates' new mission in education. >> tell us how bill gates wants to reshape our kids learn history. >> this was a fascinating story for me. he goes on the treadmill every morning and watches courses on dvd. and a couple years ago he's watching a course by this australian professor who put history together in a different way than we know history. a lot of us took global history. some people took u.s. history. this puts it all together. literally starting with the big bang. it's a history class. but it really mixes signs.

it's electronic. there's no textbook. so it's a website. people can do it on the ipad. they can also print it out. >> so bill gates wasn't just inspired by the course. they're working together now. >> so he watches this dvd, calls up the professor and i want this in every high school in america. they were on their way. they started with seven classrooms three years ago. they're now at 1200. they'll double and not triple that. for the most part this has been voluntary so far. the ones doing it are signing up themselves. the question becomes long term. whether it days places western civ or global history. the other issue is a lot of the class is video. you see a video, and they teach.

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the kicker from the carolina panthers went on the the field to try to worm up at halftime. unfortunately a marching band was still out there performing. i don't know if he handled it that well. >> the kicker from the panthers trying to stay loose while the band was performing during the half. you know the kicker was just excited to be tough for once. out of way, even nerdier nerd. get out of here! give me your lunch money! >> time to talk about what we learned today. i mean, i learned don't ever send lewis out to the field. >> definitely not. >> this guy right now is standing can kernel sanders.

>> he's out here handing out free kentucky fried chicken to all of these guys. i want to thank these guys. contrary to your experience. >> stop. >> what did we learn today? >> i learn i wish more people in the nfl had the instantaneous gut and reaction you had to both videos in the moment. >> i think a lot of people did. and a man who declared to us. thomas just said i don't think so. >> i don't think it's working. >> yeah. i shared that with the blasz. i'm a little embarrassed. >> we still love you. >> this is a big moment for roger goodell. his reputation, legacy and career are on the line. i hope he comes out and does the right thing. >> the arrogance of the nfl is

stunning. the ignorance of the new jersey county prosecutor who walked ray rice is incredible. >> that prosecutor should lose his job. >> it's way too early morning joe. right now it's time for peter alexander and "the daily rundown." new developments this morning in the ray rice assault and suspension. the nfl says the league did not have access to that shocking tape from inside the atlantic city elevator as questions rise over the intensity of its own investigation. meantime, president obama tries to secure congressional support for the next steps in stopping isis. are international allies ready to line up with the u.s. to help make that happen? . plus, scott brown's bid in new hampshire. and also on the ballot for the last primary day of 2014.