pentagon, outside shanksville, pennsylvania, and just a few miles from here in lower manhattan. where for the first time, the national 9/11 memorial and museum built on ground zero is now fully open to the public. today, thousands stood silently as family members read the names of the 2,983 loved ones who died 13 years ago today. >> james patrick white, and my uncle emilio p. ortiz jr. i love you and i miss you. >> at the pentagon today, president obama laid a wreath for the lives lost there. and then praised the nation for refusing to give into fear. >> these have been difficult years, but by your presence here today in the lives, the service that you have led, you embody the truth that no matter what comes our way, america will always come out stronger.

>> live from lower manhattan. and give us a sense of the mood there. it is 13 years on, but as we saw from that clip a family member reading names of their loved one, there's raw emotion for the survivors of the 9/11 attacks. >> without a doubt, joy. this is an emotional day. and each day we come up on 9/11 remembering what happened, it is still charged we motion. there are heart wrenching images. one of the things, i want to share numbers with you. and that is this. of about 3,000 children who lost their parents on 9/11, some 300 of those children were in kindergarten. think about the span of time, more than 100 of those children are entering college. the good news here is that 100 of those children will have their schools totally paid for with full scholarships by something called the friends of freedom scholarship fund. it is now a $100 million fund to help those children, victims,

children who lost their loved one on that day. more than just -- one week after the attack, the scholarship fund was brought together, and more than 20,000 people donated. it was pointed out that even back then, people were thinking about these children. when they were in kindergarten, and recognizing their needs would grow over time and they wanted to make certain that one of the things these children would not have to worry about is if they chose to go to college, they wouldn't have to worry about how it would be paid for. it's a powerful notion of generosity of people back then and even now. and it's reflected in the fact these children will not have that to worry about as they remember the loved ones they lost on this day 13 years ago. >> thank you so much for that powerful positive story. former new jersey governor tim kaine is the former chairman of the 9/11 commission. and i really appreciate you joining me today, sir. this is an anniversary that's

taking place at a time when the president of the united states as we saw in the clips we played earlier is focusing the nation's attention on isis, on a terrorist organization that has killed two americans in ghoulish fashion. and now there is this sense that they are being sort of replaced, they are sort of replacing al qaeda as a terror threat that americans worry about attacking here. how real in your judgment is the threat of isis here? >> at the moment, not very real. i don't think isis has the capability to attack the homeland right now. al qaeda does. but no, i don't think so. but in the future, a year or two now -- from now, if we don't do something about them, they will have the capabilities. >> so you were one of the co-chairs of the 9/11 commission and one of the things that came out of your work was a set of recommendations of what the country needed to do to safeguard itself so we wouldn't be surprised a second time by a 9/11-style attack. number one, has the country done

substantially what your commission thought we ought to do? >> it's done most of the recommendations, not all of them. a couple very important ones we haven't touched yet. but most of them have been done. interestingly enough, one of our recommendations was, first of all, if iraq becomes a fail state, it becomes a terrible problem for the world. and secondly, never again must we give any terrorist group a chance to plot and plan unsafe territory. now, al qaeda had safe territory in afghanistan, isis might have safe territory in iraq. that's one of the reasons it's so important not to allow them to have the two or three years to plan, which it took to plan 9/11. >> i'll let you listen to the president last night in the speech he gave in prime time last night. this is him talking about his assessment of what the threat of isis is right now. >> well, we have not yet detected specific plotting against our homeland, isil leaders have threatened america

and our allies. >> and of course, your report with lee hamilton said something similar, which is essentially, they are spinoffs of al qaeda and primarily focused right now on regional conflicts. how do we get from a to b? how do we ensure that the safe havens don't turn into bases of operations to do something similar to what was done in 9/11? >> it took three years to plan 9/11, train people and everything else. we cannot give them the time or the space to do that. so we've got to disrupt and the president's right, we've got to disrupt what they're doing. we've got to destroy what they're doing, we've got to make sure that nobody can plan the kind of destruction that was visited on so many of us in 9/11. >> and even internally, americans are very uncomfortable with things like the data retrieval programs that you had with the nsa and the government explanation for that is, well, if somebody is in london, berlin, a part of, affiliated with, sympathetic to a group like isis and they're calling here to the united states, we want to be able to detect it. can we draw down substantially

that kind of capability? our intelligence capability and data sifting capability and still be safe from a threat like al qaeda? >> because we're in a whole new era with computers and technology and all that, we've got to use the same kind of technology that the terrorists are using to try to get at us to stop them. so, yeah, a lot of this big data has got to be used in a way that american people understand. >> right. >> the congress approves, that we all buy into. and that was the problem. they didn't tell us. they snuck up on us and found out what we're doing afterwards. >> you mentioned congress. shouldn't congress have more of a role in this? they do feel like they are a secondary background player in something where they should be right out front. >> they've got to be out front. they're our representative no matter what we think of. they're our representatives and they've got to be out front. and i'll tell you, reform of congress is the most obvious unmet recommendation that we made. congress has not reformed itself, congress does not give the proper oversight to the

intelligence agencies, homeland security reports to 94 different committees, can you imagine having -- that's no oversight at all. so congress has got to get out front. but they've got to reform themselves. >> so far they haven't done much else. reform might be difficult. what is the most important unmet recommendation that was recommended by your commission that should be done that has not been done yet? >> congress. i mean, that's the most important. because we can't tell what intelligence is doing because it's secret. >> right. >> so congress is the only one that has any oversight. so if intelligence is not doing the right thing, congress is the one who has got to bring them up to task. >> yeah. >> if congressional has dysfunctional oversight. and a word used by congressman toomey, then we're not going to do it. they don't have proper commission, committees on the budget control of the intelligence areas. >> right. >> they have these 94 different committees. what makes the whole thing terrible. it's just -- it's a lack of

responsibility by the united states congress right now and makes us left safe. >> and feels like they're so mired in politics, they aren't focusing on the things you're talking about. you wrote an interesting op-ed, if isis is not the primary threat to the united states right now in terms of terrorism, you write that cyber terrorism is something that should be more perceive le prevalent in our minds, explain. >> i took to every lead intelligence officer in the obama administration and people who just left. they all brought up cyber as the thing. they said they were not prepared, congress hasn't passed the bill, the administration hasn't gotten it coordinated. meanwhile, people are stealing our secrets, military and civilian secrets, going to cost us jobs in the future because our technology's getting a i way. and one of the intelligence officers told me it's the largest transfer of knowledge in world history is going on right now being stolen quietly from us

and going to people who don't wish us any good will. >> another thing to put on congress' long to do list which is getting longer. governor tom kaine, former cochair of the 9/11 commission. thank you very much. appreciate you being here. >> thank you for having me. >> and next, will congress, who we just mentioned, get behind the president's plan? will they hold a vote or do anything at all? and what about the concern about giving the president more authorization to wage war could open up more trouble down the road. senator ben carden joins us. and the handling of the ray rice case. now they've recruited the former chief to launch an independent investigation. when folks think t what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work.

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welcome back. now, the big political question after president obama's speech on confronting isis is this. will congress buy in to quote

press secretary. secretary john kerry, after all, is traveling in the middle east trying to build support and his next stop is turkey where members of the u.s. military will train syrian rebels to fight isis. of course, that's if congress okays the funding. now, as you may expect, democratic leaders today seem to be onboard with the president's plan. what about the republicans? many of whom received a secret intel briefing today. how are they reacting? >> a lot of our members don't feel like the campaign that was outlined last night will accomplish the mission that the president says. >> i'm confident that the steps the president laid out last night can degrade isis, but that's not sufficient to protect our people. >> senator ben carden of maryland is a member of the senate foreign relations committee. thank you so much for being here. we just had on governor tom

kaine, a co-chair of the 9/11 commission. and he said the single most important thing we can do to prevent another 9/11-style attack on the united states is for congress to get its act together, reform itself, and start exercising proper oversight, including over the intelligence agencies. would you agree with that? >> well, joy, i do think it's important for congress to speak on this. i would hope that the congress and administration and would be together on foreign policy. we need to lead international action against this barbaric terrorist group known as isis or isil. i think what congress will do in our oversight capacity is to make sure that whatever we do, it will not be used for a long-term engagement of the u.s. military and will not use u.s. military where the country in which these terrorists are located should be using their own military. >> that's a very interesting question. i want to play you what president obama said last night about whether or not he needs

congress' authority. and then, i want to get into this question of whether or not anything he did could be extended. let's listen to president obama. >> i have the authority to address the threat from isil. but i believe we are strongest as a nation when the president and congress work together. so i welcome congressional support for this effort in order to show the world that americans are united in confronting this danger. >> senator, he wasn't saying that he needed the authority from congress. and now, i want to play you what josh earnest, the press secretary said today about why they believe they don't need explicit authority. >> the president is confident he has the authority he needs to order military action along the lines of the broadened systematic air strikes that he described yesterday. >> he wants repealed. >> under an aumf he believes continues to apply to this terrorist organization that is

operating in iraq and syria. >> so, senator, the aumf he's referring to is the authorization to use military force passed in 2000 after the 9/11 attacks. the initial 9/11 attacks in 2001. if the president can still operate under that authority, what's to stop any president from continuing to use that aumf basically in perpetuity? >> well, i think you're going to find many members of congress who believe that the war powers act, which was passed by congress requires the president to seek additional authorization from congress that this is going to be a long-term campaign. so i think we may have some different views on that. quite frankly, i want to work with this administration, but i want to make it clear that we're not going to give authorization for long-term campaign. so we'll see what authority the president seeks and we will also see how he's using current authority because there may be some interest in congress to get involved. >> senator, just to go back a little bit, the authorization to

use military force, the aumf, the president himself said should probably be repealed. that was the last time that congress actually took an explicit vote on the use of force in the so-called quote, unquote, war on terror. that is still in operation. the president himself said it probably should be repealed, it's still there. and this administration is using that operation, which was to go after -- that authorization to go after al qaeda in afghanistan. that's being used for -- essentially okay air strikes in syria, which wasn't in the original authorization. so if the president can do that, shouldn't the congress explicitly have to pass something new to essentially check the authority of this and any other president? >> well, i think you raise two very important points for congress to take up. first, in 2001, it was never anticipated that the authorization that was given would be still in use, particularly with a new threat that has developed in regards to isil. and number two, whatever congress does take up, it's got to be very careful and very

surgical to make sure it's not used to expand u.s. operations or to take on military responsibilities in a country that should be doing it itself. so, i think your point is very well taken. and that's why i think congress will need to get engaged. whether we'll need to pass legislation if the president's intending to use a 2001 authorization for force, then i expect the congress should get involved and should take a look at this. >> well, do you think your colleagues will? >> do you think the senate, for instance, will take a vote in which they will explicitly state what they believe the president should be authorized to do in syria. will that happen? >> i think we've got to take a look at all the factors here, part of it's the use of the military air strikes. part of it is to train and equip the iraqi soldiers. part of it is actions in syria. all that has a different role for congress to play. but as far as the basic authorization, to me, the war powers is pretty clear, and the president continues to have a long-term engagement, he should

seek clarification for congress. >> and what would you say to people, sir, who say that congress and not you specifically, but the members of congress broadly in the house and in the senate would rather not be on the record on this. they'd rather let the president do this on his own so he would take the blame, they could criticism if they're the republicans from the sidelines, democrats could take credit with him from the sidelines. but because it's an election year, the congress doesn't even want to be on the record even though they should. >> one of the most important responsibilities that i have as a senator is to deal with the issues of putting our soldiers in harm's way. we have an absolute responsibility to take up action when it involves the deployment of our troops. and as the president said, united states is much more effective in its foreign policy when the administration and congress work together. so quite frankly, joy, this is an easy one. if we got -- if we need to be involved, we have to take action and we can't let the politics of

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pittsburgh steelers tonight in baltimore. but as both teams take to the field tonight, the stakes are even higher for the league's embattled commissioner roger goodell. as of today, robert muller is heading up an independent investigation into the league's pursuit and handling of evidence in the ray rice domestic violence case. muller's appointment was announced by the nfl late last night. along with the news that goodell has tapped new york giants owner john mara and art rooney to oversee the investigation. the scramble to outsource the internal probe came hours after a potentially damning associated press report citing an unnamed law enforcement force who tells the a.p. a dvd showing ray rice's infamous knockout punch inside the elevator was sent to the nfl's headquarters here in manhattan five months ago. the report states, quote, the person played the a.p. a 12-second voice mail from an nfl office number on april 9 confirming the video arrived.

a female voice expresses thanks and says, you're right, it's terrible. in response to the a.p. report, the nfl issued a statement saying it has no knowledge of the video being sent to the offices. and last night, goodell sent a memo to the league's 32 teams saying the league asked law enforcement for the video but did not ask the casino. meanwhile, raven's owner said he never imagined the graphic and one-sided nature of the attack and regrets not doing more to obtain the tape that revealed it. >> i was picturing her wailing on him and him smacking her and maybe her head was this far from the wall and with her inebriation dropped. >> newer questions is how will this investigation proceed? how impartial is it? and can roger goodell keep his job? a sports lawyer and commentator and jim cavanaugh is a retired

special agent in charge. and i want to start with you, alan. why is it important? why would the league want to export this investigation to an outside entity. >> well, i think the simple answer to that is because they handled it so poorly beforehand. i mean, the hypocrisy of the nfl never ceases to amaze. you know, they're shocked, shocked to find out that the player actually punched this woman who was -- who they absolutely knew was unconscious outside the elevator. >> yeah, it's pretty surprising to hear the owner of the team say, oh, i just thought maybe he smacked her and she hit her head. that was actually just as shocking. >> would that have been that much better? >> exactly. jim, i want to ask you to walk us through how an investigation like this would play out. >> it's going to be very much a

white collar type of investigation with interviews where you would begin with the atlantic city police and the new jersey state police who run law enforcement in the casinos in new jersey, the gaming commission, as well. and you start there because they were the ones, you know, who first obtained the video. of course, you talked to a casino security, as well. that's where it would start. it's going to roll pretty quickly. they'll know who it was given to, who the video was given to. likely nfl security. and nfl security, if that's verified they had the video, then, you know, the question to them is who saw it, did you see it? who saw it? and who did you give it to? it really adds up to leadership failure in not getting the top executives, the commissioner and the top executives together when they get this evidence looking at it clearly making their cogent, reasonable decision on what the punishment would be, and certainly not two games. but maybe the whole season, maybe a life suspension. but, you know, they should have made a stronger, better decision at the beginning. so it's going to probably point out some leadership failures.

>> yeah, and let's talk a little bit about mr. muller, the former fbi agent that is now in charge of the investigation. he used to be a partner in a law firm called wilmer hale. the firm also represented the washington football team and the owner and several former members of the firm have taken positions with the team. is there a potential conflict of interest problem there? >> i think he can handle it independently, and i think the nfl wants him to issue a stronger report as he possibly can. just so they can move beyond this. >> and, jim, you know, there's been a lot of calls, you know, even before this independent investigation happens for roger goodell to go. he's got to go. boston herald's website, the boston globe's website, it's more obvious than ever that he needs to go but he probably won won't. holding him to the standard he

sets for the saints. no matter what the result of an investigation like this are, jim, is it possible for roger goodell to weather through an investigation and survive? >> well, he's going to be a very weakened leader, joy. he already is because the way this was handled. you know, the leader of the organization is the one that has to set the tone. i mean, if he wasn't shown the video or completely briefed on it, then that's a failure to set up the organization appropriately so these things don't happen. director mueller, i knew him in the fbi, net with him many times, i think he's a man of great character, and i think he'll conduct the investigation with integrity. i don't think he will slice or cut it any way to favor. he will conduct it appropriately. but, remember, this is just going to be the administrative investigation. it's not a criminal investigation by authority figures, by the state or federal government. so once the report is done, it goes to the commissioner of the board and they're going to make the decisions. if they decide the commissioner stays and, you know, there's a lot of window dressing, that's

maybe what we get. >> but it is happening at a time when congress is also out there saying they want to actually see potentially more oversight of the nfl. alan, i want to ask you because you have familiarity of dealing with these sports leagues. you have a culture problem that goes beyond the nfl. you've already had the san francisco 49ers have to take their play-by-play radio announcer off the air for essentially implying that janay rice was partially to blame for the abuse. you have nba player paul george apologizing, but before he apologized tweeting out a series of tweets essentially saying if you're in a relationship and a woman hits you first and attacks you, you obviously aren't beating her. and trying to clean it up, and ending it with a tweet that had the words "lol" in it, i'm not sure what was funny about it. is there a broader issue in the leagues in general? or if you don't have people who think this stuff is a big deal

that you really can't internally investigate it? >> well, obviously in the nfl, being macho and a tough guy and being able to withstand any kind of adversity is what is treasured by these teams. and, of course, that has a downside when these players are off the field and trying to live their lives. >> and, jim, last question to you. is it possible that even after an internal investigation, even after the nfl feels it's wrapped it up that there could be some additional legal problems facing ray rice? we've now seeing he's no longer drinking, attempting to clean things up about himself personally. could he face additional, potential legal problems? >> well, probably not. because the district attorney has, you know, already made their decision. so i'd say that's pretty unlikely. but joy, you made the comment earlier that congress may investigate. and that could change the dynamics because congress can issue subpoenas, you know, they're a legal body in and of

themselves. people can obstruct the congress, interfere with the congress. there's a lot of things that could come to play if congress gets actively involved in an investigation. as far as ray rice, this is probably his career is maybe completely damaged. the nfl's trying to do, you know, damage control. we'll see how well that works. but everybody would have been better served if the commissioner and the executives had taken strong punishment in the beginning at a minimum, a year, full-year suspension, maybe more years. probably would've helped the victim, ray rice, his wife, the league, the executives, it would have helped everybody. it's a leadership failure in the beginning. take it strong, look at the evidence, don't run from it. that's what the leaders have to do. >> thanks to both of you. >> my pleasure. >> all right. 13 years after 9/11. the long-term health effects still on the minds of thousands of first responders who rushed into action that day. coming up, one first

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of excellence treats and does health screenings on people who worked at ground zero after the attacks. >> it's critical for congress to re-authorize the act. and the reason it's so important for us is that we need -- our patients need to know that there's a stable place they can go to get comprehensive treatment for the world trade center-related health problems. >> dr. moline says federal funding for places like hers is essential. >> for many of our responders, this is a safe haven for them. this is a place they can go and talk about problems, talk about conditions, talk about the exposures to people who understand, who have treated thousands of other patients who have had similar conditions. and most importantly, know what to look for. >> evi was working as a special agent for the secret service on

september 10th and instantly became a 9/11 first responder. she's also a participant in the world trade center health program and let us come along with her for her yearly screening. thank you very much for being here and letting us tag along with you. let's go back to 9/11. you were working as a special agent. tell me about how much time you wound up spending day-to-day at ground zero. >> my situation was a little bit unique because our offices at that time were in 7 world trade. we were ordered to evacuate but because we were law enforcement, many of us stayed behind to help evacuate others. at the time, nobody understood. you had no concept a tower was going to come down. as a result, we were caught up, several of my colleagues of mine were caught up in the collapse of the towers. and subsequent to that, some of us, not everybody, but some of us volunteered to do search and rescue. and so you worked 12-hour shifts for a number of weeks. i volunteered for about 2 or 3, and they asked you to stop after

2 to 3 weeks due to the exposure. >> and the clouds of dust, you know, when the towers came down, included asbestos, there was glass shards in it, cement. people were breathing that in. >> yes, so if you were there for the collapse and you were, especially if you were outside, which i was and my colleagues were, you inhaled all that stuff. but it was amazing because it became so fine and thin, thin dust. but i remember inhaling it and it was just this complete burning sensation of the eyes, inside your mouth. i mean, and you had like red scarring lacerations inside and your eyes, it took time for you to kind of heal from that. >> and talk about now these annual exams. it is part of the act, how does it work? >> all right. so this is what they've done. so many people are getting sick, and it's happening years and years later. they decided to give funding where if you were a first responder or a survivor, you go in for an annual physical exam. but it's an annual physical exam on crack. that's how they define it. and so they assess you, ask your

exposure, your previous medical history. and then, they give you tests, they do a -- test. some type of illness whether it's a mental health disorder or some type of physical disorder, cancer, they've had a lot of cancer. 30,000 illnesses or injuries associated with 9/11. if they feel you have something, then they put you in a proper treatment program and they pay for it. but you go every year. >> and you have basically a card? essentially it's like an insurance card? >> right. i was actually mailed an insurance card. and that's what it works as. so any time you have, again, your illness has to be associated to september 11th. they have to say, yes, there's a correlation there. but they cover it. let's say somebody gets cancer. the idea is this, how are you going to pay to give yourself chemo, whatever therapy you need for the rest of your life? that's what this act does, gives

that money to take care of all of these people. >> the idea of not renewing that. seems unimaginable. but it was so political. even getting it passed. let's go through who basically is eligible for this program. it's police and fire, it's emergency health workers, it's recovery workers and contractors. cleanup volunteers, but also survivors. there are some 9/11 survivors getting the benefit, too. >> yes, of course. if you were there on that day and inhaled everything and it was actually the worst. the doctors told, they explained that if you were there on that day, that made it significantly more worse. and then the people, also, that worked at the landfill, also, those people are part of it because they sifted through the rubble and debris, unfortunately, looking for the remains of individuals. >> yeah. and you talked about some of the things that people have, you know, suffered from. we were looking at a little bit of your exam that you were kind enough to let us go along with you. people are suffering digestive diseases, skin cancers, anxiety, depression, prostate cancer. how important is it they include

mental health in the covered ailments? >> a lot of people suffer from mental health. what they're having a difficult time with, a lot of people aren't going to get checked out. >> why wouldn't they go? >> so the individuals that don't go tend to be people that don't go to the doctor anyway. >> right. >> they tend to be male. and also tend to be the individuals that work in law enforcement, fire department and construction. and their concern is this. if i go and they find something wrong with me and my employer finds out, i'm going to be out of a job. >> there's privacy protection, right? >> there is privacy, and that's one of the things they ask for us to express to tell everybody. it's confidential, they don't share information. and that's why it comes to mental health disorder, especially if you're law enforcement who wants to be associated with that? but what's sad, they've had up until this point, 70 firefighters have died as a result of illness due to 9/11 and they've actually had 60 police officers, nypd that have passed, as well, due to their illnesses. >> yeah, so this is very important. we're going to keep our eyes on

this. this has to be renewed. i can't imagine it not being renewed. you're very kind to let us tag along with you for your exam. and it's always good to see you and glad you are in good health. great to see you. >> yes, thank you. >> and if you'd like more information about the world trade center health program, go to our website at msnbc.com. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world.

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is isis a threat worth going to war over? would launching a ground invasion of syria or re-invading iraq stop an isis terrorist from using his u.s. passport and coming here to perpetrate an attack? good questions for senator john mccain whose face-off with jay carney on cable tv yesterday was described by the "daily beast" as the television equivalent of a mugging in a dark alley. mccain and other neo cons would prefer we leave a substantial cache of american troops in iraq

like we did after world war ii and korea. perhaps forgetting that the iraqi government asked us to go. remember that whole bush ducks a shoe incident? that was w. announcing we signed an agreement with the iraqi government to pull all of our troops out by 2012. or, perhaps he's forgetting that in korea the war isn't technically over, there's just an armistice. or our military presence in europe might be a factor in european government's seeming lack of motivation to fend for themselves militarily against russia. or that our invasion of iraq is why there's an isis in the first place. president obama's speech last night seemed to indicate he still sides with those who believe that the united states cannot be the permanent guarantor of peace and security in every region and every country around the world. a position once also held by rand paul. snatching osama bin laden without telling pakistan, air strikes and special ops to degrade isis and bumping off the head of al shabab? yes. imposing order on the arab world forever as the neo cons seem to

want to do? no. >> we cannot do for iraqis what they must do for themselves. >> see, the trouble with neo conservatism, it's like a roo rubik's cube. the only way the boxes line back up is if you keep manipulating them. and the united states has a terrible track record of manipulating the middle east. right now, the two strong esmil tears in the region are nonarab, israel and shiite iran. that's why president obama has emphasized bucking up the army we built in mixed sunni/shiite iraq while asking arab countries like jordan, yemen, egypt and saudi arabia to step up and take the lead in their own security, which isis is threatening even more than it threatens us.

you've got to believe isis would love to drag columns of american troops back to iraq so they could practice their serial killing on our soldiers and marines. but according to the president last night, we're not going to oblige, at least not at the moment. hello, congress? anything? no? the point is, at some point, woo we've got to stop infantlizing the world, or we'll be helicopter parenting them for life and the american people are done doing that. sorry, neo cons. and that wraps things up for the "reid report," i'll see you tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern and be sure to visit us online. "the cycle" is up next, hey, how y'all doing on this thursday? >> joy, what you got against helicopter parenting? >> just saying, who has time for that? what do you have coming up? >> you're calling on congress. we have two folks coming in from congress. jerry connolly from virginia and joe manchin to give their response to the president's big speech last night on isis. it's a very somber day

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terrorist threat. our objective is clear, we will degrade and ultimately destroy isil through a comprehensive and sustained counterterrorism strategy. we will conduct a systematic campaign of air strikes against these terrorists. we'll increase our support to forces fighting these terrorists on the ground. we will continue to draw on our substantial counterterrorism capabilities to prevent isil attacks. we'll continue to provide humanitarian assistance to innocent civilians displaced by this terrorist organization. this is our strategy, and in each of these four parts of our strategy, america will be joined by a broad coalition of partners. american leadership at its best. american leadership is the one constant in an uncertain world. it is america that has the capacity and will to mobilize the world against terrorists. isil is a terrorist organization pure and simple. if you threaten america, you will find no safe haven.