we want it out there. you have to think: why would they want it out there? >> that is "all in" for this evening. the rachel maddow starts right now. >> thavngs at home for staying with us. we've got a big show tonight. lots of ground to cover including the president's call for expanded military action against isis including inside syria. this is a big moment for the president and the country, we've got that story ahead tonight including a special guest for the interview on that subject, somebody you haven't heard from on this subject who you really ought to hear from on this subt: >> a week and a half ago, a professional football player

named ray mcdonald was arrested in san jose, california. they arrested him on suspicion of battering his pregnant fiance. she was bruised on her neck and arms. he has not been charged. he was arrested on monday. ray mcdonald had three tackles and a really good game against the cowboys in the 49ers season opener game in dallas this past weekend. ray mechanic donald played an nfl game this weekend while out on bail for allegedly baterring his pregnant fiance.

and he has been practicing as normal. six weeks before that, another player named greg hardy, a pro-bowl defensive end for the carolina panthers. on june 14th, greg hardy was convicted of beating his girlfriend and threatening to kill her. the court heard testimony about how he threw the woman into the bathtub. he threw her onto a bed which had guns on it, ripped a necklace off of her neck. he slammed a toilet lid on her arm. akoording to testimony, he dragged her by her hair from room to room. he looked me in the eyes and told me he was going to kill me. i was so scared, i wanted to

die. when he loosened his grip slightly, i said just do it. kill me. greg hardy was convicted on july 14th. but this weekend, he had a pretty good game. convicted in july. but this past sunday, he played in the carolina panthers against the tap pay bay buccaneers. he played well. forced a fumble and sacked the quarterback once. he's on good track to start again this weekend in which greg hardy did have an excused absence where the team gave him the day off so he could meet with his lawyer. greg hardy is appealing his conviction on those charnls. in the meantime, having been convicted of those charges, he's practicing with the team and playing an nfl game as normal.

however, there are signs now, there are more and more signs each day now that what counts as normal in the national football league may be changing. this is the press conference that the coach of the carolina panthers did this week. and it's the first ten questions in the press conference are anything to go by, what the football wants to talk about all of the sudden is domestic violence by nfl employees. greg had a personal day today. >> did you say that the tight end has been disciplined? >> nope. because it's not. >> that's something you have to

discuss with him and his people. okay? he had a personal day and that's it. >> did he practice for sunday? >> we'll see tomorrow, just like any other player, we'll see how he participates in practice. >> any comment, coach, about leaping in the spotlight? >> i have no comment on that. the league's made its statement and we're going to go from there. >> if he prark tctices the way want him to, he will play on sunday? >> no doubt. >> this is a personal day thchlt . this is a personal day.

>> we're going through 2 process. why we're in the process, we're not going to comment about the situation. >> just like any other player going through the process. just yesterday aver noon, the head coach, struggling, apparently threw a press conference in which he was not being asked about playing sports in which he had no explanation for why his team, the panthers, has yet to discipline their player, greg hardy, for his conviction on domestic violence charges back in july. so that happens yesterday afternoon. and then, last night, the owner of the team had to make a public apeernsz at an awards dinner in charlotte, north carolina. and a very remarkable thing happened. the owner knew he had to say something about the domestic violence issue. not just because of what's been going on in the league, but what's been going on specifically on his own team. where on his own team, they are currently playing a guy who's

just been convicted of really horrible domestic abuse. there's been no consequences for him on the league at all. his own coach couldn't handle question after question after question on it this week. so jerry richard son, the owner of a team, prepared remarks just a couple of hours after that conference. they were playing remarks that were so heartfelt in trying to talk about it, he really broke down. watch this. >> standing before you tonight, i would be remiss if i do not acknowledge you in weighing heavily on our sport society.

>> when it comes to domestic violence my stance is firmly against domestic violence. plain and simple. to those who have been too slow to act, i ask that you consider not to be too quick to judge. over the course of our 20 years, we have worked extremely hard to build an organization, sbeg ri the integrity and learn to trust

your community. i work hard to continue to earn the trust. and i thank you for this award. thank you. >> that was owner of the carolina panthers football team really, really struggling last night over domestic violence. over something that is not tolerated by the national football league. greg hardy is the employee who is most recently convicted on domestic violence charges. he plays for that owner on the carolina panthers. and that team has taken no action against him since his conviction. after taking that day off yesterday from pack tis to meet his lawyers about his domestic violence position, hardy was back at practice today. and, despite all of that emotion from the team owner last night,

greg hardy, we're told, is due to play in the team's second game of the season this weekend. as is ray mcdonald. the reason, of course, there is this new, incredible level of emotion in this new pressure and all of this attention around this problem is because of ray rice who, this week, was fired from the baltimore raichs. it doesn't look like he's going to have a future in football at all because of his domestic violence against his fiance. the way this huge, multi-billion dollar industry dealt with ray rice and deals with the problem in general that is not over.

what's happening to the league is a story that's going faster and not stopping. the league looks like it may have covered up the ray rice case to a certain degree before it finally burst open in public view and they've changed course and decided to suspend him in week. in february, after ray rice was arrested and charged, the first video emerged just a couple of days after which he beat his fiance. the video shows the aftermath. this is a still from it. that video been out there since february. and the police report is the reason. ray rice rendered her

unconscious with his hands. in other evidence reviewed by a grand jury in new jersey, ray rice was charged with a third degree felony, an offense in which he could have zefed five year ins prison. all of that happened, all of that was in the public domain already when the nfl decided in july that the appropriate punishment for mr. rice was that he would be suspended for two games. just so you know, the second game of the baltimore raven's season is tonight. so ray rice will be playing again tomorrow with the team had the original nfl punishment been all that happened. of course,three days ago, tmz sports, they released a second video that showed just not the aftermath.

it showed hue eed how he knock out. that video was too much. they stepped it up and decided to suspend him from the league indefinitely. had the league already seen that video? seen the video of ray rice punching her when they made the decision to just give him the two-game slap on the wrist? did the league and the team only decide to fire him and make a much bigger deal of this when the public saw that tape, even though the league itself had previously seen it and decided it was apparently no big deal. that's the question now. that is the absolutely unresolved question. when tmz post reported showing the second video, they reported that employees had told them

that nfl personnel had seen that tape already. the nfl absolutely denied that. then, last night, the associated press dropped another bomb shell. they reported that a law enforcement source said that he had seen the second "day planner." a law enforcement told the associated press that he had sent that video to nfl head quarters. he felt the nfl should see that video tape from what happened in the elevator. the tape of ray rice knocking his fiance unconscious with a punch to her head. he thought that the leek should see that before they made a decision on ray rice's punishment. so without authorization, he sent it to nfl headquarters. that source then played a 12 second long vice mail time stamped back in april.

a voice mail that says you're right. it easterble. we have no knowledge of this. we're not aware of anyone who saw the video before it was made public on monday. and then, late tonight, cbs released a report -- >> the latest ffgs that the league had been sent the tape inside the video back in april. if that's the case, negligence because the commissioner report that is he didn't see it.

>> i believe roger when he says he never saw it. i believe somebody was negligent when he says he didn't get it to roger. >> somebody that you never heard of. in the wake of all of this, the nfl has now gone further in what they say they're going to do. they've hired the f.b.i. to lead an inquiry to how it held itself. the video that the nfl now justifies him being kicked out of the league and fired from the ravens. but before, it did not have that

effect. the nfl for obvious reasons, not football as a contest, but rather football as an industry that has players who are beating up women. and the question of whether the league is covering it up to protect itself. with greg hardy practicing today and set to play on sunday, the league is not putting the story behind it until they believe what happens.

this story is not going to end until people are satisfied that we know what happens here. the league appears to recognize this by announcing that a former f.b.i. investigator is leading what happened. remarkenb remarkenblely, a sign of just how isolated they are. they also assigned two nfl team owners. in fact, two of the nfl strongest supporters among the team openers, to oversee and investigate what they did wrong. investigating yourself is always a little suspect. but apointing two of your strongest allies to oversee an independent investigation? that's the kind of are you kidding me, clueless, did you

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if the allegation is true that it got to the league office, then smsh was negligent in not getting that to roger. >> the baltimore raven's coach answer tonight about domestic violence in the league including by ravens running back ray rice. thanks very much for being here. appreciate your time tonight. >> tonight, we have the owner of the ravens disputing this report from the a.p. that the league was sent this explosive tape of ray rice. what still needs to be proven? >> well, i think what we know about the league's behavior just from its track record is that they do steam seem to have an

arrogance about them if they believe they cannot look at issues straight on. i do believe somebody in the nfl did know or did see in this tape. and imthink they're trying to cover it up. >> the nfl says it has apointed an independent investigator, former head of the f.b.i., to look into what the nfl knew about this and when. i got to the part where this investigation is going to be overseen by two lawyers from the nfl. what do you think that mean sns. >> not surprising at all. and i think, also, goes back to that arrogance of the nfl. in addition to the two owners,

the investigator has tied to the nfl. and i think what you have here with the nfl is what you have with a lot of powerful organizations, you have people who have either a tremendous amount of power, tremendous amount of income or tremendous amount of influence. and they have operated in a way which whatever they want. right now tnfl is under a white hot spot light and more people are looking over their shoulder than ever have before. now, what happens will be very interesting. as you poichbted out with the cases of mcdonald and hardy thrks is far from a ray rice issue. >> do you think that they're going to keep practicing and

playing with their teams? as normal? is that tenable? or is that going to be revisited? >> one would hope it's going to be revisited, but the normal looks a lot like the standard operating procedure. i would not be surprised if they keep playing until they're convicted of something. >> thanks for helping us understand these predicaments. i. i love football. it's a big part of my recreational behavior for 16 weeks, plus out of the year every year. i can't do it.

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president obama is not that guy. today, there is a must-pass bill. if we don't pass it, there will be a government shutdown. they were due to move that today in the house. but that really big, really important vote in the house today was held by the personal request of the president. president obama personally picking up the phone and asking him one to one, man-to-man, to do him a favor of holding that bill so congress could consider some of his proposal on isis. president obama was on the line with a request.

that wednesday evening, house republican leaders had agreed to pull back the funding bill and consider obama's request. so they were all set to vote. the president called, initially the congress told the president no, no, it's too late. we can't pull it back now. but then they scrambled. his staff figured out a way to do it anyway because the president asked personally. this is great tape. you can hear how it pays off here. you never, ever hear republican congressman talk about the president in any way that doesn't involve some insult, right? that's not some brick in the middle of it. except, apparently, when the president has just called that member of congress and talked to him at length about what's on the president's mind. then things go differently.

>> so let me get this straight. the republican congressman says he thinks the president made a good speech, has the right strategy and congress should move forward on imp lelementings decision? maybe this is just about war so all bets are off? maybe it's because the president is personally talking to members of congress on this.

that has not been this president's style in the past. but really, since isis, he's working it. it's interesting because the president isn't asking very much for congress. he's not asking to vote to authorize his expanded use of force. he says he'd welcome congress' support. this president is planning on going ahead with what he outlined last night in this prime time address. continued air strikes in iraq against isis. and, also, opening up a whole new battleground for the united states, air strikes inside syria: right now, there are just

under 29,000 troops serving in the war in afghanistan. they're mostly due to leave after gan stan by the end of this year. what does it look like for the u.s. to have an on going security role? do you want to know what that looks like for the u.s. to be doing counter terrorism policing that we're not occupying? you don't have to look far to see what that looks like. we've been doing that for ten years. just immediately over the border from afghanistan in parts of pakistan, in the tribal areas of pakistan. we've been engaged in a military, connecticut, counter terrorism campaign in that country for ten years now.

it was 2002 in yemen, targeting an al-qaida leader. and then we stopped in yemen and picked up in 200 9d. we've pick ds back up in 2009. government yemen saying that five al-qaida suspecteds were killed in a u.s. drone strike there. right now, we are in year 14 of the full-scale war in afghanistan. year 13 of bombing pakistan. you're five of bombing somalia. three years after the end of our formal war in iraq, we're into

150 air strikes in the past month alone. now we have a new juan to ask. all of these aerial bombardment campaigns, you better believe that when we leave there, there's going to be some sort of aerial campaign mounted in that country sometime after. all of these things going on all at the same time. all indefinitely. what's different about syria, unlike pakistan and somalia and iraq and soon-to-be afghanistan, all countries in which we have on going bombing campaigns which we don't call war, the new one we're about to start, that's the only one of those countries where the government of that country says if we do try to drop bombs there, they are going

to shoot down our planes. syria is different. you might remember last night in our special coverage about bombing syria. today, in syria, interviewed the deputy foreign minister of that country about how the minister feels about how we are going to start bombing inside that country. >> the way the united states, us and everybody in the region expects us to act will be different. >> but do you know when u.s. war planes are going to strike your country and where? >> you know, not to make any mistakes. i think close coordinations should be implemented.

>> so your war planes do not engage u.s. war planes? >> there should be no mistakes. in any regard. when mistakes are made, then both parties will pay the price for that. >> the syrian deputy forminister that says if the u.s. does start bombing, that syria might try to shoot down those u.s. planes. which, yes, at one level, we're gist adding syria to iraq, somalia, yemen and pakistan, adding to the places that we're bombing indefinitely and nobody really knows when it ends. on the other hand, it shows you that syria might be a qualitatively different move. not just because isis is a different group. this is a bigger deal. yes, diplomatically, it's paying

off. today,all of these countries signed on to the communique agreeing that they'll all cooperate with each other. that's a big deal because egypt, iraq, jordan, lebanon, saudi arabia and kuwait, that i had're all on board, at least on paper, with potentially participating in military strikes against isis. that's a big deal. this is a big deal. two questions, this is a huge effort. does it rise to the escalation of effort? question two, do we want this to be the new normal of the way we interact with the world. do we want to be doing this all over the world indefinitely?

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way and ought to be listened to. joining us is seth multon. thafrpg thanks for being here. i have to ask if there's a sort of level of insight that we ought to be looking to iraq veterans for when we consider these new decisions about war and what looks like war inside of iraq and potentially in syria. to veterans have something special to add to the conversation? >> i think we zo. actually, ten years ago last month, i was serving as a marine and my mission was to be a military adviser in iraq. when the iraqi unit we were advising came under assault by the militia in najaf, we became embroiled in the worst combat of the war in that time. it showed a military advisory commission can really quickly become ground combat. that's one of the things i'm worried about with the president's current strategy. let's not forget, the vietnam war started as a military

advisory mission. >> in terms of the way this is being debated, there's been a lot of discussion about this sort of red line, according to secretary of state john kerry, that there won't be combat troops in iraq, that it's not comb combat. that said, air strikes are happening. it's not just drones. it's manned aircraft as well. there's plenty of advisers there. we're at 1 100 and probably going up to 1,500 very shortly with the president's announcement last night. is it wrong to be drawing a bright line saying those folks are there but it's not a combat mission. >> i think that line quickly becomes blurred when you're on the ground. it's very difficult to accurately target an insurgent force, which is integrated among the population. if you don't have troops on the ground directing the air strikes. otherwise it's very difficult to actually target the insurgents and not kill civilians. so if you have advisers that are close enough to the frontlines to help direct those air

strikes, it's very quick and easy for them to get drawn into real combat. >> do you think that congress ought to be voting on an authorization to use military force based on what the president sketched out last night? the expansion of the campaign in iraq and potentially an extension into syria. should congress be voting on that specifically? >> absolutely. and congress should also be asking some very difficult questions about exactly how this campaign is going to be carried out. i mean look, when isis went into iraq, they swept over the iraqi army. but it's not that they overwhelmed the iraqi army. the iraqi army put their weapons down and went home because they have no faith in prime minister malaki's sectarian government. the iraqi army outnumbers isis 30 to 1. the problem is a political problem, not a military problem. the iraqi army doesn't have any trust in the government that they're supposed to defend. so i would rather see congress and the president sending political advisers to baghdad to

help put together the iraqi government, so the iraqi army could do this job itself. and i think ultimately at the end of the day, iraq has to be able to defend its own borders. >> seth moulton, iraq war veteran running for congress in massachusetts. four tours of duty there, including one of the first platoons into baghdad at the very start of the war. mr. moulton, again, congratulations on your win. thanks for being here to help us understand this. stay with us. we (cha-ching!) (cha-ching!) many empt(cha-ching!) it felt like we were flushing money away. mom! that's why we switched to charmin ultra mega roll. it's charmin quality and long lasting. with more go's per roll, it pays to use charmin ultra mega roll. charmin ultra mega roll is 75% more absorbent so you can use less with every go. plus it even lasts longer than the leading thousand sheet brand. for us, mega roll equals mega value.

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