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♪ hello, iowa! i'm back! >> she's back and clearly running. she says she hasn't decided yet but that's what someone does when they run for president. they go to iowa, joe. >> yes, they do. >> they go to iowa. they go the steak fry. >> harold, isn't that what they do? >> i don't know. harold. >> that's what i heard. >> jeremy peters would know. when you're running for president write a book, check
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and then go around the country talking about what your beliefs are. check. use that book tour. then do you go to iowa? >> i think new hampshire is next. >> exactly. so that is basically a run for president unless she says it isn't. >> right. >> so the silliness like will she or won't she we don't do that any more. >> let's look at the images. >> harkin, clinton, hillary, they are at the steak fry and grilling steak. yeah. >> that's big. okay. >> i like steak. >> 5,000 people showed up. >> that's great. >> they were very excited. all very upset when she said, a little joke i haven't decided. they all said boo. because they want her to run. >> you know -- >> what's thor to here, joe. >> i'll tell you what the story is. i like hillary clinton.
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but what hillary clinton has done over the past year or so is why americans hate politics. >> why? >> it just is. >> what? she's having fun. she's having steak. >> you're secretary of state. you play it safe. you then write a book. you say absolutely nothing. you go around on a glorified book tour where you say nothing. you want people to ask you to run for president so you can say i'm not running for president we don't know yet. you go to these stupid events. you're either running or not running. >> she's running. that's okay. >> there are enough things going on in the world, we have enough crises that maybe playing safe, we need a politician that doesn't just sit back and act like a robot and just like get programmed in and do -- like no creativity. no spontaneousity, nothing from
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the heart. this is the problem for people who month her and like her. she puts on that political hat and then she's a robot. she goes through the motions. she doesn't reveal herself. she didn't do it against barack obama that's why she lost in 2008. it wasn't until her back was against the wall and had to stop acting like a robot on the campaign trail and instead had to be herself that hillary clinton started winning. she's been a robot here for two years, playing safe, writing books, telling us absolutely nothing, going to iowa, doing absolutely nothing. and just begging people to beg her to run for president of the united states or not while people are getting their heads carved off. this is not a game. this is not some little chess match. this is something that actually matters. and these families that have been around for like decades and who are now getting their
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children ready to run, and i'm not just talking about the clintons, i'm talks about the bushs and these two american families. you know what? if you want to run, run. if you want to save america get your ass out there and save america. stop playing your stupid political games because more people are out of work and if they do have jobs they got two or three crappie jobs. the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer, terrorists are carving heads off people who are trying to help in the middle east and you are playing games rubbing your hands together like hamlet -- jeb if you're going to run, run and if you're not going to run tell us. hillary, if you're going to run just say you're going to run and stop playing games. we got to roll up our sleeves. if you're not going to run, then get the hell out of the way.
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so other people can get out there and we can start having a serious debate. what did ted turner say, lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. hey hillary, lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. i don't want to see you eating steak. i want to see you talking about how we're going to stop isis, not behind some cute little pre-packaged plan that some of your handlers fixed up or somebody helped you write in a book. same with you jeb. come on mr. savior of the republican party. if you're the savior of the republican party, then get out there or listen to your mom and just stay home. but stop having it both ways. let's not cover that story. let's cover real news. >> i'll end with this. in iowa with a teasing statement it's true i'm thinking about it. >> oh, shut up! shut up, hillary. shut up, jeb. no. you guys, if the two great
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families that have -- look where we are right now, right? right? you guys have done really great haven't you? america is in a great place after 25 years of bush-clinton rule. what a way to go. if you're going to run, run. give us new ideas that help us face the next 25 years. by the way, i would really like george h.w. bush to run. >> i know. wouldn't that be wonderful. >> identify always loved jeb. he's my favorite politician. of all leaders he's my favorite leaders. i'm sick and tired of the cat and mouse game. maybe i'll run, maybe i won. hillary the same thing. let them ask me to run and it will make me feel so good. >> i agree with you. >> do it or don't do it. >> john and alex in the control room, we have kasie hunt coming up later talking about hillary
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in iowa. can we scratch that and anything else that happened in iowa that was ready for elizabeth group. there was a whole other bunch of stuff happening. if she can come in to her raw tape that might serve our purpose. >> mika, how was your weekend? >> it was okay. >> okay? >> yeah. >> mine was really relaxing. it was. i just got a little revved up. >> i can tell. >> i'm sick and tired of the games. i don't understand the calculation. >> nfl story will set you off again. >> jeremy wants to talk. >> you raise an interesting point because behind the fact of all of this empty political rhetoric, the kabuki, oh, i'm thinking about it stuff, you forget hillary is actually extremely well positioned to run on her foreign policy credentials right now. with the world on fire you would think she would be --
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>> hear some ideas >> but you're not. that's the problem. >> maybe some criticism or concern. >> that's why americans hate politics. >> honesty. >> it's all calculation. >> all right. thank you, jeremy. >> is it too early to start running? how would you do it if you were advising her? >> run then. >> i get it. how would she begin the talk? >> i'm running for president. i know i'm supposed to sit back and play it safe but have you seen the middle east is on fire. you know what the democratic party is right now lost. the democratic party may actually lose control of the senate. we're going to face two miserable years. i'm going out on the campaign trail and put my heart out on my sleeve an tell me why democrats are so important, why democrats need to win, why it's critical you don't let the tea party take over the senate and house. they will talk about how i work with the democratic senate and the house to get people back to work, get good jobs with good
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wages, stop the isis threat in the middle east. now is the time. don't calculate. we have definitely heard you. i'll get to more news here because we have lots to get to. a vote is expected on capitol hill -- >> are there tranquilizers on this? >> you need some. a u.s. plan to arm and train syrian rebels in the fight against isis. several arab powers say they will help strike target from the air but putting combat force on the ground is elusive. commitments from overseas is vague with concerns that the military campaign could end up helping the syrian government and in turn its supporters in iran. while a majority of americans back the administration's push for action nearly 70% lack confidence the u.s. will accomplish its goals. fewer than four in ten approve the president's foreign policy. let's bring in nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel live in istanbul, turkey with the latest on this.
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richard? >> reporter: good morning. secretary kerry is in paris today and he's attending a conference. he's sounding much more optimistic than in the past. he's talking about dozens of nations that have signed on to join this coalition. in the arab world today the arab newspapers are all talking about an arab coalition that arab states have signed up, that some although not named are even willing to join in combat operations. so if you ask the state department and we've been talking to state department officials they tell you that this is starting to work, that a coalition is starting to come together. the main question is what happens after you bomb? the bombing isis is relatively easy. they are not hiding. they are operating in training camps. they are moving in visible vehicles that they were, many of them they captured from the iraqi army, american armored vehicles. then who is going to go in to replace them?
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if you started bombing, for example, the main syrian city where isis is based right now, the city where it's been holding many hostages, the force that's more likely to take over after that bombing is hezbollah and iran and the syrian government of bashar al assad. >> actually, let me ask you. as we look for allies overseas, you're standing right in the middle. obviously a country that's not been the best ally in anti-terror operations. in fact, we wonder about their commitment not only there but also against hamas and several other terror groups. where is turkey right now? >> reporter: turkey is in a very strange position, very difficult position because if you looked recently the outgoing u.s. ambassador, he issued some statements that were very controversial here. as kerry was touring around the middle east he came out and said
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in the past turkey has aligned itself with groups that the united states doesn't support. he meeting with groups that united states considers terrorist organizations. lot of criticism against turkey for allowing it's very long border with syria to be a transit point for foreign fighters, militants can arrive from around the world and pass through the border, oftentimes with the turkish government and the turkish military looking the other way. some tightening of security has happened along the border but turkey hasn't committed itself to intervening militarily in this coalition. that's partly because turkey is trying to show independence. and the militants from isis are holding more than 40 turkish diplomats hostage and very possible turkey at least publicly come out and says it supports these actions that those hostages could be killed. >> nbc's richard engel.
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thank you very much. of course the horrible news over the weekend the militants threaten to execute a fourth western captive after releasing video on saturday showing the beheading of a british aid worker david haines. he was captured by militants in syria 2013. the terror group says it will now kill hostage alan henning. let's turn now to nfl. multiple sources tell nbc sports that ray rice will appeal his indefinite suspension for lying about what occurred in a casino elevator with his then fiancee. rice is expected to say he told officials the truth. what did or did not know about the altercation is leading to growing calls for commissioner roger goodell to resign. a woman's advocacy group flew this banner that had this hash tag, #goodellmustgo.
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response to the case led to powerful statements from sports broadcasters on sunday. >> it's the biggest mistake of roger goodell's career. he should have never been in the court process because then you have to be the investigator. then you have to look into all the details. he has other things -- >> too many inconsistencies. >> he should be the supreme court justice. there should not only be a trial court, an appellate process and if it gets to roger let it get to roger. this is a big mistake and it has to change. >> i spent this week answering seemingly impossible questions about the league's biggest stars. mom, why did he do that? why is he in jail? why did he get fired? and yesterday why don't they even have control of their own players? the nfl patient seeing is believing. if they had to see that video to be moved to action shouldn't
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those that support the league demand action. we all wait on the answer to the central question, what exactly does the nfl stand for? >> what does it stand for, harold? >> i'll tell you, the commissioner has got a lot of questions to answer. he probably brought more of this on to himself than he expected early on. you know, if, indeed, some of these things they are saying is true the video was there, he may have known some of this he has a real problem. if those things are not true, here are some of the things but i'm not convinced he has to resign if the video he didn't know about the video or everything -- >> what about the two day suspension for somebody getting the hell beaten out of them. >> willie said it best. that was the initial response of the nfl. if that was a response, then he may have to answer that as well. >> i don't understand why are they -- are they so blind to the
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culture of violence in the nfl because it's surrounding them? it's such a part of the life of so many of these players? >> well, i wouldn't go as far to say i think this is a cultural thing. i'm not sure violence that people -- >> domestic violence. >> that players are committing. first of all if you look at the incidents. the incidents outside of the nfl are far greater than in the nfl. we need to talk about this as a society and culture overall. that being said i think the commissioner has got to be able to respond honestly to these questions and if indeed he didn't see the video, didn't know about this, no one in his office knew about it it's hard to say he has to resign. if he did know about it he has a real problem. >> mika, he makes so much money. >> he does. >> if he didn't know about the video how do you say he needs to
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resign. or a two game suspension. >> ray rice basically saying that he lied. >> if that's true then i think you're right he has a real problem the commissioner does. >> he has three different sources saying he knew. there's a much bigger problem. as you go through this, mika, you see what happened in the past several weeks. you have a cluelessness when there was an interview with norah o'donnell. he's sitting there and parsing words. for the billions of dollars they make they should hire a pr person. you guys make billions of dollars. you can't hire one good pr person that can help you on here? just maybe they called baltimore and talked to the own there are. he seems to know you get it out. which always suggests to me if they are not getting it out there that means there's more there. that means that they don't want
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light to be shone as a disinfectant. >> one of the problem is, you both talk about the dollars and money that roger goodell makes and the nfl makes. where do they make the money from? where is the money coming from? sponsor, right? isn't that how it works. have any sponsors pulled out? where's gatorade? where's the big names that flash the stadiums and make commercials. where are they on this? we're sitting here condemning the nfl rightfully show, for their stupidity, bone head edness and support for domestic violence. but these sponsors are in the same boat. they are paying for it. they are paying to watch football and then the side effects of it, domestic violence, play out and they are making money off of it and paying the nfl. >> how much longer. what about women's organizations. >> they need to pull out unless something happens. women's organizations are
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speaking up. women's organizations are going to the games. i like what women's organizations are doing. but they don't have the power. >> i misspoke. what about products that are focused on women. >> correct. i totally agree. >> that are still sponsoring that. >> all products. if you're a major sponsor -- i know what you're talking about women wearing ray rice jerseys. that's sick. >> is covergirl a sponsor of the nfl, guys? >> we'll get a list of their sporns. >> check and see. i've seen somebody do a mock up on twitter. if you were a business and you focused on women, selling to women and you're still a sponsor of the nfl you got a serious problem. >> i think if you're a business in general and sponsor the nfl and have not talked about this in your corporate community and decided to either speak to them or make a move then you're complicit, because you're paying them for this. they are making money. as long as nfl is making the
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money they have a business that's running and allows them to be arrogant and tone deaf and put things like domestic violence under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. you're paying for it, sponsors. you're paying for it. >> covergirl has an nfl collection. covergirl needs to do something. still ahead on "morning joe" we'll check with kasie hunt who is in iowa. >> she has the elizabeth warren story. >> we'll find out the answer to the big question on everybody's mind, what kind of steak did they serve. >> and outage at six flags. and what went on during the palin family brawl of 2014. sources close to the palin family are now weighing in. that's so, so funny. >> there we go. look at this one.
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♪ not to worry. let's take a look at the morning papers. from our parade of papers "the washington post" north korea sentenced two american matthew miller to six years of hard labor over claims he committed hostile acts while visiting the country as a tourist. reports say miller ripped up his visa after arriving in the country and said he was seeking asylum there. north korean authorities accuse him of entering the country illegally as a spy. the u.s. says north korea is using miller and two other detainees as political bargaining chips. >> we looked at the "new york times" and ukrainian prime minister says russian president, vladimir putin, is intent on conquering quote all of ukraine. the prime minister also said he supports sanctions imposed on russia by the eu and u.s. and that only membership in nato would allow ukraine to fight
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back against aggression from the kremlin. despite a cease-fire negotiated earlier fighting continues in ukraine. the "new york post," miss new york was named the new miss america on abc last night with the help of a red plastic cup. >> what? >> kira kazantsev is -- >> she's the third straight winner from new york and during the talent portion the new miss america took a page from the movie script of 2012's pitch perfect. ♪ >> i'll tell you what happened. she says she chose that talent to show little girls they can do whatever they want and still succeed. a good reason. it's so cute. >> kate does that whole cup
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thing. >> my daughters do too. social media was not very impressed. >> all right. >> congratulations to the new miss america. >> yeah. >> you watched it. >> i've seen it once or twice. not 47 times. >> i've seen it 47 to 48 times. it's a good movie. >> the "times" about a power outage at six flags in new jersey temporarily shut down rides leaving passengers stranded on the tracks. park officials say riders were safely removed from stalled attractions within 20 minutes but a faulty transformer is to became. this marks the latest in a series of issues at six flags theme parks this summer. last week the traffic a recently closed roller coaster at magic mountain in california caught fire. >> that's not good. >> that isn't good. in july at the same park a tree branch caused another ride to derail. >> that's not good. >> let's go the "anchorage daily
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news." a source close to the palin family is speaking out with an account of the drunken brawl that broke out at a party. police in alaska confirmed sarah palin and family were present at the event but a source says they did not start it. the palin family says the fight began when track palin was confronted by his sister's ex-boyfriend. the source adds todd palin came to the aid of his son. track suffered four cracked ribs. the fight involved about 20 people and they are still reviewing the case. >> wow. >> all right. she's been re-editing everything. no worries. here with us from des moines, iowa and the warren thing, we have msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt. you've redone -- >> no i want to hear about hillary. >> you've done everything but the hillary part, right? >> reporter: yes. something like that. although i would like to
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mention, mika you asked a few weeks ago what does frying steak involves. they don't fry the steak at the steak fry. it's grilled. they call it that because other events at the time were called fish fries. actually they did fry the fish at the fish fry. one of the interesting takeaways. the crowd was excited to see her. she tantalized with whether or not she was going to run for president. but i will say, we talked to a lot of people in the crowd and there was to a certain extent a sense there was still maybe looking for an alternative or that hillary hadn't really made the case yet. there were a lot of people there who were looking for her, looking to see if she had improved from last time. it took her seven years to swallow her pride and come back to iowa. you know after her loss to edwards and obama in 2008.
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then on the flip side there was also a small, i will say table that said ready for warren. several people wearing elizabeth warren hats and talking about the idea that maybe hillary clinton isn't liberal enough especially for what is a particularly liberal activist community of democrats here in iowa. bernie sanders held a competing event in des moines, also drew something of a crowd not over 5,000 people that came to harkin's final steak fry. joe biden will be here next week. there's a sense here while people don't necessarily see a very strong alternative to hillary at this point there's some interest in finding one. >> all right kasie hunt live in des moines, iowa. >> tantalizes the crowd. that's fascinating. >> i like the fact that they call it a fry, it's really a grilling. >> they fried stake.
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ever fry stake in a skillet. really good. >> coming up why roger goodell's job is almost certainly safe. that's next in the must read opinion pages. in a few minutes he's calling at any time worst week in the nfl's history. sports reporter tells us how the nfl can turn things around. we'll be right back. angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. by making it easy to buy and schedule service by top-rated providers, conveniently stay up-to-date on progress, and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with the angie's list mobile app. visit angieslist.com today.
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♪ time now for the must read opinion pages at 33 past the hour. leslie morgan steiner writes in "the washington post" he held a gun to my head. i loved him. i wish the world could give gentleman any rice and other victims of relationship violence the dignity they deserve. instead of condemning her for loving a troubled man. let's educate ourselves about the twisted psychology of abusive love. firing roger goodell won't do. i'm not sure that's the only thing should to be done. the next one is from the "new
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york times." ray rice and his rage. it is a couple's decision. whether a union is salvageable and worth the effort to save it. but too often victims of abuse feel that they have no choice. they just feel trapped. staying doesn't excuse the abuse itself and it can actually embolden the abuser. harold, you have one other? >> "new york times," nfl stands by, if you want to understand why goodell's job is safe this is why. the only people who can fire him are the 32 nfl owners and they have zero interest in letting him go. he makes them money. currently the nfl takes in about $10 billion overall. goodell has told them he wants to make it a $25 billion a year business by the year 2027. you can practically see their mouths watering at the prospect.
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>> so it's all about money, right, harold? >> no doubt. a big part of it. again, if the video was there and the commissioner knew about this and in his interview with norah o'donnell is not telling the truth then he's going to have a real problem and the momentum is building that he will likely face a big, big sacrifice. >> what do you think? >> have to give up his job. >> obviously there's more to be done here. there's public outcry. we're seeing from hannah storm to everybody else showing up on their broadcasts talking about this. 45% of the nfl fans are women. these are people trying to support the league. they are making money and bigger outlook on this is how do they continue to make money. it is roger's position sustainable going forward and will be public outcry. owners make the ultimate decision. >> they do. >> job safety. >> they are his bosses. >> they look at the bottom line
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and has bush, barclays, mcdonald's, covergirl, gillette, head and shoulders, old spice. do you want to give money to the nfl. >> why would covergirl especially? i don't understand. >> i don't get it. there are many more. we can make a list. let's make a full screen of the sponsors because if we call out roger goodell and burn him at the stake it seems silly since he's the one whose job it is to make money for league and he's doing very well because they are giving it. >> nfl are enablers. >> it's money. >> people are saying the nfl are enablers to domestic abusers. the sponsorers are enablers of the nfl who has been an enabler to the abusers. how do you teach the people who are being paid millions and millions of dollars to be athletic/violent on the field to
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turn that off in their personal lives. so there's a big difference here. you have to turn that off. there are some people who do it really well. we're talking about the nfl. >> most of the nfl does that well. >> we don't know that. we just don't know that. i don't think that's the case. i think women are treated pretty shabbily. they cover everything up. they were covering this thing up. >> all right. coming up on "morning joe," star vikings running back adrian peterson sits out sunday's game because of child abuse. not everybody in agreement about the severity of the charges. >> i'm from the south. every black parent will be in jail under those circumstances. >> does the nfl have a serious problem or are we overreacting?
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"boston globe's" reporter dan shaughnessy was at the vikings/patriots game yesterday. he joins us next. we'll be right back with more "morning joe". you can eat that on weight watchers? looks amazing. looks like my next dinner party. that's only 4 points? with weight watchers you can enjoy the food you really want. dine out on favorites... or cook up something new. i can do this every day.
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my mom was wrong. she did the best she could. she was wrong about some of that stuff she taught me. i promised my kids i won't teach that mess to them. you can't beat a kid to make them do what. >> that's correct. >> thousands of things we've learned since then. now we're to the point, the only thing i'm proud about is the team that i played for. they did the right thing. >> yes. >> take them off the field. i don't care. we're in a climate right now, i don't care what it is. take them off the field because you know what?
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as a man that's the only thing we really respect. >> that makes so much sense. >> can you believe this week for the nfl, you have child abuse charges coming out on friday. you got all these domestic abuse. >> damage from repeated pounding on the field. that was former vikings receiver and current espn analyst chris carter with his take on the other issue facing the nfl over the weekend. adrian peterson, star running back for the minnesota vikings was booked and released from jail after being indicted for allegedly abusing his 4-year-old son. they are determining what happens next for peterson who was deactivated. we're seeing quick action. let's bring in veterans sports columnist for the "boston globe," dan shaughnessy who is in. minnesota after covering yesterday's vikings/patriots game. characterize it for us.
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how bad was this past week for? >> the worst week in the history of the league. in 1963 they played games two days after john f. kennedy was assassinated and that was something that commissioner pete roselle took to his grave. he felt badly about that. this week it's worse. so much personal conduct on the part of players, so much outrage from fans. seeing the ray rice video at the start of the week, the week ends with adrian peterson arrested for child abuse. another team took a player off its field another let its player play. a ton of stuff. >> i don't understand the decision by the 49ers, obviously san francisco has long been recognized as one of the most progressive places in america yet seem to be behind the times of north carolina on an issue like this. a guy is arrested for beating up his pregnant girlfriend. she has bruises all over herself
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and the 49ers comes out aggressively supporting him and then playing this guy. >> i think they are falling back on has he been charged? they are going back the legal process hasn't played out yet. that's the kind of thing that gets you in trouble. you saw with goodell earlier in the week with the ray rice. the legal process in new jersey basically let him go with a year of counselling. >> that's what i don't understand. if somebody you worked with in the newsroom at the globe beat up their fiancee who was pregnant, got arrested for it, would they show up at their desk the next morning and be working for the globe or be suspended? any other place in america would not let these people come through the door until they were cleared of the charges, right? >> i think you're right. if it becomes public record, you're out until the thing plays itself out in the judicial process. i would agree with that.
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>> here's a language they understand. money. and as far as we've seen, dan, there's no sponsors pulling out, right? >> well, this -- you hit this earlier in your program, mika. you know the ratings for yesterday's games are going to being a great. they always are. this is america's favorite television program. that's what matters. i don't think you see people -- okay some planes flying overhead protesting and women's groups here and there, people write nice editorials how bad this is. people watch the games. they love their football. the jets blew a big league. at a big story. monday fight football. eagles are playing, indianapolis. that's the story. this is our modern day gladiators. people want their football. >> thank you. we see you around fenway all the time. from worst to first to worst. has anybody done that before. has anybody gone from worst to
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first to worst >> joe, it's not been done and they plan to go worst, first, worst, first. >> knocking on good. >> we love the red sox. boston globe's dan shaughnessy. still ahead this morning isis skuts another hostage this time a british aide worker prompting prime minister david cameron to call it an act of fire evil. what comes next in the usa's war against terror. plus white house officials finally get around to calling the conflict a war. >> yeah. >> that's new language. >> that's what is it. >> does that mean we'll see boots on the ground. we'll have that bait after this break. we'll be right back with more "morning joe."
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is the president moving in the right direction? >> yeah. i think he's moving in the right direction but i think a lot of it is way too late. i think we have to move decisively and as for this idea of just having a vote in congress about arming and providing weapons and training for the free syrian army, i don't think that goes far enough. honestly i think we are at war. we know that they pose a threat to everything that we stand for. we don't know who the moderates really are and this vetting process is discombobulated at best. >> are there any moderates over there to fund? >> i don't think there are. ultimately if we'll declare war let's do it. i support an authorization of force. i think that congress ought to assert itself. the decade old authorization of force, i don't think is adequate. i think we need to have another authorization of force. >> can we not admit cannot your
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committee, foreign affairs committee, congress, president not admit that we'll be helping assad by going after aisis? these people claiming they are a third way they are full of it. there's no third away. you get assad or you get isis. >> isis poses a bigger threat to our national security. that's clear. what we recently saw over the weekend with isis and free syrian army doing a truce, there is no clear path to victory by relying on other forces in that region, and let's come clean with the american people. i know that we're all war weary. everybody is. but the fact is they do pose a threat to everything we care about and if we're serious about wiping them out let's go in and get the job done. >> gentlemen have jeremy peters. >> congressman, good morning. you say you don't think the president has gone far enough in his strategy to defeat isis. so then i wonder specifically what would you do different?
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because it sounds like what you're saying is we need boots on the ground, right? >> why don't we be straight with the american people. there are boots on the ground. you might not want to call them boots on the ground but the people that are there, over 1,000 troops that are already there right now their families actually consider them to be boots on the ground and so if we're going to take them out let's do everything we have to do. >> what is that? is that ground trooms? >> it needs ground troops, absolutely. the commanders of our military ought to be calling those shots and not politicians. >> harold ford? >> i follow up on jeremy's point. matt good to see you, brother. one quick question. what would the resolution look like in your mind. should the president ask for a specific authorization to put ground troops on the ground. i agree with you. troops on the grounds, families would know. what should the president ask for and what are you willing to
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vote for? >> he should ask for an authorization of force similar to what president bush asked for a decade ago and we ought to give that to him. we're at war with these guys. let's quit candy coating it. let's go in with everything we got and finish it this time. let's take care of isis once and for all. >> that might be easier said than done. that's one point of view. >> you can't have it both ways. >> you can't blow everything up. that creates new hatred. >> if you go over there get the job done. if you're not stay home. >> that's my point. >> we can't go in halfway. >> congressman salmon, thank you very much. coming up a surprise guest is joining us. here's a hint. she worked in the white house and on the presidential campaign trail. she's been cast in a hollywood blockbuster . she's written two awesome books naming one of the jobs in the
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that i didn't make the leap to even think that anything else could possibly fall in the category of being that interesting or that fun or that loose. but i joined the show in august. i was on "morning joe" that morning. it helped i was a little overtired, i think. it was awesome. they were awesome. they are so funny. wicked funny. wicked smart. they play that down. they are crazy smart. i think we'll have fun. >> you'll have fun. congratulations. on these issues you know i'm always right so i'll tell you you'll being a great. i know this. >> thank you. >> for sure. have fun. >> i'll miss you guys. i'll be back soon. >> a great group. >> i love it. it's going to be fun to watch. >> let's go to the top of the hour. >> washington anchor for bbc, katty kay is joining us.
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we start with nfl. ray rice will appeal his indefinite suspension for lying about what occurred in a casino elevator with his then fiancee. rice is expected to say he told officials the truth. what nfl did or did not know about all the terrify occasion is leading to growing calls for commissioner roger goodell to resign. a woman's advocacy group flew this banner that re read #goodellmuread #goodel read #goodellmustgo. >> it's the biggest mistake of roger goodell's career. he should have never been in the court process because then you have to be the investigator, then you have to look into all the details. he has other things. >> too many inconsistencies. >> he should not be concerned with it. he should be a supreme court justice. there should be a trial court,
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appellate process and if it gets to roger, it gets to roger. this is a big mistake and it has to change. >> i've spent this weekend answering seemingly endless questions about questions. mom why did he do that? why is he in jail? why didn't he get fired. yesterday, why don't they even have control of their own players? the nfl apparently seeing is believing if the nfl and ravens had to see that video be moved to significant action shouldn't those who support the league demand the same to see action, to see change before believing as we all wait on the answer to the central question, what exactly does the nfl stand for? >> it's a good question. goodell, still appears to have support from the league. however dallas cowboys owner jerry jones says 100% of the owners are in goodell's corner. we're us now alan schwartz, correspondent for the "new york times." he writes this.
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during thinks eight years as nfl commissioner goodell has deflected many crises that threatened the league's integrity and public image from player misconduct to team misconduct. he has survived them all largely because team owners are pleased with the soaring revenues. their calculation is that the profits are worth any set backs that result from a crisis-management style that has been called everything from clumsy to last week conspiratorial. >> reporter: the building we're sitting in right now should we all march up into ted's office and say we won't participate any broadcasting associated with nbc because nbc broadcasts sunday night football? i mean, you know, the transit
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property of protest has its l limits and we need to expect the nfl to present better explanations for why it does things the way it do but in terms of the sponsors and demanding something of the sponsors, if we do that we must demand the same from ourselves. >> ouch. t.j. could you have ted turn off his camera. come on. first of all, though -- >> happy to do that. >> we can march out en masse. >> i don't pay millions of dollars to support the game. >> should nbc not benefit the nfl and say we're not going broadcast the game next sunday. >> maybe. i'm asking you about sponsors. if you think sponsors have a role since money is what your very first theme here is that money is trying this. how do you stop this sort of like hemorrhaging of domestic abuse cases not being handled
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well if sponsors don't get involved? >> look it's not for me to say that sponsors should boycott the nfl. that's not my role. it's yours and that's beat the. my job is to discuss perhaps more of the overarching issues and discuss what the choices are. what people choose to do. >> what are the choice? >> the choices are sponsors can say we're not going participate in the nfl any more because or temporarily because we feel as if they have done things that societally disturb us. >> have you heard of any sponsors that have done that yet? >> no. and i think that the sponsors act the same way that the nfl does. they believe -- i'm not saying it's correct but they believe that this will blow over just like michael vick's dogfighting ring, just like ray lewis when there were grave concerns about what happen that night. >> right. >> excuse me? >> i said right.
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it means i'm agreeing with you. you don't have to be offensive. you can relax. >> i didn't hear you. >> i said right. do you agree with dan shaughnessy that this past week has between worst week in the history of the nfl because you bring up other things like everything else this too will pass. >> there was a weekend in 1963 when pete roselle decided to play games the sunday after kennedy was killed. that wasn't much of a hoot either. there was never much of a week with this much bad news. it was enough to take the nba and atlanta hawks off the sports pages. so when you consider that it gives you and idea of how much people are jumping on this, and it's obviously reasonable. the league needed to have unve unequivocal proof of what happened and why didn't they see that video. it's a fair question.
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why did it take ray rice's word for it and now they say well you didn't tell us truth. how many witnesses, you know, necessarily tell the truth. now rice even says, the gm of the ravens says he did tell the truth. we have that to deal with. even so, i mean you don't -- you don't, you know, in the witness room, you don't have the perp go no it didn't happen. they go okay. >> alan schwartz, thank you. >> harold, he went back 50 years. i think this is -- i guess dan shaughnessy was talking about it and last week we talked about when pete roselle decided to play a couple of -- play nfl games a couple of days after jfk got shot. if this is not the worst week in the nfl it certainly is one of the two worst weeks in nfl's history, and the question is, do
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sponsor keep turning the other way. >> i'm an nfl fan. there are things we got think about. >> by the way, i've been an nfl fanny entire life. >> the "new york times" won't stop take ads from people. he feels that strongly the "new york times" should do the same. so i get the indignation. but if goodell saw this video or had knowledge of it, if he lied to norah o'donnell he'll lose his job. the momentum is building for that to happen. >> put that aside. >> we have a domestic violence problem in our country. the incidents of reports are greater outside the nfl than they are in the nfl. that doesn't excuse nfl from dealing with this. adrian peterson and all these other issues. >> maybe they are protected by the type of behavior that we've seen from nfl in the past couple of weeks. >> if that's the case there are people who have to be held accountable. all this indignation in the nfl,
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we should have indignation in society. >> let's talk outside of the nfl. if somebody at this network beats up their wife who is pregnant and they have bruises all over their body -- >> i want to beat him up. >> if they do that, they are not working here on monday. >> no doubt about it. >> inside nfl, in san francisco, supposedly the most progressive place in america, can you beat up your fiancee, you can put bruises on your pregnant fiancee, and you can show up to work and get paid millions and millions of dollars. that doesn't sounding frommive to me. i think society has it better. >> i agree with you. they should not be playing, period. >> why are they? >> that's something -- they should not be playing. if the league has made that decision. >> tommy has the answer. he'll answer it right now. >> they are hiding behind the legal system. if you put an to end any
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business policies into context here there are certain places that will put employees into work situations that will allow judicial vetting to take place. who knows what will happen in other situations. but in the 49ers situation yeah we saw him play. when it comes to ray rice from what happened with goodell, how they investigated this, they should probably change their policy on how they are going to investigate their players going forward. not leaving it up to the team specifically, how they are going to go ahead and look at these video instances. we know how nfl loves to review the tape. so why not review the tape of what happened. the casino had enough camera there's. >> i think we're at a time where everybody sort of have to put their cards on the table. everybody. katty kay, jump in. remember when players, i guess, turned their jerseys inside out when a team owner was racist recently. it led to his demise. >> by the way the whole league stopped.
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>> the whole league stopped. because racism is wrong. just like domestic violence. >> beating up women that are half your size. >> i just don't understand why there's even a debate, like all the cards should fall on this house. >> i completely agree. after the first tape he should have been out, right? every woman would agree and every man would agree that was totally unacceptable behavior and if this was just a one off you might think it was an unfortunate mistake on the nfl's part but it's systemic. this is far more than a one off. you get to the stwraet you think the organization thinks it's above the law, you're making so much money, that your players are such superstars, you know, you get into that bubble mindset of thinking the rules of behavior and the rules almost of society and law do not apply to us as individuals. and i think that totally has to stop and that's where, you know, the organization has to step in and lead by example.
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not keep thinking we can protect our own. i mean, can you think of analogies here. think of the catholic church thinking we can somehow cover up what has happened because we're so big and powerful and we don't want to get out in front of this. >> mika u-bring up a great point. you have a racist creep making cell phone call saying racist things. >> horrible things. >> the entire world stops. players turn their jerseys inside out. sponsors say they are going to leave. the whole world just stops because of words that are said. offensive words. >> a woman getting assaulted. >> now you compare that to women getting beaten up and knocked out inside of elevators. pregnant women getting battered and abused. women getting beaten up, thrown on the couch with guns, tossed into a shower, choked, threatened and everybody hey, hey, you know what?
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you know what, alan goes come on, man. alan with the "new york times," come on, man. why don't you guys just stop showing it too. why doesn't the "new york times" stop and the nfl too. maybe the "new york times" -- jeremy peters, let me ask you, why does the "new york times" hate america. my bigger point, here you have words from a racist creep and the whole world stops. then you get 300 pound men beating the absolute hell out of women and it's like hey it's cool. >> to hannah storm's point my daughter walking the dog is wondering why several people in this story still have their job and why they are not in jail. i had no answers for her. >> there is to be some people that are as shocked as i am. this is the first time in my entire lifetime that i did not see one play of one nfl game. i refused on principle.
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there has to be other people out there. >> if we're looking to the nfl for answers we're looking to the wrong people. if we expect them to lead the way for how we're supposed to handle a big issue which is domestic violence in our country -- >> don't you look at the catholic church to clean up their mess. >> they are the wrong people to look at too, joe, because they have been epically long. we're looking at pope francis to clean it up and he's met with six abuse victims. >> who do you look to? >> i don't know. we have to figure it out. there's hope in pope francis. the nfl, we can't look to ray rice and janay rice. they don't want to be the face of the nfl. janay rice and ray rice think he should still be playing. >> they handled it unfortunately now these cases have to be examples. maybe they could have been benched for a year and put into
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rehab. and maybe that would have helped actually keep this reaction from happening. but it's very clear they don't give a damn about mess abuse and they think it's okay. >> for us to look to them for ans to solve this won't happen. >> the tone is set from the top. you talk about the nba's response to donald sterling's racism. the commissioner was so forthright and so stern how inappropriate for one of their owners to behave that way. we haven't seen that from nfl. if we were to see that nfl would need to come up and take a much harder line. >> still ahead on "morning joe," we'll explain why actress danielle watts who standard in the blockbuster film "django"
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♪ >> let's take a look at the morning. frers the telegraph pope francis married 20 couples in the first mass wedding at the vatican in 14 years. even though the church considers sex outside of marriage a sin, one of the brides was already a mommy. some of the other couples were also living together before exchanging vows. the mass wedding comes three weeks before bishops will hold a meeting on the vatican's views on family issues. >> if you have a child -- >> what does that mean. >> you know what that means.
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>> what does that mean? >> that's how i learned about the birds and bees. and i said you did that twice? >> anyway. i have an older sister. the times of london, queen of england is warning scots to think carefully about the independence vote. >> that will soften up. >> they will decide whether the nation will permanently split from the uk. polls show the anti-independence movement has a slight lead. >> the "los angeles times," actress danielle wats claimed she was detained by lapd for a public display of affection. >> she was in "django." >> she's an actress in that movie. she claims she was handcuffed and put into a squad car after refusing to show her i.d. she was fully clothed and had done nothing wrong. police said they were responding to a call for indecent exposure.
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wats is lack. her husband is white. he said he believes police mistook his wife for a prostitute. >> okay. i'm confused. >> i think i get it. >> we need more information. >> you get that? >> ah-ha. >> profiling? what? >> yeah. >> okay. >> yeah. >> so the "new york daily news" after years of searching, a woman has found the owner of a wed fog to uncovered in 9/11 rubble. elizabeth keith posted the photo online with hope somebody would recognize the faces. social media came through when 68,000 retweets helped identify the owner. the image belonged to the man who was working on the 77th floor. >> "usa today," phillies pitcher was ejected from a game for
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making a lewd gesture to fans after he blew a save. he was ejected after he grabbed his crotch while walking off the field disorders the dug out as the crowd booed him. he gave up a career-high of four runs. after the game he had this to say. >> basically came over and said that i did an inappropriate gesture and i had no clue what he was talking about. that's when i got upset. >> okay. >> well, i think we all can judge whether that was inappropriate or not. >> hard turn for you. >> good luck. >> thank you, guys for this. >> seat belts on. go ahead. >> we'll move to foreign policy. how is that for a transition? >> very good. >> what a strange sports story. here with us now from washington the president on chicago council of global affairs and former ambassador to nato, today the
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survey is being released of american public opinion and u.s. foreign policy. thank you very much mr. ambassador for being with us. >> mr. ambassador there's some surprises in this survey. one seems to be that republicans aren't all neo-cons and democrats aren't all passivists. >> republicans and democrats have about the same view when it comes to the real big question we've been asking for 40 years which is whether or not the u.s. should have an active role in world afirst. indeed for the first time, a few points, democrats are more likely to say yes to that than republicans. six in ten in both cases. republican views have really changed over the past eight years. 20% in 2006 thought that the u.s. should stay out of world affairs. that's now doubled 240%. >> more democrats than republicans want america to be
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active in world affairs. and very interesting. >> what do you think is behind these trends, these numbers? >> the most important is the collapse in republican opinion with regard to the iraq and particularly the afghan war. in 2007 republicans thought that 85% of republicans thought that afghanist afghanistani war was worth the cost. it's down mid-20s. similar with iraq, about 70% of republicans thought the war was worth it in 2007, it's now down 240%. so you see a disillusionment within the republican party. >> southern like republicans, going back, i won't say to their isolationist strain let's say to their skepticism, all the way back to mr. republican senator taft? >> well, i think republicans are actually now becoming where democrats have been for a long time and indeed where
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independents are. they are more skeptical about the use of force particularly when it comes to large ground forces to deal with problems in the world. but i wouldn't say that they are necessarily against engagement. they are just not as gung ho as they used to be. >> ambassador, thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> fantastic. >> he's the president of the chicago council on global affairs which has these new numbers out. >> we're looking at papers here. redskins, man. rg3, man. it's not working out the way they thought rg3 would be working out. look at this on the "daily news." adrian peterson, obviously, jailed for whipping with a stick, a boy and here she is on the front. it's a sickness that's come over the nfl. >> yeah. >> hard to watch. >> i agree. coming up, wealthy and powerful.
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we'll take a closer look at roll calls new list of richest members of congress. she called her 2008 experience there quote excruciating. hillary clinton returns to iowa looking to get back into good graces with voters who could propel her into the white house. we'll hear from some young democrats who tell us they are a little bit skeptical about her potential candidacy.
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♪ it was her first trip to iowa since a disappointing 2008 finish but former secretary of state hillary clinton seemed to relish a return on sunday. >> she loved it. >> had a good time at the steak fry. >> only problem is people kept asking if she's running. >> she already is. she's running. she's in iowa. is it like a little game that goes on forever that both know is already played? here's nbc's andrea mitchell. >> hello, iowa!
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i'm back! >> reporter: returning to the state that many say dashed her white house hopes in 2008 hillary clinton came back for an iowa tradition, the harkin steak fry adding fuel to the speculation she will run again. >> it is true, i am thinking about it. but for today that is not why i'm here. i'm here for the steak. >> reporter: last time clinton was trounced bay freshman senator named barack obama. >> let me tell you, he sure loves iowa. >> reporter: but she didn't say she loves iowa. describing her third place finish in the state's caucuses as excruciating in her new book. clinton needs to prove she can run a different kind of campaign, say former obama supporters. >> it needs be more ground up. >> reporter: this time clinton
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organizers say they learned their lesson. bussing in volunteers from all over the country. >> where are you from? >> california. >> austin, texas. >> washington, d.c. >> reporter: clinton knows coming here will be hard to turn back. >> it's a great day. >> reporter: her husband is still not making predictions. >> if she wants to can she do it this time? >> i have nothing to say. it's not my decision. >> i think i know what you want to say. >> no, you don't. >> all right. man, hillary is running. >> joining us now -- she's in iowa the editor-in-chief of roll call. good to have you with us. you put together a great list for us. >> let's get to hillary. >> this reminds me when there's an encore of a concert. you want to be asked to run. you get everybody cheering. you say i'm not talking about it yet. like building up that good
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feeling inside. everybody knows she's running. >> exactly. is this a good thing? is this an encore you didn't want? >> for me it's a great story. fun to cover. i covered 2007, 2008. >> aren't you getting tired of this? >> we're often wrong which is kind of nice. there's some surprise. >> you're holding on to hope you're wrong maybe it's a big story that she's not running. >> or necessarily it's more of a contest or more in, the republican contest is more interesting. >> oh, my lord. you have more interesting to me roll calls list of richest members of congress. who is number one. >> darrell issa. >> he's worth $357 million. >> at least. so they have to give ranges. you could have a trust. you know these forms. so the forms allow to you say between 50 million and 100 million or unending range so
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that's why number two mike mccall is the richest member of congress but because he lists all of his assets in spouse's name you have the minimum level. >> richest guy in congress. >> used to be. he transferred his aseptembers to his spouse and the ranges are different. you get this minimum range. >> so, i say he made those -- >> the viper. step away. >> awesome. so this guy, how did he make his money? >> through his spouse. she's an owner in clear channel communications. >> i always tell joe you can make more money in ten minutes than working your whole life. i hope they listen to me. >> you're seeing fewer and fewer people that inherited their money like the trust fund members of congress. jarrett polis is investing in
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tech companies. >> i would have liked to be a trust fund baby. that's nice. instead of waking up at 4:00 a.m. every morning. who is next? i need to borrow some money. >> here we go. john delaney of maryland. we only had two republicans in the top ten. the rest are all democrats. you got rockefeller, mark warner, democrats actually are the minority on this list. there's 20 of them and 30 republicans, all white. everybody tonalist. >> rockefeller number four. he inherited his money. he's got 108 million. mark warner 95 million at least. where did mark warner make his money >> cell phones. whenever he gives campaign speeches still a cell phone goes off he says you hear annoying ring i hear cha-ching. >> he made his money on his own. >> yes. >> other names tonalist, joe
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kennedy iii, worth 20 million. kay haggen worth 9 million. how did she make her money? >> i have to look at the list. they all have to list lots of different things. >> they say bank robbery. >> stop, joe. >> i'm joking. >> their own investments, family trusts. lot of these members of congress have very few liabilities. maybe they list a mortgage and all the rest of it is held in giant mutual funds. they own traditional blue chip companies. >> thank you so much. fascinating list. >> we know who to borrow money from. >> a lot of rich people. >> up next, congress has been turning up the heat on the nfl but does the league have a plan that will keep lawmakers at bay. plus kanye west steps in it again. the awkward moment from his concert over the weekend. h
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♪ yes. >> that's one good looking rascal. >> look at this. a controversial moment captured from the fans here for kanye west. at his concert in australia. he ordered the crowd to stand and then stopped the show when not everybody complied. little did he know the fans he just shamed were disabled. >> stand up. >> stan up, stand up, stand up, stand up, stand up, stand up, stand up. >> there's two people left. two people that won't stand up.
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[ audience booing ] >> it's unbelievable. [ bleep ] >> he's in a wheelchair then that's fine. he in a wheelchair there? [ laughter ] is he in a wheelchair. he's in a wheelchair. okay. ♪ >> the concert gets going but the "daily mail" in australia post ad picture of a fan raising their pros at the thick leg to prove that they couldn't stand. people reports cania sent over his body guard to make sure the one fan in a wheelchair was actually disabled and needed to stay in it. >> what's wrong with him? >> i think he was trying to get
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the crowd up on its feet. it was an awkward moment that didn't go so well. >> awkward moments follow that guy around. that guy has kanye problems. >> yeah. >> he's got some serious -- >> i'm with you. >> serious, serious problems. >> i'm cringing. >> no. his life is just one big cringe worthy moment. >> let's turn back to something, away from kanye. >> any comments. >> no. let's leave it. >> i'm going back to the nfl because alan from the "new york times" doesn't think i've taken enough of a stand. so let me just say -- >> why doesn't the "new york times" stop putting the scores in there. >> let's not beat up on the "new york times." >> jeremy, the "new york times" opinion section was amazing yesterday. >> it was great. >> fascinating piece on the guy whose written a book now houston to actually enlist yourself to
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be able to have self-control. yes. i'm going to read that book. and the other study about marriage, the decline of marriage, amazing. >> the kids just aren't getting married. do you believe that? the kids aren't getting married any more. >> yeah. >> we'll do a segment on that. >> can we just say we have commented over the past year or so, that sometimes the sunday "new york times," we've commented among ourselves, that sometimes the sunday "new york times" has not been what it has been in the past. >> it totally is now. >> i got to say yesterday, especially -- >> the week before. >> it's really starting to -- >> i enjoyed reading it. i couldn't decide where to go. anyhow they should take a stronger stand against the nfl. there's growing criticism on capitol hill --
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>> the league has handled ray rice case. politico has learned exclusively that the league has a plan to appease congress. >> with us now mike allen. what it? >> reporter: they know they haven't led on domestic violence. they know they need to. they need reassure capitol hill and their fans. we're told very quickly they are going to announce the hiring of consultants and experts on domestic violence very much the way they brought in a lot of talent on player health and safety issues including concussions. second, they are also going to increase their inhouse staff on training and compliance, and third, they are going to add domestic violence awareness and prevention to the programs that they do down at the high school and college levels and maybe the biggest thing they have been looking for a new head for their washington office and we're told one of the leading candidates is someone who has been a leader on
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this issue, former counsel to vice president biden and was the senate staff, the director of the judiciary committee at the time of violence against women was passed 20 years ago. so someone who knows that issue and capitol hill knows. >> jeremy, what do you think about this? >> mike, i wonder if you're sensing any self-awareness building at the nfl that maybe it's slightly tone deaf to be paying lobbyists to talk to members of capitol hill about how nfl really isn't so bad right now at a time when they are under siege for this horrific domestic violence crisis. >> reporter: well, jeremy that's a great point. what they will tell you they do need to do things and not talk. that's why they are doing these awareness issues with the teams, with young people, saying we have a problem, admitting we have not led on this issue in the past but we need to. it's like with concussions they have a long way to go there too
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>> the man would changed everything is this. he looks a little bit like the villain in kindergarten cop. he has had seven goals in four games. the first man to score in his first four premier league games i think since 1863. and they are look like a complete team. they've got a perfect record. next week, they play manchester city, in a battle which is looking a bit like rocky balboa. >> let's talk about my team. i hold up a cup of bitter, bitter ale. >> when they found saddam hussein, they found him in his little rat hole and he had a romance novel and a liverpool mug down there. >> that's terrible. >> things were looking good after totenham a couple weeks ago. miserable showing yesterday. >> champions league football starts this weekend. they're trying to deepen their
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squad. they lost louie suarez, the man who bites people. it's a little like losing david caruso, "nypd blue" carried on just fine without him. they are second. >> can you believe that? >> i find it very, very hard -- come on, mika -- >> okay, how's liverpool going to end up? >> i think they'll be fine. >> top four? >> comfortable midtable. >> midtable. >> the big question is what you and i were -- >> i always set the date, i always go, and you always stand me up. are you going this year? >> big season, mika has liverpool as one of her top must-see cities. >> and who wouldn't? all right, weekly show, "men in blazers" airing next week on the nbc sports network. it will change your life. >> i love america. >> it's amazing.
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>> i love you too, scotland. >> coming up, "globe" columnist bob ryan. his take on nfl's domestic violence scandal and what many are saying is the worst week ever for the league. plus, the plan to defeat isis. top diplomats including john kerry meeting in paris for a strategy session. can the u.s. rely on the international community to your back? when laquinta.com sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! a "selling machine!" ready for you alert, only at lq.com. fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths.
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i spent this week answering seemingly impossible questions about the league's biggest stars. mom, why did he do that? why isn't he in jail? why didn't he get fired? and yesterday, why don't they even have control of their own players? and the nfl apparently seeing is believing. the ravens had to see that video to be moved to significant action, shouldn't those who support the league demand the same, to see action, to see the change? as we all wait on the answer to the central question. what exactly does the nfl stand for? >> boy, that was a great -- >> i don't know would could have put it better actually than hannah storm there asking that question as a mother. >> what do they stand for, mika? >> got the same questions from my daughter othver the weekend.
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we both sat there trying to figure out why there wasn't an arrest, why law enforcement didn't do their job, why the nfl repeatedly hid behind their, i guess, profits, to not do their job. >> can i ask also what do you think about women that wear the jerseys of men who have abused other women and children? >> do you want me to really say what i think? >> that's why i asked. >> i think they're stupid. i'm sorry. i think they're clearly -- shallow and not tuned in to the danger of promoting someone who has clearly assaulted another woman and caused a national conversation about domestic violence and shown an entire football league to be, quite frankly, at the very least, tone deaf, if not promulgating the problem by not doing anything about it. >> totally complicit.
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>> if you put on a ray rice jersey and jump around and think that's funny, i don't have a lot of other words, i'm sorry. i'm embarrassed when i see that, really embarrassed. to the news on this now. multiple sources tell nbc sports that ray rice will appeal his indefinite suspension for lying about what occurred in a casino elevator with his then fiance. rice is expected to say he told officials the truth. what did the nfl know or not know about the altercation is leading to growing calls for commissioner roger goodell to resign. a woman's advocacy group flew this banner that red #goodellmustgo over three nfl games on sunday. goodell still appears to have support from the league. dallas cowboys owner jerry jones says 100% of the owners are in goodell's corner. >> with us now from "the boston globe," he is a legend, bob ryan. the author of the upcoming book "scribe, my life in sports."
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bob, it's all right if we call you a legend? >> very flattering, thank you. >> come on, can't even take that at face value, think he's being sarcastic. so, bob, we're talking about -- shaughnessy was on earlier and said this was easily worst week in the history of the nfl, would you agree? >> yes, in a pr sense, and yet life went on as usual yesterday as i thought it would in terms of competition. let's just back all the way up here. before we start analyzing roger goodell and his future and that is this. this is america's sport of choice. this is the sport that is the single biggest unifying thread, you could argue, in american culture. the sunday afternoon ritual has become a part of life. if monday morning water cooler talk has become a part of life. and until people abandon this ritual by not attending games, by not watching games, by boycotting sponsors, this is all a lot of interesting idle
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conversation as far as i'm concerned. >> you don't see that happening, do you? you don't see any sponsors backing away, even a sponsor like cover girl? >> no, not yet, i don't see it. i think it's a very troubling league. i think if they can do the right things, if they follow through with all the, so far, empty rhetoric, about, oh, we're so concerned about concussionings. we're so concerned about domestic violence. we're so concerned with duis. and follow through with really harsh, draconian punishment. >> bob, while we have you here, the general manager of the minnesota vikings say quote, all options are on the table for adrian peterson, the star run back was booked and released after being indicted for al allegedly abusing his 4-year-old son.
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on espn, hall of famer cris carter gave an extremely emotional and personal statement to condemn child abuse. >> my mom was wrong. she did the best she could, but she was wrong about some of that stuff she taught me. and i promised my kids, i won't teach that mess to them. you can't beat a kid to make them do what you want them to do. >> that is correct, thank you. >> thousands of things we have learned since then. now we're to the point, the only thing i'm proud about is the team that i played for. they did the right thing. take him off the field. i don't care -- we in a climate right now, i don't care what it is, take him off the dog gone field because as a man that's the only thing we really respect. >> former nba star charles barkley was outspoken as he tried to defend peterson against those child abuse allegations. >> i'm from the south. whipping, we do that all the
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time. every black parent in the south is going to be in jail under those circumstances. i think we have to be careful letting people how they -- dictate how they treat their chi children -- >> doesn't matter where you from, right is right, wrong is wrong -- >> listen, we spank kids in the south. the question about, did he go overboard. listen, we all grow up in different environments. listen, eithvery black parent iy neighborhood in the south would be in trouble under those circumstances -- >> did you see the pictures? i mean, no, every child in the south doesn't do that. peterson could face up to two years behind bars if convicted. bob we start the week with ray rice. then of course the attention turns to greg hardy who has already been convicted of abuse, abusing a woman. then ray mcdonald of course. people start focusing on him. and then friday afternoon, as if
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roger goodell's nightmare couldn't get worse, child abuse charges coming out of texas. i mean, when it rains, it pours. should we expect more stories like this as more and more people start coming out? >> if people do -- an investigation, they might uncover -- unearth a lot of things about people. i believe there was something like 40 documented instances of domestic abuse that are circulating among the nba population -- >> i thought it was 56, let me check -- >> thank you, that's a frightingly large percentage. a violent game played by violent people in a culture that rewards their behavior. i mean, that's a fact. this is the talent pool, unfortunately. and once again, we go back to what we were talking about at the outset here. does the american sporting public, the football-loving, gambling, football-loving, fantasy league-loving population, do they ultimately get so horrified by this that
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they stop participating. we're not even close to that. >> you were a sports writer for over four decades. you obviously have a better grasp on this than anybody sitting around this table. we've been talking about the culture in the nfl. you remember probably about a decade ago, maybe it was less than that, espn was going to have an original series about the lifestyles of nfl players. didn't paint a flattering picture. espn of course -- nfl killed it. part of it had to do with the misogyny in the nfl. every league has different cultures. is there a culture of abuse in the nfl towards women or misogyny towards women, based on your over four decades of experience? >> i think there's a cavalier attitude towards women in their lives. that they're sex objects, number one. for far too many -- i'm not saying the majority, but for far too many, women exist solely to
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satisfy their carnal desire and no conversation needed afterward. the nfl out there is taking the heat because it's the season. there's another league out there who have players involved in these very things, the national basketball association. will undergo scrutiny, i can promise you that. >> it's one of the -- mika, you brought it up earlier actually, that you have an owner in the nba say some absolutely hateful racist thing, but says hateful racist things -- >> that a girlfriend taped. >> that a girlfriend taped, and the entire nba just stopped, stopped on a dime. players were playing with their jerseys inside out. sponsors said they were going to leave, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and the nfl, you have these men would -- >> and he no longer owns the team -- >> twice as large as the women they beat up and abuse. and in san francisco, you actually had a player who was arrested for beating up his pregnant fiance, who had bruises
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all othver her, and life goes o >> it does, although that very specious -- just completely laughable last-second decision by the panthers not to play greg hardee yesterday after they finally responded to the outrage and the roar of the crowd and the american public. they finally decided for reasons it would be best for them not to play him. talk about an 11th hour and 59th minute decision that was finally the right thing to do. they're coming slowly to grips with their reality in american society and how people -- but i still come back to this. when you see those people wearing those jerseys -- that woman in minnesota who was not only wearing an adrian peterson jersey but was carrying a switch and was so happy to have her picture taken -- >> wow. >> the rest of us are sitting here with our mouths open. who are these people? >> who are these people? it's sick. >> it leads to the question.
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look at this panel right here. two women on it. are we led to believe by the conversation we've heard all morning that nothing's really going to happen? >> caddie. >> i mean, mika, exactly my question. we heard mike allen talking about what the nfl's lobbyists are doing with congress at the moment and the proposals in terms of education, that kind of thing. you know, i get back to that point, when is zero tolerance going to be the nfl's position? i don't know. it seems to me we're a very long way from that. this is decades. can the nfl get to the position where there is zero tolerance and it starts to lead in society by example on any kind of violence against women? i don't think we should be calling this domestic violence. i think it gives the nfl, legal authorities in our country some kind of an excuse to hide behind some idea that this is in a
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marriage and therefore it's not our business. this is violence. this is violence against women. >> well put, ccatty, thank you very much. we want to get to some other news. a vote expected on a u.s. plan to arm and train syrian rebels in the fight against isis. several arab powers say they'll help strike militant targets from the air. but putting together a combat force on the ground, far more challenging. so far, commitments from overseas are vague, with concerns the military campaign could end up helping the syrian government and, in turn, its supporters in iran. secretary of state john kerry is in paris looking for efforts to build the coalition to fight in syria. the murder of a british citizen other t over the weekend could drive the
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uk. germany has been insistent it will arm kurdish fighters but not take part in air strikes. so far, australia has agreed to send 600 troops to the region. france, meanwhile, is vowing to conduct air strikes. as reuters report, saudi arabia, turkey, jordan, egypt, are unlikely to take the lead in military operations. while a majority of americans back the administration's push for action, nearly 70% lack confidence the u.s. will accomplish its goals. fewer than 4 in 10 approve of the president's foreign policy. >> by the way, catty kay, i think we will accomplish our short-term goal of destroying isis. we met him earlier from the foreign affairs committee. and i think he put it great. we've either got to decide or we've got isis in syria. a lot of people want to say, no, wait, maybe we can thread the needle -- no, it's assad or isis. we may not like that result at
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the end of the day, but that's the result that we're -- thing we're stuck with, unfortunately. >> i think to u.s. international security interests right now, isis presents the bigger threat and the american public has picked up on that but, you know, i think this idea that you can go and do air strikes and rapidly defeat the islamic state is erroneous. this is a very long-term game plan that the united states has to commit itself to. i understand why opinion polls have changed because of the beheading of two americans and now a brit as well. if we act out of just a sense of short-term vengeance or short-term anger, we're not going to -- >> i think we're actually -- >> -- this is not going to be done by just a -- >> and think the short-term expression of anger is exactly what terrorists want, because they want to breed more hatred. they want to say, see, see, and they'll get that example.
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wa what's the talk on capitol hill? >> this is congress, right, it always defies easy prediction. when we talked to matt salmon earlier, he hinted at something that's going to be a real wild card this week. there are a number of republicans, hawkish republicans, who want to see a vote for a broader use of force authorization. they don't think the resolution from 2003 is good enough. they want to see something -- a new vote on that. and that is going to complicate -- >> will that give the president more authority? >> but it's unclear to me whether or not that could pass both houses of congress. because you'll have a lot of democrats who won't go there. >> wouldn't that be fascinating if you had the republicans wanting to give the president of the united states more authority and you have democrats standing in the way of that? >> well, it would be. that's why i think, as i said, congress always defies prediction. i think going into this week, there's a lot of uncertainty about what kind of support congress gives the president and
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whether or not the vote to authorize what the president has asked for, which is a much more limited, kind of half step measure, is in jeopardy, and i think it could be. >> and the killing of that british citizen follows the murders. and sotloff family spokesman says the reporter's parents felt threatened by a top u.s. official would said they could be prosecuted if they tried to ransom to free their son. james foley mother recalled a similar incident who said she was, quote, horrified about the government warning. white house chief of staff mcdonough was asked about it. >> i can only imagine the difficult circumstances the families are going through. my heart goes out to them and my prayers are with then obviously. in terms of what was communicated to the families in the midst of many, many meetings over the course of this very difficult circumstance, we obviously made clear what the
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law is. we didn't threaten anybody but we made clear what the law is. that's our responsibility, to make sure we explain the law and uphold the law. >> boy. you -- you can't threaten a family. >> no. >> with prosecution -- >> well -- >> if they're trying to free their son, can you? >> no, but i think there's also a very firm argument about ransoms, but one that would fall completely flat on a set of parents whose child was in the middle of that. so it sounds like an impossible conversation. sounds like an impossible conversation. >> i don't think you threaten families. >> of course not. >> i don't think you threaten families that are trying to save their son. >> no, and if someone said, i'm going to prosecute you -- i'd say, i dare you. >> if you choose to save your son's live by paying a ransom, you know, seriously it's not the united states government that's -- that's dealing with terrorists, that's an individual
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who's dealing with terrorists. i just don't think you shouldn't say that he understands what they're going through because he doesn't understand what they're going through. >> i don't think any of us can. that's what struck me. we'll follow this more. comie ing up on "morning jo hbo takes a page from netflix. why the entertainment giant is looking to cut the koord when it comes to cable. plus, is iowa ready for hillary? we're going to go live to des moines where we'll talk to casie hunt. she has to report on hillary clinton's appearance at the event without mentioning hillary clinton's name. good luck. it's not rocket science, right? turns out, it might be. the space-age gladdet ettgadget save thousands. first, big karens with the first cast. >> about one hour away from the sun up in cabo san lucas where we'll find what the effects were of a category 3 hurricane when
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the eye went right over the resort city overnight. we're hearing reports it is devastating. a lot of hotels, portions of them have reported collapsed, glass all over, a lot of problems. these were the pictures right before the storm moved in, before sunset last night. again it made landfall at about 10:45 local time there in cabo san lucas. everyone was forced to stay in the ballrooms, like you're seeing there, as the storm went through. you had 125-mile-per-hour winds when it went through. it still has winds around 110 to 115. it will weak be over the baja peninsula. then some of that rain will move over to arizona and new mexico. remember, we just had flooding from hurricane norbert recently. it feels like winter in new england. should be a nice afternoon though. when we get those pictures in though from cabo and the devastation, we'll be sure to bring those to you.
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at least 1,000 calories a day but with the help of ben & jerry's, he seems to have gotten his appetite back, even exceeding the calorie requirement. officials say his condition continues to improve. i wish someone would tell me to do that. >> why don't you do that? >> i used to, believe me, like a gallon. >> "guardian," hbo is considering a streaming service without a cable subscription. looking to allow internet users to buy a subscription to the popular hbo go, which is similar to other services like netflix or amazon. this news comes asp experts predict the future of cable tv is dependent on how these companies learn to use the internet. apparently a lot of people who have hbo, like kid, use their parents hbo go information -- >> really? >> yeah. i know some people on our staff that do that. >> really. "usa today," a new tool might help motivate people who have a
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hard time working out, jo. >> yeah, it's me. >> the jobra allows users to have a personal trainer. it tests your heart rate and offers multiple modes the trainer can coach you through. the headphones go on sale next month. people, could you just go outside and run? >> just run? >> all these contraption. >> i need more voices in my head. >> whatever. thomas what you got? >> the anchorage daily news, a source close to the palin family is speaking out with an account of the drunken brawl that broke out at the party the weekend before last. >> this good stuff. >> police in alaska confirm sarah palin and family were present at the event. but a source says they didn't start it. >> huh-uh, they started it, not us. >> the palin family says the fight began when track palin was confronted by his sister willow's ex-boyfriend. >> this is such a reality show.
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>> love it. >> the source adds that todd palin came to the aid of his son. track apparently surred four cracked ribs, which is hard for me to say, during that fight. police say the fight involved about 20 people and they are still reviewing the case. >> my goodness. a couple of things on the front page of "the new york times," very fascinating. one is a conservative revolt in kansas. a state that doesn't have a single democrat elected statewide. right now, sam brownback, a guy woz be who's been a friend of mine, in big trouble. tax cuts being blamed for a massive deficit out there. and then also florida state students are facing hurdles. and it appears that now florida state is coming under the microscope. remember, last year the heisman trophy winner was accused of sexually assaulting a student
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and it got sort of brushed to the side by the d.a.'s office and right before the national championship game, they said, don't worry about it, nothing to see here. "the new york times" has dug in and florida student assaults, there's an added burd en on accusers. >> it's a really good story. one other story. so hillary clinton is running for president. she made that more clear by stopping by the iowa steak fry -- >> no, no, no, she didn't. >> no, she did. >> but she says she's -- she doesn't know if she's going to. >> we're not going to be one of those shows that plays that game. >> how do we know? >> she's running. she's gone to iowa. she's written a book. she does events. let's just stop with this. hillary clinton is running for president. >> they grilled em, i thought they fried -- >> just grilled. only grilled. >> she's getting a second chance to -- >> ben & jerry's eye creice cre.
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>> nbc's kasie hunt is covering it all. >> reporter: in 2008, hillary clinton left iowa in defeat. it took her seven years to come back. >> say hello to everybody in dubuque for me. >> reporter: on sunday, she sounded ready for another round. >> well, it is true, i am thinking about it. but for today, that is not why i'm here. i'm here for the steak. >> reporter: she and president clinton were attending senator harken's final steak fry, officially to help iowa democrats in the midterms but it feels like a presidential campaign. >> hillary clinton and president clinton are now the comeback
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couple in america. >> reporter: it would be quite a comeback. >> tomorrow night, future of the free world is riding on your shoulders. don't feel any pressure. >> reporter: in 2008, she lost to president obama and john edwards. she called the experience excruciating. >> you have done what the sin i ices cynic, sas said we couldn'. >> reporter: there are still questions. will clinton be a better candidate. has the democratic party moved too far to her left. >> i think she's going to have to come and tell us what her message is and give iowaens a chance to determine that. >> hillary clinton is too closely aligned with the banking industry and i think she's not inspiring enough. >> reporter: in all, more than 5,000 people came to say farewell to harkins steak fry and to catch a glimpse of what
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could be a new beginning for hillary clinton in iowa. >> it's really great to be back. let's not let another seven years go by. >> okay. i mean, i've already said what i've said. >> let's not let another seven years go by. the people of iowa would not allow her to actually come, they wouldn't give her -- wait a second, she decided to stay away for seven years. >> what's your big takeaway from the steak fry? >> as you were saying, it's pretty clear she's putting herself on the path to running. i also think that it's a question how she would be ske h received in iowa. there was a lot of excitement in the crowd about her. she polls overwhelmingly favorably here. that said, she still has some questions to answer, especially in a state where voters really demand a lot of careful time and attention from their candidates. and she would have to be back
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here. there's a question about whether or not she would even compete here. this is not a place that was very kind to her last time. she didn't really enjoy getting into the nitty-gritty here. they turned out more voters to support her, then, you know, it would have won almost any other caucus. but up against obama, they couldn't get over the hump. >> kasey hunt, thank you very much. does this guy look presidential or what? >> oh, look at him, chiseled -- >> thank god lewis didn't go in there. senator john thune joins us. it's monday, a brand new start. with centurylink visionary cloud infrastructure, and custom communications solutions,
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live look at capitol hill. republican senator from south dakota, our friend, senator john thune. good to have you on the set with us. nice to have you in town. >> yeah. >> kind of want your take on the nfl hunt, then we'll get to isis. the nfl stands by its leader. if you want to understand why goodell's job is almost
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certainly safe, this is why. the only people wouho can fire m are the 32 nfl owners. they have zero interest in letting him go. he makes them money. currently, the nfl takes in about $10 billion overall. goodell has told them he wants to make it $25 billion business by the year 2027. you can practically see their mouths watering at the prospect. is that what it comes down to? what's your gut on what you think should happen here? >> what should congress do? we understand the nfl from politico is hiring the lobbyists. telling you guys, hey, everything's okay, nothing to see here. does congress need to look into this? >> we'll see. i think right now they're launching their own investigation. which i credit them for doing. probably should have been done a long time ago. they've got to fix it, you know, these are people who -- young kids in this country look up to. these are -- these are individuals who are paid
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enormously well for what they do. i think the nfl has got to deal with this and confront it in a more direct way than they have so far. or they're going to lose the confidence of the american people, no matter how popular the game is. and a lot of young kids who look up to these guys. >> what's their plan,er er ine forget this is a two-front war. isis is the external enemy and sectarianism is the story. we keep making this story about us, about obama, about what we do. it is not about us. it is about them and who they want to be. it's about a pluralistic region that lacks pluralism and needs to learn how to coexist. it's the 21st century. it's about time. how do we do that? >> -- can't teach them to go over and hug each other. are you going to give the president the authority -- matt was on earlier talking about the need, on the house, to expand
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the authority from 2003. what do you think the senate should do? >> there's some republicans in the house and senate, but also some democrat, wouho want to ha that broader debate about the authorization, the use of a military force beyond the training of the syrian rebels. the answer is yes. i think the president will get what he wants. he'll have a lot of support from republicans. but by and large i think you're going to have a big bipartisan vote in both the house and senate in support of the authorization, which, as i said, is limited to the training of the rebels at this point. >> do you think the president is going to get what he wants in terms of what we've seen so far? >> i hope so, mika. i'm interested to hear, like you are, we're hearing a lot of ambiguous commitments. >> partnerships -- >> i think it's important. i think it need to be a coalition. otherwise, it's going to be awfully hard to sell this there and at home. >> jeremy. >> my sense from talking to republicans on capitol hill is
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there's been this deep mistrust of the president throughout his term, right, but what you have here is an issue on foreign affairs. an issue that highlights his deep mistrust of world view. what percentage of conservatives in the house and senate are going to say no to the president? >> well, i think there will be -- there will be some, jeremy, for the reasons you just mentioned. like the american people. even though they support action, which the polls out this morning demonstrate. there's still a lack of confidence that it will succeed. i think part of that has to do with people aren't confident in the president's leadership on these important issues. i think by and large, you'll see a big vote in the congress for this, because i think both sides recognize something has to be done. we've got to rally the world behind us. >> we reap what we sow.
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the president inherited a situation from president bush. whether the next president will inherit the situation from president obama. how do we plant the positive seeds of what we need to see with generations to come with the current situation in isis? if we just drop bombs on them and try to stomp them out, we know other terrorist organizations just like them are going to rise up. >> i think that's why it's so important this be led or at least partnered with folks from the region. you've got to have the saudis, the jordanian, the turks and others involved in this effort. if it becomes a u.s. effort, you've sold some really bad seeds for the future. and i think not only the near term but in the long term. we may stamp this out in the near term, but we've got all kinds of problems in the long term, unless people on the ground are willing to take the initiative for themselves and win this for themselves.
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>> very powerful. >> look how good looking these people are. robert, thune and peters. like models. >> a law firm. >> a law firm made up of all really hot male models. and thune, i'm a slob, thune can just break chairs in half. >> i've seen that. that happened right in front of me. i don't know what was going on. >> that was all done for your benefit. >> oh, my god, good stuff. senator john thune, thank you so much. still ahead think of it as kind of a digital seat belt. the gadget that could save thousands and thousands of lives joins us next. we asked people a question,
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time for business before the bell with cnbc's steve wpner. >> there's word over the weekend, aab miller, the world's number two beer company, approached heineken, the world's number three, about a deal. heineken, still family controlled, said no thank you, we'd like to remain as we are, independent. now there's word this morning that anheuser-busch in bev, the largest beer company in the world, is thinking about doing a deal with sab miller, has even talked to some banks about financing what would be a $122 billion deal. bringing together the number one and number two beer companies in the world. so that's really interesting when you think about global if the prifootprints and the brand
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that would be under one umbrella. and the other story i love, warren buffett, the oracle of omaha, is out in vegas at the mgm grand for the fight. he's never placed a bet in a sports book before. he sees that nebraska is only favoreded by 12 points over fresno state, says wait a minute, i'm the oracle of omaha, i know nebraska is going to win by more than 12 points. he puts 550 bucks down on nebraska. about 40 other guys see him at the window, go up there and say, i'll have what he's doing, i'm going to do the same exact bet. long story short, nebraska blows out fresno state, warren buffett wins his money, along with everybody else. >> we're seeing him thursday, we're going to detroit. >> i need to ask him about -- >> he's going to be on the show. >> his betting sequence, ways h what's his bet of the week.
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he's making money for everybody. >> just a little bit richer this morning. >> we will ask the oracle himself about that. >> buy some scratchoff tickets while we're in detroit. >> more than a quarter of car accidents in the u.s. are caused by drivers using cell phone s ad you know that texting is incredibly tempting. it's easy to judge people who text and drive. there is an invention that's trying to change that. take a look. >> say hello to groove. as features in "the new york times," groove is an app that literally stops things like e-mails, texts and social media posts from reaching your phone when you're behind the wheel, while still letting you jam out to the tunes on your phone. then, as soon as you're out of your car, any social media posts or messages sent your way while you were driving are instantly delivered to you. because god forbid you miss that
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update about what your girlfriend's brother had for lunch. >> exactly. god forbid. brilliant. >> if 1 out of 4 accidents and a lot of deaths occur because of this, why wouldn't automakers put this in every car and what -- >> i've got the answer for you. here with us now from denver, the man would invented the groove, scott tibets. it seems like such a good idea. i want one. i want one in my car. for my daughter, for me. i do. ways t ways t what's the problem? >> the issue, in order for there to be a solution with automakers, it needs everybody involved. it needs the automakers. it needs technology. so it's not as simple as putting an app on the phone. it's a more wholistic solution. >> i can understand why a lot of
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automakers wouldn't do it unless everybody was in there. we've had these discussions, every decade, a lot of people pushed back on seat belts. we got seat belts in. millions saved. the same thing with air bags. 1 in 4 accidents are caused by texting, your cell phones. it seems like a pretty easy regulation to deal with, right? >> you would think. it does take all these technologies coming together. they're understanding when people are driving and sending the signal to the carriers so they can lessen distractions. so we're getting there. it isn't something that happens in months. it's something that takes years to knit that altogether. >> the idea came up when scott was going to a meeting and one of the engineers didn't show up because he was hit by a driver who was texting. so the concept comes out of a real experience. i hope it flies.
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i really do. i hope to have one in my car. scott tibets, thank you so much. to learn more about scott's invention, visit indygogo.com. visit afternoon mojoe.com for that. >> i won't go into too many details, i actually drive longer, take a longer route home, because i want a road that's wider, that's straight, that doesn't wind through where a teenager on a cell phone -- or anybody on a cell phone, could be turning around the corner and i get hit. i mean that is something that we all have to be worried about. >> countless data on this. it seems obvious. we'll be right back. a hero homebound for a new opportunity. a kitchen that kick starts careers wells fargo invests in our communities a little differently.
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hey, it's time for my favorite part of the show. >> why did mika leave? >> because it's this part of the show. boy, i really love this. i wait all morning. louis, you got to do the turn. ladies and gentlemen. here's louis burgdorf. >> jay z possibly hinted that beyonce is pregnant with their second child. this happened during a performance in paris.
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jay z's song, "the beach is better." repeatedly changed the lyric to "pregnant with another one." we'll have to wait and see what happens with this one. >> you have any stories about paris hilton? >> i do. >> so mika's off the set. she can't tear anything up. let's do a story on paris hilton. >> the paris hilton front. the socialite has a new puppy. tmz reporting that hilton spent $13,000 of her hard earned dollars on allegedly the world's smallest pomeranian. stands 2 1/2 inches tall. just arrived in los angeles from calgary to meet his new owner. i bet he flew first class. >> that is the cutest little dog. paris hilton -- >> amazing. >> yes, mr. amazing. >> coming up next, what, if anything, did we learn.
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>> where is he? what's wrong with you? >> mr. amazing. >> what did you learn? >> this is a lesson that repeats itself throughout my career. there is nothing for which "the new york times" will not be blamed. >> oh. >> and domestic violence. what have you learned? >> hillary clinton has a new stamp on her passport to iowa, fresh. >> hey, let her in. seven years. >> i'm not good enough, just go. i learned that apparently i have to go quit to make the nfl do something on domestic violence. >> that was really weird. >> it was weird. >> a weird thing. >> kind of weird. thank you. what's that guy's name again? >> i don't remember. alan. no, he should come back. i don't get it. if it's way too early, what time is it? >> it's time for "morning joe." but stick around, "daily rundown" is next.
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