>> every single one of us is going to be measured by what we do in order to guarantee that happens. >> and will the united kingdom stay, well, united? 4.2 million scots cast their ballots in an historic vote today. we start with another tape from the terrorist group isis. in a third day of testimony by white house cabinet members on the hill. the tape, which we can't show you at the moment is of john cantly. in the tape, which looks like sort of a bizarre lecture, no desert, just a dark backdrop, cantly says while he's a prisoner he's speaking because he and american hostages have been abandoned by their governments while unnamed european countries have paid to get their prisoners back. it's a new approach by the terrorist group in no small part because the video does not end with cantly shown beheaded. it comes a day after isis/isil

distributed what looked like a movie trailer. all of this as the senate at this hour debates a house bill that would fund u.s. training and arming of so-called moderate syrian rebels. and as the secretaries of defense and state head back to the hill to make the administration's case for war to two separate house committees the day after the full house already voted on the bill. and while it might not seem like it, there are still some skeptics. >> i find it pretty disturbing that we are having this hearing after we've taken a vote because i don't think that the plan that i have seen was detailed enough to make me believe that your plan will work. >> it's not just who you destroy, it's who you empower. and isis' most powerful opponents, at least today, are nearly as evil as isis and perhaps more dangerous. >> democratic senator ben carden of maryland serves on the senate

foreign relations committee. and are you among the skeptics? your colleagues including congressman loretta sanchez says it doesn't make any sense to have a hearing after a vote. do you agree with that? >> well, joy, first of all, the administration's been briefing us on their strategies. i think there's a strong support in the congress that isil is a terrorist organization that's barbaric and required that action be taken in order to protect u.s. interests that the president's plan with the strategic air strikes in iraq is correct in arming and training the syrian vetted opposition that the support for that. i think we will get into further debate as to the appropriateness of additional military action, and i think congress will need to deal with that on a different authorization bill. but i think today the overwhelming majority of members of congress are supporting taking action against isil, this

barbaric terrorist group. >> what about the point also made. and i should have said congress woman loretta sanchez. what about the point it is important who you empower not just who you kill. are you confident, sir, we know exactly who we are arming and training and that when we then step back that those same people will not turn on u.s. forces? >> well, i am very committed to make sure there are not americans that are going to be doing ground combat in this region. that's my principal concern. our best chance for ground support to deal with isil and syria is the vetted opposition. and, yes, we know who they are, and we are confident that the way that we will provide this aid will assist us not only in dealing with isil, but also providing an opposition capacity within syria itself. >> let me play what your colleague senator rand paul had to say on the senate floor minutes ago. take a listen, please. >> so, yes, we must now defend

ourselves from these jihadists, but let's not compound the problem by arming feckless rebels in syria who seem to be merely a pit stop for weapons that are really on their way to isis. >> i mean, senator, it's not lost on a lot of people that this group is mixed together with rebels that were fighting the assad government. we say we don't want to be a part of that. we armed the entire iraqi army, and when they went out, they abandoned all the weapons we gave them, all of the humvees, and then those wound up be given to isis. we can't be sure those weapons won't end up in the hands of isis terrorists. how should we be so sure that rebels a few months ago we were saying ad hoc group of farmers and local people in town are exactly the people that we want to be handing over american weapons to. >> first of all, joy, it's not correct to say the opposition is united. they're not. the vetted opposition that we're working with or the moderate

opposition to believe in a syria that represents all of the communities, the isil forces are not part of that group. we vet this very carefully. but the clear choice here is that we need to have -- there needs to be a ground capacity in syria to deal with isil. and it's not going to be the united states. so our best opportunity right now is to deal with the vetted opposition who we've been working with for a couple of years. this is not a new alliance. working with them a couple years. we want to have this group empowered to also deal with the growing threat of isil. >> and what happens if, for instance, one of the american fighter jets that's providing air support were to, let's say, go down in syria? what if we were to have the need to have more troops go in just to rescue our own forces? is it -- is there any way to stop an escalation that does wind up with greater war and with actual, well, these boots are on the ground, even if they're special forces. but with the expansion of the

war. >> i think it's a great question. and that's not today's vote. today's vote deals with arming and equipping, not authorizing air strikes in syria. that's a separate issue that i have serious concerns about. and i would hope the congress would take up a separate authorization. chairman menendez mentioned we will bring this up. i mentioned it in yesterday's hearing with secretary kerry. today's vote deals with arming and training, it does not deal with u.s. military involvement, including air strikes. that's not part of today's action. >> and senator carden, if this is as important as these multiple trips from the secretaries of state and defense would seem to indicate it is, wouldn't it have made more sense for the congress, the house and senate to take these up as individual items and not to tuck them into a continuing resolution? >> i was fine taking them up individually. i think we have responsibility, and i'm always for giving members an opportunity to express themselves. so i can't -- the process issues between the house and the senate, particularly on these challenging days where we're not

always together. i leave that to our leadership. >> all right. we'll leave it there. senator ben carden, thank you. thank you very much. let's go to a live look at the white house where right now president obama is meeting with ukrainian president. >> mr. speaker, the president of ukraine. >> earlier today asking for additional economic and military aid to bolster a five-month effort against pro-russian rebels in eastern ukraine. >> no doubt our victory would be very close. i'm absolutely sure that united states made a commitment that it would stand behind ukraine's territorial integrity. and we hope it will live up to that promise. >> nbc white house correspondent chris jansing live in d.c. chris, what was the result of that rare joint session appearance by mr. poroshenko?

>> well, they have just gone in. and we're going to hear from them. he says we will hear from both of the presidents when they come out. look, first of all, the united states is going to provide $46 million in new security assistance to ukraine's military. but what we know what poroshenko said. he wants legal aid to help his country. and it's clear the united states is not willing to provide that. they are willing to provide some of the military equipment. they also have $7 million set aside for humanitarian aid. next year, we should see in fiscal 2015 another authorization for ukraine, joy, $350 million for some pretty heavy duty military antitank, antiarmor, weapons programs, ammunition. some very sophisticated radar programs. but when i asked josh ernest a

short time ago what would the president say if president p poroshenko said this is what i need. you can't win a war with blankets. he said he did not want to characterize what that conversation might be like. hep didn't want to characterize whether or not knowing president obama was not ready to provide it if president poroshenko should ask it in that form. we'll have to wait and see what they have to say, joy. >> all right. thank you very much. nbc's chris jansing, appreciate it. and polls close in just under three hours in scotland's independence vote. we'll get a live report from the uk. and we'll explain why what happens across the pond affects you. plus, another account of domestic abuse that has the nfl doing even more damage control today. ed a lift?

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welcome back. in less than three hours, polls close in scotland where voters are choosing whether to remain part of the 307-year-old union with england, wales and northern ireland known as the united kingdom or choose independence. turnout is expected to be high for the nation of 5 million people with some analysts expecting more than 85% of those eligible to vote. even scotland's biggest celebrities are choosing sides with 2013 wimbledon champ andy murray joining the likes of sean connery in the vote yes campaign. with the vote no getting the biggest support, not to mention a check worth about $1.6 million from j.k. rowling. so take the temperature a bit for us, jim, what are we expecting today?

>> hi, joy, well, emotions certainly in scotland are spiking on both sides. reports of friends, even family members split over how to vote with the three hours or so left to do so. and these people are aware that this is not a rehearsal. this is choice. could last for generations. i think here in london, britain -- the brits you speak to are in a state of denial. they can't even conceive of a great britain without scotland and are choosing not to deal with it hoping that the no for independence camp wins. very few rallies here, banners, things are going pretty much as normal in england. there's no question that a yes vote has britain on edge, given the huge implications, perhaps no one's more anxious than prime minister david cameron who has admitted publicly to breaking out in cold sweats these days. and he could be thinking he may go down in history as the

british leader who lost the union. now, if it's a win for the yes camp, edinburgh in london have 18 hours to sort out so much of this so-called divorce. it's tricky, complex things like the currency of an independent scotland, divvying up the national debt, the north sea oil production, which by the way, is 90% is in scottish waters. then there's scotland's membership in the european union, in nato. even optimists say it'll take years to sort all of this out if at all. meanwhile, banks and big businesses in scotland are so nervous that even the royal bank of scotland, joy, has made plans to come back here to london in case of a "yes" vote to protect its dposz sit. that's it. in the united states, i didn't even realize, joy, that investors in the united stat states -- >> of course. >> were nervous, because the united states invests so much in scotland. and they're worried about the

economy tanking. so there you go. >> yeah. lots and lots of implications. thanks very much. thank you. and now, for more on the vote and its implications for the u.s. and europe. and here with me in studio, senior european correspondent. let's go through it. it seems to me the big issues and we heard jim touch on them a little bit, are oil, what to do about that. nukes, because, of course, they're located on the scottish side. and then jobs because, of course, that nuclear program is tied to employment. what are the biggest implications? and are any of those things factoring one or way or another yes or no? >> all of those are factoring in. i think the biggest thing that the no campaign that wants to keep the united kingdom united is about the currency. and this is the big question and the debate back and forth there is that the yes campaign wants to keep the pound. have a eurozone, a sterling zone, if you will. the rest of uk does not want to share the pound with scotland. so if scotland were to vote to

be independent, what currency it uses -- >> right. >> is up for debate. it's a fundamental part of an economy. >> yeah. >> this is just an incredible amount of uncertainty. >> and could that impact you as investors? i'm assuming yes. >> when we find out tomorrow which way it goes, you would expect big moves either up or down. >> yeah. i want to show this map of the united kingdom which is sort of a little trivia here, the united kingdom is, of course, scotland, england and wales plus northern ireland. a little trivia for you. so without scotland, you're talking about a third of the land mass of the united kingdom being gone. if we could show ourselves the united kingdom without scotland. look at how much it shrinks. you've had issues with europe in general but with the uk dying down in terms of the military, military readiness, drawing down the total number of troops. if, in fact, these two were to split, what implications would that have for the nuclear deterrent and military.

>> all of the uk's nukes and these nuclear subs are in scotland. if scotland were to vote to secede, they say that they do not want that there. >> they want to be nuclear free. >> exactly. >> so the process of moving those nukes south would probably distract the uk from any number of other ways they would spend on defense. so they would be very internally focused there and what that means for the fight against isis and other things. it means uk will be distracted, not a reliable ally, let's say, because it will be so wrapped up in its own internal affairs and moving nuclear subs is no small task. >> and there's the economic implementati implementation. something like 11,000 jobs tied to that. could it hurt? there are economists right now who seem to agree this is a bad economic deal for scotland if they were to walk away. >> that's right.

the markets are almost universally against scotland going independent when you see the yes camp rise then stocks tend to fall and vice versa. >> how does the yes camp answer these questions? economists are very clear, they're saying it would be a bad idea. >> it's scare mongering, it's fear, it's trying to fool the scottish people. that's how they're dismissing it. because, again, the no camp has banged on so much about what currency you're going to use. and it's so relentlessly negative. that's probably the biggest mistake, they haven't presented a positive message. they call themselves better together. they don't say no. they say no, thanks. but still, the yes campaign. it's going to be interesting to see what happens. >> they say no, thanks, because they're british and very polite. >> of course. >> will david cameron go down as

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another player has been accused of domestic violence. jonathan dwyer of the arizona cardinals walked out of jail this morning after posting a $25,000 bond. police say the charges stem from two fights at his home this past july. and the alleged victims are dwyer's 18-month-old son and the child's mother. >> after she was physically assaulted, he took a shoe and threw it at their 18-month-old child. >> dwyer denies the charges, but the cardinals wasted no time releasing a statement pulling him from team activities. in north carolina, they announced greg hardy is taking a voluntary leave. he is appealing with a jury trial set for november. though, now benched, he's still receiving his paycheck of $772,000 a week. outside the nfl, the chorus of outrage against mark fuller is getting louder. alabama senator richard shelby has now joined missouri senator claire mccaskill and terry

sewell in calls for his immediate resignation. fuller, a 2002 george w. bush appointee was arrested august 9th after his wife called and told police he was beating her. >> what's going on? >> i -- it's domestic. >> excuse me? >> domestic dispute.f$ >> okay. with yourself and who else?ev >> i'm calling, i need help. >> what's your name? >> kelly fuller. >> okay. you need an ambulance? >> yes, please. >> kelli? kelli. okay. she needs an ambulance. i'm sending police. they're in a domestic fight now at the ritz-carlton. >> please help me. >> according to a police report, fuller's wife said the judge assaulted her after she confronted him over an alleged affair. fuller accepted a plea deal including pretrial diversion

that will result in his record being expunged if he completes a 24-week domestic violence program and undergoes drug and alcohol evaluation. fuller has been removed from hearing cases. but he's still being paid. his annual salary of nearly $200,000. as a lifetime tenured judge, the only way to remove fuller is for congress to impeach him. he reached out to fuller's attorney office, they had no comment. of all the terrifying stories, horrific stories of violence against women and children are perhaps the least discussed. and the most difficult to contemplate. as foreign policy magazine points out, the u.n. estimated last month that isis has forced some 1,500 women, teenage girls and boys into sexual slavery. faced with antiwar protesters from code pink on capitol hill yesterday, secretary of state john kerry drove home the reality that sexual violence is just another form of warfare.

>> isil is killing and raping and mutilating women. and they believe women shouldn't have an education. they sell off girls to be sex slaves to jihadists. they're cold-blooded making a mockery of a peaceful religion. >> the plight of women being enslaved and victimized is being discussed on social media with tweets like this. quote, my 9/11 daydream female kurdish commando storm hq of isis who fear being barred from heaven if killed by women. see you in hell boys. and, quote, if abuse of women and children will not be tolerated by the nfl, then it shouldn't be tolerated by anyone anywhere. stop isis slaughter. so the question many are asking, why isn't this crime against humanity getting more attention? chandra is a contributor at "the daily beast."

chandra, i'm going to start with you. it was reading your article the other day that got my team really focused on this issue in wanting to do a segment about this. you recently came back from visiting some of the refugee camps in lebanon, and these are refugees of the syrian civil war. tell us what you saw. >> sure originally i wasn't planning on writing a piece. i was teaching a seminar. and it was very sad. you saw children with burns across their bodies, children who had this traumatized look of a marine returning from war. they were, you know, they were hungry, you know, they were malnourished. it's a very sad process pekt. prospect. not enough resources to feed refuge refugees. and you write statistics are not collected in jordan. the u.n. agency reports 1 in 4

refugee girls under 8 are married off to men ten years or older. they're being preyed upon within the refugee camps. >> that's right. that's exactly right. and there are a number of excuses used for preying upon them. it's a better situation, for their own protections. you see a lot of excuses to abuse women in these cultures. >> and you've also written about this phenomenon as related to isis, which i -- i can only presume has made matters worse. you've written about essentially slave markets where young girls are being sold off. you write about isis setting up marriage bureaus for -- in captured syrian towns to recruit and other real horrors. how much has the isis onslaught in the middle east made worse the problem for women and girls? >> the onslaught of isis in the middle east is something just very unusual. it's a new phenomenon. we had something similar under

the taliban in afghanistan where women were barred from having access to education, or could go on the street without a male companion. we had that phenomenon earlier but now with isis, this is something that at least i have lived, you know, half of my life or more in the middle east. and have never heard of such a -- such a phenomenon as the way isis is treating women. you know, wherever they enter in every town, they round up the women, they round up the young girls and separate them. the old women are sent to makeshift slaves market, the younger girls are used for either religious sects, or

married on a temporary basis to fighters that leaves them behind and moves on to another town and does the same thing. this is really unheard of. the abuse of women. >> yeah, and chandra, you're talking about in some of these refugee camps, and we're talking about an area, lebanon, which already has refugees in a country of 4 million people, and you're in a place that's seen massacres and horrors before. how extensive is this refugee crisis? and how much are women and girls paying the price for it? >> women and young children make up 3/4 of the population. >> for these young girls and these women, is there any security? what are these refugee camps like? is there any way to secure them? and is the united nations on the ground. >> no formal counts in lebanon. they find shelter in whatever makeshift shanty they can find.

they are dependent on the generosity of the population and the government's ability to protect them. but since the government can't protect its own borders, protecting, you know, 200,000 8-year-olds is a little more challenging. >> and i'm wondering if this case is being added to the case being made by the united states to try to get regional governments to help to fight isis. if the idea that the women and girls from the region, we're talking about americans, we're talking actually about women from the region. their sisters, mothers, daughters, is that case being made that part of the reason for the region to get involved in fighting isis is to protect their own women and girls. >> look, i think it makes a lot of sense to focus much more on the plight of the women and girl children in the towns that isis has conquered to get the approval of, i would say, the american population who really has a very kind heart when it

comes to such issues. and they will support the administration. i really was surprised that the administration did not talk much sooner about what was happening to the women under isis. because after my article was published in the "wall street journal" block, i got e-mail from people i didn't know and said how can we help? and this means it really resinates with people. and also, i think, in the region, too. i mean, no matter how poorly women are treated in some of the countries in the region, but this is a matter of honor for them. >> right. yeah. >> you know, raping women and taking them as slaves.

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income inequality. you can't legislate that. >> absolutely. >> when the feminist movement started, there was a woman here in new york very important. she knew she was a woman. and she was black and she saw no contradiction. and it was very important to have women like that -- >> absolutely. >> who would stand up and acknowledge that women, white and black, had much in common. >> and women, we build movements, right? >> but as you see women becoming leaders and corporate america. >> yes. >> in journalism. >> yes. >> yes. >> in politics. and we may even have a woman president soon. >> you talk about, you know, sort of the difference between the movement at that time and now. it is very difficult to get younger people to understand

that they have to be engaged in order for us to make a change. >> yeah. because when i was a kid, a young woman, you know, justice stared you in the face, it almost knocked you over. you've got to walk the streets of harlem. you've got to pay attention to public affairs. >> and i think more people my age need to understand the importance of being organized. and we try to get them to understand it. that if we make noise and we make noise collectively, we'll be able to find some remedies. >> i need you to continue marching! >> making some noise, what you said. if the movement hadn't started making some noise. young people, for example, in the sit-in movement, which is very exciting part of the movement, or one solitary woman. is sitting down on a bus. and somehow inspired a whole city and ultimately the nation

rosa parks. >> right. >> i don't know of any change that has occurred in a democracy without people making those empower make it happen. >> absolutely. >> so, you know, we've got 43 members of the congressional black caucus now? >> right. >> our constituents. we can't stand up in congress and say this is what the people of harlem wanted. give it to them. >> and the people of harlem need to be there for that to happen, absolutely. >> when i was chair of the equal employment opportunity commission, i was the first woman to chair the convention the notion of sexual harassment was somehow embedded, we thought, in the statute. but it hadn't been -- >> exposed? >> and women hadn't come forward. i'd already gone to congress when perhaps the most famous sexual harassment allegation

came forward. and that was anita hill. this is a woman who -- i must say -- i must say as a lawyer, i found her the most credible witness i've ever seen. >> did you figure -- did you consider that involved harassment? >> yes, i did. >> and that proceeded. so several of us in the house of representatives said we want to go to the house floor and we're going to talk about this. we never were able to enter, but i can tell you one thing, it stopped the clock. and anita hill had to be called, yes, clarence thomas went on to the court. but there was a revolution among women in this country. and we had the greatest influx of women elected to the house

and to the senate ever up until that time. >> so you made noise? >> exactly. >> you made some noise. >> and eleanor holmes norton and tamica mallory have answered your questions online. and what issues define your generation? join us tomorrow night for our one-hour generation to generation a special at 10:00 eastern right here on msnbc. and next, we read between the lines on the battle to save detroit.

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why save detroit? that's the question that we asked when the "reid report"

traveled to the motor city as the record breaking $18 billion bankruptcy filing began to wind its way through the courts. shepherded by the city's emergency manager. among the many people we talked to for our four-part series on detroit, which kicks off tomorrow on the show with steven henderson, a pulitzer prize winning journalist who made it his mission to save not a whole city but just one home, which happens to be the one he spent his earliest years in. >> so we're now looking, you know, this is the block. >> this is the block. >> where you were born and the house is right over there. >> yeah. you look at a house where people are falling down. when you're saying to people, come here, come to detroit by these properties. what is the value of a house like that? >> well, technically, it's $500. that's what the wayne county treasurer will sell them for to people when they -- after they foreclose on them for taxes.

>> right. >> the real value of something like this, it's impossible to know because it's in such bad shape, it needs so much money and if you did do that, you still have the surrounding area and all its problems dragging the value down. >> and you talk about the bankruptcy, and you're not in detroit, it's kind of an abstraction. this is not an abstraction, a community of the auto industry. >> right. the people who lived in these houses when i was born would have been factory workers for the most part, on the line at ford or chrysler or places like that. and they were able to provide for their families. you know, i was born here, and think of all the opportunity that's unfolded for me. one of the things that motivates me is wondering what the opportunity is for a kid born on this block today. is it the same as what i had? or is it different? and can i make up that difference somehow by trying to

reinvest. >> for people in denver and l.a. looking at this. why should we save detroit? >> well, i mean, it's not up to them, it's up to us. those of us who are here. but i would argue that detroit is sheboygan, denver, it is new orleans. the problems that we have here are not special to the city or the people here. they are the result of national manufacturing policy that's all over the place and inconsistent. they are the result of the lack of investment in cities in most states, states pulling back from investment in the center of their core cities. they're, you know, if you don't fix detroit, i think you're writing off an idea, an american idea about urbanism. that's important.zñ and places far, far flung from the city's borders. we will fix it.

and everyone should be rooting for us to do so because there for the grace of god. >> henderson plans to buy that house and turn it into a community space. but fixing detroit will take more than one person rehabilitating one broken property. and tomorrow, we'll explore just what it will take to bring detroit back from the brink. and that wraps things up for "the reid report" "the cycle" is up next. we asked people a question, how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40, $53, $21, do you think the money in your pocket could make an impact on something as big as your retirement? not a chance. i don't think so. it's hard to imagine how something so small can help with something so big. but if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time,

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while in washington, lawmakers continue to grill the state department and the pentagon on the president's plan to destroy isis. as we come on the air today, wither learning that for the first time ever more americans disapprove of how president obama is handling the threat of terrorism against the homeland. just 41% of americans say he is doing it right. that is an all-time low. and secretaries and state and defense have their work cut out for them, as well, in congress.

>> president han has announced he has authorized for france to provide air strikes in iraq, that's one of the countries we've been counting in our ódnn. >> mostly the isil threat isz[ç syria, safe havens, training camps, resources. you're going to have to deal with them in -- >> we recognize this as difficult. we recognize there's no -- no good option here. but if we don't help where we can help develop some infrastructure, and this is why we would train in units and not individuals. >> you complain about, the administration is responsible for all the weapons for baghdad. no, we're not, you are. we're adhering to u.s. law. >> the house amendment to train and arm the syrian rebels and that vote will happen within the next few hours. proposed be