goodell also announced the nfl would be implementing a new set of personal conduct policies due to their obvious failure in recent weeks. >> our standards and the consequences of falling short must be clear, consistent, and current. nothing is off the table. we will implement new conduct policies. they will have a set of clear and transparent rules for league and club personnel, owners and players. we can't continue to operate like this. >> when asked whether he had considered resigning, goodell said he had not. today hundreds of ravens fans lined up at m & t stadium to exchange their ray rice jerseys for other jerseys. and president obama launched a campaign called it's on us.

the president made strong statements against violence against women on and off college campuses. >> we've got to have a fundamental shift in our culture. as far as we've come the fact is that from sports leagues to pop culture to politics, our society still does not sufficiently value women. we still don't condemn sexual assault as loudly as we should. we make excuses and look the other way. the message that sends can have a chilling effect on our women. >> joining me is shawn gregory. and from washington, survivor and saw -- author -- >> roger goodell is this enough for him to quell controversy and keep his job? >> no. keeping his job is another question. but as far as quelling the

controversy this is what you expect out of roger goodell. he is an artful dodger. you know, he doesn't answer the questions always strait forward a lot of talk. committees. we're trying to get it right. and it sounds a little hollow after all the nfl has been through to just kind of get statements -- the big news coming out of here is a commission. and you know, that's the kind of thing -- we know when governments don't want to do something they form committees. >> and also the code of conduct policy changes would be some kind of change as well. i guess i wonder why wait until today to do this? why not do this three days ago? do you think it reached a fever pitch with sponsors issuing statements and pulling their dollars? >> this goes back seven years when roger goodell took over. he decided to become the judge and jury and have these personal conduct issues. he waded into the waters and they are complicated and they keep changing.

i'm curious if he wishes he wouldn't have said i'm the guy early on. >> leslie, given all your experience on this issue what was your initial reaction to the changes that roger goodell proposed today? >> i view this so much more hopefully and less sinically. i think he said a lot of great things today. the first is he said that the nfl is microo'kozzem of the american society. and he took responsibility at least with words for his role in this. and you know, that's exactly what every single abuser has to do and so few of them do. but the most important thing that he said and that the nfl has done is he admitted they got this wrong because they didn't

have women's voices in the debate and the discussion of how to punish ray rice and other players. that's the watershed moment here is that women have become incredibly effective at getting our voices heard using social media and putting pressure on sponsors. that has huge congress questions not just ending domestic violence and rape but for every issue that matters to women in america. there is a lot to be excited about here. >> let me follow up on. that we know the nfl is going to fund two domestic abuse organizations. there have been a dramatic increase in calls to hot lines from victims of domestic violence. what happens beyond the hot line and the reporting. what else could the nfl be doing? given the fact there will be a commission convened and the work is not yet over? >> there's so much that needs to be done and dollars are very,

very important. when i called the hot line 20 years ago the hot line was busy. so money makes a difference here in terms of getting sport to victims. but i think the other thing that needs to continue to happen is what roger goodell promised and he did use the word "promise." he promised transparency. that means we will continue to break the silence about how relationship violence destroys people's lives. there are a lot of players who have come out in the last two weeks, a lot of celebrities and media percent knelts who talk about how relationship violence has damaged their lives and i think everything the nfl can do to continue to have that dialogue and listen to it and really continue to give victims a voice and women a voice and to continue to raise awareness about how expensive and destructive this problem has been for way too long in the nfl

and in every corner of our society. >> the questions for roger goodell on the issue of ray rice and who knew what when seem to be very much unresolved. there was a reporter from tmz sports who asked goodell in a straight forward fashion why didn't you call the casino to get the rest of the footage, it took us one call, you're the nfl and i didn't feel that roger goodell had an answer to that. >> he did not. he didn't take responsibility for that. it's a great question. he is punting that to robert mueller. so he's saying they're going to figure that out. >> do you have any confidence that is actually -- that we will determine why exactly the nfl didn't -- i mean there was also a question about whether robert mueller could be an unvarnished, unbiassed investigator. >> that's the question. the firm he works for has ties to the nfl.

they have all done business together. and you hope as a former fbi head he can do this. and we'll see what the report brings. it will be interesting to say the lease. >> leslie, we played some sound from president obama and vice president biden announced an initiative called it's on us. the president was fairly clear and i thought powerful in his words saying that we have got to have a fundamental shift in our culture as far as we've come our society still does not sufficiently value women. what else would you like to hear from our elected officials? the subject of violence against women and i've spoken to elected veptives on capitol hill about this is still a contentious one to get dealt with in the halls of congress. we are not there yet as a society. i wonder what your asks would be to those who are in the policy

realm. >> the most important thing that obama said which is true is that our society does not take violence against women as seriously as we need to. and it's a wonderful thing to have a consensus that domestic violence is wrong. but we need to punish offenders in a common sense and practical way. and right now there are so many loopholes that if someone hurts a woman today there is a less than 4% chance he will spend even a minute in jail because so many people, you know, fall into this well it's a he said/she said crime. i don't know what really happened. there is so much evidence when there is violence against women and children and against men too. men can be victims as well. our criminal justice system has to stop being so biassed. there are so many good laws on the books that are not enforced. and i think we have to believe victims when they come forward. this is not a crime that anybody wants to be a victim of.

and when you said you -- when you say you've been abused or he says he's going to kill my children. let's believe the victims. >> shawn, to the -- we're obviously going back and forth between the broader issue and the specific one in the nfl. the punishment issue is all over the place in the nfl. this is something that was brought up in at the roger goodell press conference. theoretically this should maybe change with this revamped code of conduct. how likely is that that we see a more robust response for other players who aren't as much in the spotlight but that there is real action taken by team owners to deal with these cases in the immediate? >> i think there will be. there needs to be specific language. there is ambiguity right now and the changes that roger goodell

referred to on domestic violence he made a month ago. there is still mitigating factors and it wasn't clear what it takes to trigger things. the one thing that the new personal conduct committee has to be specific on is what triggers this punishment. >> i want to talk quickly about the returning of the ray rice jerseys which brought out hundreds if not thousands of people to the stadium in baltimore. this was an overwhelming response from ravens fans. what happens to ray rice? >> it's a great question. the nfl has a history of second chances. we saw this with michael vick. a year from now hopefully we're having a discussion and the good can come out of it by having this discussion but it's he might not be as much in the spotlight. it wouldn't shock me if he returns to the nfl.

>> in terms of the women watching and encouraged to come out of the shadows. i know you have an optimistic view of whether roger goodell's actions are sufficient enough. what do you say to those who may be somewhat displeased or dismayed by the response of the nfl today? those women who are suffering in silence? >> part of the solution has got to be a continued spotlight on the nfl, on the players and on anybody who commits any sort of violence against women. the media plays a very important role and women do too and the hashtag movement, why i left, why i stayed it's a powerful way for victims to have their voices heard and men and women to understand the damage that gets done here. we have a realtime example of how the nfl may not be taking this seriously enough. just to be a little bit cynical

for a second and that is placing players on this exempt commissioner's list where they can't play but are paid. and i say the only way ray rice should be allowed to come back is if he takes full and total responsibility for what he did to janay in the elevator. that's the only way that anybody should be given a second chance here. and the media and advocates and everyone out there plays a role in making sure that doesn't happen. >> that would be one of the policies that the exemption with pay where there is an immediate opportunity to say that's going to change. >> that's a great point. i wouldn't be surprised if that does change. it is ridiculous that greg hardy is getting so much money after being convicted of assault. >> money is influential. >> and it will determine whether roger goodell stays or goes.

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syrian rebels the obama administration takes its isis strategy to the world stage. john kerry addressed a meeting of the u.n. security council saying that it must be comprehensive and there is a role for iran. >> it's about taking out an entire network decimating and discrediting a militant cult mas cading as a religious movement. the fact is there is a role for nearly every country in the world to play including iran. >> but the secretary declined to elaborate on what that role might be. as president obama prepares to address the u.n. general assembly next week there is a tough sell ahead. while france conducted air strikes today. french president hollande says that they will not expand strikes into syria and will not deploy ground troops.

president obama has been vehement that this will not involve boots on the ground but there are increasing signs that pentagon officials may disagree. martin dempsey said he would not rule out recommending combat troops if air strikes fail. and in a conflict that dempsey describes as zroordly complex the fight has just begun. after an air campaign things get considerably more difficult. the "new york times" quotes a senior pentagon official as saying there is no one who "n" this building that knows that clearing out the city will be much harder. that's when the rubber meets the road. joining me is josh earnest. thank you for joining me an incredibly busy day and week for the white house. >> thank you for having me. >> let's start with the senior official at d.o.d. saying it's

hard now and will get much harder. how is the american public going to have confidence that the troops will clear out iraqi cities when american forces failed at that? >> what we're talking about is iraqi security forces fighting for their own country. we can't be in a position where we send american ground troops back into iraq in a combat role to try to take care of the security environment on behalf of the iraqi people. we're not going to be in a position to do that. what we need is the iraqis to fight for their own country. that's why it was important for the central government to be formed to integrate the security forces in a way that every member of the security force could go out there and faithfully fight for their entire country. now that will improve the will of the fighters. what we also need to do is to improve their capability. we're going to ramp up training and assistance. and we're also going to back the fighters with american military

air power. so there is an opportunity for us to improve the performance of iraqi security forces on the battlefield but nobody is underestimating how difficult this task will be. but the only other alternative is to put american combat boots on the ground. >> to that end, general dempsey is on the record of saying of the 50 iraqi brigades, only 26 were assessed to be reputable partners. in syria it's going the take eight to 12 months to train the first soldiers. isis has an estimated 31,000 fighters. i mean you look at the numbers and they are not good. and i guess the question is one understands it's not america's job to handle this but is it good strategy to think that those on the ground will be able to do this? >> what we know is it is a bad strategy to rely solely on the american military and put them in a position where they have to

be solely responsibility for the security situation in iraq or syria. we're going to build a broader international coalition to support these local forces as they take the fight to isil on the ground in their own country. that is the only alternative. and that is the only way we're going to be able to solve the situation in an enduring way. what we saw was a decade-long commitment by the united states military to restore the security situation in iraq and after many years of service and sacrifice what we saw is we didn't see the will from the iraqi people to unite the country and governor in an inclusive way when they governed along sectarian lines all the work that the american military put into stabilizing the security situation in iraq fell away. the only enduring way is to get buy in from the local populations and the iraqi security forces to take the fight to isil in their own country. there are things we can do to

help but can't do it for them. >> the secretary of state suggested there was a role for iran to play in this. what is that role, josh? >> there have been conversations on the sidelines of the ongoing p 5 plus one talks with iran about their nuclear program. on the sidelines of those conversations, american officials have made it clear to their iranian counter parts a couple of things the united states is not interested in move in and occupying iraq. you can understand why iran would be concerned about that. we have strong differences with iran and they would be concerned if the u.s. military were going to occupy their neighbor. the other thing that's clear is that both the united states and iran have an interest in making sure that isil doesn't have a safe haven from which to operate either in syria or iraq. that they are a terribly destabilizing influence on that broader region. >> given that, is it accurate to assume that the white house or

the american -- that the state department and american officials are speak with iranian officials on this? >> well, we've been clear that we have talked to them. we're not in a position to coordinate our military activities but we can be clear with them about our interests and how we think our interests align with theirs. so we saw the previous iraqi government governor that country in a sectarian way. they were heavily influenced by the iranian regime and it caused iraq's sectarian divisions to show in a way that created an opening for isil. what's clear is there is an interest for iran to provide political support to an iraqi regime that is inclusive and reflects the broad diversity of the kurdish, sunni and shia populations. that is not orlandoly the

iranian's instincts. so making sure that iran understands that they have an interest in supporting a diverse, a unified, inclusive central government in baghdad makes it clear they have the same interest that the united states and the rest of the world does. >> the french are conducting air strikes, how close is the united states to convincing france not to pay ransom payments. >> is it the policy of the united states not to pay ransom to those holding american hostages. this is a painful thing for people who have loved ones who are being held overseas. this is very painful and our thoughts and prayers are with those american families right now that are worried about loved ones in the hands of the terrorists. this is a policy that predates this administration that we should not pay ransom to terrorist organization. we know that organizations right now rely on ransoms to fund

their operations. we also know to set a precedent of paying ransom for american hostages would only make other americans more vulnerable and at greater risk of being taken hostage themselves. we have this policy put in place. but we believe it is clearly in the best interest of the american people and individual american citizens to maintain this policy. we also encourage countries all around the globe to maintain this policy for the same reasons. >> let me switch gears for a minute. obviously it's a busy news day and the president and vice president were announcing a major campus sexual assault initiative. before we get to that, i mean, domestic abuse is very much in the news. what is the white house reaction to the proposed measures from the nfl? >> i didn't have an opportunity to see mr. goodell's news conference but as a general matter the white house is

supportive of any organization, including the nfl, if they're willing to dedicate efforts to confront this problem. what the president and vice president talked about today was a new campaign called it's on us campaign. go to it'sonus.org to take a pledge to make clear they are willing to intervene and state publicly in their community that sexual assault and sexual violence and domestic violence is not something we're going to tolerate. there is in our culture some strains of permissiveness to allow a few bad perpetrators to get away with the violence on the assumption that others won't stop it. we are encouraging parents and teachers and coaches to get involved and show they will be outspoken in their community and it's on all of us to make sure that sexual assault and sexual violence does not occur in our society and we make clear it is

unacceptable for those perpetrators to carry out those terrible acts. >> let me ask you one more question, the president in strong words says that our society does not value women enough. was he thinking about adrian peterson and ray rice when he said that? >> i think he was talking about broad societal norms and the responsibility that we all have, including some women to step forward in making sure that everybody in our society, particularly women, get the respect they deserve and we have the inclusive society that is the founding -- one of the key founding values of our country and has been critical to our success as a country. >> white house press secretary josh earnest closing out the week. thank you for taking the time. >> happy friday, alex. take care. >> you too. an eye opening report from minnesota where isis is trying to recruit american teenagers on to the battlefield. and what is chris christie's

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the department of justice this week announced a pilot program to combat terrorist recruitment in minneapolis and st. paul focused on engaging at-risk kids. minneapolis has long been and recruiting from groups like isis. last month two minnesotans were killed while fighting on behalf of the terror groups in syria. we traveled to minneapolis to report on isis recruiting tactics and the efforts to stop them. >> we are standing behind the

islamic center which during our investigation in 2008 and 2009 was the focus of a lot of concern within the community and among law enforcement because a lot of the young men who were recruited and ultimately traveled to somalia and joined al shabab worshipped here. today what we're seeing in minneapolis is that isis has begun successfully, very successfully recruiting young men and women to leave its country and join its ranks. >> when i grew up in minneapolis the last thing you would have thought about is the idea that there would be international terrorist organizations successfully recruiting kids from minnesota high schools to travel half way across the world to fight and die. >> why would any young person from the midwest join isis? >> they are feeling alienated they are not anchored in any

community. many young muslim men feel there is racial profiling that is happening with their names so they don't get called even if they apply for jobs in unskilled sectors, for example and in the post-9/11 context there has been a lot of apprehension in the muslim community in terms of the relationship they have with law enforcement officials. so some of these kids experience identity crisis, not belonging here but not knowing where they belong. some of the messages that these extremist groups are putting forward or putting online clearly capitalize on that confusion. >> i want you to tell me what you want to do -- what do you want to do when you grow up? what is your dream? >> when it comes to radicalization, our efforts has really been on putting more investment and effort into the law enforcement community, which we should be doing that. however we're not -- we're

taking light lig on a community level and that's not part of our solution. >> so basically the after school program so the kids won't be on the streets. >> in order to combat this issue first of all we have to talk about some of the underlining issue that cause someone to be recruited. we have to make sure that we provide an environment where these young people can come and really thrive and strive for success. >> what do you think of isis? >> well i'm just kind of confused. you know, it's like a slap in the face because they claim they are muslims and muslims would never take anybody's life. isis is making us look bad. >> why? >> because they are doing bad stuff under our religion because they're saying we're muslim but they take people's lives but muslim people do not do that. >> have you heard the recruiters trying to get boys to join? >> yeah. >> what do you think of that? >> it's not going to work with

me. but i think they will take a few kids. >> who do you think they will take? >> some kids can be persuaded. i think the people who are recruiting are lost. >> we are fighting isis globally and domestically. they are continuing to recruit young americans. until we fight this at a local level on the ground this issue will not be eliminated. >> joining me is at the center for american progress, brian -- and washington bureau chief for "time" the magazine looks a it the challenges of forming a coalition against isis in this week's issue. michael, let's start with you, then. in terms of the white house and the american government, we just played that video package. do you think that we are at a point now where the american officials are being self critical enough in terms of how

our counterterrorism and security policies may affect our interest in the adverse both at home and abroad? >> i appreciate the plug, first of all. second, i think they are very sensitive. they continue to maintain and all the intelligence community as said this consistently from the beginning that isis is not organizing attempts at attacks on the u.s. but recruitment is a problem. one of the things that john kerry says is this is not an islamic fighting force. the muslim clerics have condemned them. and the state department and others are engaging with isis trying to convince in english people who are living in america that this is not a muslim movement they want to join. i think they are very aware of it. but they feel they are in a better position than they were after september 11th when we

didn't have the outreach to a lot of these islamic communities around the country and we didn't have the awareness, the home left-hand security work and awareness of what is going on here. you see regularly now the fbi picking up people as they board planes. some have gotten through. but there is a lot of law enforcement activity going on right now. probably often through online surveillance trying to catch these people before they join. >> brian, to the question of recruitment overseas a huge part is economic and social and the break down of institutions and a lack of resources. if we are to get to the root of the problem what else needs to be done that is not part of our portfolio at this point. who, then, to take it up? >> this is why i think the administration is wise in trying to build this regional and international coalition. we have a role here but it's a multifaceted strategy and i'm heartened to see the report you just ran there because a big

part of the strategy is how do you marginalize crazy? we talk about military means which is necessary, certainly in iraq. but what your report shows is a multifaceted strategy to stop the recruitment of these individuals and it's important that key partners in the region, including saudi arabia and others to get behind this. america shouldn't bear this weight and these people need to isolate the extremism in their own religion. >> let's talk about the news of the day on the strategy here. there seems to be a rift between the department of defense and the white house on the long-term strategy on how to defeat isis. the difficulty in retaking iraqi

cities like mosul and erbil. and how much of an issue this is for the white house in the coming days especially ahead of the general assembly of the united nations. >> i think it's going to be a growing issue. it was interesting to hear him talk about ground troops that it's an all or nothing proposition. the reality of this debate is that it is over special forces and spotters to join iraqi units. the pentagon is really concerned that the white house for political reasons because they don't want to be seen as starting a ground war in iraq with american troops. i think that debate is unresolved. and over time my guess is that the white house will change the definition of what boots on the ground means. >> and brian before we go, in terms of the funding if we are addressing the problems at the root, how close are we to convincing the turks not to buy

black market oil from isis? >> not as close as we need to be. not only selling the oil on the black market but funders from gulf countries like qatar and saudi arabia. all these means need to be used to tighten the noose around isis. this is not primarily a military strategy. it has to involve all of the components. turkey is a big part of the problem with the support it has provided to the networks. >> thank you both for your time. >> thank you. did federal investigators just get chris christie out of a jam? >> the latest on bridge gate coming up next. yeah! go! [sfx] roaring altima engine woah! ahhhha! we told people they were riding nissan's most advanced altima race car. we lied... about the race car part. altima, with 270 horsepower and active understeer control.

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we have breaking news this hour. kansas secretary of state chris koback will allow overseas military ballots in kansas to be mailed out tomorrow without listing a democratic candidate for the u.s. senate. this follows a ruling that chad taylor must be removed from the ballot. something that koback protested. taylor removed himself from the

race this month. the reversal came less than 24 hours after he vowed to force democrats to name a replacement. >> we have a law that must be complied with. the election season is upon us and kansas law requires that the democrat party must at this point name a replacement. if the democrat party wishes to play games with our election laws and not nominate a replacement then i encourage the members of the press corps to ask them why. >> joining me is a reporter for kshb, garrett, always good to see you, our man in kansas. does this mean that the ballots in november, the regular ballots, not the overseas ones will not have a democratic name on them? >> absolutely certainly.

the party has shown no inclination to hold a convention. they have said as much. they don't want to get into this fight. now their man is out of it they are happy to sit back and let greg orrman be the standard bearer against pat roberts. remember with orman not as the candidate, they can fight as much as they want. orman can sit back and let kobach get as mad as he wants. >> it has not been an easy 24 hours for kobach what was the impetus to announce this change of heart on sending the overseas military ballots. >> he might have realized he was over his skis on this.

the republican party in kansas is having to circle the wagons. all three of the statewide office holders are in trouble. that includes kris kobach. few people in kansas are really familiar with his opponent. he, brownback and pat roberts are in a jam here. and to pick a fight in this race that he is not really involved with just extends him further and makes him a target for democrats who are feeling activated in kansas. >> the democrats have got behind greg orman but there are questions about what his politics will be and which party he is more closely aligned with. what is your assessment of where he stands right versus left? >> based on his donation habits himself and what he said about his political positions he definitely leans to the left.

he has given more of his money to democratic candidates than he has the republicans and the one major name that he gave money to was a guy named scott brown who you may be familiar with who wasn't exactly a clear cut republican himself. he staked out a position where he says he is fiscally conservative but socially moderate. he is essentially prochoice but he owns two handguns. so on social issues he is on both sides of the fence here. that is a good strategy for him. a guy with a "d" behind his name has not won a senate seat in kansas since before world war ii. but if he can avoid being painted as a vote for president obama or just a member backing harry reid he stands a chance. >> garrett, you suggested as much, this could be a seismic moment for the kansas g.o.p. between sam brownback, kris

kobach down the ballot you could have major shakeups. what is the mood on the ground in grand old party circles? >> you are seeing with sam brownback the danger of an overreach here. he campaigned against moderate republicans a few years ago and put all his money on this big tax cut bet and said this is the way forward for conservatives and you look at the economic indicators that is not panning out. >> $338 million short fall. go ahead. >> absolutely right and the jobs numbers were flat and that is a big part of this. he is promising there are jobs attached to this. pat roberts had to make a tach to the right. >> that is putting it

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