believe in, and in the face of all this failure from republican leadership, i think we're going to be okay. >> okay, we'll have more on our texas conversation in the coming days. good to have you with us tonight. that's the ed show. "politicsnation" starts right now. >> good evening, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the nfl commissioner breaks his silence. under mounting pressure to speak publicly about the scandals hanging over the league, roger goodell faced the media for the first time in ten days. in a 43-minute conference, he says he's forming a new personal conduct committee, and vowed all players will go through a training program. and he said he's sorry. >> unfortunately, over the past several weeks, we've seen all too much of the nfl doing wrong. that starts with me.

i got it wrong in the handling of the ray rice matter. and i'm sorry for that. i got it wrong on a number of levels, from the process that i led, to the decision that i reached. >> he also said he did not consider resigning after criticism on his response to the ray rice scandal. since he last spoke about that, the league has been plagued with more scandals and mounting questions on nfl policies and their internal investigation. today, we didn't always get direct answers to those questions. >> you've had pretty extreme unilateral power in deciding discipline. how willing are you to give up some of that power, and do you think that would be the right thing for you to do? >> well, rachel, as i said in my statement, everything is on the table. >> what exactly did ray rice tell you what happened in the

elevator, and how did, what you thought in your mind happened differ from what we saw on the video? >> well, judy, a couple things. as i said, we got new information -- >> commissioner, what did he say? what did he tell you happened? >> the one issue with this, this is now a matter of appeal. >> you keep talking about transparency, why not say what he said? >> well, i'm telling you right now, that it's inconsistent with what he told us. >> if the 32 owners had a vote today about whether you should keep your jobs, what do you think the results would be? >> that's a hypothetical that i can't deal with. [ inaudible question ] >> that's something that robert mueller is going to have to announce. >> the nfl is the most powerful sports league in america. but this story is bigger than the nfl. today the commissioner apologized for mistakes in the past, but there's still

questions about what the changes will be in the future. joining me now is joy taylor, co-host of of a show on miami's 104.3 the ticket. and dana jacobsen, thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. dana, your reaction to goodell today, were you satisfied? >> no. and i don't know that anybody was. but i also don't think that we ever would be satisfied with what he said. i think the biggest miss, he was trying to lead, and he had canned speech, canned emotion, the lawyerly answers, people wanted some emotion. more than just an "i'm sorry." everybody's referred to sean payton. he couldn't use ignorance as a reason for why things went wrong with the saints. they feel with goodell it's the same thing. ignorance isn't an excuse.

why not say, all right, i'm going to fine myself a year's salary, which we know for him is an awful lot of money and 44 million with his bonuses, or even half of that amount, say, i got it wrong, i'm not above reproach. you can punish me. but had he even said that, i think we could have at least sat here and said, he didn't do everything right, sort of laid out what the future what they might do, but you would have felt better that he owned up in a different way, rather than just saying "i'm sorry" again. >> what do you think about his performance today? >> i thought it was a performance. he said a whole lot of nothing. he was up there for 40-plus minutes talking about stuff that he's going to do. he was gone. we couldn't find him anywhere. nowhere to be found. in all that time, you couldn't come up with an answer. i thought the questions that were asked of him were for precise, and he had very

round-about answers. a lot of, we will do this, and we will work on this, we will change this, and we must be better, but there was no direct answer to really any question, except for when he could get away from it and say that it's an appeal or legally he can't talk about it. i thought he just gave a very good performance, but we didn't learn anything, and i don't think anyone feels better about it, and that's disappointing. >> i think that the thing that she touches on there, dana, was, as i watched as much as i could of it, you began wondering, what took you so long to say this, when you're not really saying anything that you couldn't have said two weeks ago? >> yeah, there was a lot of speculation that because they had taken nine days since the interview before, that maybe there would be more policy in place already, instead of just saying, i'm going to get together with a bunch of experts and then we'll look at the personal conduct policy. i get it.

we're in an instant gratification world where we assume everything can be done right away, and it takes time. but one concrete thing would have been nice. even having d. smith there would have said, we're a little more joint in forces, we've met, we've talked. and you are wondering, what have you been doing? >> joy, he repeatedly said he was reviewing the league's policies and that everything was on the table. listen to this. >> there will be changes to our personal conduct policy. i know this because we will make it happen. nothing is off the table. everything is on the table. we're going to make sure that we look at every aspect of the process of how we gather information. >> but until we learn what those new policies are, won't the questions keep lingering, joy? >> well, yeah, because he didn't

answer any of those questions. he's just -- for every question he was asked, he just kept using the same language. it was very rehearsed, it was very practiced. he basically could have made a statement and posted it on the league's facebook and we would have had all the same answers that we got from the press conference. the new policies, that they're going to put in place, why didn't you give us anything that you're going to change? nothing was straightforward. that's what everyone wanted. you were gone, come out with something, come out with an answer, come out with something strong. nothing was strong. we didn't learn anything. >> at the very least, if you have demorris smith there, i feel like you could have said, we sat in a room and we don't have the policies yet, but we agree that it has to be more. something concrete, one thing. >> but when they come with the policies, it may be overshadowed by this.

espn.com has just posted a story that has found, quote, a pattern of misinformation and misdirection employed by the ravens and the nfl. the article goes on to say, quote, after the february 15 incident in the casino elevator, ravens executives, in particular owner steve bisciotti, president dick cass, and general manager ozzie newsome began extensive public and private campaigns pushing for leniency for rice on several fronts. from the judicial system in atlantic county where rice faced assault charges to commissioner goodell who will decide the number of games rice will be suspended from this fall, to within their own building, where some were arguing immediately after the incident that rice should be released. now, this is very, very, very, i

think, could be a game-changer. >> here's the thing, though. anybody who knows the nfl is not surprised by this. this is what people were saying. you have security forces, you knew things right away. it was brought up. this actually might help commissioner goodell in the sense that it was brought up that steve bisciotti had collateral with the commissioner. help me out here, this is a guy who's been a good guy for us and he did this horrible thing, but we need him. and by the way, we need him because he wins games for us, and this is about the game on the field that people are still watching and we can't forget that, so it's not surprising. it's shocking to hear and know the extent of it in some ways -- >> but it could or could not help goodell. joy, you're just hearing this as we are reading it to both you and, in fairness, dana did not know about this posting. we just got it. but it's according to whether or not goodell knew a lot, while they were lobbying him.

this could be -- it could overshadow everything, according to how extensive they shared information, and what really went on in this lobbying. >> yeah, i read most of the article right before we came on, so i didn't get through all of it, but i know most of the content of it. and i think he's right, most people who are around the nfl know that all of this went on. i mean, i never thought for a second that roger goodell did not know what happened in that elevator to an exact extent. whether he saw the video or not, you can describe it and it can be just as horrifying. so that means nothing. so i do think that investigation by espn will change a lot, especially for the public. because after you come out with this very weak press conference where you say nothing strong, and now you have, you know, an investigation where people are saying, all of these different people were involved in a cover-up -- a cover-up -- when

you are coming out and not being straightforward is not good for the commissioner. not good at all. >> a pattern of misdirection and misinformation employed by the rin ravens and the nfl. very powerful words. dana and joy, i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time tonight and have a good weekend. >> thank you, you too. coming up, why the nfl just the start of the conversation about domestic abuse in america. president obama made big news today with a new push on this national crisis. also, police claim a major break in the disappearance of a virginia college student. could this surveillance video help solve the case? also celebrating "the cosby show," which debuted 30 years ago this week. it changed american attitudes and kept us laughing. >> i got everything i need, plus $200 left for the month.

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we're like a microcosm of society. >> violence against women is bigger than the nfl. it's a national crisis. the cdc says 24 people per minute are victims of rape, domestic violence, or stalking. the fbi says a rape occurs in the u.s. every six minutes. and reports show 1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted while in college. this is a national problem and we all have to change it. joining me now is shauna thomas, co-founder of the women's rights group ultraviolet. and lisa bloom, attorney and legal analyst for avvo.com. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> shauna, your group flew banners saying "goodell must go" last week. what's your reaction to his press conference?

>> our reaction is not that different from everybody's else's, which is that you didn't hear anything more than we knew before, which is that he is responding to a lot of public pressure by trying to do what he can to make it look like he is taking the nfl to a place where they are going to be dealing with the problem of domestic violence really seriously. unfortunately we and a lot of people around the country agree, that he can't be trusted to do that. he's overseen the nfl and known about the problem of domestic violence in the nfl for years. there were at least 50 cases before ray rice, in which he dealt with them by brushing them under the rug. this is a person who doesn't understand the problem of domestic violence, may understand it now, but his deceptive handling of the case from the start makes him totally unqualified and just wrong for leading the nfl at this time, considering what a huge american

institution the nfl is. >> but, lisa, it brings up other areas where we've kind of let things go. for example, lots of people are talking about alabama federal judge mark fuller. charges were made against him last month, but he's still getting paid as a judge. the state governor, both senators and all but one congress member from alabama have said he should resign. but he's still getting paid. what do you make of this response? >> absolutely. it's the same kind of disgusting, lenient treatment from the legal system that ray rice got. judge fuller basically got a slap on the wrist. really, even less than that. you get a little counselling, it's called pretrial diversion, and the whole thing is just wiped clean, as if it never happened. you don't even have this on your record. and like ray rice, judge fuller assaulted his wife in a hotel, and there's a recording of it.

so to me, this points to the real root cause that's underlying all of this. and that is, that our legal system is just completely ineffective when it comes to dealing with domestic violence. i see this in my family law practice every day. although everybody says we have no tolerance for domestic violence. when it comes to an individual case, people turn away, they want to blame the victim and process them through the system as quickly as possible. >> but are things changing, lisa? >> not in my opinion. i see this every day. and especially when you have a wealthy, powerful man. the report that you just talked about from espn, where the ravens and nfl officials asked for leniency for ray rice, that happens all the time. people just pick up the phone and all of a sudden the criminal justice system gives somebody a pass. the nfl couldn't pick up the phone and get the tape, but they could help him. they are an accessory after the fact if they did that, to the domestic violence. >> shauna, there's such a

culture of victim blaming around the issue of domestic violence and sexual assault. i want to play what vice president biden said about that today. listen to this. >> it is never the right question for a woman to ask, what did i do? never. get this straight -- never is it appropriate for a woman to ask, what did i do? the question is, why was that done to me? and will someone do something about it? >> how can we change those old attitudes, shauna? >> a big part of it is culture shift. i agree completely, the justice system has a long way to go before we'll see real progress and we're going to see people seeing real justice when they're the victims of domestic violence or sexual assault. but we're also really talking again about culture change here, where there's an attitude, a change that we have to see in which people do not immediately blame the victim, and that's why

this case around the nfl is so important. they are a huge, incredibly powerful american institution, where the players serve as role models for young people. if we aren't putting into place, the nfl itself isn't putting into place the right, the proper repercussions for engaging if that kind of behavior, how are we going to prevent anybody else from understanding what is right or wrong? >> but, lisa, the calls are up. the national domestic violence hotline report that calls have gone from 84% since the ray rice video was made public, the hotline is now receiving nearly 1,300 calls a day. are women feeling able to talk about what's happened to them? >> nothing good about that statistic. either domestic violence is up, or women are talking about it more, either way the answer has to be prevention. the legal system is broken. institutions like the nfl aren't

dealing with this. we need to cut this off at the source. boys need to be taught, that a real man never hits a woman. and a dad never hits his child with a switch. martin luther king had to teach non-violence, there were classes on how to do it. it's not something that comes natural to people. they have to learn peaceful ways to resolve disputes. >> this is not a discussion that we need to in any way short change. we're going to stay on it to solve it. shauna and lisa, thank you for your time, have a good weekend, both of you. >> thanks. >> thank you. still ahead, the desperate search for a missing college student in virginia, how could this surveillance tape help solve the mystery? >> also senator mccain flip flops his way back into the "politicsnation." gotcha. and we'll celebrate 30 years of the show that made america laugh and rethink attitudes

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we have breaking news tonight in the case of a missing college student in virginia. hannah graham disappeared last saturday after 1:00 in the morning after texting to friends that she was lost. police released two surveillance videos today showing the 18-year-old walking along a mall, late last friday night. you can see a man identified by police as a witness, who started following hannah, after she passed by. police say that man told them he followed her until another man, described as an african american with dread locks, came up to her and put his arm around her. today police executed two search warrants on an apartment and a car in connection with the disappearance. >> we have reason to believe she was inside of a bar on this

mall, with an individual who lived on hessian hills way, whose home we visited this morning. people saw her with that individual in that restaurant. videotape that you've already seen, people saw hannah, and people saw him, and people saw them together. and it's entirely possible, we believe, that hannah graham may have gotten into his vehicle. a vehicle that we seized pursuant to a search warrant. >> joining me now is former fbi profiler clint van zant. thank you for being here, first of all. >> absolutely. >> police have seized a car and they've identified a man who was with hannah that night. >> yeah. >> but they seem to need help from the public.

what can you tell us about where this investigation stands? >> well, you know, al, the grate thing today, we have these surveillance cameras, not just in new york, and london, but here we are in middle virginia. they have the same thing. these cameras have been able to take this young girl from point a to b to c to d. first we have this white male who said he follows the victim because she looked some distress or lost. that could be a shaky story. he says this african american comes up, puts his arms around her. law enforcement is able to put this believed suspect or person of interest, whatever you want to call him, they put him and hannah in a bar together, having a drink together. so that seems to support the witness's story. what they need now, al, is that you hear this police chief, and you've never heard a more passionate plea by a police officer in their life.

i mean, this guy is a father, a police chief. i mean, he cares, obviously about this situation. what he needs right now is somebody to say, this suspect and victim walked out of the bar together, got in the car together, and drove off. that would say this guy is the last person we know of in the world that has ever seen the victim. but we don't have that right now, and he needs the public's help to pull this together. >> that's where i was going. so he needs the public's help, because we also don't know if they get that connection, or what this witness was really doing. we just -- there's no one that's looping this into, therefore, this is where she started when she was missing. >> that's exactly true. they're able to come up with supposition, but supposition doesn't make an arrest warrant. they have this person of

interest in their hands, and they didn't have enough to hold him, maybe not enough to question him, and they had to let him go free. well, that's the way it's supposed to be. but now law enforcement, public, put this thing together, either put him leaving with this man, or put her walking out on her own, but let's find the next piece of this puzzle as to what happened to this woman. >> let me ask you stand by, clint. i want to turn to a controversial police shooting in savannah, georgia. police say they arrested charles smith on outstanding warrants yesterday. he was handcuffed, put into a police car. police say he moved his hands to his front and kicked the window out of the car to escape. officers said they noticed that smith had a gun and that's when continue officer shot and killed him. residents staged a peaceful protest last night and community leaders are asking for a full

investigation. let me bring in msnbc's law enforcement analyst jim cavanaugh. jim, do you find it strange that officers didn't find this gun on charles smith when they handcuffed him? >> well, if that's true, reverend, it's a sloppy search. a sloppy physical search of an arrested person does happen, though. and those cases do happen where people, officers, miss guns on a search and then the gun is displayed later. it also happens where sometimes the person arrested previously to the person that comes out with the gun in a patrol car was not searched appropriately. then someone else is arrested, placed in the back seat, with their hands behind their back and they feel down in the seat and lo and behold, there's a pistol. so that's happened before. but if it did happen, it's a very sloppy search. >> he's handcuffed in the back, but they say he gets his hands to the front. then there's a gun they didn't

see. what would be your questions here? >> number one, i've seen guys do this. much more agile than me, who can get their feet through the handcuffs and get their hands up front again. but jim makes a good point, even though the subject could have had a gun, or the gun could have been in the car, show me the fingerprints. show me the dna of the suspect on -- suspects on that gun. and more importantly, show me the suspect's fingerprints on the cartridges that are loaded in that gun. show me he had some contact with that gun prior to the shooting and then maybe you got a case. but this is one of those csi cases, reverend al, that's going to hinge on the forensics right now. can you put that gun in his position? this is something that atf does so well. they can take that gun from the time it was manufactured and bring it forward to the last person who had it. >> what kinds of things will

they test for? what will they look for? >> i'm sorry. >> go ahead, clint. what would they be looking for? >> yeah, they're going to have to find fingerprints and dna and they're going to have to find any other physical evidence that will link that gun to him. and let's say, put it in his hand. you know, al, you hear terrible stories over the last hundred years of law enforcement having what's called a throwdown gun, if it's a bad shooting, somebody takes a gun and throws it down and makes it look real. now we have a way through physical evidence to say if that really took place, or if this was a gun that was actually touched by the suspect. >> all right, clint, thank you for your time. jim, stay with me for another story we're tracking tonight. the massive manhunt for a cop

killer in pennsylvania. eric frein is now on the fbi's 10 most wanted list. he continued to evade police tonight. one week after he allegedly ambushed two police officers, killing one and leaving the other one wounded. schools were shut down again today as police search in a heavily wooded area where they believe frein is hiding. >> we think he's here, we have reason to believe he's still in the area, but we want to make sure we're covering every base. we can't let this fella get out of this area because we think he'd be a danger to other members of law enforcement, as well as society. >> let's bring in nbc's sarah from barrett, pennsylvania. sarah, what can you tell us about the investigation right now? >> well, reverend, the sun is going down on the seventh day of searching and as you said, no sign of frein. not for lack of trying, though.

200-plus law enforcement officials have been combing this heavily wooded area, looking at potential hiding spots, vacant cabins and camp sites. hunters tell me, the woods are so thick, it's very easy to hide someone, even if you're not trying. and if you have military-style training, like frein reportedly does, it becomes nearly impossible to detect someone. in the surrounding areas, there are signs everywhere that life is disrupted. wanted posters on business windows, schools closed like you said again today. and on edge, armed troopers guarding the barracks behind me. he's on the fbi's most wanted list. that's intensified the search. and there's the increase of the reward up to $175,000 right now. these are all law enforcement messages to frein that they're not giving up.

>> is there a sense of fear in the community right now, sarah? >> people here are definitely on edge, reverend. you know, you walk into the coffee shop and people are discussing if they think frein is in the area still. you walk into the gas station, and they're debating as to if he acted alone. this is what people are talking about right now. we talked to some people who say, they don't fear for their own safety. they feel frein is focused on law enforcement. so they fear for the troopers that serve their community. others say they do have concerns for their family's safety. we talked to one woman who said she couldn't help it, checking out the window. another man who said he kept looking over his shoulder while he was doing yard work. one thing they all agree on, they're ready for this to be over. >> jim, you're an expert on these kinds of things. what questions do you have? and if you were there on the scene, what are the questions and points you'd be raising? >> well, i think in the command

post they'll be doing those things, reverend al. they'll be looking at the behavior and the plans of frein. you know, he wants to kill. i mean, he wanted to get away when he shot the troopers, that's why he used this tactic of being a sniper. he's grown up as a marksman, he simulates war. he's in mission war murder mode. and he's been in the woods a week. it's not happened again for him. you know, he's eaten, you know, some mres, or some beans. he wants the confrontation. so i think what's going to happen, a few different ways it could go down. he may have set up in a cave, a barn, a vacation house, with some ambush points in front of it and he wants to draw the police in. if that doesn't come within his time frame, he may reach out to a road and shoot at a cruiser. there's plenty of police in the area. so he can easily shoot at officers or shoot at a radio car and draw the officers in. that's what he wants to do.

absent that, he could also move out and carjack a vehicle and try to change his location. but he really wants to press that confrontation. i would not be surprised if you see it soon. >> so it's a very dangerous situation, where anything -- i mean, it's an enormously dangerous situation, particularly for law enforcement. we're going to be following this. sarah and jim, thank you both for your time this evening. coming up, we'll switch gears and remember a legendary tv show that changed america and left us laughing. 30 years of "the cosby show," next. >> when i say who is it, and you say who it is. [ laughter ] who is it? >> who it is! [ laughter ] ew energy source.

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tomorrow marks the 30th anniversary of an american classic, the first broadcast of "the cosby show." the nbc sitcom aired for eight seasons and focused on the lives of the huxtables, an african american family living in brooklyn, new york. bill cosby was husband, father, and doctor. every week, millions tuned in to watch the show's common sense and hilarious take on parenting. >> what you need to do now is go to the next level, if you want justine back. >> what's that? >> begging. [ laughter ] >> i did it. i'm sorry, and i should be punished. >> we know it, we accept, and you will be. >> so i got everything i need, plus $200 left for the month. >> you plan to have a girlfriend?

>> for sure. [ laughter ] >> shut up! don't you dare open your mouth when i'm asking you a question. rudy, go to bed! >> and you're going to do it because i said so. i am your father. i brought you in this world, and i'll take you out. >> the show also became legendary for bill cosby's incredible sweaters, and of course his unique brand of comedic genius. >> and now, it's vibrating. i mean, this motor -- [ sound effects ] now, i look in the rearview mirror, and whatever i'm going to run over, there's 12 of them. ♪ ♪

>> oh, look at maria go. >> mr. clyde says -- [ shouting indiscernible ] >> the cosby shows also featured famous guest stars, like the time the huxtables got a lesson in sampling from stevie wonder. >> can you rap? >> yeah. >> let's have it. go at it one time. >> no. >> what would you say at a party? >> jamming on the one. >> jamming on the one. jjjjj jamming on the one. >> everybody watched "the cosby show." it crossed cultural boundaries, and 30 years later, the show still resonates. joining me now is dr. alvin pusant, harvard medical school,

professor, and consultant for "the cosby show." thank you for being here. >> thank you, reverend sharpton, al. >> it's been 30 years since it first aired. what kind of impact has the show had? >> well, it's had much more impact than anyone imagined. certainly we didn't think it was going to have the impact it had when the show started, but it was a great success, and it was different. it was one of the first times they really portrayed a black family in a very positive light, and without a bunch of stereotypes about black people. so it was also very educational, and it was real in the sense that it had believability, despite the fact that it was a sitcom. bill didn't want a lot of one-liners in the show. he wanted a show where there was a plot, a sitcom that stemmed from the family situation, that he could make funny, and then project it on the screen. and that was very, very, very different.

he told me, in fact, when i consulted on the scripts, and you know, sometimes i hesitated because i thought i was going to interfere with the humor in some of the scripts and he caught it and called me up and said, listen, you just try to give me the reality, the behavior, what seems real and believable. he said, i make it funny. and that turned out to be true. whatever i fed back to them, and he felt should be changed, he still came up with a humorous scene nonetheless. and that's his talent and ability and genius, if you want. >> genius, clearly. you consulted, you worked with him on scripts and content and casting. and what was it that dr. cosby and you were trying to communicate to america? >> well, we were trying to communicate that there was universal things between families, that people had the same aspirations, the same

issues. this show was translated in over 22 countries, because other countries could identify with what was happening in a family with children. it's kind of the basic unit, you know, in the world, for everyone. and i think that we're also trying to let them see that particularly black americans, there was a lot in common. we were struggling with the same issues, and we weren't a bunch of bafoons. that we were intelligent, pleasant, and so on. the other one was directed in many ways at the black community, for instance. cosby was trying to project education throughout the eight seasons. he was one of the few people on tv who began to talk about historically black colleges and sometimes it was a bit funny because i would vet the scripts sometimes and find the kids talking about oberlin or harvard or princeton, the other schools,

and i would put in there, listen, let's put in some historically black colleges, so he put in moore house and howard, and it showed what an effect that had. seems minor. i would go to work the next day, and people would say, what's this moor house school that you mentioned on television. so it educated all of america about the black experience. >> and the relationship, i want to get this in. the relationship between dr. and mrs. huxtable was a critical part of the shows success. let's watch this clip. >> let me say what i want to say. >> if i let you say it, you are going to say, let's get it the on. >> i love you, very, very much. it's a privilege to wake up in the morning and see your face. you are my life and i mean that.

>> oh, cliff, let's get it on. >> how important was it to show a healthy, loving marriage in the huxtable household? >> well, that was key. he wanted to have very positive relationships within the family and with his wife and she with him. and i think bill wanted to project too, that a two-parent household, a husband and a wife, was very, very crucial and critical. i think he was trying to model that for the rest of the nation and for the black community. that this would be so rewarding and in fact, he talked about that when the show first came on, the fact that we had a two-parent household, and he wasn't going to deal with all of the social issues that were plaguing the black community at the time. he wanted them to serve as a model for the future, for what the possibilities were. >> dr. alvin pusant, who was a

great part of this, thank you for your time tonight. and this show really changed america and changed people like me growing up watching it, and learning the impact of it and trying to aspire to be like it. have a great weekend. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. thank you. a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene. available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel, biotene can provide soothing relief, and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth.

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violence against women and allowed our culture to act as though this is something we can deal with later or in a hush hush way. we got to confront it, we should use this opportunity to confront and change something that is too readily accepted and excused. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton, have a great weekend. "hardball" starts right now. night of the generals. let's talk "hardball." ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. does this new war in iraq and syria make sense to you? does it sound right to you, that a campaign of air strikes will bring down a zealous army of 30,000-plus fanatics? that our pilots can kill enough of the