tv Weekends With Alex Witt MSNBC September 20, 2014 4:00am-5:01am PDT
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and when you are at st. andrews, who matter who is on the fairground in front of you, don't forget to say fore and cheers? have an accident weekend. manhunt overnight. drama in the search for a cop killer in the mountains of pennsylvania. are police any closer to making an arrest at this hour? a man jumps the fence at the white house and makes it a lot further than you would think without being stopped and this morning there are big questions. and then the fight against isis. u.s. and iran seemingly closer to some agreement. any answers? the roger goodell news conference, and we will hear the attempt to get past the huge nfl controversy. good morning, everyone. welcome the weekend's with alex wit.
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police are staking out an area where they are hoping to have a man suspected of last week's fatal ambush of a state trooper. 31-year-old eric frein is considered armed and very dangerous. sarah, what do we know about this search? >> reporter: good morning, alex. this is the eighth day of the search for eric frein, and the second very long night of neighborhood in this area on lockdown, and s.w.a.t. teams going through neighbors, and neighbors on edge tonight and 20 people overnight unable to return to their homes as law enforcement went door to door combing the neighborhoods. from what we have been hearing, road blocks here on the ground and helicopters in the skies, and everybody nervous and ready for the ordeal to be done with. information for the residents
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has been difficult to come by, and a lot of them relying on their cell phone and the connections are patchy up here, and it's adding to this fear in the neighborhoods. now, even before last night, frein was the topicic of conversation in town, and neighbors divided on if he is still in the area and what his next move would be. >> he is a survivalist, so what is he doing or living? >> that's the scary part, you don't know what his intentions are. even the schools -- just the public, you don't know. that's what worries everybody. >> reporter: this neighborhood where the search is going on right now, this is where frein lives with his parents. this is the second time the search has been in this area.
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the reward for his capture has been increased to $175,000, the search expanding to the entire state and it leads five states. police want to get this guy and give neighbors relief as well as law enforcement. >> what you have heard about gun reports in the area last night? >> reporter: yeah, dispatch confirmed shots fired. we hopefully will get an update soon. hunters were asked not to fire their weapons in the woods, and the police wanted to focus on frein and not spend time chasing down false reports, and as for the shots at 6:40 last night, we
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are waiting for an update on who may have pulled the trigger on that weapon. >> thank you. appreciate that. developing overnight, secret service officials tell nbc news that a man jumped over the white house fence just after 7:00 last night and made it all the way inside the front door before he was apprehend. reporters were evacuated from the area. the first family was not home at the time. we will have more details from the white house in just a few moments for you. and then analyzing a propaganda isis video. the film is highly produced and narrated by a man that appears to have an american accent. >> the flames of the war -- >> 49 turkish hostages are being held by isis, although they were
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back home safe in turkey today, and that group included children and diplomats, and they were taken three years ago. american fighter jets bombed isis targets on thursday and friday taking out a unit of militants as well as a supply boat. and then the u.s. may be getting closer to working with iran on isis. kerry said iran has a role against the terrorists group. >> it's about taking out an entire network, decimating and discrediting a militant cult masquerading as a religious movement. the fact is, there's a role for nearly every country in the world to play. including iran. >> joining me with now, the medal honor resippant, and jack,
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welcome. the propaganda video, pretty credible. perhaps most importantly, it sounds like it's narrated by an american. what is your takeaway there? >> we have a fairly substantial muslim population in this country and it's not -- it's not silly to assume they would be able to find somebody to do this. we know in fact muslims from the united states have gone over to fight with isis, not in as large numbers as from europe, but there are americans over that and we know that to be true. isis is really good at public relations. they have been good about it from the very beginning. they had a public relations plan to coincide with their ground
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tactical plan, and they have executed both with a great deal of expertise and professionalism. this is one heck of a video, i must say, even for somebody who had planned on doing this, but i think we can expect more of this from them. >> let's talk about what secretary kerry is saying, and he says iran has a role in this. is it beneficial for u.s./iran cooperation to be out there publicly? is it better for them to work together in the shadows and publicly maintain the distance that we do? >> i think you got it, one, there's a lot of public pronouncements from the united states and iran saying we will never work together and we have different interests, and say whatever you want to to keep your populations happy in the
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public, but in the background you have to work together. iran is going to have to be part of the solution in getting rid of isis, so if we don't work with them i think neither the united states nor iran is going to be very happy with the outcome. >> all right. thank you so much for calling in. appreciate that. >> you are very welcome. we are going down to the other big story of the day. goodell promising the way the league handles players involved in domestic violence. peter alexander was there and has more. the reaction to the much-anticipated news conference ranged from blistering to not impressed. former new england patriot weighed in on espn. >> roger goodell needs to step down and move on and we need new leadership. >> the commissioner started with an apology. >> i got it wrong in the handling of the ray rice matter.
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and i'm sorry for that. >> promised to do better. if any of the victims had been somebody you love, would you be satisfied with the way the league has handled this crisis and what would you say to them? >> i am not satisfied with the way we handled it from the get go. i made a mistake. >> goodell pledged within the next month all team and personnel will take part in education sessions on domestic violence and sexual assault. he vowed to overhaul the personal conduct policy. >> nothing is off the table. >> goodell announced long-term plans to partner with the hotline, which has seen its calls skyrocket when the ray rice video became public. >> this pledge is transformational for us as an organization. >> it may not be enough for the thousands of fans who lined up to trade in the ray rice
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jerseys. but in spite of the scrutiny, goodell won't step down. >> i have the support of the owners. that has been clear to me. they obviously expect us to do a better job. and in other news, the most sweeping lockdown against disease since the middle ages. the west african country tries to get ebola outbreak under control. they are going house to house and that lockdown runs through sunday. emergency landing in southern california caused plane debris to nearly hit a woman on the beach. the metal crashed in the sand a few feet away from me. >> it's amazing it didn't hit me or anybody else. a month ago it's so crowded down
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there at the huntington beach, it could have hit somebody. >> the faa has not confirmed it came from the jetblue fight that was forced to land. the long lines at the apple store. you see tim cook visiting customers that lined up for days. that store sold out the iphone 6 in three hours. and things are sure not going to be quiet down south with the weather. keith carson is here with the weather channel. >> we have a couple areas to watch. in the midwest, storms rolling through. des moines through omaha but we could see a few strong to severe storms through chicago, kansas city and detroit. the possibility of strong straight line winds and hail. let's go to the northeast, because it's cool this morning. look at bangor, maine, sitting at 36 degrees.
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and burlington was in the 30s with the hard frost yesterday morning, and today is a beautiful day. a lot of sunshine up and down the 95 corridor. things will be changing as we head into tomorrow. here is the forecast from boston, new york, down to d.c., it's cool to start but we have a lot of sunshine this year, and the sun angle strong so we get temperatures to pop in the low 80s in d.c., and probably 70s in new york city and maybe not getting out of the 60s in boston, but they will see a lot of sunshine at least. by tomorrow, the jet stream digs down and we have a cold front advancing and moisture coming in from the gulf of mexico. it is a humid day tomorrow. reminder that summer is not totally over. that will put a damper on it, things getting cooler as we head into the beginning of the workweek. temperatures behind it. so certainly today the better of your two weekend days and then things falling apart on sunday.
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alex, before i go, i want to tell you they are making snow into the mountains -- >> yes! >> you are into that? >> i am into skiing is what i am into. >> i am too. i think it's a pr move, because temperatures are going back in the 70s after sunday, so it will melt. >> that was a good heads up. appreciate it, keith. the man that jumped the white house fence and made it through the white house doors is under arrest this morning. the secret service said the man managed to get inside the doors before he was apprehended. let's go to kristin welker. >> how did he managed to get that far? >> reporter: alex, it's stunning and secret service trying to answer that this morning. i was here when he caused the secret service to evacuate the
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entire press corp. this is the first time it happened in my time in covering the white house and there's no indication this type of security breach has happened in recent history. we have video capturing dramatic moments of the man running across the lawn. the 42-year-old gonzalez of texas jumped the fence last night at 7:20 p.m. and made it all the way up the north lawn and was apprehended inside the north doors. our news photographer also captured video of secret service trying to stop the man. secret service officials say gonzalez did not appear to be armed and was not holding a bag or backpack, and the first family had already left for camp david. now gonzalez was taken to the hospital for evacuation, and officials say he may have been mentally disturbed. no shots fired and nobody hurt. that's the good news in all of this.
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fence stoppers are normally stopped as soon as they jump the fence. the secret service will view the response to insure the proper protocol is followed. i will toss it back to you. >> you might be having kickback in your ear. i will not give you questions this time, but next time. >> thanks. governor cuomo sets up security issues here. why authorities believe they may be closing in on a suspect for the missing university student. arthritis symptoms but u have arthritis, this can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain, so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier.
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video of the man jumping the fence and making it all the way through the front doors. he is now under arrest. president obama and his family were not at the home at the time but there were places being evacuated. let's go to our guests. can you believe this story? can you believe this guy made it all that way? lynn, if you never have been to the white house, explain to people, it's a distance to travel. >> the front of the white house, it's a wonderful display of the open democracy. the white house is not a castle on a mote. people stand there and take pictures all the time. the fence is pretty high. he managed to get over it, and then there's a part between the sidewalk and the white house, and it's a long way to run without being apprehended by an officer. there are officers all over the place. we go through all kinds of security just to get in there,
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and that's why it's going to be controversy among republicans in congress who are trying to investigate the secret service for some issues that they have already piled up. but it's a strong sprint. it takes -- i don't know how long this gentleman took, but usually people are tackled right away and at issue is how this guy managed to get inside. that's the remarkable and stunning part of this story. >> we will see what the secret service comes up with as an explanation. >> and then let's talk about the debate over arming syrian rebels. >> i believe this program is the best chance we have to bring about an negotiation political solution in syria. >> i have reservations to equipped and train the so-called moderate rebels. >> i believe we can't ignore the threat from isil and because i believe the strategy that the
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president proposed is probably the best option available to us at this time. >> we have a poor track record in determining who our friends are in the past. have an excellent weekend good i will have to tell you the people we rely on for that vetting i don't have any confidence in. >> equipped and train, we did such a good job in iraq. >> dripping is sarcasm there. do you get a sense it can work? >> not at all. what is incredible, alex, we spoke with dozens in the senate, and you could have removed the party affiliation from the names that voted yes and you would not have been able to tell the difference. everybody holding their noses over this has they did it and what is going to become a bigger concern, the house spent six hours debating this and the
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senate five hours debating this, and about seven minutes of the five-hour debate was devoted to praising the baltimore orioles. you can see how seriously congress took their duties in the past week and it's potentially a real problem for them if things don't go well or if they are able to come up with a less serious long term solution in the lame duck session, and there's no guarantee you will get democrats and republicans who have been unable to agree to suddenly agree to a long-term military solution. this was a stunning example of sort of lessons learned from 13 years ago. everybody running around saying, gosh, we have to be more cautious and think about this, and we don't want to go into this without thinking about it, but they didn't spend time debating this, and it's going to come back to bite them. >> that description, the last part there, and ed said they are
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all holding their noses over there, and this is the only option the president had? is this the only thing he could do? >> yeah, this is the only option for congress on the table. a lot of members who are skeptical of this proposal voted for it because it only runs through december 11th, which is past the election. coupled with this is a growing demand from members of both parties to have a vote to reauthorize eyes the president to take military action in this area, and with the time, with just these few weeks between now and december 11th, even some of the supporters said let's see how this works out. so because it's so short, alex, and that's a reason the white house was able to get people on board. >> alex, you know, they had their chance here. again, there is no guarantee there will be a debate or passage of something during the lame duck, because, again, how
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do you get anti-war house tkepls and skeptical republicans and hawkish senate republicans in less than two months on something like military action in iraq. they have conceded their authority by not doing something now and it could be the president has to continue without congressional -- >> well, they want to kick the can tkaoupb the road. as ed said, this is a very unusual set of alliances crisscrossing party lines. e ed, i know you were covering the hearings. what is the most alarming thing you heard about isis this week? >> you heard it from democrats and republicans, this idea of how on earth are we going to vet and train a bunch of people in a
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part of the world that doesn't already like us and expect them to stick with us, and not use any training and weapons that we provide them against us some day, and how do we know the groups we are working with aren't more interesting in taking the assad regime than isis? nobody has a good answer to that. and repeatedly you would hear, do you have a better idea what i don't? if this is it, we have to work with it. >> i can't say it sits well with me, but i appreciate it, gaze. and then what happens when isis takes over a city? here is a hint. they have traffic cops. g better that's the way i look at life. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin, but wondered if i kept digging, could i come up with something better.
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>> historic. the biggest in american history. the stock debuted at $68 and went up 38% all the way to $93.89. it really was kind of wild. when you look at the market capitalization, that puts it in the league with the walmarts of the world, and the founder now has cult status. he has become almost a sam walton and henry ford type of figure, and it's also interesting because not only is he now really per shawn tpaoeuing business in china, here they come in the tech world. if you look at internet based businesses, they have been largely u.s. sepb trick. suddenly, they are bigger than all of them and some of them combined and it's not u.s. based. >> it's extraordinairyextraordi development. there is the new study between
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the gap between the rich and the poor. >> yeah, it's described as the island of extremes. the top 5% which makes 88 times as much as the bottom 20%. really significant. 45% of people in manhattan spend more than 45% of their income on housing, and the major's legacy, and perhaps prompting a discussion. it's really hard to get money to the middle, and of course that's exacerbated. the rich get richer. it does not seem to trickle down. here is some, not even officially fall and we are seeing a christmas ad from k-mart. let's roll it. >> hello america, it's too early for christmas so just to be
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clear it's not a christmas commercial, however let's say you have an event in late december that you need a lot of gifts for. like maybe your entire family is having a birthday on the same day. now is the time to go to k mart and put the gifts on lay away. >> that got 3 million hits this week. we saw toys "r" us and target come out with hot lists, too. does it help the retailers at this point? >> it does. they are being company about it. layaway is time sensitive. customers that use it are financi financially if aware. it's a bit of a land grab. and here is their hiring bing. 70,000 seasonal workers at target, and 60,000 at walmart. that's up 10% year over year. target says 40% of the people
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are based on last year, and stick around, they become targets. that's good news. and then how isis decides who lives and die? and why the age of 12 is very important to the terrorist group. the occupy movement spreads overseas to hong kong. >> i think, you know, like it's important for the outside world especially foreign press to know about the true hong kong. guys! you're not gonna believe this!
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for spacex to delay its launch this morning. it was due to deliver more supplies and a printer to the space station. and a nypd was choking on the cough drop. the officer noticed her and he performed the heimlich maneuver and that saved her life. well done. police are staking out an area where they hope to find the man accused of shooting a trooper. nearby areas remain on lockdown and residents are on edge. joining me for more on the manhunt, jim cavanagh. is this a typical suspect search? this guy has been on the run for a week and they are looking for
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him in a very rural area. >> right, alex. it's typical to try and corner an armed suspect in a rural area that is extremely violent and wants to shoot it out with the police. that's why there are so many tactical teams and trs teams, and they may have him corners as the reports came in last night. >> why do you think he may be cornered? >> well, they had reports of shots exchanged with the police last night in an area not far from where he lived and his parents lived, but it's not clear if they have him nailed in. even if he broke in a house to get food, he could have exchanged fire and run back into the woods. he has been out there a week, so he might need food and he could break in somewhere to try to get some provision. >> you talk about the parents. the father says he is an
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excellent shot, apaeurparently. there are guns missing from the home so that could exchange gunfire if that's what it's related to. what causes a person to go from having a grudge to attacking somebody and killing them? >> well, when you start off with people that eric frein spent 190 days in the county jail and that's not a pleasant experience in the county jail for three months and people react different ways. he apparently developed some kind of deep animosity between law enforcement over this, and that's the only thing people can come up with. his shooting skills, and he has
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a compulsive desire to strike out. it's a sad case. we lost a great trooper and another wounded and it's awful. the test is can he be stopped before he kills again, because he wants to kill? he has weaknesses as well. we talk about his strengths, and he's a would-be sniper who is a chain-smoker and that's not good if you are trying to hide from s.w.a.t. >> no. >> he will be caught or killed, and let's hope he doesn't kill before he is captured. and i want to talk about the case of the university of virginia student that went missing a week ago. police announce they have a person of interest. it's a man in the bar with the student the night she disappeared. >> it's great detective work. it went from a guy that was seen walking with hanna, and they
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said another man was with hanna, and so now they have the second man walking with hanna with his arm around her waist, and witnesses saw her in a bar with the man, and they centered in on a car that he left the bar in, and they are trying to get forensics from the car, so if there is fingerprints from her or blood and hair, say in the trunk of the car, she could have been assaulted or killed. she could be alive as well. there's always hope when somebody is not found. they are working it with for hard. but what it cries out for, alex, to me, you need to have officers in the bar areas and in the seven-block bistro area at night and there needs to be two patrolman up, and fathers need to give the police money to do it, because if you had walking men and women officers you would have found her before anybody else did, and that would have
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been the thing to stop it before it gets going. >> if you are a young woman out on a night like that, try to go with a friend. walking by yourself, you can be a target. sad to say, but it's the truth. thank you so much. will it take for july 7th for an answer in the brown case? (male announcer) it's happening.
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in this week's office politics, chris was following the activities of al qaeda years before the terror group became a household name in the wake of 9/11, so i asked him if today's threat from isis can be overstated? >> people who say the threat is overrated tend to say there is no actual intelligence and that's to say that there is no address where we know these guys are planning this attack at this place at this time.
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there is no actionable intelligence in that sense, but in the broad sense, there's information about the wealth and its intentions, and it's the wealthiest group we have ever faced, and it has a territory that it can use as a strategic depth, which most don't have, and for one obvious example, the way they make their beheading videos, as repulsive as those are, if you watch them, if you watched ten years ago, when the founder of that group was beheading people a. lot of people including several americans and british, and one woman aide worker, and beheaded them on camera and you could not watch it. it was so grotesque. anybody that can watch game of
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thrones can watch this, and that's the exactly the kind of game they play. they want to disseminate their truly barberous view of the world. >> do they love the fact that we are saying this? >> of course they love the fact that we are saying they are the enemy. part of their game is to suck the united states into a war with them. they see themselves as fighters against the crusade. this is a really strange word to use when describing terrorists, but it's really important. schivelry. islamic nights as well as christian knights. they are trying to provoke a new crusade. that's their mind-set.
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>> of all the horrific things you have heard about this group what is the most alarming to you? >> what is really disturbing, when they, for instance, take over areas of unbelievers, they kill the boys over 12 and they take the ones under 12. so they can mold them. >> indoctrinate them. >> they think over 12 the kids are too old to indoctrinate. so they just slaughter them. >> what does it looks like when isis controls a city? >> they have their own local traffic cops, and they take the administration and put it in place again, if it's loyal to them, if they are sunnis. occasionally to make a point, they will stone somebody to death. they did that recently. they took a man who had committed some offense and they gathered lots of people around them and made a little crowd and then they stoned him to death.
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it was as a means of telling people we are still in charge. you can suffer terrible consequences if you go against us. >> when president barack obama took office, there was a lot of hope that would quell some of the disturbances in the arab world that would be seen as a positive thing. what has happened? >> if you go back to obama's speech in cairo in his first year as president, the summer of 2009, i think that he was -- had a very effective idea about how he wanted to build new relations with the muslim world. i think he understood clearly that american troops occupying muslim countries was a very bad idea and the best thing he could do was to get out of afghanistan and get out of iraq as quickly as he could. a lot of people, a lot of pressure from congress from his own military told him, don't get
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this grand jury initially had until october. >> yeah, and now it's for three months. how long is the grand jury process normally for a potential murder case? >> it's a long process, alex. one of the reasons for that is because there is multiple cases being heard at the same time. it's not just this one. the grand jury is responsible for numerous cases. you could probably expect this case could go on for another month. that would not be unusual. >> don't you think a high profile case would be pushed to the front of the pack.
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>> look, you have played both sides here, so which side benefits usually when this goes on so i can tell you as a crimi defense attorney, the fact they are doing actual transcripts in the grand jury is a great thing for criminal defense attorneys but the longer it goes on, it doesn't matter with a grand jury. i can tell you as an attorney we say a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. so that really is the way it goes, which is one of the reasons that in this case that a lot of eyebrows are being raised at the fact it's not really going through the normal steps and normal courses as far as no recommendations, but remember, this is also a jurisdiction that has elected prosecutors. so they have to answer to the public. you're going to get those extra added layers of, you know -- more procedure. >> and any surprise on your part that officer darren wilson testified for four hours on tuesday? >> no, no, because again, this
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is such a high profile case. you would want him to testify because obviously he's going to say that i didn't do anything inappropriate. it was police procedure. yes, it was horrific. but this is what i was thinking at the time. so the fact that he is testifying is a good sign on his part, meaning that he's going to try to take the emotion out of it and state his case as a police officer and that it was a judgment call and there wasn't any of this wrongful intent on his part. >> your time as a prosecutor, karen, did you ever not recommend charges to a grand jury and leave it up to them? >> most of the time prosecutors will say we want first degree murder. but again, alex, we're dealing -- i was an attorney an am still an attorney in new jersey, which we don't have elected prosecutors. the fact that this is an elected prosecutor, you really do want to answer to the people. he's leaving it up to the grand jurors. listen, i'm giving them all of information, here it is, you
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