we're going to take you live to the streets of new york to so what exactly do the activists want? new details emerging on how a man can leap the fence and sprint right through to the front door. joining us in this video, if not, will a thousand searchers be able to uncover clues in the disappearance of a virginia college student. and it's a topic not being talked about in the nfl's domestic violence controversy. how this soccer star fit into the picture? >> hey there, everyone, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we have new reaction today after a man with a knife jumped a white house fence making it through the front door before he was apprehended.

>> i have great respect for the secret service, but this is inexcusable he went over the fence. to run across the lawn, a dog can be released in four seconds. there's sensors working there, and then made it all the way to the white house actually entered the front door. >> nbc's kristen welker at the white house. so kristen, with a welcome, we were talking about this all day yesterday. i expected some fallout today. what's it like? >> oh, there is, alex. secret service director has launched a full-scale investigation. she has also enhanced patrols and surveillance along pennsylvania avenue while the investigation continues. we're also learning more about the suspect, 42-year-old omar gonzalez. he was at a bail hearing on saturday facing a number of charges, including unlawful entry while holding a dangerous weapon. a law enforcement official tells me he had a 4-inch knife in his pocket when he jumped over this fence. we've also learned he's an iraq war veteran.

he served from 2006 to 2008. he's being held pending a monday court date. meanwhile, there was outrage on capitol hill as you heard from congressman peter king. also, the chairman of the homeland security committee in the house mike rogers saying that something needs to change with the agency. take a listen. >> and i think what you have seen is that they're not doing their audits, checks, their test runs to make sure that people are up to the right standard. we see this a lot. it happens frequently in other places where there are static security forces. and it's just a matter of the secret service upping their game to make sure that they can maintain that every detail matters. >> reporter: alex, i spoke with a former secret service agent who said one of the key questions here is why weren't the dogs dispatched? normally you see the dogs let loose. that stopped any potential intruder in their tracks. that didn't happen on friday.

so the secret service is going to have to determine why. one former official telling me it is possible that resources were diverted to the other side of the white house because president obama had just departed. so those are some of the key questions that are going to be a part of this investigation. meanwhile, a white house official tells me that president obama has full confidence in the secret service. i asked if anyone would lose their job over this at this point, law enforcement official tells me that the agency is just focused on the investigation and getting it right. >> i believe the president left the white house about four minutes before this accident happened. it makes sense researchers would have been deployed to the other side. the other big story today, the u.s. ambassadors to the united nations offering explanation on why it's important to arm moderate syrian rebels to combat isis. >> the free syrian army and other moderate forces have been fighting isil since december.

they have pushed isil out of strategic areas. they have been fighting isil and taking the fight to isil on the one hand and then also fighting a regime backed by hezbollah, russia, et cetera. so we think with an infusion of support, these fighters who have actually held their own against this wide array of actors fighting on all fronts will be in a much stronger position both to go after isil and to put pressure on the regime so we can get back to the negotiating table for a political solution. >> and joining me now with more "washington post" reporter greg miller. is ambassador power correct? have the rebels pushed isil out of strategic areas? >> well, i don't think, i think isil has expanded a lot of its holdings over the last six months, it'd be hard to argue they've been forced to relinquish very much if at all. they still hold syria, which is sort of their home territory, obviously took over large cities in iraq, including mosul. and although, you know, there is

a lot of this administration plan comes down to supporting the moderate rebel factions. i mean, the cia has been secretly arming and training them for a couple of years now and has not accomplished very much. >> you know, last year, greg, when the obama administration announced its initial plan to honor the rebels, it was to go after the assad government, now it's to go after isis. is the u.s. certain that the rebels share the same goals now? >> well, right. i mean, so, they're stuck in the middle of this fight between the assad government and isil. not only isil, but other hard line groups, al qaeda's affiliate there. one of the constraints since the beginning has been this really deep concern about how can you develop trust and the forces you're working with and delivering arms to. that's been a huge barrier for the united states and that's something that looms now as this effort ramps up. >> and the vetting process. what does that look like? >> well, i mean, so far, it's been a secret vetting process

because a covert program carried out by the cia. but the process involves fighters having to come out of syria and going through brief training programs at camps in jordan and possibly in turkey. and being evaluated by the agency as they go through that. now i would imagine that the defense department will do something similar. the director of national intelligence. he said there's another little known terrorist group that poses an equal threat. what do you know about them? >> well, we don't know a lot. it's a tiny cell. we know that the leader is a figure close with bin laden, quite a long time ago, he spent a number of years in iran after fleeing afghanistan, after the u.s. invasion there. and was part of this small al qaeda cell or group that had -- that had lived and been held

under some sort of house arrest in iran before leaving under very uncertain conditions several years ago. so now, there is real concern this is a cell that's in syria taking advantage of the chaos there. and unlike isil or isis, as you said, is actually committed to and thinking and putting energy toward plotting attacks against the west. >> yeah. and on the heels of that, recently. i spoke with jonathan deanst, two reporters deeply versed in terrorism like yourself. and they have said they have not seen this much chatter and threat warnings since the months before 9/11. do you get that sense, too? >> well, i don't think anybody has been talking about actual threat chatter that points at plots that are underway targeting the united states. in fact, we've heard testimony from senior obama administration officials in recent weeks saying there's no indication that isis is doing that. and not a lot of evidence that others are. but, i mean, the chaos here

makes it very hard for intelligence agencies to have a lot of confidence in some of these assessments. it's very difficult to gather intelligence in syria, just as it is almost impossible for reporters to do any reporting inside syria. the picture there is very murky. >> greg miller, though, thanks for bringing us what we do know. appreciate it. other news now. no injuries were reported from the 121 tourists onboard. the coast guard rescued those passengers and boats and brought them to safety. the massive northern california wildfires continue to rage on today. nearly 81,000 acres have burned, only about 10% of it has been contained. this despite a record amount of retardants used to fight that fire. 2,800 people have been evacuated so far. 37-year-old wayne alan huntsman pleaded not guilty to an arson charge on friday. a sprint car driver died after crashing during practice at a wisconsin dirt track the

47-year-old's car bumped another driver and flipped three times before crashing into a concrete wall. it appeared to be an accident. organizers later canceled that race. it is day nine in the hunt for a suspected police killer in the remote part of northeast pennsylvania. hundreds of heavily armed police using extreme caution today. they're scouring the area looking for any signs of eric. he is wanted for the ambush murder of a state trooper. continuing to cover this story now. in front of a church that canceled services, apparently because of security concerns. a huge impact on the residents. how are they handling it? >> it was a very big impact, alex, as you said. and a bit of cabin fever people are beginni inning to experienc. after 24 hours without any explanation. although, they are still cautioning people in the barrett townships to stay in their homes. and so, indoors with doors and

windows locked. they're encouraging them to light their yards, as well, at night and stay out of the woods where authorities are searching right now. you can really see this ripple effect throughout the community. as you said, this church behind me canceled services today, as did one up the street. businesses are hit and miss. some choosing to close out of safety concerns and also a lack of customers. the bottom line is that everyone in this area is just ready for this entire ordeal to be over. >> they might be keeping secrets to keep us safe. but you have to tell us something. i understand you have to do your job. you also have to let us know what's going on. >> lots of people's homes, can't go home in time. tired of it. worried about my wife and my animals and everything. >> i hope they find them soon just so people can get back to their normal routine. >> reporter: and pennsylvania state police just told me that they do still believe that frein is in the area and they're going to go into detail later today.

this is information that the public here is hungry for following nine uneasy days and nights. back to you. >> you can about imagine. i want to look together at a map of the area that police believe he could be hiding. and if you look at it, it is a very remote neighborhood, surrounded on all sides by thick wood. how much harder is the topography making this search? >> reporter: very difficult. i talked to a man familiar with the area. he likes to get in the back country. he says you wouldn't be able to see someone 30 feet from you, let alone if that person was trying to hide from you. the woods are thick, the terrain is uneven, caves and crevices. it is pain staking work and barrett and price township, that is about 75 square miles. that's a lot of difficult ground these investigators and officials have to cover right now. >> absolutely. especially if they're going 30 feet by 30 feet. okay. thanks much. let's turn now to the

weather and the heavy rains in the southwest. several drivers were stranded after a river embankment gave out. the remnants of hurricane odile. then in mexico, the resort of los cabos still reeling from the storm. the tropical storm moving further from land. the weather channel's alex wallace is here with the forecast. hi, alex. >> good sunday to you, alex. as we follow the threat for storms, a little bit farther east. it was the midwest on saturday. now we head to the northeast. we've got a bit of a dip in the jet stream, a trough and out ahead that moisture surging northward. a cold front for us. that's going to help to lift the warm and moist air up in the atmosphere and get these thunderstorms going. some that could be strong to severe. we're going to be watching these areas here. up through the chain and working up in the eastern lakes. these storms may not hold together the severity as they work toward the corridor. we'll have to watch out later today. early afternoon here in that red. damaging wind as well as that

threat for some hail. meanwhile, we still have all the wet weather potential here in the western part of the nation. at least the southwest here into texas. still have a bit of a frontal boundary. moisture coming in from the pacific as well as the gulf of mexico. then on top of that, we've got an upper level disturbance hanging around, also going to aid in the development of more rain. could dump heavy downpours across the area that could lead to flooding problems. heading to the overnight hours, a good chunk of new mexico could be dealing with rain from albuquerque, working over towards the hobbs area, as well, there. we'll watch for flooding, plus the heat in the northwest. that continues, temperatures well above average. alex, back to you. >> okay. i'll take it, thank you so much. ahead, double standard, the domestic violence case that no one is talking about. when hair loses protein, it splits. pantene helps stop split ends before they start. so your hair passes the needle test. get hair so healthy you shine, with pantene.

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against a backdrop of scandal, tens of millions in america will watch nfl football today. but when the games are over, expect scandal to retake the headlines. in fact, this week, the baltimore ravens will address an espn report on ray rice. the report claims key figures in the ravens organization knew from the outset that rice had knocked out his then fiancee. the article also says the team went to great lengths to make sure rice's case did not go to trial. the videotape would not become public. nbc news, though, has not verified the espn report details. the raven said the report, quote, contains numerous errors, inaccuracies, false assumptions and, perhaps, misunderstandings. and then there was that news conference on friday. well, joining me to talk about this is goldie taylor. and kate fagan. we're going to mention that kate was not part of the espn team that did this report. goldie, you first. it is football sunday. i'm going to start with this. there was an nbc poll that says 85% of the people will still

watch just as much football. just 12% might watch less because of the scandal. that's this week. is there a point where that support will erode? or do you think it's too much a part of people's lives? particularly on sundays. >> i think football really is an american pass time. and i don't believe that some of the people who eroded away this week over the particular scandal will stay away. i think if you're a football fan, you really are a football fan. i don't think they'll stay away. but the challenge for the nfl is the assault to its brand reputation. the challenge for them is the assault to the sponsor's brand reputation. and those do mean real dollars. that means the cost per attendan attendance. how much money do i spend in how many times do i click on the commercial? it does make a difference in those poll numbers. but over time, will we see these numbers really sort of stick? i'm not sure they will. that is, unless, the nfl fails to get its house in order. >> kate, let's talk about the

roger goodell news conference. i'm looking at the article he wrote here. and here's the title. the prince of park avenue, roger goodell is a spokesman for the nfl's billionaires. he writes, quote, at every turn he's prioritized money over safety and that is exactly what 31 owners pay him to do. is that fair? >> yeah. it's absolutely fair. i think that's probably why we've seen the nfl take the stance they've taken on domestic violence. they had dozens and dozens of opportunities to put in stricter penalties or to come down harsh on previous nfl players who have had domestic violence allegations. and the nfl never wanted to forward on this issue. we know 4 out of 5 according to studies. and, yeah, of course, those 32 owners have this opportunity to fix the situation before it got to this point. and they didn't. and it was because of business. they wanted that money and they

knew that key demographic was not one going to get broiled in domestic violence awareness and education. >> and they also think they don't want to see an outcome without adrian peterson, look how poorly that team played. they don't want to see that happened. >> absolutely. you're talking about all they care about is getting wins and making money. and i -- you're hearing like the gm of the panthers and they're dealing with the greg hardy case who was convicted of domestic violence is now appealing. he says we promise we are trying to get it right. and at a point, you can believe him. the problem is that they don't know what's right. they didn't know what was right for years and years right to them was getting a inting away least amount of punishment and getting guys back on the field. >> do you think roger goodell is worse off? >> i think he is. until then, there was an opportunity for him to knock it out of the park with that press conference. just like adam silver. >> right. sure. >> with the donald sterling controversy. he steps to the podium, he hits

a home run and everybody's like. nba got it right. adam silver got it right. goodell had that opportunity, but he just did not bring the right tone. >> golden ie, i want to take a look and mention another item in the espn report that has gone overlooked. here it is. no player did more for the community than ray rice. and no player on the team embraced the city of baltimore the way he did. he's raised millions for sick children. he's urged the passage of antibullying legislation. it goes on and on and on. do you think this explains why ravens officials might have fought for leniency in his case? and do you think he deserves more of a chance? >> actually, i don't think that's -- those things are done by every nfl team, a myriad of players and it's about investing in what we call a reservoir of good will. it's about brand building from the start. and so do i believe a lot of these players are doing a lot of these charities out of the goodness of their heart?

no, it strengthens the personal brand and the brand of the nfl. do i think they wanted them to be more lenient on him because of them. i think they did a cost benefit analysis. and said this means ticket sales, it means wins. and so, i think every sanction. and nearly every corporation, by the way, not just the nfl. when we get ready to sanction an employee, we do a cost benefit analysis on how much revenue is at risk in the more valuable that asset that human being is to us, the less likely we are to make sure that sanction keeps them out of work, out of the supply chain. but at the same time, we balanced it against the backlash we think we're going to receive, you know, from our constituents. and in terms of nfl and roger goodell said we got this wrong. he meant we stirred a backlash that may cost us. i don't think he thought he got the sanction itself wrong. i think that he misjudged what kind of backlash he was going to get. and made a course correction. >> real quick. i want to get -- >> suspension is not out of line with what the nfl had been giving for domestic violence.

>> that's right. so, you know, it wasn't like really that difficult from what they had been doing. >> yeah. >> get to the hope solo. it's kind of a wrinkle here with this story. she's a soccer star, she's facing charges for having punched her sister and nephew. soccer is turning a blind eye toward domestic violence. do you think we're going to see other teams scrutinize this issue more closely? >> well, it's in the cross hairs, the whole situation happened five months ago and we haven't talked about it much. and it's very nuanced. you really get into it. a 17-year-old nephew, a history of family issues there if you've read hope's book. but at the end of the day, we can't be calling for ray rice to not play and greg hardy not play and nfl guys to be benched if we're not going to hold our female athletes to the same standard. and we'll add, though, honestly, what plays into this is how little we pay attention to

women's sports in general. that's part of the reason this has flown below the radar. hope solo wasn't that important to that many people just like female athletes aren't until this domestic violence issue comes to the forefront. and now we're like, is there a double standard? no, we don't pay attention to women's sports as much as we do, and now we are. and yes, u.s. soccer. it's not like u.s. soccer has a history of domestic violence responding poorly to it and not as if women's sports has a history of it. there are differences in the two. but, yes, they should bench her until she gets this figured out. >> i appreciate that. thanks, ladies. "the daily beast" foreign editor, why the movie "deliverance" is so personal to him. but first, we're going live to central park where supporters are expecting the largest climate change march ever. looking for something better. that's the way i look at life. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem.

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in new york city. in 162 countries today over 100,000 people are expected to rally here in new york city. and that is where we find msnbc. hey, what's the latest there? we've got a lot of people gathered. >> yeah, organizers projected it would be over 100,000 people and it's hard for me to get a sense of the exact scale of it, but it's clear, there are tens of thousands, maybe over 100,000. maybe well over 100,000 here. and it started to move not too long ago. right now headed toward 11th avenue and 34th street. >> so when people you've spoken with, ned, what are some of the things they want to see happen? what's the change they're looking for? >> well, it's a lot of things. and i think it's important there aren't any specific policy demands being made in this march. people are not especially optimistic about the u.n. summit coming up on tuesday possibly because there are no demands or any hope of a binding treaty coming out of that.

but, you know, i spoke to people who want federal policy, changes in international law. you have people who are talking about just doing things in their own communities. i talk to people who really want more urban farming to happen. i think people here want stand changes at every single level. it's unprecedented, politically and cultural sea change. >> and i know that activists are going to do a sit-in. a massive one, reportedly on wall street is expected. they do not have a permit to be there. things could get interested with police. what are you hearing about tomorrow? >> well, i spoke to a couple of people who are former occupy protesters. one person from occupy denver, and what they said was they want to take it to wall street and in their words flood wall street because they want to sort of give a simulation of what it's going to be like when climate change and rising sea levels cause wall street to flood. and they're certainly not looking forward to getting arrested tomorrow, but the people i spoke to said they're

prepared to get arrested if that's what happens. >> i'm curious, you're indicating to me people are cynical about this united nations climate summit. you have a lot of global leaders, activists, celebrities and the like that are trying to bring focus to all of this. leo dicaprio will be there, al gore, among many others. why do you think it is they don't expect anything real to come from it? >> well, i think because much like the march, the climate summit itself is more about a demonstration of political will and not an actual policy change itself. for a binding treaty, we'll have to wait until paris 2015. now, of course, the last climate summit in copenhagen also did not lead to much, particularly substantive change. so the hope is not so much that something substantive will happen on tuesday, but that the combination of what happens on tuesday and what happens today will give world leaders a sense that there's real political and popular will on the side of doing something major.

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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." hundreds are expected to turn out for day two in the search of a missing virginia student. hannah graham vanished over a week ago and now those in her community are rallying, trying to find her. halle jackson is joining me with more. good afternoon. how many folks were out there yesterday? >> about 1,100 alex. and we have some new information to share with you. there will be a press conference with the charlottesville police

chief at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. just a couple of hours from now. we understand about 65% of the search area was searched yesterday. so today, the goal is to get through that remaining 35%. i'll tell you, though, you're seeing all these folks from this community coming out. they're filling the streets, they're giving up their sunday to volunteer to find hannah graham. many of them tell us they've been inspired by their passionate and emotional police chief. >> this morning, a fresh start in the search for hannah graham, but still no sign of the missing 18-year-old. almost 1,100 volunteers scoured bushes and backyards on saturday. >> it speaks to the character of this community, i think. maybe all college towns are this way. >> i feel like we all as a community band together and go out and search. >> jonathan day looking for his classmate. the support spread to the football field, too. where the coach wore graham's

initials during saturday's game. >> everybody feels like they need to do something. we need to rally around this family. >> graham's parents worry about what may have happened to their daughter who loves skiing and the saxophone. she was last seen last weekend. one of those videos shows police now call a person of interest. they say graham may have gotten into his car early that morning. and while they searched his house, they did not arrest him. for now, people hope this hunt will turn up something, a cell phone, a piece of clothing, anything that could help. >> if it were my own daughter, i would want everybody out looking and it was something that i couldn't not come to. >> today, they're not discouraged, just determined. >> because of what's been demonstrated already, i don't think morale will diminish. i think it will be a greater sense of urgency. >> a sense of urgency. and you heard it in that piece, alex. a couple of times, people saying, if this were my kid,

this is what i would want my community to do. we're going to monitor this 3:00 p.m. news conference. just, another little fyi, some 400 tips have poured into a hot line set up to help bring hannah home. police are working through those, as well. >> okay. >> halle, thank you very much. appreciate that. in today's office politics, christopher dickey, you're going to see why chris'sal p e atalen writer is in his dna. >> that's exactly what he's doing. >> i don't think that putin for a moment has disguised his intent to reconstruct, if possible, the russian empire, russian empire. i mean, they're very careful not to say the soviet empire. they want to go back to the idea of russia in the mid 19th century. when it was expanding all over the -- all over central asia.

and coming into conflict with the british among others. but he wants to re-create that empire, if he can. and he is enough of a kgb man to think he can do it through a combination of propaganda, covert action, subversion and occasional limited uses of military force. >> has he forgotten about the international community, though? >> no. >> does it matter to him? >> i don't think he cares. >> what is america's role in this? >> america's role is the nato role. what the united states has had to do ever since the game started with crimea is try to find ways to reassure nato allies. ones who were actually part of nato, that it will not forsake them. it will defend them. that's why the president went to

astonia. i'm here, i stand behind you. we stand behind you, nato stands behind you. est and we're going to find more ways to put troops in the baltic republics without having bases because we did tell the russians we wouldn't do that. because among other things, the polish government is very, very worried. if you let ukraine go, even though it's a nonnato member, then you start to have russia once again on poland's border. and if you have poland's history, that's completely unacceptable. the american role is the nato role. that's it. at the end of the day, as putin has pointed out, russia is the second biggest nuclear power in the world. >> ruthless enough to use nuclear power to prove it. >> ruthless enough to talk about his nuclear power. he's already done it. >> another book i want to get to is the one you wrote about your

father. and we should say that james dickey wrote the book "deliverance" and didn't he write the screen play for the film? >> he did and played the sheriff in the film. >> really? >> yeah. there's a scene toward the end, a lot of him toward the end of the film. but there's this scene right toward the end of the film where john vogt is about to drive away. >> don't ever do nothing like this again. don't come back up here. >> we had a very troubled family. my father was a terrible alcoholic, my mother was a terrible alcoholic, and my mother died when she was 50. and my father died when he was 73, but he was weakened. related one way or another to his alcoholism. it was crazy. my father thought it would be good to be kind of crazy because poets are crazy. and so we had a pretty -- we had a pretty crazy life for about 20

years we barely spoke to each other. but, you know -- i got to the point where i realized it's sort of a strange thing, but i got to a point by the early '90s, i realized i was not -- almost anything i wrote that was long at all wound up being about fathers and sons. he was in terrible shape but quit drinking. and it was -- the doors of perception had opened. all of a sudden we could talk about anything. he was brilliant, my father was a genius. but you hadn't seen that for a long, long time. and so we had two, three years reconstructing everybody's life. and then he died. things worked out okay. >> for which you must be grateful. but listening to that story, it's emotional, i can see it in your eyes, got tears. >> there are whole passages from this book i could never read out loud without breaking down. >> chris calls his father a

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inside the white house was quite surprising and very disappointing. >> can you give me a perspective how far the fence is to the portico doors? and what should have been in place there to keep him from traveling that distance? >> well, i don't know the exact distance. i know that in terms of spread time, the average physically fit person could probably cover it in 6 to 8 seconds. it's not very long in terms of getting there. there are a number of safeguards in place, obviously. there are uniform division officers, canine assets and the usual electronic surveillance type unit that you would expect at the white house. >> so why didn't they release the dogs? you talk about the canine units. and in lieu of that, why not shoot an intruder? they don't have to shoot to kill, but they could certainly shoot to stop. >> yeah. i really don't know about the canine. i don't know where the dog or dogs were at the time on the

grounds. when it comes to lethal force, the use of lethal force, in the end, whether to pull the trigger or not, that's completely up to the agent or the officer on scene. in this particular case, however, when you have isis threatening to run their flag over the white house and the terror alert as high as it is right now. then you have to assume if anyone's going to sprint toward the front door of the white house and fail to stop when commanded to do so, lethal force is certainly would certainly be in order. and i'm not really quite certain why it was not used really only that young officer could answer that question. >> you know, dan, the question of mental illness may be applicable in this case, the suspect mr. gonzales, he may suffer from that to some degree. is that something that goes through the mind of a secret service officer at the time? that he may have mental illness. and if so, that still will present a threat to the president.

>> no. when an agent or officer encounters a threat, they're not really concerned about is this person disturbed or not distu disturbed. they should only be concentrating on the threat of the moment. if that person presents a threat, then that threat needs to be dealt with. once it's dealt with, then you can look into the psychological issues of the person that some other time. but in this particular case, this individual was trying to get into the white house. he did succeed, and he should not have succeeded in doing so. >> do you think in response to this, some things that should happen may be to close down that whole area, have it blocked off to tourists, close that area of pennsylvania avenue to traffic? >> well, of course, traffic is already shut down. >> well, sure. car traffic, but pedestrian traffic. >> but as far as pedestrian traffic, that would be something that probably would be looked into, i imagine it'll be on the table. but, you know, the white house,

it's the fence line runs around the entire perimeter. and, really, person can gain entry to the grounds virtually anywhere by jumping the fence. it's just a matter of are they going to be able to close the distance between themselves and the mansion before they're stopped? >> okay. author of "within arm's length." dan, thank you so much. >> thank you. the cosby show is celebrating 30 years of tv this week. ahead, a look at the man behind the legendary sitcom. heck, i saved judith here a fortune with discounts like safe driver, multi-car, paperless. you make a mighty fine missus, m'lady. i'm not saying mark's thrifty. let's just say, i saved him $519, and it certainly didn't go toward that ring. am i right? [ laughs ] [ dance music playing ] so visit progressive.com today. i call this one "the robox." carmax is the best place to start your car search.e,

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the right side now. just the right side. sitting there like this. you know, like he's dancing, see. >> well, that is bill cosby as cliff huxtable. a car-buying venture with daughter denise on "the cosby show." this weekend marks the 30th anniversary of the sitcom. debuted in september 1984.

and put a new face on the all american dad. over five decades in the business, bill cosby has become something of a cultural icon. funny, insightful, sometimes polarizing in his views. only a matter of time before someone sat down to capture his life and legacy. and the man to do it, mark whitaker, author of cosby, his life and time, former nbc news colleague, as well. really proud of you and congratulate you on the book. thanks for joining me. >> hi, how are you? >> i'm well and clearly you are, too. marked the 30th anniversary on nbc. and the past three decades, that show's been hailed as redefining race relations in this country. how about bill cosby? how does he regard the show himself? >> well, you know, i think he's very proud of it. but, you know, one of the thing about bill cosby is that show was so successful that a lot of people have either forgotten or it's overshadowed all the things he did before the cosby show. he revolutionized in the '60s

stand-up comedy and had a whole string of incredibly successful comedy albums. he was the first african-american star of prime time television in "i spy." he was a pioneer of children's television. with sesame street and the electric company and fat albert. and also by the late '70s, the most successful pitch man in america. and that was all before "the cosby show." but, obviously, the cosby show, i think, is the thing probably that history will remember him for. >> in part, mark, as i described it, he was the all-american dad. we looked at him as the all american dad. some have even said, let's take this further. it's the cosby effect that prepared the country for the first black president. >> yeah, that's right. it's interesting because at the time, there were some people who criticized the huxtables as not being a realistic depiction of african-american families. but a couple of things. first of all, i think cosby always wanted to emphasize what

people had in common rather than stressing their differences. at the same time, there was a tremendous amount of black cultural quietly in the background of that show. jazz and art and so forth. but i think the sort of subliminal effect of -- or not subliminal effect of having the hux tahuxtables the number one show on television in eight seasons. coming into more than average of 30 million to 35 million households. every single week on thursday nights. it was interesting, by 2008, when barack obama ran for president, no matter what you thought of his policies, the idea that he and his family, michelle obama and their two children would be the national family living in our national home, the white house, was never controversial. even carl rove on election night was talking about how the

huxtables had prepare america for that idea. >> over 16 hours of conversation with bill cosby. how did you figure out where to start? >> well, you know, it's interesting. it took me a year to get his cooperation. he was not inclined to help at first. i think ultimately he decided that, you know, i -- he saw i was going to be persistent and i was a serious journalist. and -- but, he -- so i had a succession of mostly phone interviews with him. although, i went on the road with him for a couple of days. that was fascinating. he was unlike anybody i had ever interviewed because he doesn't really answer questions. he tells stories. just the way he does when he performs. and also, i could never schedule an interview. he would call me unexpected, usually late at night. usually he had something that he wanted to tell me. but i learned that once you got bill cosby on the phone, it was never a short conversation. so my job was to be ready with

the questions that would elicit the stories i needed to fill the holes in the book. >> even at midnight. hey, very quickly, over the years; he's voiced pretty controversial views on race. in your conversations, how do you think his relationship stands with the african-american community? >> well, you know, as you say, he's been quite controversial. but, you know, i think there are far more african-americans than people realize who, you know, basically applaud the fact that he has been so strong in the last ten years after a career of not talking about race and about these themes of personal responsibility, education and so forth. and fundamentally, his point is, people say he's blaming the victim, not acknowledging institutional racism. he's always been aware of those factors but that his view is, if you only emphasize blaming the system, you can wait a long time

for things to change. but in the meantime, you can also take control of the things that are in your power to change in your own life. and really, what he's preaching to young black folks in the inner city is, are really the things that helped turn his life around because he started just like them, a poor kid living in a housing project in north philadelphia. >> showing by example what can be done. mark whitaker, author of "cosby: his life and times." thanks so much for joining me. >> nice to see you. >> you, too, mark. will it work? can they train the syrian opposition to fight isis? there's new iams naturals, with no corn or chicken by-product meal, grain-free, and costs up to 25% less. iams naturals. just one of many iams formulas to keep love strong. ♪ i thought it'd be bigger. ♪

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like from the inside. hello, everyone, welcome to "weekends with alex witt," 10:00 a.m. out west. climate change is taking center stage around the globe today. in fact, over 2,000 rallies in the 162 countries are taking part in what's being called the people's climate march. the largest one right here in new york city was over 100,000 people taken to the streets of midtown manhattan. let's head there now. ned standing by for us. we spoke at the last hour, let's talk about the deafening sound of the rally that you heard. what's that? >> right. well, what they did was had a two-minute moment of silence and then there's going to be a loud explosion of noise to sound the alarm for climate change. everyone just making as much noise as they possibly can are really sort of burst of passion

and sort of alarm, i guess. >> ned, has that happened yesterday? or not? >> well, there was the moment of silence. and a very loud noise. so i'm not exactly sure whether that's the one that's supposed to happen. >> i know it's supposed to happen at 1:00, but often times things can run late. we'll see if that happens. can i ask you what response is that you're getting from people in terms of what they want to see done. are the palpable changes and differences that they think can be put into effect any time soon? >> well, i mean, i think the slogan of the march is to change everything. so i think the idea is that there's a slate of things that need to happen on every level, both big and small, in terms of things that can happen soon. a lot of people talking about urban gardening, a lot of people talking about state level proposals like carbon taxes.

but then there are the more ambitious goals. i mean, for example, there needs to be a dramatic and very substantial immediate cut to carbon pollution within the next couple of decades in order to prevent us from going over 2 degrees celsius. so it's a combination of the big and the small. and i think one of the things this march sort of represents is the idea of a lot of people doing one small thing simultaneously to create one massive historically unprecedented thing. >> yeah. but in terms, quickly of policies, you're not -- or at least these marches you've spoken with, they are not looking towards this week's climate change summit at the u.n. as being a pivotal point, they're looking ahead to paris, right? >> yes. that's correct. the climate change summit that's happening on tuesday is not one that's going to yield any sort of binding treaty. what the summit is about is gathering world leaders together to discuss the issue of climate change and really to demonstrate to them the political will

exists for some sort of substantive change. ban ki moon is marching in a march today. and i think he sees this both this march and the summit as part of the same objective, which is just to provide world leaders with a sense of the urgency and with a sense of the fact that the politics are moving in the direction of real change. >> well, i've got to tell you. i'd be out there with you marching. thank you very much for bringing us a live report. i appreciate it. here's the other big story developing at this hour. the secret service boosting security outside the white house after a man with the knife scaled the fence and ran through the door before agents caught him. kristen with another good day to you. they have enhanced patrols and surveillance all along pennsylvania avenue. also launched a full-scale investigation to get to the bottom of exactly what happened, how someone could not have only jumped over the fence but walked into the executive mansion,

which is what happened, of course, on friday. we're learning more about the suspect, 42-year-old omar gonzalez was at a bail hearing on saturday. he faces a number of charges, including unlawful entry with a dangerous weapon. a law enforcement official says he had a 4-inch pocket knife in his pocket when he jumped over the fence on friday. we're also learning that he was an iraq war veteran. he served from 2006 to 2008. he is currently being held pending a court appearance on monday, alex. meanwhile, there is outrage on capitol hill that this could've happened. take a listen to what peter king had to say earlier today. >> the fact they say he wasn't brought down because they didn't think he had a weapon. he could've had a body bomb, a vest on. as with know, he did have a knife. this demands a full investigation and an investigation as to what happened and why it happened and what's being done to make sure it never happens again. >> alex, i spoke with a former secret service agent who said one of the key questions here is

why weren't the dogs dispatched when this fence jumper was able to jump over the fence. usually, that's what we see happen. we see the dogs let loose and that sort of stops any intruder in their tracks. that didn't happen on friday. so that's something the secret service is going to have to answer for. i asked one law enforcement official why no one fired shots. i was told the man didn't appear to be armed. he wasn't wearing heavy, baggy clothes. he didn't have a bag or backpack. so agents didn't believe that he had a weapon on him. so those are some of the critical questions that are going to be looked into it. one white house official said president obama has full confidence in the secret service and in this investigation. alex? >> all right, kristen welker at the white house. thank you, kristen. the wife of a british aid worker has a message for the isis militants holding her husband captive. part of a volunteer team delivering food and water when he was taken in december of last year. in a statement released by the british government, henning's

wife barbara says, quote, alan is a peaceful, selfless man who left his family and job as a taxi driver in the uk to drive in a convoy at the way to syria with his colleagues and friends to help those most in need. to allow the world to see a man like alan dying. after congress authorized arming moderate syrian rebels to combat isis. >> i think destroying -- we've been at war with al qaeda for 13 years. we haven't destroyed it yet. we've changed it, we've certainly degraded it in afghan/pakistani area. all you have to do is look around the world and particularly africa and the middle east to see it's still around. i think destroying probably is ambitious, at least in the foreseeable future. >> there's also new reaction from tony blair to the isis threat. >> to take on isis and to build

the broadest possible coalition. so he and secretary kerry have put together, i think right about 50 countries now as part of this coalition. and we've got absolutely no choice but to do this. >> and the new reports that hundreds of kurdish fighters are crossing into syria to defend a kurdish area under attack by isis militants. now to a growing man hunt for one of the fbi's ten most wanted. 400 officers armed with rifles continue to comb through the remote, wooded area of northeastern pennsylvania. they're on the hunt for eric frein suspected in the fatal ambush of a pennsylvania state trooper. lifted the lockdown order for the area, but urging residents to stay inside their homes. developing now in about two hours, police are expected to hold a news conference with an update on the search for the missing university of virginia student, 18-year-old hannah graham who vanished over a week ago and there's still no sign of her. police have questioned this man in this surveillance video. you're going to see who they

believe was with her moments before she disappeared. but after searching the 32-year-old's car in -- rather his, 32-year-old, they did not find what they were looking for. >> -- custody? not in custody. was there probable cause to arrest him? no. there was no probable cause to arrest him. was there legally sufficient legal basis to detain him? not in the opinion of the ranking supervisor on the scene. >> meantime, hundreds are expected to turn out today in a city wide search for the sophomore. they're hoping this hunt will turn up something, anything that could help. taylor shapiro. you've been covering this story extensively there for the post. what about the disappearance do you find most striking? >> this case matches other cases that have happened in the past in this area. in 2009 a virginia tech student also disappeared and she was not found until 101 days later.

>> and she was found how. i'm not familiar with that case. >> morgan harrington was found dead in a field i believe about 10 miles outside of town. now, who knows what will happen in this case. everybody is still hopeful they will find hannah graham alive. >> of course. what do you make of this person of interest? and why they haven't made an arrest? >> i spoke to some of his neighbors who describe him as a nice man. he works at the uva hospital as a nursing assistant. you know, i also spoke with a friend of his from high school who said he was a big athletic man who was on the football team so, you know, despite his size and intimidating physique was also considered a gentle giant. >> an interesting part of this story is the police chief timothy longo. here's his passionate plea for witnesses to come forward. here's that. >> i can't imagine anyone in this community not wanting hannah graham to come home. >> pray for this family and that girl. because they need that more than

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every detail matters. a door locked, quick reaction when somebody hits the fence and over the gate. and i just think they're going to have to reinstate some of these ongoing checks about what activities they participate in. when i talk about their self-audit on their security. >> and that is new reaction today from house intelligence chair mike rogers after a man with a knife jumped the white house fence.

made it all the way inside the doors before authorities caught him on friday. and as a result, the secret service ordered enhanced officer patrols and surveillance along the north fence. political columnist and political reporter for u.s. news and world report. a welcome to you both. beyond the surprise, what's the talk there in d.c. what's the reaction you're hearing? >> well, it's not that much of a surprise. it's not that hard to jump over the fence at the white house. earlier this month, a guy wearing a hat and carrying one of the pokemon dolls was able to get over. and before that, a toddler went through the gate. you don't want to make the white house look like a fortress with guys with machine guns patrolling and barbed wire and everything. it's obviously completely unacceptable that somebody could do this, even when the president is away at camp david. so i don't think anybody's regarding this as yet another

secret service scandal, obviously, they've had their share of those. but it's -- it's something that will require a minor -- >> but perhaps the shocking part, it mean, not so much the jumps, making a good point. people have done that often. but getting all the way inside the north portico doors? >> i think it speaks to a larger national security concern that americans are feeling right now ahead of the midterm election. and, you know, i wonder if people might feel differently had this sort of thing occurred and officers managed to apprehend the man quickly. but, you know, the other piece of news he was wielding a knife, you know, law enforcement officers said initially looked like he was unarmed. he did have a weapon on him. i think this is a big piece of concern here in washington. and members of congress are going to address this issue when they return from the midterm election recess. >> okay. hey, let's talk about the new nbc news "wall street journal" poll out today ahead of the midterms. the democrats lead the generic

ballot with 46% of voters preferring a democratic controlled versus 42% wanting a republican controlled one. the same time, the gop is winning the intensity battle. they're highly interested in the upcoming elections. how do you interpret that given this is a midterm election. talk about the intensity factor. >> right. i think this perfectly captures the moment we're in right now. and that's why the elections not necessarily looking good for democrats because it is the most passionate voters who go out and vote in these midterm elections. that's a huge swing, if everybody were to show up and vote, democrats have a generic lead of four points. if you look at the people most likely to vote, the ones who feel the most intensely. so that's a huge swing, and that's why the democrats are in danger of losing the senate. and of losing a few more seats in the house. >> interesting, lauren, your article ties right into this

poll. it's titled republicans believe they can extend house majority in 2014. why are they so sure? >> i think, you know, this issue of turnout has been a major issue since we've been talking about the 2014 election. what constituencies that support democrats, including latinos, black voters and also women tend to stay home during the elections. whereas constituencies like seniors and white men tend to come out in droves and vote in midterm elections. and the house elections, a lot of these districts are highly gerrymandered. these are places where republicans are highly entrenched. and there's only about three dozen seats up for grabs anyway. and really this is an issue more of how many seats can republicans maintain and capture, then whether or not the democrats could actually take back the house. >> i'm curious, though, one thing to tell them their confident about their midterms, but do you get that sense of confidence? >> well, i -- i don't think

there's they would say with confidence, yes, we're going to take the senate. there's obviously a great deal virtually certain that they're going to keep the house major y majority, if not expand. there's a lot of this poll really reflects that there's a lot of animosity antipathy toward the congress in general and the republicans in particular. and it shows that were this a general election when everybody gets out there, even though people are so unhappy with the way this administration has performed and the congress has performed, they're still not willing overall, to turn the keys over to the republicans. >> what's interesting about this poll also, lauren, it shows 75% of republicans believe that upcoming election is much more important than previous elections. you got 57% of democrats giving this election the same level of importance. why do you think that is? >> i think that national security is playing a big role in this midterm election. and, you know, as the president

right before congress left town, you know, he goes out and he makes his pitch to the american people as to why the united states needs to reengage in iraq and syria. i think that, you know, people are thinking about national security. and on that issue, republicans tend to be more concerned than democrats about the way the country is going. i think when we look at the election and what's going to matter. i think that national security is an important election issue. >> do you think lawmakers, though, just got back from summer recess, not back until after the midterm elections in november. do you think they did due diligence on dealing with the isis threat and voting to arm and train syrian rebels? as thoroughly as they might have? >> well, of course not. it was a complete punt. and arguably, you don't want to make decisions of war and peace on a short time frame before heading out on vacation. now, a better response would have been, well, postpone your vacation, people, and have a serious debate. they'll let the lame duck

congress make the larger decision about the war. they just did the bare minimum of saying we'll authorize this training of the rebels in syria, which seem to be sort of the lowest common denominator. >> thanks, guys. >> thank you. >> thank you. a former army sergeant who spent months training iraqi forces weighs in on the decision to train those syrian rebels. that is ahead. but if you have arthritis, this can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain, so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke,

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backed by hezbollah, russia, et cetera. so we think with an infusion of support these fighters who have held their own against this wide array of actors fighting on all fronts will be in a much stronger position. >> joining me now, matt, welcome to you. i'm curious about an assessment of your experience training iraqis and other armies and the effectiveness that has on foreign policy. >> i think that the u.s. military can go in and effectively train anyone we want to to be effective soldiers. the component, that's the difficult part is who do these folks fight? and what's the larger component to the instrument that is the military that we're training. i think that we were effective in training iraqi forces at a smaller level, but if there's a leadership failure within that

capability, then those soldiers aren't going to be effective. and a lot of the time, the u.s. military, special forces in particular whose job it is to go out and train these foreign militaries are successful in training the personnel. the mid-level and high-level management. >> another big concern i'm hearing from people who oppose arming the rebels is that the weapons could fall into the hands of isis. we certainly saw that happen in iraq. isis is now driving around in your old humvees and tanks right now. is there any way to ensure that does not happen again? >> the only way to ensure it doesn't happen, i think, is to train the soldiers the best that we can. there's certainly no guarantees. i think that we have to be aware of who we're training. the flip side of that is if we train individuals to go fight isis, will they remain on the friendly side of the united states? or will we be facing down the barrel the same weapon we supplied the foreign fighters with. something we need to take into

consideration. essentially right now, we're arming both sides of the same conflict. we're assisting shia militias in iraq who are fighting isis rebels who are also -- were also fighting for the assad regime. and we're arming syrian, the free syrian army who was fighting against the assad regime. i think at some point we'll be facing a -- it's an incredibly complicated situation. >> yeah, you're making a point that's been made several times and also pointing out very strange bedfellows in the whole situation. here's something the white house keeps saying, which is the u.s. will not be fighting on the ground. do you think it's possible to effectively train and advise rebels without being out on the front lines alongside them? >> i think it's difficult, there are a few examples in the past, some successful, some not in somalia, for example, mogadishu.

but those ugandan soldiers had western advisers with them acting as the platoon leaders, if you will, on the ground. that wasn't well publicized because they were military contractors and not u.s. soldiers. at the same time, there are examples in vietnam. u.s. special forces operating with the forces they trained. i think it's difficult to be able to focus those forces to make sure they're successful on the battlefield if they have weak leadership if they're not directly mentored or directed by u.s. or western forces. so i think that's something they have to take into consideration, as well. we can train them on the back end if the leadership is weak, they're not going to be that effective. >> give me your assessment on the scale of 1 to 10, the level of success you anticipate with our progress here and with our procedures. and if -- do you think that ten is possible being complete eradication destruction of isis? >> i think -- i can give you an assessment of our capability of the u.s. military and that is, you know, ten plus, if we're

given a clear mission. i can't say how successful we will be in defeating isis if we have unclear goals and unclear direction. we will defeat whoever is set in front of us. we just need to be given the authority and power and correct direction from the politicians if that's possible, then, yes, the u.s. military will be successful. but there's certainly no guarantees beyond what the military's capable of. that's where we've seen difficulties in the last 12 years and will continue to see difficulties beyond. >> okay. good to talk with you. come see us again, thanks so much. >> thank you. my conversation with the fbi's special agent in charge of cyber crimes and what russia and china are looking for when they try to hack into american and computer servers. that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl...

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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt" at 35 past the hour. syrian refugees continue to pour into turkey fleeing isis' brutal attacks. about 100,000 seeking shelter in less than a week. turkey is hosting over 1 million

refugees that fled isis. five more doctors infected with the ebola virus. mainly from a lack of proper supplies. the massive northern california wildfires continue to rage on today, nearly 81,000 acres have burned. and the first ever 3d printer for astronauts made its way into space this morning. the space x rocket is carrying more than 5,000 pounds of cargo to the international space station. nasa hopes some day those astronauts will be able to use the 3d printer to make spare parts in space. and it's being called the angelina effect, named after angelina jolie's decision to make her mastectomy public. she acted after testing positive for the gene that increases the risk of breast cancer. in a new report out from nbc news, u.s. officials say isis is

receiving a steady stream of money from wealthy donors in qatar. this comes as u.s. investigators are deeply analyzing isis' nearly hour long propaganda film. >> the flames of war were burning furiously. as the heavy shelling let out thunderous roars that cast fear into the hearts of the enemy. >> joining me now is evan coleman, the cio of flash point partners. and welcome to you, evan. reiterate a couple of the key points, your take aways from this propaganda video. >> one of the more interesting things here, isis has been accused of a lot of different parties of backing off. they've been focusi all their fire on jihadi groups. they make an emphatic reply to that saying, no, we're killing syrian soldiers right here. we only backed off the front lines because we were under

pressure from the other different jihadi groups that were fighting us. we had to consolidate our forces and that's why we stopped fighting the assad regime. it was a defensive video, tried promoting the values that isis has been putting forward. particularly the idea that they are going to create this islamic state. but look, everyone who watches this video, one of the most striking things, it's being narrated by someone who seems to have a north american accent. >> and what is the message isis is trying to send? >> well, look and there's another easter egg in here. it's a canadan jihadist who we know his real name is. the idea is to show, look, this is a real battle, we're a real force, don't take us lightly, and it doesn't matter whether or not you speak arabic, chinese, you're all welcome here. there's scenes showing all it will fighters gathering from all different ethnicities and linguistic groups. and it doesn't matter if you're american or canadian, you're just as welcome here as a syrian

or iraqi. >> do you think officials know who this person is? >> well, we don't know per se whether they know who is there. there are a lot of americans that have gone there. over 100 americans that have gone. the u.s. government is trying to track a number of these individuals and given the fact that it's about 100, we should have some idea of who might -- it might be. but let's keep in mind, it's not necessarily american. it could also be canadian. there's a canadian in this video, he's dead now. but nonetheless, he was a convert to islam. he's featured in these other videos talking about how he used to enjoy playing hockey and finishing and then one day he decided his life needed to be about violent jihad. >> you know, one thing we've talked about before was the concern about members of the eu or americans having the passports to allow them to go there, get some training, do some nefarious activities and bring it back to their homelands. >> right. >> you talk about these 100 or so americans that have gone over. have any come back? >> well, the sad part is that we do know that some have come

back. one individual who blew himself up in syria just last may returned to the united states, at least once after he'd already joined jihadist groups in syria. what he did during that time, why he wasn't arrested, we don't really know. the same person, before he blew himself up in syria in may, he recorded a video tearing up his u.s. passport saying he was going to come kill americans, he was going to come after president obama. that's the problem here. i think a lot of people suggest, well, we don't know what these people are going to do, what their real intentions are. maybe they're there to fight in syria. that's not the case. if you look at the video testimonials from western foreign fighters that have gone there and leaked out, these folks are talking about murder. they're talking about attacking targets within the u.s. borders, within canadian borders. >> yeah. >> and the numbers are striking. belgium alone. just this week has acknowledged up to 600 have gone to fight in

syria. belgian is a tiny country. >> yes. some have come back. are american officials following the others who have come back? do they know who they are? >> it's a top priority right now for u.s. and european law enforcement to track anyone coming back from syria. the norwegians went on extreme high alert because they thought a group of individuals carrying norwegian passports were coming back from syria to norway. they didn't know what these guys were going to do. and the idea was regardless, we need to stop them. the fear that u.s. law enforcement has is that we haven't identified every single last person that's gone. somebody's going to slip through the net, somebody's going to get back here without triggering alarm. and at that point, you know, there was an estimate from the belgians that 1 out of 10 individual they see coming back from syria wants to carry out some kind of violent act in the west. now 1 out of 10 if you consider that over 100 americans have gone, that's a disturbing figure. >> sure. >> yeah. >> one too many, for sure.

>> yes. >> all right. thank you so much as always. >> thank you. well, home depot has revealed the data breach of the north american stores could have a major impact. 56 million credit cards are at risk. this is just the latest in a string of recent hacking cases that included target, jpmorgan and g-mail. this past week, i spoke with the special agent in charge of the fbi cyber crimes in new york. i began by asking him if the hacking problem really is as big as the headlines. >> in our opinion, the problem is bad and getting worse. there are a number of trends aren't favoring in our direction. first, the technology. our networks are getting more complex, which makes them harder to defend. the adversary has access to very effective hacking tools that are very easier to use. when you add that together. what you find is more opportunity for the hackers and more difficulty for those trying to defend the networks. so the first trend in technology isn't favorable. the second is we're seeing the

profits from cyber crime reinvested back into the criminal organization. so they're attracting talent, they're doing research and development, and they're building infrastructure that helps them hide and support their activities. so if you add those two trends together, we think it's not a favorable set of developments for those trying to defend these networks. >> how about corporations are? are they doing enough to combat the problem? >> corporations have a great challenge. many of them. many of the most vulnerable corporations have networks that spend international boundaries, thousands of users. and trying to keep up with every potential vulnerable point in a network like that is very, very difficult. >> give me a sense of what a criminal hacking operation looks like. >> the most sophisticated organizations are organized with a hierarchy similar to a modern company. meaning, they have a leadership that decides the strategic direction, decides where to make -- >> criminal direction.

>> strategic criminal direction for the group. decides where to make investments in technology and talent. they have research and development departments. they have cash and money laundering departments. they have all of the functions that make a modern, money making organization work. >> and how often is there a state backing these hackers? >> this is one of the difficult trends we're dealing with. criminal hackers are often in cooperation, moonlighting or directly employed by some state intelligent services, some governments. so it's difficult to determine whether an individual we potentially can identify as a hacker is working for himself on the side, working for the criminal organization that he or she is a part of, or is a recruit for an intelligent service in the country where they're operating. the convergence of criminal groups and nation state actors, i think, is going to make it more difficult for us to attribute truly who is behind

some of these attacks. so in many cases, we can find the fingerprints of the criminal group, but they are sometimes mixed in with the fingerprints of some of the state actors. and trying to parse out who is actually behind the activity, given the present technology is becoming more and more difficult. and i think that's an advantage that some countries, some criminal groups with taking -- taking, exploiting. >> when i think about you and your career, about 20 years working here in new york with the fbi started back in 1995 and working with -- when you think of the trajectory of where you've come from, what you've focused on and how it's changed because of the internet, can you put that into context? >> it makes perfect sense that criminal groups are looking for the most profit. and cyber crime offers them both. attracted to the highest payoff and the least amount of downside. and that is cyber crime.

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