for years it's been money that can that today has had a more lax asylum policy. many muslims have taken safe haven there. so it appears that when they came to the united states for that training mission, they had already conducted a plan to somehow escape from the unit that they were in and make their way into canada. >> is this something that happe happens often? fraps, t >> for years there have been many military, iraqis,kista pakistanis, you name it, you'll find one, maybe two or three. at one time there were a handful of iraqis walked away from their training. and they were sent back. so that part is not unusual. what is unusual is they clearly had a plan here and i have to emphasize that in no way did

they have access to any weapons. the training was simulation table top exercises, they were not armed when they were training or got here or they were not armed when they left that mall. and they had been vetted actually before they ever got here by the state department, u.s. embassy, and the u.s. military. so they were never considered a serious threat, but they were certainly apparently a flight arriving. >> all right. j jim miklaszewski, thanks very much. the secret service is considering revafmping its procedures after a fence jump erma it insier made it inside the white house. this man, omar gonzalez, made his way inside carrying a a knife with a 3 1/2 inch serrated blade. while fence jumpers are nothing new and the first family were in no danger, security experts say the incident may be another

example of management issues that have dogged the secret service in the past few years. earlier at the white house, this is how josh earnest characterized president obama's reaction to the break-in. >> he did indicate as ultimate expect his family lives in the white house. so he is obviously concerned by the stipt that oincident occurr. at the same time, the president continues to have pleat confidence in the professionals at the's s secret service. >> this isn't the first time we've seen issues with the secret service. we've seen a car hit the gate of the white house. what is going on? >> reporter: that's the question the they're looking into. we've heard the review that is being carried out is being done with a sense of urgency. but i was here on friday. i've seen the fence jumpers in my time. it's unprecedented that somebody would run across the lawn, get up the steps and through the front door of the north portico.

let's start with what they have done already. the front door is now locked to the white house and there will be a whole new series of procedures. but they're reviewing for example why the k-9s weren't let loose, why the sniper didn't take a shot, would it have been roept. were there any -- they say there were no indications he was armed. it turned out he had a knife. they are obviously trying to look could they be carrying something on their body that could be an goexplosive. we've learned the president was we'ved multiple times on friday after the incident happened. he and his family had lifted off in marine one for camp david just about ten minutes before this happened. also updated multiple times over the weekend about the status of the ocean. foot patrols and surveillance has been beefed up. but they are looking at what wider things can be done. should tourist ares be kept

further away from the white house. have to go through some sort of more stepped up security screening. it's a tough balance and the president is not going to weigh in on this. he will leave that to the security people. but this is supposed to be the people's house. this is the symbol of a democracy. it is the home of the leader of the world's greatest address and in the past, they have rejected some very visible means of keeping this house and the family safer. it will be interesting to see whether they will move even further particularly at this time where there is concerned about stepped up terror and the theft organizations including isis. >> chris jansing, thanks very much. we're joined by a former special agent for the secret service. and also former atf special agent. this is a family who has young

children, who are living in the white house. the president's mother-in-law and older woman living in the white house. and this is also the president that happens to have the highest number of threats against him. it doesn't seem conceivable to me that the secret service would be -- i guess you couldn't call it lax, but this does seem to be a very serious breach of protocol. >> they will look at did might be anybody drop the ball. where was k-9s. that's the one issue. i think it's more likely that they will look at the fact that four minutes prior, we had a hilo on the south grounds. and as a result, you may relocate certain assets. so it's very likely that they will see some of these assets

splay been maneuvered to a different place to protect the actual president as he's departing. almost like a perfect storm. >> but you does this become a budget issue, jim? don't we have enough budget and enough assets to have sufficient security both to protect the person of the president and to protect the white house at the same time? >> we do. and i love the secret service. atf and the secret service had 150 year relationship. they're a great agency and i think they will fix this. that's number one. about but we start to see the lethargic wheels of government. if we were in charge, i'd have a backhoe out there this morning digging a row across that grass, putting in a 6-foot wide thorn bush or some low grade obstacle where this couldn't happen again

immediately. now, they deployed more officers and dogs, but they have to make a sea change. this fence jumpers and even allowing people to be able to jump that whimpy fence? change the fence. start to make some real definite changes. get this fixed. >> and just in dealing with the secret service protecting president obama, they are extremely professional. we're talking about people who take what they do very seriously. but i want to play you what congressman peter king had to say about white house security. take a listen. >> the fact that he wasn't brought down because they didn't think he had a weapon? he could have had a body bomb, he could have had a vest on. he did have a knife. there could be a lot of dom pof assassination plots. this is the most basic type of procedure and how everyone especially in the days of isis

and we're concerned about terrorist attacks, someone could actually get into the white house being stopped is in-excuse sif. in >> so we're in a conversation about the use of deadly force and we've seen local police officers use deadly force against people who are arguably not a threat at all. in a situation like this, you have nonlethal force used. does peter king have a point that you now maybe have a case of underpolicing in this case? >> no. you're accountable for every bullet that leaves your magazine. so if you're going to shoot somebody, you better though with certainty that that person is a threat. they did the right thing not discharging their weapon. they understand stood as soon as he hit that north portico, there are assets that can take them by surprise. so using deadly force was not the right thing to do. now, stopping him prior to, that would have been the correct thing to do. i want to touch on one thing mr. cavanaugh said regarding budget. budget is absolutely 100% an

issue. i know from my own personal experience, it does come down to money. what can you afford. so i'm telling you that is a major, major concern. budget is always a problem. >> which throws is back to congress, peter king. and one last question, jim. does this mean there might be a lesson that the secret service as much krit sechl as they acmc taking that they could teach something to the local you law enforcement? >> yes, i think it is a good lesson. all the agents knew the president was not in residence. so that goes into the decision not the to shoot. and also they have dealt with fence jumpers over the years, so they have had a couple hundred in the last ten or 20 years or so, so that should be sort of stopped. you shouldn't really have to

deal with that anymore. here is one guy, no plan, no plot, no ability, and he just is able to jump over the fence because he thinks the atmosphere is crashing todown. so that is weak. i think they will change that. but we're in a whole different era with these terrorists around the world. the white house is a magnet for all of this stuff. you've got to change it fast. give them the money and let's make the definitive changes and not have committees and focus groups and take months to do it. just get it fixed. >> sounds like it would be nice it if we had a congress that was at work. thank you you very much. the world gathers in new york city to discuss global issues. we'll tell you about the other terrorist groups that are worse that isis. and turning tide after a very poorly received news conference and devastating espn report about what ravens executives knew about the ray race

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secretary of state john scary is coalition building today in the fight against isis. about 140 heads of state descend on new york city for the united nations general assembly. he wants to convince key allies in the west and middle east that the dangers of isis could quickly come home to roost if they don't join us in taking action. earlier today, secretary kerry appeared on morning joe and reireit rad the threat he says they pose to the country. >> we have over 100 fighter there is from america. they have passports. they can come back here.

that's why foreign fighters is such a focus and president obama will chair a u.n. security council meeting this week to deal with foreign fighters. but we learned with al qaeda you cannot leave this extremist consultism ungoverned spaces to plot whatever they want. >> still not everyone is in complete agreement that isis/isil poses an immediate threat. the new york sometimes quotes officials who say the focus has, quote, can distortdistorted the picture of terrorism. joining me now is one of the authors. how big of a threat really is isis/isil to the united states? >> well, it is it remain to be seen, but i think the question is what is an immediate threat and what is maybe a long term threat. the people we've spoken to said they don't know of any evidence

that isis is plotting right the now attacks at the united states on the united states compared to other groups for instance al qaeda offshoots. isis right now at least is primarily interested in consolidating its territory in iraq, syria, possibly even expanding its territory. and they really are interested in expanding this caliphate that they have described. as opposed to more traditional terror groups like code which were singular focused on attacking the west. so it's not that some day they wouldn't become a threat, but in terms of an immediate threat, they don't see the intelligence on back that up. >> there is a lot of big talk, but is there any evidence that they have the capability to do what al qaeda has done? any indication that this group has anybody here? >> not that i've heard or i've

seen. there have been as the secretary said a number of people with american positiassports and eur passports who have gone to fight in syria. but in terms of them returning being i vice president heard of evidence of that. and earlier we wrote about one person who went to fight for this group al nusra who had returned home in advance of the attack but he didn't attack in the united states. he blew himself up in syria. so it bears investigation and just as we understood things on 9/11, things change over time. so i think it's better to try to understand what the ultimate agendas of these groups are. >> it does seem like some of the things they'redoing is either trying to draw our fighters ands warn against us taking action. i'll read what you wrote. some caution that military strikes inside the islamic state

could antagonize that group into planning attacks on western targets and even benefit other militant organizations if more modern factions aren't ready. explain that. >> the question is what are they immediately interested in doing and what might they start doing over time provoked by american and western air campaign in syria and iraq. we've seen certainly the rhetoric escalate with isis specifically those videos, the beheading videos of the journalists when they were talking about pay back for strikes. so the rhetoric has started to change a bit with isis where they're saying we'll come to get you. they weren't saying that in the beginning. and so i think we'll just see whether this is just rhetoric or something that they really then start focusing intently on which is in-sering people into western countries to try to carry out attacks.

group you y profiled. >> yes, this group had been brought up in an associated press story. and it said they were specifically again unlike we think isis, specifically focused on attack against the west. and it's made up of al qaeda operatives, people drawing across the middle east. and so we wrote about it on sunday and who the american officials think is the leader of the group who the united states has been worried about and concerned about for some time. really more than a decade. mentioned by president bush in 2005 and ultimately ended up in syria. >> and i believe what people get concerned about when we say who we think we know and we're sending arm there is. it's all murky, but thanks for

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welcome back. pennsylvania governor tom corbett is optimistic that state police will find the man susp t suspected of shooting two state trooper, killing one of them. police say eric frein planned the attack -- >> not making any predictions we'll be able to apprehend the individual. >> students furthest from the search area have returned to school, but nearly 10 tour,000 students still have to stay home. 31-year-old frein is described as survivalist, sharpshooter. the fbi has placed him on its most wanted fun difference list. meanwhile a day after the

largest cli tmate march ever, ty are taking aim at corporate america. they are holding a sit-into protest the role corporate and economic interests play in the climate crisis. actors marched along side ban ki-moon, al gore and bill de blasio to draw attention to the environmental fight. and they weren't alone. organizers say hundreds of thousands joined in the march around the world, part of a global call to action as more than 120 policymakers fagather new york for the summit. what do they hope to accomplish? bianca jagger and chuck lavelle joining me. what is it that activists want

to see done by the international community to climate? >> what we want for see done is to overt a catastrophic climate change. it's a disaster in the making and it was really -- i was marching yesterday with a group of indigenous people from many parts of the world. and it was inspiring to be there sending a message to politicians who are not doing what is necessary to overt the ca catastrop catastrophe. and is that one of the reasons why i have accepted to become ambassador to challenge for restoration. because if we are not able to get these politicians to sit at the table and to sign globally binding treaty, at least we need to have alternatives to what we can do to reduce co2 and as well

to improve the lives of people. pd that's what the restoration initiative is trying to do. this is not simply about planting trees. this is aboutism proving the lives of people. making sure that they will tell us how they want this to happen. it will be able to make improvements in the financial affairs of countries and of people. it will be able to make a difference even if governments are going to let us down, we will do what is necessary to prevent us from a catastrophe. co2 emissions and climate change is a threat to us. it's a threat to our children, our grandchildren and to future generations. >> and we saw the issue of defore deforestation directly affect haiti after the devastating earthquake. talk about the extent to which

issues like deforestation affects people. >> bianca has articulated this very well. and it goes on into humanity. and that's important for everybody to know. but isn't it wonderful to seeat see the grass roots movement and it's going global. it shows that this is an issue that people deeply care about. there are places in the world that he we need to put a spotlight on in terms of reinformatir reforestati reforestation. they give us materials to make books and magazines and newspapers. they clean our water, they provide shelter and jobs all around the world. so this is why it's so

important. >> you cdid see these big protests over the weekend. how do you convince the average person that this is important in their lives? >> well, i think that the fact that you will hundreds of thousands of people marching that people are beginning to understand that the disasters that we've seen not just in the developing country, but here, that we have a climate that has completely changed. i think people are not fooled. they understand that there is something wrong, that something is not quite as it used to be. that we are responsible for climate change. and that governments need to do what is necessary to overt this catastrophe. and so i don't believe that people don't know anymore what is happening. i think that people more and

more are aware you have the climate deniers that are pretending that nothing is wrong. and i think it is great that we with work with organizations and all make a difference. we can all overt catastrophic climate change and we -- you know, we are empowered. we are the people that elect politicians and we are the people that should get rid of them if they don't do what it necessary. >> sometimes it takes the wealthy to get involved. rockefellers saying they will do their best against fossil fuel entities. and you're doing a few things in your busy life. you have a website that is incredibly high trafficked. more trafficked than i'm told the epa website. tell us about what you're doing.

>> it's the mother nature network. we launched in 2009 and have passed the epa in numbers of visits per month. well over 8 million per month. so people are studying and staying on. and we want to be the resource to articulate what we're here to discuss. especially about the environment. just to talk a little bit about the resource and some statistics. it took millions of years for us to get to 1 billion in population. take happened around 1800. it took about 130 years to double that to 2 billion and then only another 45 years to double that to 4 billion which is around 1975. now we're at 7.3 billion people on this planet. we have 3 million miles of paved road here in america. a million 1/2 of unpaved. 260 million vehicles riding

those roads. 87,000 planes flying our sky. that is just in the u.s.. that is a tremendous amount of pressure on all of our natural resources. so isn't now the time for us to address that and we're going to tip to grow, but we need to be careful about how we're going to grow. >> and one thing i want to say about the initiative, is that the initiative is to have 150 million acres of land by 2020. we already have 20 and we will be announcing something that will be over that number tomorrow. it will be very important. it will be a change making and it will improve the life of the people in all of the countries who have pledged that they will be part of the restoration initiative. >> that's wonderful. thank you so much for coming

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reckless driving. he's the last known person to be seen with the sophomore who went missing september 13. meanwhile it's been three days since roger goodell stood on a podium ostensibly to ease the call for his resignation. that was also the day espn came out with a damning new report. this afternoon, the ravens will hold a news conference to discuss the ray rice case. the team says the article contains numerous errors and perhaps misunderstandings. for goodell's part, he said he got it wrong but has no plans to resign. >> i have this before back on august 28 and i say it again now. i got it wrong in the handling

of the ray rice matter. and i'm sorry for that. >> the reaction to goodell's apology has been shall we say not good. this morning post called him uninspiring, saying his robotic delive delivery should be the final straw. perhaps even more significant, there are reports of cracks forming from within, specifically among the 15 owner ares who voted for gl ed fod fo back in 2006. so are the ravens and roger goodell in a deeper hole? >> first and foremost, roger goode goodell'ses from conference was a train rec. it reminded me of seeing george w. bush attempt to explain the difference between sunni and shy a oig in iraq. yet the report was every worse. it's not only a look at the way

in which the baltimore ravens knew what ray rice had done in that elevator, chose to objects if objects if i indicate it and chose to get him the smallest possible punishment, it's also a look at the way roger goodell does business. it's on augusta national golf course. wonder what they discussed over the summer. and then roger goodell just says two games and that's the problem with roger goodell. it's arbitrary, it's capricious and all on him. there is nothing collectively bargained that says what happens when you commit an act like domestic violence. and like i said, he is in over his head. >> but is it all on him? i think one of the things that was the most shocking to me, so far the owner has gotten off the hook. if you have the team other than

knowing exactly what happened in that elevate it toelevator, pusr leniency for a player, shouldn't he be inasmuch hot water? >> it does raise the question why we aren't having the discussion of biscotti being pushed out of ownership. people should read the article. it's terrific reporting. if what we read in that article is true, then steve biscotti -- is this the discussion we need about steve biscotti. but roger goodell is the person who is in charge of the most profitable mop profit in the united states. he said i go authorize ignorance is not an excuse and he said i mishandled it.

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>> once again it's mismanagement. they're so ensconced on the penthouse floor that they're not seeing how these things will be thought about. nfl players, 70% african american, there are a ton of studies that show the ways in which domestic violence intersects with the african-american community because of the legacy that still exists of racism and the leg gas sif the intersection with criminal justice system that you need to have diversity and they don't have it 37. >> one word answer if you could. the arizona republic talking about the top ten potential replacements. is he still commissioner a month from now? >> i think 70% he's gone, 30% he stays. >> wasn't one word, but worth it. appreciate it. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement?

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house. president obama responded to a question about the security scare on friday night. he expressed his full confidence in the work of the secret service. >> i'm grateful for the sacrifices they make on my before. >> this comes after a federal prosecutor called omar gonzalez a danger to the president in federal court came. t today. the judge ruled he will be held without bail until his next court days. jim cavanaugh is on the phone. so somebody being called a potential threat to the president. what do you make of that? >> that's huge. the prosecutor obviously has some evidence or he's adding up the fact that he had a knife and is suffering from some psychiatric distress as points

to argue with the court that he was a danger to the president. of course his council will argue that the president wasn't even home, but legally that's not going to make much difference if they want to press the threat. >> the idea is that you still do have staff inside the white house and i know there having gone there, it's not easy to get close to the white house. it's quite a feat to have scaled the fence and not have anybody stop him. do we have a security problem or as we were discussing earlier do we have a budgetary problem? >> well, i think we have a little bit of all of the above. the congress could step up here in some emergency appropriation and provide the service with some key funding to get this fixed fast. in the short term, they can deploy more k-9 and uniformed officers and beef it up immediately. but the congress can step up, as well. like we said earlier on your

show, we were talking about the point that we don't need a lot of lethargic study groups. we need to take some action, get landscape architects, get the security fixed. and they can do it faster than normal. the president, the congress. this is something the country should all agree on. our president and the personnel in the white house have to be protected. this really is a good thing for the service, it exposed a weakness and they should use to fix it. >> and that's a good point. let's go to chris jansing at the white house. now you have something that is a bit more of a serious character here. we have a federal judge saying this man was a threat to the president. any reaction there from folks he white house? >> a danger to the president is the way they put it. and i think they would agree even though they have been very measured in their response, the president just saying when he was asked if he had confidence in the secret service, the secret service does a great job,

i'm grateful for the sacrifice they make for me and my family. you also know that on friday, the president said he obviously found it all very concerning. i mean within ten minutes of when the first family left here, a guy with a knife ran across the lawn unimpeded and got through the front doors of the white house. that is unprecedented. and so while they're careful about what they say, there is and ongoing investigation. obviously there is a level of concern when someone with a weapon and who had -- no way of them knowing for certain what he may have had on his person -- was able to penetrate the white house. >> and we're now learning that the federal prosecutor says 34r gonzalez had more than 800 round of am you munition in his car. this gets worse for the secret service i would imagine. >> obviously it is escalating he is poe then shexponentially. mr. gonzalez will be back in

court on october 1. he was in there something close to an hour. so they have a lot of details here that we have not heard before and you have to put it also in to the context, you know, we had sbon else who came over the fence and i can tell you i was right where i am now and he was walking toward me and there were agents with guns drawn pointed right in this direction. you have another incident afterwards where somebody in a car comes up to a barricade and refuses to get out. so all of that plays into the context of the threat that this man posed and what it might mean for this investigation. any changes that we'll see not just internally, because we've seen some of that already with increased patrols, increased surveillance, the front door now locked. but also what it might mean for tourists, for other visitors. and for the image of the white

house. >> and hopefully you you can hang on. i want to go back to jim cavanaugh. in addition to having the president of the yununited stat inside of that building this, is a family with young children. it seem incredibly alarming. you've had a woman ram a white house gate and shot the by i believe capitol police, you've had one person that jumps the fence, not a second person jumps the fence and federal prosecutors saying he had more than 800 rounds of ammunition in his car. this is almost a crisis in the basic security function protecting the president. >> i agree. and you make a great point about the president's family. all the people who work around the president can't be constantly concerned about their safety. so it's critical that they're

2409 concerned with that minute by minute. and that's what the service has delivered for a couple years and now they have to get it fixed. so we all have the feels of security for the first family and all of those around them. and kret to be seen the am you hugh nation in the car. that will be interesting how that plays out. >> and chris, do we expect to hear anything more from the white house today? >> i certainly don't anticipate it, although you can imagine now that this information is out, they will be getting a lot of questions. so we'll wait and see. but i think they know there are a lot of questions yet to be answered. and those tough questions will be asked. folks to go the internal investigation were privy to the information we just heard in court. >> that wraps things up for the reed report. see you tomorrow. the week starts here on the

cycle with all eyes focused on terror. isis fighters about pushing closer to the border of turkey. turkey is still hesitant to commit to military ops despite heavy clashes this weekend and release of four dozen turkish hostages. france has joined air strikes in k are iraq, but not syria. president obama will chair a security council meeting on the isis threat. >> topic of discussion will be what nations around the globe can do to mitigate the threat posed by foreign terrorist fighters. what the president hopes to accomplish in the context of the u.n. council meeting is to have a discussion about what kinds of global standards can be put in case. >> there is beefed up security after an armed vet with ptsd

jumped the security fence and walked in the front door. omar gonzalez will be held without bail until his next court date october 1. president obama has of course expressed his concern about the incident. >> nobody should be able to pose that type of threat to this facility at the white house. that's the principal mission of the secret service. they're taking this very seriously and as with any incident, they will take a hard look at what went wrong and what they need do to fix it. >> meantime in new england, the hunt for three afghan troops who went missing is over after a chase that led the fbi, massachusetts state police and u.s. national guard all the way from lovely cape cod to niagara falls. the men were apparently trying to cross into canada. officials have said they never posed a security threat, but this is not the first time this has happened.