jumped the security fence and walked in the front door. omar gonzalez will be held without bail until his next court date october 1. president obama has of course expressed his concern about the incident. >> nobody should be able to pose that type of threat to this facility at the white house. that's the principal mission of the secret service. they're taking this very seriously and as with any incident, they will take a hard look at what went wrong and what they need do to fix it. >> meantime in new england, the hunt for three afghan troops who went missing is over after a chase that led the fbi, massachusetts state police and u.s. national guard all the way from lovely cape cod to niagara falls. the men were apparently trying to cross into canada. officials have said they never posed a security threat, but this is not the first time this has happened.

we start with jim miklaszewski. they were trying to cross in canada. why? >> these three afghan soldier, two captains and a major, did not walk away from this training unit on saturday night. they were actually on a tour at a shopping mall when they disappeared t disappeared. they didn't do it on an impulse. apparently they had a plan and that plan was to once they got here for this training mission which began almost a week ago now, their apparent plan was to leave the mission and make it a way -- make their way across new york, across the porter are into cap in a take where it's known that can that today has a pretty lenient asylum policy and has become a haven for many muslims.

from the get-go, military and police never considered these individuals to be a threat because they had been well vetted and they were not armed. the exercise that they were involved in with the national guard was not an actual deployment and actual kinetic exercise, it was a table top exercise. so they never had any weapons and we are not armed when they slipped away from their military escorts on saturday night. >> jinl pim jim miklaszewski, t so much. let's get you to the white house and chris jansing. the president spoke about the security brief. >> yeah, he expressed that the secret service does a great job. but what we're learning out of federal court is very concerning on obviously.

omar gone s omar gonzalez who jumped the fence on friday was called by a federal prosecutor a danger to the president and we are just learning that he was known to officials here. on august 21 this year, he was stopped while walking along the south fence of the white house and according to process dupros thatted a hatchet inside his rear waistband. he was not arrested. he was allowed to go to his car where he agreed to let police search it but they found dogs, camping gear, nothing else. and he wasn't arrested. let's fast forward to this month. snksly walked through the unlocked front door of the white house. now wire learning that he allowed police once again to search his car, they found 800 rounds of ammunition both in boxes and magazines, two

hatchets and machete. and they found that he was carrying a knife. already some procedures and protocols along the white house have been changed. they're upping patrols, locking the front door. there is and ongoing internal investigation. and while the president has stated that he has confidence in the secret service, we do know from josh earnest that he was concerned and briefed multiple times at camp david. that he was updated on the investigation multiple times through the weekend. and this new information just coming out of federal court. the suspect will be held until october 1st where there will be another court appearance but obviously this is getting worse for the secret service because of what was found inside his car. >> always a good idea to lock the front door.

thank you very much. we turn back now to the fight against isis where thousan thousands of refugees are fleeing in to turkey. trying to escape the violence and culture of hatred that isis is trying to enforce. of course the battle to escape extremism is not exclusive to syria or the middle east. zach abraham, author of the terror son, an amazing son. his father assassinated 24 years ago, was convicted of planning the world trade center attack respect the first one. zach says he's proof that even people raised on hate can choose peace and reject violence. it doesn't have to be like father like son. his very inspiring tent talk on all of this has nearly 1.3 million views. thank you so much for being here. you grew up in a home with a appear who was teaching you about hate and yet you somehow

learned to reject that. talk about you how you made that journey from wanting to be like your boy and learning to go toward peace. >> well, really it was about living outside of the ideological bubble that i had been raised in. when you're trying to indoctr-d friday nature them, you have to isolate them and convince them that everyone out side the bubble is a threat.nature them, isolate them and convince them that everyone out side the bubble is a threat. when i was exposed to the world, it made it that much easier to reject what i had been taught as a child. >> help this us understand the mentality inside the bubble. we hear you can't just attack isis militarily. so what is it about hate and extremism and violence that is actually appealing to some

people? >> well, beyond military strategy, isis is a symptom of the problem. it's more difficult for extremist gruoups to recruit people more likely to join a group like isis for example. >> zach, i found your talk incredibly moving and i recommend everyone watching to watch your talk. it's one thing to chart a different chart from your dad, but another thing to speak out openly about what your dad did and how you charted a different path. it's also a very risky thing to talk about openly given everything that is going on in the world today. risky for you you and your family. why did you decide to speak openly about it? >> well, i became involved in

the anti-war movement before i ever decided to start speaking publicly and i just saw instances where i thought if perhaps people who are standing next to me protesting or the counter protesters across the street, that if they knew maybe where i came from and you how i had changed my life, that it would give them some context because the vast majority of muslims in the world are not exposed to this kind of extremism. it's a very unique experience. and i hope to show people that if someone like me who is exposed to this ideology and can come out of it promoting acceptance, what does that say. >> one of the things we know well about terrorism is that it seeks to do through information and theater what it cannot chief through military objectives. so you can kill what is relatively a small number of peoplechief through military objectives. so you can kill what is relatively a small number of people but terrorize an entire society. when you look at what we're in

right now and you think beyond the american reaction to what we've seen isis do, but the reaction say since you talk about rejecting some of this, what do you think about children say in syria or iraq right now who are watching all of this happen and obviously feeling like they have to choose between some pretty dark options? >> well, that's the thing. it's a lack of options. i think it's been pretty obvious since we invade iraq and afghanistan hat the use of violence to try to -- you you can't bomb people into democracy. they have to go into it willingly. and not every problem can be fixed with a hammer. we need to try to find a better solution. i don't think anyone would say that the environment there has been any better because we've spent the last 13 years there. >> we just showed some footage of that video. we see all the time isis putting forth propaganda to try to recruit folks from all over the

west to join their mission. and to try to combat that, the state department now has a think again campaign to show the harsh realities that they would actually face if they ended up becoming a terrorist. what do you make of all that and is that the right way to combat this? >> well, for one, i think because of the age that we live in, it's easy for us to have access to propaganda, whether we can be swayed by it or not. then on twitter can see what sort of propaganda isis is trying to spread. to me it's kind of a lack of sense of proportion because we're talking about a few hundred people out of the millions of muslims that live in the united states and tens of millions more muslims that live in europe. i think that it's getting much more attention than it deserves. isaiah is using western voices to narrate these horrible videos for the specific purpose of trying to gain attention in the u.s.. >> zach, your story sis

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baltimore ravens top brass will face the cameras again at the top of the hour. ray rice is expected to appeal

his indefinite suspension from the nfl that was a result of the tmz sports video. apparently showing him sucker punching his then fee andiance. and there was a bench clearing brawl on sunday. coming just two days after commission roger goodell vowed to overall rules on player conduct. more cameras were there on sunday when goodell took in the giants game against the texans. and he promises to tackle the way his players behave. andrew plant brant is a sports business analyst. thank you so much for being with us. >> it's great a story. a time in the nfl we've never had. >> absolutely right. and we played the press confidence last friday and there have been a lot of different

opinions. but the reality is all he really had to do was keep the support of the 32 team owners. we can sit here and say whatever we want, but as long as he has their support, nothing else really matters. >> it's interesting. because it obvious will you didn't play well to the public and i've said that i thought we should see more human side, some vulnerability, some frailty. in addition to saying he was sorry, it was long on wlae got wrong but very light on what he could get right in terms of details going forward. we have vague committees being set up, we start about task forces, hiring, things like that but nothing specific. but as you you mentioned, he reports to the 32 owners. when people think of the nfl, they don't think of this mono lit in new york. it's really 32 club it is s to e reports. everybody has been stepping up to the mike, so many owner respect saying we support roger

100%. that tells me he has the support he needs. i think it's mythical to think he might step down. he has tremendous support as you said from the people he needs. the problem with the press conference was it seemed like he was speaking to them, more of a corporate fast sad. but ultimately, that is would is judging him. >> great to have you on the show. we all know power an hobhors a vacuum, so it seem he will remain commissioner, but lose some of his power. so trying to think about who would be able to gain some you power if roger loses some. what is it perhaps the slipping of goodell mean for demaury smith? >> i noticed a sea change in the

way discipline was meted out. goodell was the new sheriff in town. he wouldn't wait for the legal system. he was going to impose swift and rapid and sure fire it is plain a discipline. now being excoriated for race rice discipline that was too short. roger goodell is abdicating the you power that he so desperately wanted. who gets the power besides that? we have an opportunity here for the union. hair relationship has not been good. here is an opening for them. but i think there will be other experts, other people brought into this. i would think this conduct committee has he referenced vaguely will have some power and

should have some power. and in my estimation, it should be truly independent without ties to the nfl or nflpa, bring in people who work with violence, bring in people skilled at this and really have a rigorous program. >> and goodell has said that his mishl punishment of ray rice, that he got it wrong. but one of the excuses that he used essentially for initially levying that pretty soft punishment was that rice's account of what happened in the elevator differed from the video and he didn't see the video according to him. let's take a listen. >> we got new information from the first time i met with him to my initial discipline. which i acknowledged was not sufficient. that it was clear there was an act of domestic violence. but it was inconsistent with the way he described what happened.

>> as you know, espn was out with some pretty interesting reporting over the weekend saying essentially, no, ray rice told him in his meeting with goodell exactly what happened in the elevator. goodell should not have been surprised. and you're saying that goodell at least is safe for now. and as long as he has the support of the team owners, he will be safe. but also the coverup can be worse than the initial crime. is it possible there is more information that comes out here about what and when t. and how goodell knew? >> i think there is more to come out. robert mueller is involved and he's looking through everything. the union is appealing his indefinite suspension. and in 40 minutes, the owner of the ravens will address the media. i've said from the beginning compared to the public scorn,

ravens have skated. we don't know how or are what they knew, but they supported ray rice. they had the press conference with the banner behind them where they tweeted out things leak gentlem like gentleman may oig pojanay role. i have been around the league a long time. we have to see who knew what and when us a whand what was the fa. was there business relationships, human political support into this situation. why did either the ravens or roger goodell or one or both are or neither risk their career over ray rice. that's what we want to know. >> goodell didn't say that much in the friday press conference, but he did say several things that aren't true. he referred to the idea that he

couldn't characterize what ray rice said because of and ongoing investigation. that's not true. you can still put you out consistent factual information. he also said because one of the criminal indictments was on appeal, he couldn't act on it. that's not true under the bylaws. anyone who works in a normal job knows you can deal with things particularly when you get convicted. so there were just big flaring holes there. i want to put up the new york tab employeds reaction here which basically that's it. they came to the conclusion that 55% on the issue of honesty don't believe goodell has been honest. at what point do all these problems add up? they don't want to support someone who looks line he's

brazenly dissembling before the public. >> there is the credibility issue, the public trust, in-telliin-te in-telling frgritty issue. the trust of the public is in play here. he has a lot of lawyers around him and to me that press conference was very lawyer-written. it was guarded, it was koornt. there were planned and unrevealing answers. tmz said i got the video in a phone call, why couldn't you get it. vague references from goodell that they wouldn't quote/unquote stoop to levels to get video that they did. but i've been around league investigations. they bring the might of the nfl, league security, team security, law enforcement, they go hard to get this kind of information. we will have to find out -- and i expect steve biscotti to be guardeded, as well. but this is why you have the investigation.

hopefully stormer director mueller is going to be comprehensive, look at every text, every e-mail, and we get to the bottom of it and that will be public. >> sometimes the coverup can be far worse than the crime itself. thank you very much for being with us. still ahead, why the problems we're seeing in the nfl are just the tip of the iceberg. and next a big week here in new york. world leaders meet at the u.n. to tackle isis and climate change. (birds chirping softly in background.) (loud engine sounds!) what! how's it going? heard you need a ride to school. i know just the thing to help you get going. power up with new cheerios protein. i have a cold. i took nyquil but i'm still stuffed up. nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. really? alka-seltzer plus night

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multip multiple, have made commitments to be part of military action. >> john kerry making his case this a.m. to joe and mika for training and arming syrian rebels to fight isis. kerry is here in new york for the youunited nations general assembly that could not be higher. our senior political reporter joining us from d.c. where the president is having other people pack his bags. perry, we'll get to climate change later. but first let's start with isis. the president is going to the u.n., he will ask them, speak to them about isis. what can the u.n. do about the isis problem? >> it can't do a lot more than we're talking about, but i think

the goal is obama wants to make this a not the u.s. against isis, but the world against isis. you saw that that's what kerry was doing, as well. a lot of focus on can they get more international partners. is this a worldwide military effort focusing on isis in syria, isis in remark. and that's what the speech on wednesday will be back. obama is trying to make it look like the world is it fighting this fight. >> just when we thought isis was our greatest threat, there is a new terror group out there that a lot of people have been talking about called khor schlk. it's based out of syria and they have warned they're an even bigger threat because their main focus is plotting an attack on western soil. politically, how does obama handle all of this? he just spoke to the american people about the threat of isis

and yet they are just one piece of this. >> one thing to keep in mind is the war on terror we've talked about for a long time has never ended. we've had drone strikes throughout the presidency so it's not as if obama has forgotten that fight about that but i think you will see a focus on making sure isis kind of came out of nowhere to a lot of us. the president himself made that comment that he rejets about the jv team comparison. so i think you will see more of a focus making sure there are not new groups that develop, that the u.s. catches up to too late. >> turning to the other part meeting at the u.n., climate change, big protest march yesterday, 300,000 here in new york and a lot of attention on that. the president of course said this would be a big part of his second term. take a listen to that in the second inaugural address.

>> we will respond to the threat of climate change. knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children. some my still deny the judgment of science, but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires and crippling drought and more you powerful storms. the path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult.ou powerful. the path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult.u powerful . the path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult. powerful s. the path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult.powerful st. the path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult. we cannot cede the technology. we must claim its promise. that is how we will preserve our planet. commanded to our care by god. >> sound goods. how is he doing? >> he's actually done a lot of policy on this issue. not a lot of speech, but behind the scenes, they have done a lot. this administration has passed laws limiting emissions from are cars, from power plants, they will announce something on refrigerators on tuesday, as

well. there is an action plan. the president announced in june rules for every state to abide by. so this is an administration that has done a lot on policy on climate change considering they have been opposed by republicans in congress. >> and obviously there is only so much that the executive can do without the backing of the legislature. and i thought the white house has a new budget director, sean did not kn donovan, and he made the argument that climate change will cost us billions of dollars. so if you are a fiscal conservative, you should be concerned about climate change. it seems like a way to try to reach out to the right. are we seeing any cracks in the republican deep opposition to tackling climate change? >> very little. in fact you're seeing the

opposite. i think bobby jindal last week made a comment about how he's not a scientist. you're hearing a lot of that from republicans. i'm not a scientist, i can't answer the question about whether climate change is happening or not. so i don't see a lot of movement. >> not playing well in the primary. >> but i think what you you are seeing is that democrat leaders are using this as an issue. hillary clinton talked about it a lot. it's not clear it me the public has to make this the biggest issue because obama can use the executive actions, clinton can do the same thing. i think you're seeing learn from governors and cities are taking this on, as well. i don't think you have to have a cap and trade bill in congress for the u.s. to do something on climate change. although of course the important issue is they will talk about this idea for something of a climate pact that would be like signed next year. the big thing there is treaties actually to have to be approved by congress. and therefore the republican factor comes into mind there.

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>> it was the most sophisticated code they had ever seen. >> these are basically holes in a program that even the people who made it or the company may not though abouabout know about. why is that so dangerous? will. >> our goal is really to show how vulnerable we are. we like to tell stories about science and technology and how they affect our lives. and also one of our goals at nova is to let the experts explain the story. so i'm actually go to slthrow ts to sean because this is what he does. >> sean, go ahead. >> certainly. the challenge where he se see it they're inherent flaws in the code. in some cases they're actual capabilities that have been undocumented and people take advantage ever these to gain access. we've seen it in the retail industry. more importantly, the effects on critical infrastructure can be

devastating. >> where are we most vulnerable? what should we be the most concerned about? >> i would say the area of most concern today is just our interconnected environment from the systems that run power distribution to the financial sector to the day to day operations that we come to rely on all have a digital presence or a digital connection. and the landscape now is very broad for someone to take advantage of. >> and yet, sean, you talk about how our interconnected environment is at greatest risk and yet some of the technology being used here is remarkably sort of low tech. you talk about how the usb flash drives are problematic. >> yes, that is one of the easiest ways to get into a

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us. >> thank you very much for having me. >> so let start with that initial question, the rules of engagement. to our rules of engagement need to change to reflect the changing nature of the enemies we're facing? >> i tell you what, your lead into this segment was great because you touched on a lot of things that i really wanted to kind of get out to the american people. and although the book story deals mainly with the taliban in afghanistan, i really wanted the story is much bigger than that, something the american people can take to heart and have a better understanding of not only that con frequeflictconflict, b warfare in general that we'll be fighting in the years and decades to come. >> we've been hearing that isis is this incredible fighting force, they have strategic and tactical prowess. what you are you hearing from your guys on the ground? have they earn that had

reputation? >> i wouldn't go that far nap is giving them way too much credit. just the mere fact that they think they're intimidating our service members apground fighters by putting out a series of crappy youtube videos is kind of silly. but they rolled over the iraqi army basically dropping their weapons turning over vehicles. so they haven't had a good fight yet. so i wouldn't put them on any high level of regard. >> there are a lot of people out there saying we left iraq too soon. if we had just stayed in longer, isis would not be as strong as it is today. i would probably hit back on that saying the outcome we're seeing now was inevitable regardless of when we left. what would you say to those folks? >> that's a valid opinion. you can't say if we'd have stayed two years longer this wouldn't have happened. the only thing ki can say, when

we withdrew, we didn't maintain a large air base. we had no way of having a staging or leaping point in to the region should an incident like this happen. and i really want people to understand that isis is just one thing. they are just one fad that is happening right now. and the military members and guys that are operating on the ground that squeeze triggers, we see all these groups the same. i don't care if they are rebels in somalia or remnants of al qaeda in yemen or anyplace else in the region. we see them all, they're all cut from the same cloth. they're thugs. they use terror and violence to suppress reengions of people. and as i heard earlier, thinking about what is the end state here. how can we win this. and that is truly the question here. because you can go in and you

can drone strike, you can drop bomb, put guys on the ground, to all these things that the u.s. military has extensive experience in doing with the past two wars in the doing with past two wars we have had in the region. but understand it is a regcultu issue that is throughout the region. like i heard before, that won't be solved with just pure force. >> you say cut from the same cloth, if that is true, that's the whole problem. because the only thing congress did before going out of town was signing on the theory rebels are not cut from the same cloth and they will do what we want to do when dealing with isis. now to your book, and special ops in particular you talk about dagger 22 force. you talk about there could be

more targeted or light weight intervention, not with just drones but with actual people. what do you think is the military ability to use special ops with the limitations, we don't have the ground jump off in iraq because we didn't get the status agreement. >> yes, special ops are good at what they do. they can go into an area and train indij nogenous forces, we do thing like that, we can get in there and do what we did before. we can push the iraqis to stand up to the country and maintain their position and go in and take out key elements of the isis command. but we're going to deal with the same problem. because eventually we're going to have to leave. the answer is not 24-hour baby

sitting of the region. that's just not going to work. >> right. >> and then you come full circle to the whole cultural and regional problem going on in the middle east. it's really a shame. i feel for a lot of the countries in the region. the rest of the world only knows them for oil and terrorism. and i hate it. because it's such a beautiful country. i've been to many countries, jordan, dubai, kenya, and the people there are wonderful. and i hate to see these road groups being so brutal and taking the forefront on people's perspective to that region. >> such an important point. we don't want to lose site of the people and the culture that exists in most places there. thank you for your services and for your time today. up next, war and the nfl,

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slowly taken from them by the game they love. almost one-third of players developing long term problems, likes memory loss and other things, developing these far faster than the regular population. >> how is your short-term memory these days? >> short-term memory's not good. i won't remember a hell of a lot about this interview in about ten minutes probably. >> he's 55 and far from unique. the nfl says almost one and three players are all but literally losing their minds. but scientists say the frequency of traumatic brain injury is far greater than one and three, some saying it is a lot higher. the game starts to sound like a version of russia roulette.

scientists are calling it cte and when you realize it doesn't just make people forget but makes people angry and abusivab. you can see there may be a direct link between cte and off field violence as we are seeing now. there are running backs and line backers competing for small patches of group. quarterback throwing passes, head coaches like generals, two armies fighting for real estate fighting to penetrate the other's land. that is all well and good but when the facade is broken and people are confronted with the way football leaves the mind like a heap of meat. no helmet can stop all the trauma. we have to say what are we celebrating here.

in 2009 it was said likening football to dog fighting. saying the players are like dogs willing to kill themselves for their master. there is something profoundly awry in the relationship between the players and the game. it gives incentives to players who destroy themselves. how do we continue loving that without cringing. the facade of the sport was thrown from its throne with the protests. it becomes hard to watch without thinking these guys are pounding themselves towards a sort of walking brain deadness, because you have seen so many favorite players fall into alzheimer or

worse, seeing them kill themselves, because it is inescapable to think football is not going to be our number one sport. what will the world do to stop isis? we're about to find out. it's monday september 22nd and this is "now." >> they are plotting externally. >> the isis propaganda machine is at it again. >> reporting threatening americans here at home. >> recruiting westerners they are pretty darn successful. >> growing questions about the fight against isis. >> the coalition building will be on going. >> turkey is our ally. they have absolutely pledged to be effective and deeply involved. >> nobody has come