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>> tell me what you really want. >> justice. >> from melbourne to berlin, to london, people took to the streets. >> we are not going down without a fight. >> we're moving forward with or without them. >> i'm here to support global change. >> i want our future to be safe. >> i don't know why everyone is not here. good to have you with us tonight folks. thanks for watching. ask yourself the question, how can so many people gather such little attention. we start with an issue on every american's mind. that is climate change.
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you're either a believer, or your denier. but the media decides over 300,000 people in new york city isn't quite enough to be a story. i findpish astonishi astonishing. the media is not covering climate change because they know washington is broken and then know politically it just might not be a reality in our lifetime. if that was not an impeachment rally for president obama than there would be all kinds of coverage. because that is a political reality if republicans win the senate. a lot of lip service has come because of climate change. is this public pressure going to grow? is it going to make a difference? it might. the rockefeller family, big story today, they announced their charitable organization will begin divesting funds from
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oil companies. bold move considering the late john rockefeller built his portion on oil. really? they don't want to make money any more with all their history? someti timely announcement with tomorrow's u.n. skplclimate cha more than 120 leaders will come together many mid town manhat n manhattan. the president will address new actions they will take on climate change. he will call on others to combat climate change with meaningful action. what is that? earlier today secretary of state john kerry kicked off the week with an empassionedweek. announcing united states will contribute $15 million to start
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a world bank auction emissions program. sounds good. who else is on board? all of this is taking place in the shadows of sunday's massive climate change protest, an estimated 300,000 people gathered to bring awareness to the dangers of climate change and the need for action. it was the largest climate change rally in history. the ed show was on the ground to capture the action. >> i want action taken. and we have to participate. >> it's time to take action on reducing fossil fuel usage. >> i think people need to all get together and decide that they care about the environment. >> we all need to be aware and come together in small little changes that each of us can make to make this world a better
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place to live. >> community, labor, faith and progressive groups organized to demand action. >> we gather in the streets at this critical time when the u.n. is meeting on tuesday, it will put us in a position that people really care about this issue. we can also add urgency to the process as well. >> one of the biggest things we're insisting on. ♪ ♪ this land is my land ♪ >> a carbon tax. a real true environmental cost of manufacturing practices and energy production. >> we're here to protect our land and water. we are the stewarts of the land. i have a young lady that i brought to show the people who we are protecting. we are not only protecting the native american people and children, we're protecting all of them. >> the people in washington, in new york, in the world, the people that are -- that control everything, that make all the
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money, they don't care, because why? they're greedy. >> americans are trying to send a message to elected officials that tackling climate change should be a priority. >> one of the great embarrassments, but at a time when the scientific community is overwhelmingly in agreement that climate change is real, we have a major political party called the republican party which denies it. >> a lot of the republicans are scared. we need to give it more push. >> we're the future of this country whether whoever's in charge likes it or not. so it is up to us to really take the charge and make this climate justice fight to them. >> students from more than 300 college campuses from around the country mobilize. >> take a bike. walk. you know, exercise.
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do whatever you can to save the planet. >> all of us have to come together for a change to happenful we are the next generation. we are going to be the change. >> let them know is that this is what you're vote is depending on. this is a serious issue that will affect you and your children and your children's children. >> many parents and grand parents wanted to emphasize the need to protect our children's future. >> i worry about the type of world we're giving them in terms of the pollution and infections. >> our voice matters. >> i have three grandchildren. i'm here because i want them to live, not just as old as i am at 67, but to live in a better world than we have. ♪ ♪ >> if there was ever a time for
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congress to movement to fight climate change, i would think it is now. the deniers behind one thing," citizens united" that's their fire wall. if they can maximize every effort and keep that as the law of the land they will be able to afford any effort on climate change. unless more people do what these folks did on sunday in new york city. that may not be the last protest. the american people are on board. it's just a matter of whether they believe things can happen in washington. world leaders, including the world's largest polluter, china, they are on board, now it is time for the congress to act, but of course they are not going to act until after the election because they are back home getting reelected. tonight's question, is the main stream media asleep at the
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wheel on clooiimate change? we'll bring you the results later in the program. for more i'm going to bring in executive director and activist and from the lower sioux nation. great to have you all. jane, all of the money is with coal. all of the money is with oil. how do you view this move by the rockefeller family to divest after being involved with oil after all these years? what does this signal in your opinion? >> it signals the fossil fuels are energy of the past. the rockefellers are involved in grass roots communities to make sure local voices are on the front line of the climate fight.
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now they are taking it a step further saying a simple and bold message, that no -- coal. i hope more foundations, as well as businesses start to take that step as well. >> what about the coverage, there didn't seem to be too much main stream media coverage. are you disappointed about that? >> yes i am. obviously we just did not see that much out there yesterday. and, you know, this is a big thing. this is our future. this is our children's future. and we're, you know, it's just basically being ignored. just like they don't want to face reality, they don't want to do something about climate change. they don't want to do things like stop the keystone excel
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pipe line. it is total inaction. corporate greed. not what is 3webest for the peo, the country, and the world. >> how can president obama go to this climate change rally at the u.n., give a big speech on what everybody has to do and yet give a stamp of approval to the keystone pipe line. it seems that the president would be somewhat hypocritical. the facts are true it will add to the climate change we're experienci experiencing. do you think this rally will have an impact on the president's decision. >> i think this will. a point of clarification, i am hear representing the ingidge nous environment networks, as one of the organizations helping to put together the march.
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it was the hope of this march to really bring together the nation and show people that it is just not a small minority that want to see some change on how we approach climate. and i, even though there's not much media attention out there, i still see it will register with people. i think 400,000 people is something you can't easily ignore. for those of us on the ground it was really inspiring and an amazing experience. >> jane, your thoughts on keystone excel was it a big conversation in is this march yesterday. this is the next big thing when it comes to a decision on the environment, outside of all the speeches everybody gives. >> absolutely right. during the march we were honoring those on the front line of the crisis right now.
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the sandy victims, those on the export mining the front line. and that weekend we will literally be on the front line of the fight against keystone xl. we hope that bringing in those celebrities that it will show the president that it is not only the hollywood elites that oppose this pipeline there are farmers, ranchers, native folk that's care about protecting their land and water and you can't continue to give the past to the politicians who just want to give us talking points. so we want to say to president obama, you promised us hope and we're holding you accountable to that message. you will see on the stage a large message of harvest the hope. we are keeping him accountability. the only if many decision we will accept on climate is the rejection from keystone xl.
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>> all right, what were people talking about. when you look at washington there is no movement whatsoever, so how is this going to work? >> well, that's, you know, that's really a question. and we're hoping that, you know, you get 300,000 or 400,000 people together, people should listen to that. you hear people out there on the street talking about the pipeline. people are saying, this is the first thing that's got to be stopped. we got to do this next. that's going to set a pattern. people are talking about renewable energy. they're talking about solar, wind, you know, more ethanol, more biodiesel and that sort of thing. so getting clean fuels and weening ourselves off fossil fuels ending the fossil fuel era. it's time to move forward.
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people see this. they know it's got to be done. and i think we've got a generation out here that's coming up that's going to continue to put pressure on our politicians. and we scertainly hope that if the politicians aren't doing the rie right thing, that we vote them out of office. that's what we got to do. we got to get people in there that realize that this crisis is genuine, this crisis is something that has to be dealt with immediately. we can't wait ten years. it's got to start happening now. >> dallas, as a native american how important is it for government to combat climate change when the native americans have been discarded on so many fronts. can you get the attention of our government to do something? >> i think we can. i think there are definitely some legal ways in how, you
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know, there's a nation to nation relationship that is established between a lot of our tribes and the federal government, and i think that's our avenue in order to communicate. and encourage the -- the -- the u.s. government and basically tell them, you have to uphold that relationship. the rules in and the path that we are taking, we hope the united states signs on to that as well. the main thing from our ind indigenous perspective, is the value that you put only t the e. this is mother earth. you can't have economy based on the dollar amount on the land, on the trees. for indigenous delegation here and the people's climate march
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is also calling for a rejection of the carbon market. it is a continuation of the same thing. putting a value on planet earth. you can't have a system based on that. going to keep going through the same cycle. >> great to have you all with us tonight. thanks for being part of it all. i appreciate your time on "the ed show" thanks so much for letting us know what you think on this story. coming up, breaking news on the ray rice story. we're following a press conference with ravens head coach john harbaugh after new comments from the team owner. plus we will talk about the future of adrian peterson. but first slick politics, senator sharon brown joins me to discuss the future of big oil in the wake of the rockefeller
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what we know, can help you grow. welcome back. keep in touch with us on twitter and facebook. >> time now for trenders. what's hot. what's not. the ed show social media nation decided here are today's top trenders out there voted on by you. >> number one trender, gate crasher. >> the secret service has yet to explain how an intruder made his way through the front door of the white house. >> the idea that the white house was unsecure is troubling. >> 22 omar gonzalez is an iraq war veteran with a knife in his pocket.
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>> secret service director has stepped up patrols around the area. >> the white house has confidence in the agency and it's investigation. >> the number two trender, on the ground. >> the united states is going be sending 3,000 military personnel in an effort to combat the worse ebola outbreak in world history. >> more american troops land in africa to combat the ebola epidemic. >> the pentagon will send engineers to set up 17 treatment centers in liberia. >> they are trying to save lives. >> we must act immediately to bring stability to the people of west africa. and today's top trender. slick politics. >> the future of this country is not with the burning of oil and
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coal and fossil fuel. >> the rockefeller family, which made their vast fortunate on oil, has announced they will begin divesting from followies fuel. >> corporate divestment from fossil fuel oil. >> we are still giving them $4 billion of your tax dollars in sub sid eyes every yea-- subsid >> got to end all the subsidies and tax break that's go to the oil companies. >> joining me senator brown of ohio. great to have you with us. >> good to be here. >> i know you are on the right side of this issue. the rockefeller fund is one of 50 to announce they are divesting from big oil companies. what's this mean and what is your reaction and how big of an impact do you think will have. >> i think it under scores how
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the climate deniers are wrong. that the oil industry involves power in washington. they can't control everything. as you showed the oil industry getting $4 billion a year in subsidie subsidies. when they complain about federal investment in solar they never mention the $4 billion invested in oil. that's because the tee party folks are getting contributions from big oil and not people who want to see alternative energy. >> why do we give those subsidies to big oil. is it research in development. is it because they hire people. is that what they tell congress and everyone goes along with it. what's at the root of this and what will change it. >> the same reason congress won't fix too big too fail.
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that too many members of the house and senate are too close to these special interest groups. we have tried a number of times to eliminate subsidies for big oil, each time the oil industry organizes in congress to philibuster and stop us from doing it. we can't even get a hearing in the house on those types of issues because the big oil companies funding the way that big tobacco funds tee party members. it just means that that's why these elections matter in the fall. it means why we have to hold the senate and make sure people who think this way don't add to the majority in the house. >> so the rockefeller move will probably motivate voters and bring forward awareness before
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it will shake anyone in congress. the grip big oil has on congress it may be light years from turning it around. it takes power. it would take a 60-seat member by the democrats, philibuster proof to break the cycle. isn't that correct? >> yeah. or it would take republicans that are on the ballot to realize they are on the wrong side. we seen the minimum wage flip 40 or 50 in the house when incumbents realize not only does public strongly support minimum wang b wage but they will vote against candidates who vote against minu minimum wage. i also think what's amazing in
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ohio 500,000 people lost their drinking waters for a couple days. one of the reasons is because of the possible fosfates coming into their drinking water. more and more people, it's not just fires in the west or floods in the east, it's all of these kinds of things we're seeing because of climate change. voters are realizing that. more and more politicians are realizing they are on the wrong side of history. they either change or they're looking for a job after the next election or two. >> senator brown of ohio. greats to have you on the show. >> thank you. >> thanks a lot for being here. coming up moments ago the ravens responded to a report a leaning team executive asked for le
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the climate rally. >> 310,000 people is the reported number. that's knock to shake your bones at, no question about it, that's a great start but there has to be more of that. all of those people who are out there need to get engaged across the country and hold elected officials accountable. change is hard to come by but this is a great start, the biggest climate change rally ever. i don't think it will be the last. coming up, we talk more about ravens next.
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welcome back to the ed show. we have breaking news. a short time ago baltimore ravens gave a press conference regarding a report that claims ravens executives were given a detailed report on the second ray rice video which shows the ex-running back knocking out his then-fiance. they asked roger goodell for
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leniency which was granted and led to his two-game suspension. today ravens owner steve bisciotti questioned the articles sourcing. >> i think that what's obvious is that the majority of the sources are people that work for ray. almost everything in there is anonymous but it is clear from the subject matter that there's, it's ray's attorney, it's ray's agent, and it's ray's friends. and you know, they are building a case for reinstatement. and the best way to build a case for reinstatement is to make everybody else look like they're lying. so, um, their accusations didn't jive with what we knew as fact.
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>> bisciotti went on to say he's sorry for not demanding the video. >> there's no excuse for me to not have demand that video except i wasn't concerned or interested enough to demand it. never crossed my mind. i'm sorry for that. deeply sorry for that. >> a short time later ravens head coach john harbaugh addressed the report. >> this this a water shed momen that organizations will have to present themselves differently to look more trance parent. >> i doept know. it is not something i'm too involved with right now. it's a good question. fair question. we said a week or two ago, good thing is, things come up and we do our best to get better, whether football or life. there's a lot of good people involved in every level and on the outside, good things will
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come out of this. we're going to improve. everybody's going to improve. and as a society we got a lot we can improve on, everywhere. so if that's the motivation for all of us, inside out, media, sports, that's a good thing. >> steve was out here and talked about the organization being beaten down for its lack of integrity. does it bother you that people are questioning the ravens way. >> when you're in football you pretty much get used to being under attack when you do your best, people criticize you. it's kind of the nature of what we're in. i don't think it is unusual in this arena. but can't worry about it. you got to try to do what's right and do your best and attack the next day. >> first of all, i think the owner of the baltimore ravens,
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mr. bisciotti, gave a much better press conference than roger goodell did on friday representing the nfl. there's the old saying, coaches coach, players play, owners own. it was nice to see an owner come out and address this entire ordeal. it is late but they are mopping it up as far as the organization is concerned. as far as mr. harbaugh is concerned, he's a football coach, what do you want him to do? engineer society? he's worried about what play he will call on third and short yardage on sunday and get yet another w, because that's what he is paid to do. the front office of every team in the nfl needs to buckle it up when it comes to discipline. discipline is the key. the only way you will change organizations in the league is to start with a whole new set of rules and enforce them. as far as the press conference friday by goodell he is still an
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unguided missile. they know what they want to do but don't know how to do it. joining me now georgetown professor, and also sports writer for yahoo sports. good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> gentleman, where do we go from here? is this going to be a rolling story all season long and we just never get this behind us? your thoughts on what unfolded with the ravens today. >> it is pretty apparent and i agree with you, i think bisciotti was better then goodell. goodell just appeared to be tone-deaf. and just incentinocencinnocenci congoing tragedy to players doing such who id things with no discipline and on the other hand covering their own skin. the reality is it starts at the
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top. if mr. goodell has repeatedly said there is no excuse for ignorance, we much punish the players. the players are saying, why didn't you just let me withdrawal for a while and allow the reigns to be given to someone else. hopefully this puts an end to the problem. but the lives of women and children must count. we must not put the bottom line ahead of the moral bottom line, which is that all human beings are worthy of consideration and respect. in this case it is the beginning but we're far from the end of this. >> i thought it was interesting how the ravens came out within the last hour today and addressed this. they are on the offense. do you believe espn or the ravens? >> the answer is, the truth often lands somewhere in the middle. the ravens came out strongly and
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said these things didn't occur, a very lengthy response. espn however had a investigation on their side. the problem with espn report, when you don't print a document or video or photograph that proves what you are alleging occurred, you get into a he said, she said situation. that's where we stand now. it leaves it up to us on the ow side to determine who has more creedence. i think the answer is in the middle. did the ravens negligent to go after that video, absolutely. it is difficult to combat that at this point. >> how do you think bisciotti did. >> i think he did very well. at the end of the day we want to see another human being on the end of that camera and bisciotti
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came off as very human. he was believable. when you take the situation, did i believe him, the answer is yes, i felt he was coming from the heart and is a very real human being. that being said there's some things lost in translation, certainly some word games, and yes, people protecting themselves, that makes sense especially seeing so much is at stake. i give him a lot of kudos for going up and doing what he did today. >> you say the truth is somewhere in the middle. i think someone is lying. i don't mknow who it is. i think there's two different stories about what has unfolded with ray rice. the ed show is asking vikings fans in minnesota about adrian peterson suspension. >> i'm an adrian fan. he obviously made a big mistake. >> similar to michael vick being
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allowedto come back and learn his lesson. >> years ago i got the belt. we're in different times. >> i think he shouldn't play football. >> let prosecution handle it. >> his personal life is his personal life. >> money. don't let greed drive what's going on. >> i disagree with what he did but i really hope he gets a second chance and will be successful. >> what is your reaction? >> well they expressed the kind of conflicted feeling that many people have. they find it inexcusable what mr. peterson did, even in light of the punishment and spanking and breateating children that i part of the american society and also part in parcel of the black tradition. he has to understand the consequences of what he did.
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i agree he should have a second chance but not before the understanding of you can't go on, there has to be a change and alteration in the entire approach. again the lives and bodies of women and children must count significantly and primarily in not only the national football league but in the culture at large. sports are a magnifying glass held to this particular tragedy but it happens in the broader culture as well. >> there's doctor, a lot of head turning here, people don't want to hear this story. i think that they have their team, they have their heroes and they want it all packaged the way they want to hear it and they are willing to put the problem aside. i don't know how you turn it around. >> you got to say honestly if it could happen to him, it could happen to any of us. and if he is made an example of god bless him but the reality is the tragedy exists and we got to
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states leaving iraq too early and waiting too long to get involved in syria. panetta sat down with cbs news 60 minutes and said that he was in support of arming the syrian rebels at the start of the syrian civil war. >> the real key was, how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control? and my view was to have leverage to do that, we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. panetta says he and other national security advisers unsuccessfully urged president obama to arm the rebels back in 2012. >> i think the president's concern, and i understand it, was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was, you have to begin somewhere. >> panetta's comments echo
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claims made by hillary clinton last month. in an interview with the atlantic, clinton also connected the rise of isis to a lack of u.s. intervention during the syrian uprising. clinton said the failure to help build a credible fighting force by the people who were the originators of the protests against assad, there were islamists, there were secularists, and there was everything in the middle. the failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled. joining me tonight, congressman jim mcdermott of washington. congressman, always a pleasure. good to have you with us. >> good to be here. >> panetta and hillary clinton, are they correct on this? should we have armed the rebels in syria sooner and would it be a different scenario? >> my feeling is the president acted very judiciously and i stand with the president on this. we had a president named george bush who jumped in and without thinking about what he was
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doing, and got in up over his neck in both afghanistan and iraq. and president obama looked at that and said, no, i'm going to think very carefully about what i do. and the questions he raised are the questions that still exist today. exactly who are we arming and how much should we arm them? and where should we do it? are we going to give them just handguns or rifles? are we going to give them machine guns? are we going to give them anti-tank weaponry? when we say we're going to arm the moderate rebels, who are we talking about and what's the end game in all of that? i still think the president is acting in a judicious way. >> what about the vote last week? what did the president get, and where, in your opinion, are we? >> well, i think we got only half a loaf. he got the ability to arm them. i'm not sure how long it's going to last, because it ends shortly into december. so we're going to be back in
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session deciding whether we're going to give him the authorization to put troops on the ground in syria. he says he doesn't want it, but everybody's suggesting that that's what's going to happen. and i think that we have to have that debate. the congress has to debate this issue and give the president the authority. we cannot allow the president to be out there making unilateral decisions, because that's not the way a democracy works. it's of the people. that's where the power comes from. >> so you think that there is going to be a heated debate very soon about troops on the ground. and what is your pulse on that? would you go along with that? >> i personally would be very, very reluctant. we got a situation right now, where the saudis aren't doing anything, the jordanians are terribly pressed by all the refugees in jordan. the turks are pressed by all sorts of people going across the border into turkey. but still the question remains,
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who are those troops that are going to be on the ground, if they're not going to be americans? and i really think that the american people have to be confronted with this and admit that we are committing ourselves. the generals say this is going to be a long war. this isn't going to be over in three months. rumsfeld told us we'd be in and out of iraq in 90 days. what a bunch of nonsense. so no one should think that going into this. >> so finally, congressman, it's going to come down to intel, isn't it? intel will have to play a big part. we have to know who these arms are going into the hands of. do you think we'll ever know that? >> well, i think there's always going to be some measure of judgment that the president -- and this is what -- this is the heavy part of his job. he has to make a decision on imperfect intelligence. he will never know exactly what he's getting into. and i think that's why it's such a tough decision to make, but i don't think it should be done
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recklessly. >> yeah. there are no easy options. >> none. >> congressman jim mcdermott of washington, good to have you with us tonight, sir. thank you. >> that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> good evening and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight in minneapolis. breaking news tonight, a danger to the president. that is what a federal prosecutor said today about white house fence jumper omar gonzalez. an army vet whose family says he suffers from ptsd. this afternoon, he was in federal court, accused of being the first person to ever jump the fence of the white house. and get inside the executive mansion. here is the video from friday night. you can see him running on the white house grounds. there is no
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