good morning, everybody. i'm tamron hall this is "newsnation." we're following breaking news. reaction coming in after president obama just finished addressing the united nations general assembly minutes ago. focussing on the battle against isis. >> the brutality of terrorists in syria and iraq forces us to look into the heart of darkness. we have not confronted forcefully enough the intolerance, sectarianism, and hopelessness that feeds violent extremism in too many part of the globe. we can renew the international system has enabled so much progress or we can allow ourselves to be pulled back by an undertow of instability. we'll use our military might in the campaign of air strikes to roll back isil. we will train and equip forces fighting against these terrorists on the ground, we

will work to cut off their financing and to stop the flow of fighters into and out of the region and already over 40 nations have offered to join this coalition. today i ask the world to join in the effort. >> right now the president is meeting with iraq's new prime minister and in a few hours the president will hold the other major event at the u.n. today. he'll chair a security council summit on foreign terrorist fighters. all amid new u.s. are strikes in syria and iraq. in an interview on "today" susan rice assess the damage done by the first round of u.s. lead air strikes in syria. >> we think the strikes had an impact an important impact. can't exactly quantify it. we have battle damage assessment, which is a rolling assessment of the impact of our strikes. i think the first instance we feel very good about our success. but we'll continue to take a look and we'll be doing more.

>> and joining me now in studio andrea mitchell, the host of andrea mitchell report that follows this hour. thank you for joining us. obviously the president talked about ukraine, iran, the ebola outbreak. what is his message on the isis and the recruitment, andrea of young people who are told this is what islam is it and it means war. the president spoke directly to the young people around the world. >> i thought it was an important part of his piece. the concern about losing the propaganda war. the foreign fighters, it's as much a threat to the organized terror group to our homeland. someone inspired by the horrible ideology. they're seeing on the internet, hearing in some of the schools and in some of these mosques, frankly. and he called out the oil ridge nations who help spew it. some have been in both camps at the same time.

he is trying to appeal to the young people. it's a long and hard stock. on the street, of course, they see bombs falling and they have a big label usa. so where as he said we're at the cross roads of foreign peace today. he was saying the wars are over we're bringing the troops home. it's a different legacy. >> to your point, andreandrea, regarding the president's remarks on the rich companies that seem to play both sides of the fence. that means cutting off the fuel that funds >> some of those countries he's calling out are the five or some of the five who are in this new military coalition. when he talks about a 40-member coalition, that is the people who sign the declaration that john kerry negotiated a couple of weeks ago. it's not 40 countries stepping

up to the plate. saying we're against terrorism. it's an easy thing to say. five countries, five arab countries have agreed and we're four out of the five. we're in the air on that first night of the air strikes. yet at the same time qatar and some of the others are funding what we would consider hate thought and hate speech and hateful terrorist activity. >> also, the president said in his remarks, quote, i would like to speak directly to young people across the muslim world. you come from a great tradition. the dignity of life not murder. those who call you away from this path are betrying this tradition not defending it. the president in a unique position globally that he can deliver this type of message. >> he's trying to say this is not a clash of civilizations. this is us against you. when we speak of muslims, we're speaking about ourselves. we're speaking about the great muslim traditions in the united states. at the same time, he also said

we have problems here at home. he spoke of ferguson and said we have problems we work on them. we heal them, we address them. we have an open society. we can speak about it. in many of the countries they can't. >> yesterday's headline, for a lot of people we heard the pent gron brief that the air campaign will be one that will take years. your contrast to the president's address now and what he said at the last meeting of the u.n. is incredible. >> i think it's going to be the main take away that this president who came to the u.n. a year ago is saying we're getting out of iraq, we're getting out of afghanistan and able to say we stood up a government in iraq. there is a government finally, last couple of days, afghanistan to succeed karzai. at the same time we're getting involved in a war that michael hayden said earlier steady three to five years minimum. there will be boots on the ground. president said they'll be regional boots the regional component the syrian free army doesn't exist yesterdt.

>> thank you so much. thank you. now to the ongoing air strikes as mentioned against isis. u.s. central command said there were five new air strikes overnight. one against isis targets in syria and four in iraq including near the city of irbil that is in northern iraq. that is where nbc news chief bill neely joins us live. tell us about this latest round of air strikes. >> yes, as you say four -- in fact two near where i'm standing near the city of irbil, apparently against isis fighting positions. those were the pentagon's words. of course, no idea on the effectiveness of these strikes or indeed the effectiveness of the 198 air strikes in iraq. that's one area of concern for the pentagon. first of all, there are no boots on the ground. no people who can verify or

assess the damage. you can only do that from drones and surveillance. secondly, there are no clear evidence that isis is actually being moved from its positions. perhaps a mile or two from the mosul dam but no evidence that these air strikes. they are certainly not destroying isis. it would be true to say that maybe isis has been knocked off balance -- >> we've lost our connection to bill neely, so we apologize for that difficulty there with our connection. but we will get you updated on things. more on the terror group few americans have heard of. yesterday the khorasan group, which the u.s. targeted monday night. in the initial round of air strikes. officials said it's lead by a kuwaitty described as a calf dant of the late bin laden. it was in the late strange stag

plot to bomb an american airplane. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much for having me on the program. >> let me get your reaction to the president's address before the u.n. general assembly. particularly focussing in on young people who might be recruited and might be temped to join whether the organization i. they're a tempted by the appeal of hate and destruction. >> and this is actually one of the force projection capabilities of isis. and el noose are a which is the khorasan group. the individuals coming from the middle east, from europe and a couple hundred from the united states and canada are probably the most terrifying or the most difficult challenged that the

west really has. because these people have european and american and canadian passports. they can subvert western security services and security practices pretty easily. they don't need visas and they understand how we work. >> it's interesting my colleague was just on, and the president talked about in his address nations who accumulate wealth through the global economy and siphon funds to those who teach children to tear it down. meaning peace. she highlighted qatar, for example, and the role as an ally for the air strikes. and the complexity down to paying off the organizations millions of dollars in return for hostages or people who have been kidnapped and other concerns of whether or not they are truly aligned with the united states. >> yeah. that's a very difficult challenge for both the united states and for the middle eastern countries. for example, it's been estimated that al qaeda has made up to

$125 million in the last five years from hostages and rans ransoming alone. even though qatar and other countries in the middle east are -- even in europe are willing to pay ransom money, they're actually funding whitingly or unwhitley the terror operations and giving new financial capabilities to isis, to al qaeda franchises throughout the globe. >> you know in the president's remarks he said the ideology of isil or al qaeda will wilt and die if it is consistently exposed, confronted, and refuted in the light of day. those are grand words we would like to embrace. is it realistic. even being exposed in the light of day, do you feel confident -- put it in simplistic terms of win but will there be progress?

>> look, crushing and ideology is one of the most difficult challenges that any country or any society really has. so to put it in sbeft, during world war ii 20 to 25 million soviets died at the hands german army. we have neonazis operating in russia today. almost half the world's neo-n i neo-nazis. these people their grandparents fought the nazis. it makes no sense. the organizations that spew -- talk about these fundamentalists religious ideologies are going to be here for a long time. even though we are going to be able to fight them. both in the war of idea and also on the actual battle field. >> thank you so much for your time. incredible insight on the subject. let me bring in democratic congresswoman loretta sanchez.

she voted last week against arming and training the syrian rebels. one of 71 house democrats to do so. she did vote the final bill funding the government which included the proposal to arm rebels. thank you for your time. at this point on seeing the first two waves of air strikes. do you standby your vote earlier at the end of last week? >> absolutely. i think it two goes to show how complicated the situation. our military around what it is they're going to do. we seem to get more people on the board on the coalition. we wonder where turkey is, for example. the fact that we told assad's government that we're going across is an implicit we'll work with you to get at this threat. but in the long run, is that the best thing to do? i think there are a lot of questions still out there. >> there are. i want to play a moment from last week's house armed services

committee hearing that caught a lot of attention particularly to the point of these questions you still have. let's play it, please. >> i've been through this. i saw the coalition in iraq and we used to chuckle at each other seeing the countries with one person. i don't know training dogs? maybe a bomb expert. but coalition of 40, who, what, how much, which are the combat troops, how are they going to get there? i would like to know. >> we learned some of the things, for example, you pointed out. we know five arab nations and the first time nation willing to say they participated in the air strikes while the u.s. lead most of the air strikes as revealed as we know by the pentagon for the first time we're hearing arab nations who committed their air force to the strikes >>well, listen, air strikes alone is not going are not going get the job done.

my question is not you fly a plane with us. my question is will you go into battle against isis? will you help us on the ground? if in fact what the president says, which is he wants no boots on the ground, even though, again, remember special forces are already there. we have boots on the ground. if we're not going to send in a large contingent of our army, for example, then who will do that job? that's what i would like to know. an airplane, a dog trainer, i mean, yes, that's part of the coalition and, you know, secretary kerry said those that can do will do. but we need the real commitment. and i have not seen that yet. >> to your point, though. some might interpret you minimizing, for example, uae and admitting its role in the air strikes yesterday while it is not boots on the ground there were these who said that you would not get arab nations to

not even commit to that. >> look, i'm happy that the president and his administration is working hard to build the coalition. i don't want to diminish that role. it's not just what they do in battle with us to eliminate isis. it's what they will commit to after wards to reconstruct. remember, while we continue to look at syria, because there's this displacement, refugees, it's really wreaking havoc on the countries nearby. isis has been despicable, but the reality is, first and foremost, this is something about stabilizing iraq. one of the reasons we didn't get that done after 12 years there is that the neighboring nations weren't fully committed to helping us stabilize that country. >> you may have been privvy to the information and we were not. but the threat of khorasan is

said to be a part of the timing that this organization an al qaeda spin-off was prepared and willing to strike u.s. airliners and perhaps even u.s. citizens and those in europe. that was part of the timing here. with that information now public, do you, at all, believe that perhaps this the arming and training of those forces is necessary? i know you standby your vote, but again, factoring in the new information on the threat of khorasan? >> we still don't know who we're going to arm. we still don't know we haven't vetted, we don't know who the moderates are. some say that will take three to six months. some say they will not be fully armed and ready to go for six to 12 months. my question is is this going to be an air campaign that lasts for a year before we see the true boots on the ground go after siisis?

there are a lot of questions. until i get the right answers i'm not committing. i would not commit our country to put weapons in people's arms in that manner. >> thank you so much, congresswoman, fur your time. and the questions many people are asking the same things today. our coverage continues of the air strikes in iraq and syria. new reaction to the president's comments we heard at the u.n. i'll talk live with former u.s. ambassador. also ahead. >> we had sufficient probable cause to seek an arrest warrant charging him with a class two felony of abduction with the intent to defile. >> the last person seen with a missing university of virginia student has been formally charged. but where is he? we have a live report coming up next. and the president is facing criticism for this so-called latte salute. some are calling it disrespectful. but this is not the first time people have criticized a so-called awkward salute.

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welcome back. police have now filed charges in the disappear of missing uva student hannah graham. 32-year-old jesse matthew is charged with abducting graham. local, state, and federal authorities are still searching for him. craig melvin has the latest. >> hey, tamron. charlottesville police say this morning they know who is responsible for hannah graham's disappearance, but they still don't know where he is. they also don't know where the missing 18-year-old uva student

is either. there's a search, a manhunt, and lots of unanswered questions. >> we appeared before magistrate late this afternoon, very late this afternoon, and obtained an arrest warrant. >> 32-year-old jesse matthew, the man police say last seen with hannah graham is charged with her experiendisappearance. in other words, intent to commit some type of sexual assault according to virginia law. nbc learned matthew was a volunteer football coach at the private school in charlottesville. the school's headmaster sent the letter to parents saying they put matthew through the normal background process and checked multiple references. he played football at nearby liberty university from 20twoouo 2002. they talked to matthew briefly saturday when he went to the police station, asked for a

lawyer, and left before answering any questions. police maintain at that point they did not have enough information to arrest the uva medical center patient technician. now local, state, and federal officials are involved in an all-out manhunt. >> the authorities will be looking at his cell phone records, his computer records, his bank records. they'll be talking to relatives. there are a lot of electronic fingerprints that people leave that can be a great aid to helping to locate them. in this case, get this guy in custody. >> still, several questions remain. like, what evidence led police to matthew? do police suspect it was a crime of opportunity or pre-planned? do they think he could be connected to other crimes in the area? in tuesday's brief news conference, the police chief answered one question. are they still looking for hannah? >> we absolutely are continuing our search for hannah. even as we speak.

we will continue our search for hannah. >> hannah graham has been missing for 12 days now. police say jesse matthew has a number of friends and associates in neighboring states. they're not sure if he's still in the area. meanwhile, though, there's a published newspaper report this morning that matthew does have an attorney. that's the latest from charlottesville, virginia. back to you. up next what the secret service is saying about a report that claims five layers of security failed when the fence jumper entered the white house. and the new security barrier that has been placed in front of the white house. new video is emerging of the suspect who is wanted in the ambush killing of a pennsylvania state trooper as police say the manhunt is closing in. plus, a new night of unrest erupts in ferguson, missouri after a memorial to michael brown goes up in flames. it's one of the stories we're following around the "newsnation."

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welcome back. the secret service pushing back against a report that say is multiple ringing of protection completely failed allowing an intruder to make it over the white house fence and through the door. according to the washington post, the accused jumper omar gonzalez made it past at least five security rings friday before entering the executive mansion. starting with a plain clothes surveillance team outside, the fence -- in a guard booth on the north lawn. an attack dog, a s.w.a.t. team, and a guard at the front door. now the secret service is still reviewing exactly what happened, but a spokesperson tells nbc news, quote, any conversation prior to the completion of the review is speculation or merely erroneous judgments provided by anonymous sources who are not in a position to know all the

facts. kristen welker joins me now from outside the white house. of course, the washington post report there's a pushback from secret service. how long does the nvgts take? >> it could take up to 30 days. we know that something went wrong here on friday night. but the question is, what specifically? we know typically when someone jumps over the fence you see the attack dogs get sent out. that didn't happen on friday, for example. that's one of the things investigators are looking into. law enforcement officials say it's too soon to know exactly what happened. that's why you're getting the push back from the secret service. they say we don't know all the details yet. we're learning more about the interactions of the secret service had with the suspect omar gonzalez. i can tell you according to one law enforcement official after he was arrested in virginia in july he was found with a

carbohydra of weapons. they put him in the data base. when he was taken into custody in august, that's when he was walking near the white house and he was found with a hatchet in his waistband, those officials who stopped him did run a background check. realized hefs he was in the secret service system. they interviewed him. searched had is car. in both occasions the secret service said they didn't have enough information to detain him and keep him in custody. that investigation does continue. one more point, there's a new barrier outside on pennsylvania avenue. >> yeah. and the new bumper zone. i want to go back to the washington post report. the lines of defense it claims were breached. plains clothes surveillance team. never noticed. officer in the north lawn guard booth couldn't stop him.

dog was not released. a guard at the front door was not near the entrance when he came through. again, the secret service saying these are anonymous sources but the solution at least while it's pending is what you just referred to. which is a little three foot high gate with plastic ties to connect the interlocking sections. >> that's right. it almost looks like a bike rack. the idea behind it, of course, is to provide one more line of defense in this sense that if you're going to jump over that fence, it's not very high. anyone could. at least that would be an initial red flag for the officers who are patrolling pennsylvania avenue. so in other words, if someone were to jump over the initial fence, it would give officers just a few more seconds of reaction time to try to stop someone before they try to climb over the fence that we have here. which is about eight feet, it looks like, tamron.

we have sort of estimated that. that's the idea there. but there are a lot of discussions going on behind the scenes about what needs to be done. there's broad agreement there needs to be a change and one of the key things they're considering would be to set up check points blocks away from the white house. it would be up precedented, tamron. right now people can get pretty close even with the buffer zone. they can get pretty close to the white house. you see thousands of them every day taking pictures. so that would certainly be a significant change here. and remember cars used to be allowed to drive here along pennsylvania avenue. that was closed off after the oklahoma city bombing. vehicular city closed off. that was the last time we saw a significant change to security a long pennsylvania avenue. this they wind upsetting up the security gates locks away, that would be a significant change. >> all right. thank you so much. developing now we'll have more on the u.s.-lead air strikes in iraq and syria. and the president's comments just this morning at the u.n.

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the country is the arab and muslim world must focus on the extraordinary potential of their people. especially the youth. and here i would like to speak directly to young people across the muslim world. you come from a great tradition that stands for education not ignorance. innovation not destruction. >> and we continue to follow developing news and reaction to president obama's speech at the u.n. general assembly last hour. which he laid the case for rallying the world in particularly muslim countries in the fight against isis and other extremist groups. this afternoon, the president is

set to attend meetings with u.n. secretary general. mark ginsburg is joining me now. mr. ambassador, thank you for your time. let's start with the president's direct appeal to the young people in these arab countries who are still being pulled in. now even more so on social media to these organizations of terror. >> the network of terror that the sp-- harkins back to the speech in cairo in june of 2009. there's no doubt the people being recruited to isis were the alphabet soup of the network of death he referred to. it's almost as if you had to coin a phrase al qaeda 2.0. there are franchises if al qaeda and extremist groups kbrp has it happened after 9/11? 11 years later after all the efforts and initiative. it's largely because of one thing.

there's no adequate progress in the arab world in reform. there's no democracy. most of what has taken place is an june hooefl. it's almost as if there's a great arab report. he call it is the barbarians have taken over in the arab world. >> after the arab spring in particular there were people who had high hopes for egypt, forly -- libya and a transformation. you hear maybe democracy isn't for everyone. maybe there are misstep ss. >> it's so simplistic to talk about democracy. there's no institutional check and balances in the system. it's either been autocrats or the islamic parties that have taken control. there has never been in any arab state the rise of a really true

consensus pluralistic among democratic party. that's the party. and i'm talking about small d. not big d. >> with that being the case when you look at, you know, i say the next i don't know 20 to 30 years, what do you see as a possible breaking point? even a glimmer of a breaking point. especially when you see richard i thiengel on the ground. young men from minnesota, you know, parts of the u.k. who are joining forces with isis. >> some is opportunitistic. many don't know anything about islam. i don't want to overdramatize the situation. there's vast swaths, huge hundreds of millions of arabs that want a better life. they're not joining the extremist groups. the problem is there is always the appeal to the radical ideology of islamic extremists. there's no pope. there's no one to say knock it off. there's no moderation.

in the ab ses of filling the vacuum of true leaders, who people can rally around. young political learn leadders entrepreneurs they're being gravitated toward the islamicstreislam ii ii iic extremi extremists. it goes baseball to the fundamental problem in the arab world there are now true inspirational leader. >> the president call order the leaders who benefit from the global economy but then still provide funds to these terror organizations. >> he specifically referring to countries like saudi arabia and qatar where they want to have the cake and eat it. if. >> we align ourselves with the countries. >> we're stuck in a situation where the government say they're not providing the funding then the leaders of the countries look behind and sayway why you want to send money back? go ahead. it's got to stop. we have to put the screws on qatar in particular.

they joined db it's interesting. georg qatar joined the air force. they will tell you they're probably the number one funding mechanism for al qaeda operatives and the khorasan in syria. remember, tamron, they didn't join the attacks and the other al qaeda fronts. they only were willing to attack isis. because they're funding the other groups. that's unacceptable. >> thank you very much for your time, ambassador. glmptt coming up the early warning signs of violence for a man wanted for killing a pennsylvania state trooper. new video is emerging of the suspect. and the film makers behind the video are talking about it. the update on the massive manhunt that is still underway. a body at rest tends to stay at rest...

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around the world. and msnbc is partnering with the global citizen movement, which aims to end poverty by 2030. one of the areas the festival is trying to bring attention to, education to women and girls. and our own richard lui went to india. and this is what he uncovered. >> it can take two hours to get to a computer. and the computer charges a day's wage. a luxury her family only allows once a month. nevertheless, this internet cafe does make a difference. >> it is important. because we do all the works in the computers and computers. we can present our presentations. >> it was that way, i would say, but it's now, getting lesser and lesser. >> executive director of plan international india on the digital gender gap. >> when computers came and internet came, boys had access. you know, it's the man in the

family who first had laptops and computers. >> her organization started a digital literacy program at this school. girls now use a computer every day. just like the boys do. >> it is a new concept. even -- this concept is not introduced. so i feel proud. >> teaching computer classes also helps female teachers gain new skills and job marketability. women need it. as girls become adults, few will have access to the internet, 1 for every 4 men in india according to icrw. the likelihood they'll work as adults, about the same. she works on programs to help girls in over 25 countries. >> we see the situation in india. we think it's unique. but the reality is. this is a problem common all over the world. the future of girls are impacted by the situation. >> but not for dipika and her class mates. instead of energy spent getting to internet cafes, it's energy

spent on dreams. changing the landscape, ngos creating awareness. >> $1 i will use to really reach out and create access. >> and parents like dipika's father. he can't speak english, but he's clear, he's proud of his daughter learning computer skills and how she does so much including caring for her two brothers and family. >> when asked which of his kids he thought would go farthest in life. >> my daughter. >> the only english words he used the entire day. >> and richard joins us via skype. india's known for its technology, is this helping to combat the problem? are we seeing success with this? >> you know, we look at technology and what we were just talking about with the father of dipika. it's interesting because here in india, one might think as has been said that they're very

advanced in technology. so why would this problem exist here? you know, our solutions working with large organizations that we're both very familiar with, intel and as well microsoft. and ha they're trying to do is reduce that digital gender gap. and they're finding that by reaching out and going and activating computers in places like africa, for instance, just by putting out 1 million computers, they're able to reduce that gap by 50%. and those solutions that are being used in, you know, business along with governments is now being used in other countries around the world, including the united states. and it's happening right here in india. >> well, outstanding reporting, richard, thank you very much for your time. and by the way, msnbc is your exclusive home of the third annual global citizen festival. live coverage begins this saturday starting at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. and i will be on nbc at 9:00 eastern time for a one-hour

special tied in to the festival, as well. so we'll see you on both of our platforms. developing now, an ohio grand jury has just decided it will not indict the officers involved in the fatal shooting of a man holding a pellet gun inside a walmart. john crawford iii is holding an air rifle his family said he'd taken off the shelf in the store in beaver creek. on august 5th. police say crawford did not obey officers' commands to put down that weapon. but as we've just learned, an ohio grand jury has just decided it will not indict the officers who mistakenly killed a man, that man holding the toy rifle inside a walmart. time now for our "news nation" gut check. we've heard a lot about this on social media today. critics are taking to social media after the white house posted this instagram video showing the commander in chief saluting marines with a cup in his hand as he exited marine one. he'd just landed in new york.

many feel the salute was way too casual for their tastes. one tweet read, president obama's salute was incredibly disrespectful to the marines. no way to justify that one. well, the twitter storm spawned its own hash tag latte salute even though the president is known more as a tea drinker. but the tradition of saluting officers when boarding and exiting marine one, well, it's been around for decades, dating back, actually, to ronald reagan. and many people today are pointing out that president george w. bush often saluted officers while holding his dog barney, including in this awkward salute in 2001. so -- we're not asking you to pick presidents here. here's how we're going to do this. what does your gut tell you? president bush held his dog during the salute and now president obama seen with this cup. is it a sign of disrespect when you look at both of those cases? again, not asking if you're republican, democrat, what do you think of this moment? go to newsnation.msnbc.com to

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