yes, with the add complication of the arab awakening, and the sunni attentions in the region which really weren't dominant in the period after 9/11 but since 2011 really have been. >> these are dark and difficult days, thank you all for joining me. that is all for now. i will see you tomorrow at 4:00 eastern. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work. >> can be no reasoning with this brand of evil. >> it's confirmed two air strikes hit overnight against isis targets. >> if we're going to engage in mission we got to do it right or not do it. >> you want something you work for it.

>> the sewerest way to tear annie is giving the president unfettered war power. >> in the last decade or so we seem to be willing to do that with great liber ality. >> congress shouldn't be allowing it to happen. >> very sick idea for our country. >> the future belongs to not those who destroy. at this hour, american jets are in syrian airspace. military officials have said u.s. and arab partners are taking part in ongoing air strikes againin syria at this h. this afternoon president obama chaired a special meeting of the u.n. security council, the only american president to ever do so, the security council passed

an anti terror resolution to compel countries to prevent and suppress the recruitment and travel of terrorists to foreign conflict areas. president obama stressed it's importance. >> this resolution will share more information about the travel and activities of foreign terrorist fighters and it makes clear that respecting human rights, fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law is not many optional, it is an essential part of successful counter terrorism efforts. indeed history many teaches us it the failure to uphold these rights can actually fuel violent extremism. >> the president not getting help from congress, he's just going to the u.n. to get what he wants. it comes at a perfect time.

today a algeria group beheaded a tourist on sunday. >> today the people of the world have been horrified by another brutal murder, by terrorists in algeria. president francois hollande we stand with you and the french people as you grief your loss and you stand against terror. >> acts like this is why an international coalition is hell-bent on destroying isis. the ramped up effort on terror is in full swring today. is in full swing today. earlier today president's main focus is to rally global support to fight isis and extremist

groups. >> the brute brooality of syrias us to look at this brand of evil, only language understood by killers like this is the language of force. so the united states of america will work with a broad coalition to dismantle this network of death. >> the president made clear we are going after criminals, not muslims. that's why we are bring gt the fight to syria. president obama told the general assembly, problems in our global society contribute to extremism. >> and we have not confronted forcefully enough the intolerance, secretaryianism and hopelessness that feeds violent extremism on too many parts of the globe. counter terrorism strategy can't

success in places. >> the president had a passionate mess ang fge for you people in the muslim world. >> here i would like to speak directly to young people across the muslim world. you come from a great tradition that stands for education, not ignorance. innovation, not destruction. the dignity of life, not murder. those who call you away from this path are betraying this tradition, not defending it. >> the president made the case in order to fix terrorism in the long term, deep rooted problems have to be addressed. meanwhile president obama made clear isis can expect the full force of american air power.

>> we will use our military might to role back isil, we will train and equip forces fighting on the ground. we will work to cut off their financing and stop the flow of fighters into and out of the region and already over 40 nations have offered to join this coltitialition, those who continue to fight for a hateful fight will find they are not alone. we will fight for those not those who destroy. >> five new confirmed strikes took place tuesday and wednesday carried out strikes in syria and iraq. two strikes west of baghdad destroyed armed vehicles and a weapons cache, fifth strike in

syria. today sent con conducted 198 air strikes against isis in iraq and 20 in syria. after 200 air strikes, americans may be wondering, how long will this take. some experts are predicting it could take some time. >> even if this goes swimmingly, three to five as least. >> why so long. >> because of the nature of the war. the nate ire of the target and frankly the nature of our strategy. >> with this level of military action a lot of lawmakers question whether the president of the united states has the legal power to act. senator kaine saying, in this instance,

. >> now, the cheney-war doctrine is a 13--year-old law passed after 9/11. to go to it directly, the use of force states you can make the legal case that the president's legal authority to attack isis under this law is shaky at best. last night on this program it was speculated faulty intelligence could have been used to make congress happy to give the stamp of approval. >> i would like to see the

intelligence we went on. i've seen a lot of intelligence in my 40 years in government and a lot of it i didn't trust. i would suspect we threw khorasan and their plans to attack against the homeland in there to appease the congress more so than the intelligence shows that. that disturbs me. when i see people doing what we did in my administration with regard to iraq's wmd, that disturbs me. >> under the act only congress can declare war. question. is this a new war or a big counter terrorism exercise. the loophole has american people divided whether the president is within legal authority to wage a long-term air campaign in iraq and syria. clearly lawmakers must not think it is a crisis. congress won't be in session until after the election. i want to no what you think. should the president have asked congress for authorization for

military action in syria? text a for yes, text b for no to 67622. leave a comment on our blog at msnbc.com. for more let me bring in senator ba barbara boxer, good to have you with us tonight. this is almost round the clock operations in syria. and moments ago it is reported that the new air strikes will target oil facilities controlled by isis. what's your reaction? and is this what your expectation was? >> my reaction is the president is taking the fight to isil and i'm glad hee's doing is it. and the age old debate will go on. i think it is very important we write a resolution. i'm working with my chairman

menendez to do just that because it will come out of our farm relations committee. if your house was on fire, you and your wife were home, you run out of the zone side, get the hose, put out the fire, you wouldn't discuss your insurance policy and how much it covers. the loss that you're going to anticipate. you'll do that later. it's very important. but i respect those who are, i think saying, the president should do nothing, but i couldn't disagree more than i do. they are wrong. this is a threat. my goodness, i've seen intelligence, yes. but the american people have seen the videos of the beheading of two innocent american freelance journalists. so we know what we're up against. >> okay. so, you want a new resolution, and the senate foreign relations committee is working on that.

>> yes we are. >> all right. are you okay with the president waging a multi-year air campaign in this counter terrorism effort alone or is this a new war? >> i look at as counter terrorism act and i voted for that resolution back in '01. there were two resolutions, one go after al qaeda and any affiliate, isil is an affiliate, this new group is an affiliate, and the other was boots on the ground, war in iraq, i voted against that. the one the president is relying on is the one i voted for. would i like to see it looked at again and refined, of course i do. but it seems to me to get off into some kind of debate while we are under threat, and we are. let's be clear about that. and you know, i said to john kerry when he came before our committee you know, he said we

would love to have a resolution, i said i agree with you but knowing how thing goes here, you can't even pass the resolution saying happy mother's day without a big fight, without a philibuster, without politics. so i said i hope you will move forward to protect the american people. you know, that is in the constitution, that the president has that right and he is doing it. and i just wonder sometimes about my friends in the congress who say, look at me, look at me, i'm more important, and let's, you know, focus it back on the congress. we have a war resolution that talks about going after terrorists, we are working on another one. and in the meantime, the president has set forth a strategy, a new paradigm, he talked about in his speech, which i thought was brilliant. one, we're not going to allow a safe haven for terrorists who threaten us and the world. but we're not going to occupy land any more.

and we're going to do it with the world. good for him. and good for us if we back him. and if we don't back him, i think that would be dangerous for the american people. >> senator, if you're okay with the resolution and law that passed after 9/11, why do you need a new one? >> well i think the president has said also, it's eleven years old, approximately, we got to take a look at this. and we can make it better. but what i am saying is, while we're working on a new resolution, i don't think the commander in chief can sit back while we have an off-shoot of al qaeda planning to take down our aircraft. you can just imagine all of the president's enemies saying, oh, my god he sat back and waited for them to write a resolution and they went after one of our planes.

you know, the president is doing it right. he's using the authority he has. i think he's on strong ground to use it. he's speaking from the congress, new authority, and i believe he is doing it the right way. he's not putting american boots on the ground. and by the way, you asked a good question, what would i like to put in the new resolution. i would like to take the president's strategy and put it into the resolution, we will not allow safe havens for terrorists to threaten us but we won't put our combat boots on the ground. we will do this with the world, that's the kind of thing i'd like to shape. >> senator, i appreciate how candid you are in all of this, and on point. i agree. i think there's no easy options for the president here. >> no. >> unfortunately there will be ino se oinnocent people who are

going to be killed. how do we know that won't come back and bite the united states or any coalition in the opposition rendering judgment or inflaming the middle east. i thought the president's speech today was very important. it was a generational pitch to young people explaining to the muslim world, the younger demographic, that this is not who we are. we're going after criminals, not the muslim faith. but when innocent people get killed are you nervous about that. >> of course. we're all nervous about that. but that's why with what the president is doing for the first time in the arab nations, the sunni nations are standing with us on this. because we can't sit idly by when this threat moves ahead. it is tragic when you have any collateral damage. that's why we try so hard to pinpoint what wree're doing.

we know the terrorists will hide among the populous, yes it is very dangerous. that's why you need the whole world to take a stand against terrorism. i want to say this, i watch the president and read his speech, every line of it, i hope all americans will read that speech. it just shows that the world has changed and we got to look at it in a very different way and the united states needs partners and that's what this president stands for. and i think, it did take him time to come up with this strategy but i see it as a long-term strategy. >> okay. senator barbara boxer, great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time so much. thanks so much. we will obviously come back to you for your opinion. joining us now former united states assistant secretary of state for public affairs. bj, the president goes to and chairs the u.n. security council

today, what impact do you think this will have. if he's not going to get cooperation from congress, they are out until after the election, he didn't have too many other kopoptions how import do you think this binding resolution is. >> it is very important. more countries recognize violent political extremism is a threat to them and to the united states. we still have work to do. military action as we are seeing has a role to play as we were just talking with senator boxer. ultimately, this is a conflict within islam, are the decisions made by islamic communities around the world, they have to determine and reject the vision like groups advance. the challenge for the united states, the west and other

country ies is to try to cut of funding on one hand, very difficult since the islamic state for the moment is self-funding, and also try to prevent isis from attracting more recruits from around the world. >> what about putin. he's against air strikes in syria. so how is the state department going to handle any kind of relations with russia at this point? >> well, the united states is trying to cooperate with russia where it can. we do have overlapping interests, fighting terrorism is one of those areas. i think putin is all for combatting the islamic state. we disagree over the role of bashar al assad in that. putin wants to protect him. the united states wants to see someone else leading a much different syria. russia and the us are cooperating on the current

iranian negotiations. so you cooperate where you can and manage profound differences that do exist, obviously over ukraine which the president spoke about today as well. >> thanks so much for your time tonight. coming up, nuclear ambitions, iran links nuclear talks with the west's fight against islamic terrorists. plus we have news about the leader of khorasan. keep it here on "now." son picks? keep it here on "the ed show." i hope he's saving. keep it here on "the ed show." . who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. whether you're just starting your 401(k) or you are ready for retirement, we'll help you get there.

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we are learning more about the group and their plan to take down passengers plans with undetectible explosives. >> for months the u.s. has been nervously watching as the khorasan group developed a plan to smuggle explosives on passenger plans. the only public candidate came this summer, new security rules requiring passengers to show their carry electronic devices would power on. special attention was paid to laptop computers because of intelligence that said the group was testing a bomb design in laptops. information about that was closely guarded. >> i've known about it for several months. it was top secret and classified. we were not allowed to talk about it publicly. >> officials don't believe a specific air flight or country

has been chosen but the concern about the potential threat was very real. >> it was very possible they could have done this, i'm sure that's why the united states would intervene now because much better to catch it in the planning stages. >> as for the terrorist group isis, they worry the groups split propaganda could bring about noerng another beheading. >> we have to spent a lot of time to interrupt that, find ways to keep them from spreading the hatred and venom they have become so known for and the violence they celebrate and embrace. >> the department of homeland security and fbi have sent intelligence reports to local law enforcement officials to be on the alert for acts of retaliation in response to recent air strikes. the department of homeland security has not raised the countries threat level. i will bring in former assistant

secretary of defense and the program director for the new america foundation. i bet many americans are probably wondering tonight why wasn't the threat level raised, and, do the american people deserve to know this kind of information, and threat, and potential harm is out there. lawrence your thoughts on that. >> well they should have been told that they have this group in syria with about a hundred people plotting attacks in the united states and western world. the key thing is they did share it with homeland security, so they were on the watch for it. but i think most americans were dumb founded when they were attacked while we were theoretically going after isil, not coming after other countries. >> heather how much of a threat is khorasan to the united states in your opinion? >> well, ed, we're only starting to learn and it seems clear that

on the one hand they aspire to be a big threat. they have the most talented al qaeda alumni, if you will, going in syria. on the other hand it seems clear the reason the threat level wasn't raised is that washington was confident it could deal with them before they posed an actual threat to any actual americans. so should you change how you live your life? no, absolutely not. >> well, if the report is correct that the head of khorasan has been killed in an air strike, and if the group is small, is this just a bunch of hood that's know how to hurt people or is it a real credible threat to the united states. i'm almost somewhat confused to what we're up against here. >> it could be a threat. but it is not just rutters, the

khorasan group them self lz said he was kills. we got bin laden. didn't get rid offal quad. others will come up. these are people with a lot of experience in pakistan, afghanistan, and iraq. they're not a bunch of amateurs. but i don't think they are anywhere near being an imminent threat that you need to worry about. i think if they were we wouldn't have waited until now. i think the fact we were going after isil they decided let's go after this group as well. >> how good is our intelligence, hear heather in your estimation. if we have known about this for months and we've already killed the head of khorasan, if that's correct, this would be labelled pretty damn good progress so far wouldn't it. >> on one hand it was pretty damn good progress on this

particular group but as larry said, because you have folks popping up and you will continue to have, you will never have zero people who want to hurt the u.s., who want to hurt americans. so the question is always not where is our intelligence strong but where is it weak. what are we missing. if you think back to 9/11 what dots are we not putting together. people should feel good that we understand this. but remember we missed isis altogether so there's no cause for complacentancy, which is different from panic. no cause for panic either. >> how important, heather, was today's message from the president to the u.n. and this binding resolution? does it have teeth? >> so the president's message at the u.n. today has two parts that are very important, one is recognizing it can't just be the u.s., and second it can't just be bombs. like i said, the long-term

solution is decreasing as much as possible the number of people who take it into their head that's this kind of extremist violence is a good thing to do with their lives and number two making it more difficult for them to execute any plan they have. so however good they are, we are better. and bringing the rest of the world along on that and signaling as you said before, that the u.s. is not at war with islam. this is not about muslims. we understand muslims are the biggest victims here. they are under threat day to day in a way americans absolutely are not. that's the key message today. >> what did you think of the president's message, it was almost an explanation to younger people in the middle east that you can still have hope, that we're not bombing you, that's we're going after criminals. i think president obama, one of his biggest is strengths is his ability to persuade and bring

people along. the fact he chaired that u.n. council meeting, put it perspective. >> i think you saw obama at his best in his campaign of hope and change when he talked to the young people in the arab and muslim world. and he talked about, you know, what your religion stands for, what these people do. you're a religion of peace not killers. i thought that was the most effective thing. because in the long-term this struggle within the muslim world and other parts of the world will only be won when young people don't keep getting attracted to this. the problem you have with isil is you keep getting people from all over the world coming to join them. >> desperate people do desperate things, no doubt. great to have you both with us tonight. i appreciate your time.

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in the shadow of world leaders gather at the u.n. general assembly and talks of defeat isis, iran is negotiating with six world powers for a long term agreement potentially ending sanctions from tehran in exchange for curbs on its nuclear program. here's what secretary kerry said after the meeting. >> this is a fight for the region. every country in the region is deeply threatened by this.

including iran, lebanon, including all of the neighborhood. it is absolutely fair and appropriate for the world to expect that that region will fight for itself. >> iranian officials said teran will be ready to work with western powers to stop islamic militants but the country wants enrich enriched uranium, which is the material for bombs, but they deny it. they reportedly have more than 19,000 centrifuges, around 10,000 of those are operational. they would like to limit the number under a long-term agreement. they propose they reloose it from 189,09,000 to 1500.

to lift the sanctions. joining me tonight president of a global security foundation. and also with us columnist for foreign policy. center at international cooperation. great to have you with us. joe, you recently visiting with the president. >> i had dinner with the president last night in new york. there was about 25 of us, former officials, a very candid discussion. we were struck by many his pragmaticism, they want to ensure iran only

uses technology for peaceful purposes. let's put in place a vigorous regime so we can catch any break out if there is one and let's use a deal on the nuclear technology as a stepping stone to cooperation on other vital issues. there are bigger challenges in the region from a year ago. i think both presidents want to make a deal. >> but aren't they using the situation right now to their advantage. how do we know we can trust them. >> well, it's a mutual pressure. yes we want iran's cooperation in fighting isis. you want boots on the ground, the revolutionary guard are boots on the ground, they are fighting isis in iraq. but iran is threatened by isis. they need our help. they don't have the kind of air power you have seen in the last couple days. so these developments are pushing the two nations together

towards cooperations. there is a deal to be reached. where is the magic figure, i don't believe plumbing will come in a way of a deal to stop iran's nuclear program. >> how much of a gamble is this going down the road to possibly lifting sanctions when obviously israel doesn't want the united states to alienate the israeli or to jeopardize. will it make it more unstable. >> i couldn't agree more than i do with joe, which is that both leaders are clearly, deeply invested in getting a solution to this problem. if it were left to the two of them, we probably would have already had a solution, certainly before the new due date of november 24th. each one though of course is pulled by various lobbies and pressures of people who don't want to have this deal.

so i think the really tough question is going to be not only on the american side, yes, you're absolutely right, certainly the israelis are extremely nervous about this. as see a great deal of capit ooh lags. the iranians are subject to the exact same pressures. i think what we're hearing in recent weeks is on the side of iranian hard line there's a belief that the american need for cooperation allows them to cut a better deal. that puts him under pressure because the deal he wants looks bad to them. >> well it's more complicated by the hour. the complexity of this issue with the iranians and the negotiations. i mean, this is the most movement we've seen. it's an opportunistic move, i think, on the part of the iranians, what have they done in the last 30 years that would lend us to believe, joe, let me

ask you, lend us to believe all of a sudden they can be honest. >> that's a question, you're right. it's a genuine gamble. first of all, the iranians have tremendous national interest in solving this problem. iran sees itself as a great world power and great world civilization and have humbled themselves by dedication to a nuclear program with devastating effects, they want to get out of that. at the same time, let me say a second thing, a, they want to get out of that, and b, this president is a different kind of person. one he is really dedicated to this and two, he has influence with the establishment. he is more able to drive a bargain. >> yeah. joe, but in the middle of all of this, here you have him questioning the legality of whether the united states should

be hitting syria or not. >> yes, as have some of the guests on your program. when he talks about this he's not pointing the finger of blame, this is not the former leader attacking the united states rksz th, this is a leade with serious differences with the u.s. approach. we are seeing u.s. iran negotiations start to normalize. >> all right. great to have you gentleman with us on the "the ed show." still ahead, students take a stand. you're watching "the ed show." stay with us. we're right back. you know what my business philosophy is, reynolds?

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comcast business built for business. welcome back to "the ed show." this is the story for folks who take a shower after work. a conservative led school board is suburban denver wants to rewrite history. the board scrubbing educational materials that encourage or condone civil disorder. on tuesday, hundreds of students organized to show the board exactly what civil disobedience looks like. students from at least seven jefferson county high schools took part in walk-out protests over proposed changes to the way advanced placement history is taught in the classroom. remember julie williams said the current curriculum has an emphasis on race, gender, class, ethnicity, grievance and american bashing. this is just the latest in a series of protests against the board.

since three conservative newcomers took office in november. on friday after the board approved a new system tying teacher raises to evaluations, teachers union members called in sick, forcing two high school to close. the group's attempts to rewrite history and strong arm the teacher's union has gotten them one fan. the koch family funneled for prosperity. in april, they called the election an exciting and hopeful moment for the county and the school district. folks, this should serve as a reminder that every election counts. the county school board election might not sound exciting but it has very real consequences for future generations. joining me now, michelle patterson. she is the president of the jefferson county p.t.a. good to have you with us. tell us, your son was a part of this. and what do you think really motivated these students to

gather the way they did on social media and stage this massive walkout and protest. >> i think it was a combination of things. i think the kids are seeing poor treatment of their teachers, and i think when the children learned about the censorship effort of the new school board, i think they decided that maybe they had had enough. and that they wanted to speak out for what they believe is right. >> what position does this put the board in right now? these are elected officials. >> well, the conservative majority, they're in charge. so they can make whatever decision they like. but i think what has been missing from a lot of press reports is that this is not just about a.p. history. this committee would have the

ability to look at all curriculum at any grade level and present it to the board, present to the board anything they find objectionable. and then the board would have the chance to look at their objections and take potential action. so it really opens the door wide to censorship. and the pta is definitely opposed to that. >> so this is an ideological push for education by conservative groups. the kids are recognizing that they walk out. what is the next move? >> well, we're just going to have to wait and see what this board does. we really don't know. we'll keep putting out information and we will keep fighting for what we believe is right for our children. >> all right. michelle patterson, i appreciate your time. we'll follow the story.

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