tv Lockup MSNBC September 28, 2014 2:00am-3:01am PDT
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♪ jacked up. >> a game of monopoly leads to a brawl that deputies need to sort out. >> did the light-skinned guy hit the black guy first? or the darker guy hit the light-skinned guy first? >> i couldn't tell who started what. >> the biggest woman in the jail works to shed the pounds. >> instead of eating six sandwich, i eat two. i think every part of my body
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has been used sexually at least once. >> and -- >> he called me a teradactyl, all type of [ bleep ]. >> a bullied inmate is pushed to the breaking point. >> the way you acted, we're not going to have that in our facility. >> why is all this coming at me? ♪ ♪ in recent years, the community surrounding washington, d.c., like those in fairfax county, virginia, have become some of the wealthiest and fastest growing in the nation due in part to low crime rates. >> we do not have the same amount of serious crime as maybe the district of columbia. so we can concentrate more on all the little things. if you take care of little th g
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things at fairfax county, you don't have the big thing. >> behind the wall of the adult detention center, they practice the same with inmates. while some of the 1,-200 men and women are convicted, most are awaiting trial in the resolution of their cases. staff say no infrack is too minor -- infrack is too minor. >> we enforce rules. >> even a tissue bring reprimand. >> who left this tissue? you don't want to be locked in. somebody got to move that paper towel. >> i'll get it. >> thing are just as strict when it comes to the tidy not of individual cells. >> bed has to be made. no wrinkles, but i try my best. >> make sure when i come by your door your book is off the doors -- your back is off the doors, both arm by your side. >> every morning we have inspection. inmate has to go throughout and
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clean the cells. it has to be done in a certain way to where the post deputies look at the cells and make sure all the necessary stuff is in there neat, clean, and in an orderly fashion. >> unlike full contraband shakedowns where every inch of the cell is inspected, these daily check are simply for cleanliness. and today, that's good news for jasmine. >> i got some toothpaste in here. i hope she don't find. >> why? why would you have contraband? >> anything not in the original container is contraband. >> why isn't it in the original container? >> because i don't have regular toothpaste. i have the toothpaste that -- the toothpaste they give you is horrible. >> slaughter says she's in jail for hanging around the wrong crowd at a local walmart. >> i went into the store with friends. they were stealing tvs, computers, electronics. i was in the bathroom. when i came out, i was questioned, detained, then
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arrested and charged with grand larceny. which i don't understand why because i wasn't stealing anything. >> slaughter pled not guilty but admits to a history of stealing. >> i would get away with it, stealing clothes, constantly get away with stealing for so long. i've always looked for, you know, acceptance from people. like i wanted friends and -- you know, when you want friends, you try to -- you do things to impress people. my mom always told me, if somebody want you to constantly do something for you, they're not your friend. and me being a stubborn teenager, being stubborn, i didn't listen. i got away with it a couple of time, but then it started catching up to me. >> slaughter has a separate charge of perjury in a neighboring county. she's pled not guilty there, as well, but will remain housed at fairfax county until her grand
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lar -- larceny charge is resolved. she says her unusual appearance has led to cruelty. >> what's on your skin, is it contagio contagious? no, it's eczema. it's not that bad. that's all i hear. >> slaughter did not want to discuss why she has no eyebrows or lash, but it's led to unwanted nicknames. >> they call me giraffe, teradactyl, all kinds of [ bleep ]. i know on the outside i don't look like this. i do make-up, hair, lash, i do everything. so i don't look the same. >> she don't have eye business brow or eyelashes. i'm not trying to put her down or anything, but this is jail. people in jail talk. >> they call her avatar. they call her alien. i mean, it's cruel. >> avatar. that's our new nickname. people are calling her that on the block now. >> i cry a lot because i'm never
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heard, never understood. i'm always misunderstood. i'm always singled out. i'm always the outcast. and it hurts. >> she's like scaly a little bit. and she's tall and slinky, you know? sorry. >> ginger lucas is serving nine months after pleading guilty to selling crack-cocaine to an undercover officer. she's been here several time before for vconvictions includig selling crack and prostitution. >> i was doing anything and everything to get money to supply my habit. you know how they say if you smoke crack you lose a lot of weight? bull [ bleep ]. i was eating and smoking at the same time. after i go on my binge and
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stuff, i would just like go on another binge and start eating. so pretty much i had like two addictions. >> lucas says she's the largest woman in the jail. and at her heaviest, she weighed nearly double her current 320 pounds. >> probably about 580. close to 600. if i laid on my back, like hip would hang off the bed. i'm sorry, i got a lot of ass. >> lucas says she's used her weight to milk a lake a lot of . >> big girl. all over maryland and d.c. and virginia. full nudity where you wear a g-string as like a -- it could be black or clear. you get those specially made. >> ready? >> though lucas is imposing, she's popular in her housing unit. >> now plunge. >> i been knowing ginger a
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while. she's a good girl. >> i was intimidated at first because of her stature and look on her face. but she's actually very sweet and like cuddly. >> deputy. >> she wasn't this size when i first met her. what size -- that didn't mean nothing to me. i didn't care about that. >> james davis has been in a relationship with lucas for the past nine years and is a father to one of her sick children. they were both arrested for doing crack-cocaine to an undercover officer. davis also pled guilty but of sentenced to five years compared to lucas' nine months. he will soon leave her behind when he tranters for to prison. >> she's just a cool person to be around. she was always herself. >> [ bleep ] >> she never wanted to be nobody else. the first day i met her is the same person she was then is the same person she is now. >> they've actually -- would have been the only person that
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stand by me through rough periods. he doesn't make me feel like i -- he makes me feel like i was wanted, like i was special. >> with her boyfriend headed to prison and her children missing her and living with various family members, lucas says she's finally ready for change. >> i won't go back to doing what i of doing before to get me in trouble. if i lost james now -- i haven't seen him in a year, and i probably won't see him for another three, four years. kind of hurts. i need to make a change not only for me but for my kids. coming up -- >> really, really disappointing. >> new troubles for jasmine slaughter. and -- >> happened so fast. >> who threw the first punch? >> he hit first. >> there are no get out of free cards.
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♪ one of the policies in the tightly run fairfax county adult detention center requires medium and maximum security inmates to be locked out of their cells all day. this way they can be better observed by the post deputy. the officer who man the security station that looks over five different unit. up to 20 men at a time must co-exist in the small day room or common area between cells. >> i hate this place, man. just a nightmare. >> the cramped quarters can cause tempers to flare. >> where you going? what's happening? >> fight. >> deputies have just broken up a fight between josh franklin and derek elmore. it occurred somewhere between park place and marvin gardens. >> couldn't beat me at monopoly, that's it. got jacked -- jacked up. >> what's going on? >> we were playing monopoly basically. he just -- made this thing out
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of how i'm not doing it correctly. basically trying to put me down like i was doing it badly. you know what i'm saying? it was a disrespectful manner. >> he hit you? >> just happened so fast. >> did you fight back? >> not really. >> so who threw the first punch? >> he hit me first. >> he hit you where? >> on the side of my face here. >> right here? by your eye? >> yes, sir. i ran up to defend myself, and i threw a punch to him. >> inmate elmore didn't offer the story, franklin did. we took time to speak to other inmates to find out what occurred. did the light-skinned guy hit the darker first? >> it took a few minutes to hit each other. they were pushing back and forth like kids to. then it -- it just erupted. like a sucker punch, but i couldn't tell who started what.
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they weren't trying to hurt each other, it was more -- what's the right word to say? pussyfooting around? >> that's an option. >> that's what they were doing. >> another inmate he knows exactly who started the fight. >> if you can have a seat for me in the hallway. >> alden alexander is elmore's cell mate. >> playing monopoly, and he pushed him. elmore pushed him. >> okay. mr. elmore pushed mr. franklin? >> yeah. >> both will soon have hearing to determine how much time if any they will get in disciplinary segregation. as harsh a housing situation as anyone we've ever seen. >> from my personal perspective, i feel i should be found not guilty. but only got knows now, you know? >> i mean, this is jail. people lie. this is one thing -- it's filled with liars and thieves. i don't believe honestly
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anything that anybody tells me in here. ♪ >> who really started the fight? >> he started the fight. he started the entire thing. >> but elmore has a reputation for fighting. he's serving a one-year sentence for assault on a police officer. >> when you resist arrest, they try to make it like you're looking for police officers to beat up or something. that's not what it is. i don't put my hands on someone unless they put their hands on me. >> elmore says that's what franklin did during the monopoly game. franklin says he would never hurt anyone. >> i'm the most kindest guy on the block, if not the most encouraging. ♪ >> i'm a very religious guy. i stay in the bible, reading scriptures of encouragement to encourage myself, you know, in this time of afliction.
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cling to what is good. be kindly, affectionate to one another. >> franklin does a bible study, you know, every day. he basically walk around in his cell preaching to himself. you got a lot of guys, they call it jailhouse religion. you're doing your deal on the outside, but in jail all of a sudden you're a holy roller. >> i don't hide behind anything. i basically keep my head on straight by not thinking about what i'm here for, you know. >> what franklin is here for is the stuff of nightmares. he has pled guilty and is awaiting stoeawait ing sentencing on four vicks -- rape by force, sodomy of a helpless victim by force, robbery, and illegal use of a fireman. according to prosecutors, franklin contacted two women in an ad for escort ads. he met them at a hotel where he drew a gun and forced each woman
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to have sex with him. then authorities say he he made them have second with each other. -- have sex with each other. after franklin left the hotel, the women called 911. he was soon apprehended. despite his guilty plea, franklin has a different way of looking at it. >> people have different perspectives. they see it different ways. the situation is like a youth mistake that everyone, you know, seem to have in their youth. and nine time out of ten, most of them learn from them, you know. >> this might not be franklin's only mistake. during his stay here, new rape charge were filed against him in nearby arlington county. after franklin is extended in fairfax county, he'll be prosecuted in arlington, as well. though he says he is innocent, he might decide to enter a guilty plea. >> if you're innocent, why not
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fight it? >> because like i have fear in my heart in regards to like what will happen if i do. i don't want the worst punishment. i always keep in mind the worst punishment and what can happen, you know, if thing go wrong. so i try to keep it in mind, you know. >> coming up -- >> i'm the one person that motivated everybody on the block as far as, you know, reading the bible and doing everything that's right. >> josh franklin and darrick elmore plead their cases to avoid disciplinary sessiongation for fighting. >> this guy frank, he's crazy, man. now i got to be disciplined because of this guy? i don't -- i don't think it's fair.
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and she's well known to staff but for the wrong reasons. >> she was a management issue. loved to fight. loved to fuss. didn't -- i mean, she disrega disregarded authority. she didn't care. >> a few years earlier when lucas was even bigger than she is now, private first class clayborn had to take her to the ground in a fight. >> took me -- that little thing is strong. >> i'm training -- it doesn't matter how big they are. you have to take them down when you can. sometime when you're by yourself. she changed a lot. heck of a lot. >> it hasn't just been a change in behavior. at her heaviest lucas says she weighed nearly 600 pounds. she's dropped almost half of that and wants to lose more. >> people make fun of me sometimes. can't do a lot of things i want to do. what is, it six flags? they got the new superman and
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rides out and all that. well, i couldn't even fit in them. it was like i'd be like this, and i couldn't close the thing. i'm like -- it sucks. >> how does it make you feel when that happens? >> it hurts. hurts my feelings, but i got to do something about it. this weight got to go. i watch what i eat. like instead of eating like six sandwi sandwiches, i'll eat two. i'll walk around the gym about 41 times. i do just like leg routines. strengthens the legs. i can't do a pushup. i really want to do a pushup. >> and today lucas has reached a new milestone, she was issued a smaller uniform. >> what's wrong with your jumper? >> you don't pay no attention, do you? >> what? >> a smaller size?
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how did i -- >> i was in that big old parachu parachute. >> lucas' physique has been a source of emotional pain, she's not been sensitive about the feelings of another woman in her unit -- jasmine slaughter. >> avatar. that's her nickname. people are calling her that on the block now. >> slaughter is awaiting trial for larceny in fairfax county, but she's just returned from nearby stafford county where she was sentenced on an unrelated charge of perjury. >> really, really disappointing. gave me five months. so hopefully my time runs all together. that's what i'm hoping. i'm a little depressed behind it. the entirety of inmates -- tired of being around them. >> the feeling seem to be mutual after slaughter tells others about her court appearance. >> talking that dumb [ bleep ]. just [ bleep ] don't want to be bothered with you no more. >> that's mean.
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>> brenda brewer has been in and out of the jail over the past 30 years and says she doesn't want to hear slaughter whine about her problems. >> we playing cards, and i ain't going to hear [ bleep ]. she want us to baby her. you broke the law, so evidently you broke the law to get here. i'm not going to baby you. you tell me something, i'm going to take it like it is. i don't care when they say -- you got egg, beat it. >> i know miss brenda, she's old. i respect older people. but like she really struck a nerve. [ bleep ] >> put an egg in that shoe and beat it. ♪ beat it beat it ♪ >> got bad news. why the [ bleep ] would you do all that? >> come on. don't sweat it. who -- >> i just want to be heard. i want to be understood. i want to be listened to for once. one time. and you don't get that here. all you do is get punished, punished, punished.
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>> coming up, jasmine slaughter is forced to leave the housing unit. >> clayborn of like, "you're making it worse for yourself." i don't care anymore. >> running up the steps crying, "it's on now." >> you pled not guilty to fighting. i'm finding you guilty. >> josh franklin and darrick elmore find out the price for monopoly isn't paid in paper money.
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good morning, everyone. here's what's happening -- a police officer of shot in the arm in ferguson, missouri, saturday night. officials say the gunman is not in custody. the officer is expected to be okay. in pennsylvania, the search for eric frein has entered its third week. hundreds of law enforcement officers are searching the heavily wooded pocono mountains. police believe he planned the attack and his escape for years. more news later. now it's back to "lockup."
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at the fairfax county adult detention center, feeding the 1,200 men and women incarcerated here falls to inmate works like rasheed. in this kitchen, they look to do thing big. >> what i'm doing, i'm going to boil the potatoes first for 45 minutes or an hour. then i'm going to take them over, mash them with butter and milk. most institutions use powdered potatoes. we use real. >> they order approximately 30,000 pounds of food a week. 18,000 cookies, 10,-600 eight-ounce cartons of milk. the food is prepared by inmates. every 30 days they're down here
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working, they could receive five days shaved off their sentence. >> i try to do my best when i cook. it's not that bad. could have been worse. i've seen worse in other jails. the food is not that bad here. >> not every inmate likes the food, but it's almost gourmet when compared to a special meal the jail calls nutritional loaf. >> that's how they feed us in here. you don't want that. >> looks like a handful of [ bleep ] -- >> an unseasoned mixture of carrots, potatoes, beans, bread, cabbage, and onions. it's serve to inmates in disciplinary segregation, three meals a day, six days a week. >> there's no texture, no taste. the crunchiness doesn't help either. it smells disgusting. >> and the loaf may soon be on the menu for darrick elmore and josh franklin. they recently got into a fight over a game of monopoly. today, they will plead their cases in hopes of staying out of the harsh confines of
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disciplinary segregation where restrictions go well beyond the food. >> mr. franklin, let's finish up. >> lieutenant suarez will conduct hearing for both men starting with franklin who was recently convicted of crimes including rape and sodomy in fairfax county and faces rape charge in a neighboring county. he's brought two witnesses who will testify not only about the fight but about his character. >> all right, mr. franklin. you asked for these two as your witnesses for the hearing. is there anything you want to ask them? >> did you see him throw the first punch at me? >> elmore was saying something because he takes monopoly so serious every time. and he shoved franklin twice, then he threw a punch. >> all right. >> i would like to say that i'm particularly the one person that, you know, seems to motivate everybody on the block as far as, you know, reading the bible and doing everything that's right. >> yeah. i will say that he does lead a good example as far as trying to lead people toward the bible. and ever since i met him, he's been a good spoken person.
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you know, he doesn't curse, none of that stuff, so -- >> yeah. >> okay. thank you both. you can go back upstairs. >> now suarez will hear from darrick elmore, serving one year here for assaulting a police officer. >> in the chair to your left. >> he'll have to go it allen in the hearing. >> he asked for three witnesses. none of his witnesses wanted to come down. one was unavailable. two basically declined, done want to be part of it. >> this guy, frank, he's crazy, man. he just got mad because he lost the game. next thing you know, he want to fight about it. now i got to be disciplined because of this guy? i don't -- i don't think it's fair. >> so it was basically him by himself saying that i didn't start it, the other guy did. but the other guy had more people in his favor. at the end of the day, i couldn't say that one assaulted the other because there was no sort of independent witness to verify. as far as the fighting goes, what i do know is that there was a physical altercation. you can atest to that? basically that was your
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testimony. whether he started, you started. i know it happened. the witnesses concur, the post deputy's investigate shows there was a physical altercation between the two of you, okay? you pled not guilty to fighting. i'm finding you guilty. i'll taking into account the fact that you haven't had any disciplinary issues since you've been here. again, fighting won't be tolerated. so i'm giving you ten days d.s. i just need your signature on my copy. right there. >> i'm glad i only got ten days. could have been a lot worse. i could have had up to 30 days in the hole, so -- like i said, i'm reading my bible and exercising. i'll come out of the hole stronger than i was when i went in. >> franklin's punishment for the fight takes a different turn. >> as far as sentencing goes, i'm giving you ten days d.s. i'm suspending the ten days. this is not your first time in front of me for a hearing. >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. even since the last time that you were before me for a
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hearing, you caught another charge for defacing county property and were given five days suspended d.s. time. so i am reinstating those five days that were suspended previously. okay. i just need your signature on my copy. as far as franklin, i did give him the benefit of his witnesses and the report in his favor. at the same time, without a deputy to witness any part of the altercation, it was one person's word against another. but he has suspended time hanging over his head, so i gave him the five days suspended time just for the simple fact that he hasn't stayed out of trouble. >> both men are moved to disciplinary segregation where they will be confined to a single-person cell and have all their possessions taken except for one religious book. they will have their ma trez removed from their cells during the day, and of course will be served the nutritional loaf. the same fate might be in store for jasmine slaughter. >> i have a hearing coming up because i got three in-house charge. >> slaughter violated a jail
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rule by being under her cover after 8:00 a.m. >> i was only going to give her extra cleanup duties for being under her covers, for violating that rule. that's what i was going to. do i guess she was upset about that and started fussing at everyone and had a lot of loud outbursts. >> sheila hastings says she was one of the targets of slaughter's anchor. >> i looked at -- anger. >> i looked at jasmine, and she rolled her eyes. i like, why you rolling your eyes at me? i didn't do anything. then like, why are you still looking at me [ bleep ]? i got up and said, i can look at anyone i want to look at. >> according to private first-class clayborn, slaughter threw another sandwich at an inma inmate. >> i had her pack her thing. >> she looked and said, "[ bleep ] y'all, i mad. leave me alone." >> went up the steps crying, like, "it's on now." we didn't know what was on. >> patricia says she understands the actions.
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>> there's just mean girl in this place. they make fun of her. unfortunately, it came to a head. she just had enough. she snapped. >> miss clayborn like, you making it worse for yourself. i don't care anymore. >> next thing i know, the deputy come down the steps. four or five more officers in there. she got bad with the officers. i mean, it was a sergeant. she got -- jasmine got bad with the sergeant. the sergeant put the handcuffs on her and escorted her out. >> slaughter was confined to a cell on another floor pending a disciplinary hearing for ignoring order. >> i think she'd be better housed with other people or by herself. >> why is all this stuff coming at me? i just don't understand. >> having these girls picking on her seems unfair. i think she shouldn't have been treated that way. and i don't think she should have been the one that goes down there. i think it should have been the ones that started all the mess for her, calling her names. >> fairfax county [ bleep ]. i can't wait to leave her.
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tell them the same thing when i go to my hearing, too. the same exact thing. i'm going to write it up better. >> in preparation for the hearing, slaughter writes out her testimony. >> i'm going to explain everything. i don't think it's going to do anything. they're not going to care. >> coming up, jasmine slaughter mounts a highly detailed defense. >> is there anything else that deals directly with the refusing to be a direct centered. >> yeah. everything. >> go ahead. and -- >> for the gifts and the calling of god are vocal -- >> josh franklin is confronted about the disparity between his self-image and what his charges might say about him. >> one could say this is a serial rapist. what would you say?
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the fairfax county adult detention center, jasmine slaughter says her life has consisted of chronic teasing wye other inmates about her appearance. >> called me giraffe, called me teradactyl, all type of [ bleep ]. >> they call her avatar. they call her alien. >> have a seat at the table. >> slaughter of recently removed from the unit for disobeying orders and yelling at other inmates. she could wind up with time in the disciplinary segregation unit depending on the results of a hearing with sergeant taggert. >> tell me what happened, ma'am. >> okay. i wrote everything down so i don't forget nothing, okay. when clayborn told me to go upstairs and pack my staff, i did. but as i went up the stairs, i said [ bleep ], got what you wanted. i put my hand behind my back and left with them. her supervisor was like, "nobody cares about that crying." this monopoly game is not -- is not hers, and i could play.
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the game is over anyways. it's all she said, "i don't like you. you're nothing but a bottom [ bleep ]." i said, "whatever, i'm going under the radar again." she asked who else of at the table. >> let me stop you there, ma'am. does the rest of this novella deal with the incompatibility issue? >> yes. >> i'm missing that charge. please go ahead. >> she asked whole of at the table and said -- >> is there anything else that deals directly with the refusing to be a direct order or the -- making a false statement? >> yeah, everything. it's not that much. it's just -- only a little bit. it just looks like a lot because i didn't write on the back. >> go ahead. >> she asked who else was at the table. quinnisha -- >> they have a right to get their story out. that's my job is to hear them out. i did stop her for a moment, but she wanted to make her voice heard. i let her continue. >> i been called names such as
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avat avatar, giraffe, e.t., and bottom [ bleep ]. too many wrong in the beginning, but i'm not a troublemaker. and that's all i have to say. >> okay. all right. let me finish this up. i'll call you in a couple minutes and give you my determination, okay? grab your stuff. put back in the cell. sometimes people become emotional during the hearings. but they don't have any effect on the outcome. you know, whether they're -- happy, sad, you know, depressed. i mean, it doesn't change the actions that they've already taken. whether you're laughing at it or crying at it. the sentence is going to be the same. >> i'm glad i wrote my paper today because i wanted to bring everything as fresh as possible from the pod over to here to show them that i'm not down there starting stuff. i feel like somebody finally listened to me. like finally sat there and
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listened instead of cutting me off. i mean, it made me feel a lot better that i could let it out to somebody else. so maybe he can be in my shoes for, you know, those five minutes. >> slaughter's violations make her eligible for up to 30 days in disciplinary segregation. a decision that's up to sergeant taggert. >> for the charge of refusing the direct order, you pled guilty. i'm finding you guilty. that's publishable up to 15 days in disciplination sessie atioar. i'll dismiss seven days. for making a false statement, you pled guilty. i'm finding you guilty. i'll give you 15 days, but i'm going to suspend eight days, as well. you'll have an additional seven days. incompatibility, you pled not guilty. i told you i was dismissing that charge outright. basically from this incident, you have 14 days of disciplinary segregation that you'll be serving. my personally, i don't care about looks. i care about actions, okay. and the way you acted is not
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going to be -- we're not going to have that here in our facility, okay? you have issues with that inmate, you let your post deputy know. any questions about that, ma'am? >> huh-uh. >> okay. let me get a signature here. >> it's than bad. not that long. i mean, i don't mind being by myself. it's just -- not going to eat that loaf. only thing. >> head back to your cell. >> still, i have to take accountability for what i did. it wasn't right to go off like that. i won't do it again. i won't because i don't want to be in this situation again. >> slaughter's not the only inmate on the move. ginger lucas was transferred to a unit on the older side of the jail where the cells and common areas are smaller and more crowded. >> dirtier down here. i'm trying to get moved out of here quick. i don't like it. >> the transfer as well as five days' loss of commissary privileges came as a result of an argument lucas had with a nurse. still, the sanctions are less
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severe than disciplinary segregation but more painful to lucas is not knowing whether her boyfriend, james davis, is still in the jail or if he's been transferred to prison. >> i wrote jail a letter. haven't got a letter back yet. >> who did you send it to? >> his mom. >> jail policy prohibits inmate-to-inmate communication, so lucas mails her letters to davis' mother who forwards them to davis. >> last time i talked to him was last month when i got a letter from him. so i don't know if he's gone or if he's still here. i want him to know that i'm here. i'm not going nowhere. i'm not going nowhere. i mean, people may say i should leave him alone, but i love him. he's got my heart. i just want to tell him that i'm here for him. coming up --
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at the fairfax county adult detention center, josh franklin received five days in disciplinary segregation. for the gifts are vocal. >> prior to getting into trouble, he would conduct bible study for other inmates. >> what happens in the spiritual is awesome. it's awesome. believe it or not like, it's a lot of people in here that question the purpose of their
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lives. question why they're here on the earth. and basically that's what my studying, that's what my zeal is is to answer those type questions. >> recently franklin has had big questions to answer. he has pled guilty to rape by force, sodomy of a helpless victim by force, robbery, and illegal use of a firearm. he's awaiting sentencing wibut recently received charge of rape and alleged crime in a neighboring county and must soon answer accusations, as well. first he's confronted with another question. >> you're saying this is youth mistakes. but one could say this is a serial rapist. what would you say to that? >> that not true. it's not for one to judge, as well. so i know what happened, and god knows what happened. but at the same time, i feel that god allowed me to be in this situation so that i might
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submit fully to his will for my life instead of just living a life of partiality. living a life that's going to church one sunday and partying the next. the way i keep my peace, the way i sleep at night is by reading this book right here. and letting my mind stay at ease question onning that i didn't -- at ease that i didn't do it. that's how you can have peace. >> franklin could be sentenced to decade in rivers for his fairfax county -- in prison for his fairfax county vicks alone. ginger lucas on the other hand, is near the end of her sentence. now the mother of six must decide what change she will make on the outside. >> i don't want to go back to the strip club. i don't want want to go back to being around drugs, being around fast money. i don't want to put myself in that predicament. i want to get away from all that.
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>> lucas must also consider whether another source of income will be in her future. she has frequently worked as a prostitute despite the dangers. >> my best friend that got killed, she got shot in the head. it was a trick. he just came up and just boom. i was standing right next to her. i've been through it all. i've been shot. i've been stabbed. i've been raped. even though i've been through so much, i still have a good personality. overall, i'm still happy. >> how do you manage that? >> i don't know. honestly i don't know. i should be a [ bleep ] wreck right now, but i'm not. >> lucas says what she did as a prostitute could make a wreck of anyone. >> how much would you pull in in a night, let's say? >> depends on like what the client wanted, what type of fetish he had. given golden showers -- you know, i have had guys wanted me to carry them on my back for
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like 20 minutes and wrestle. and it turned them on. i'm like, okay. people have some weird fetishes. i had a guy with like sweaty pits. like every part of my body's been used sexually at least once. so -- >> you can laugh about it now obviously. but what does that do to you? doing all that stuff? >> i just liked the money. guy will pay anything to have their fantasies. even women -- fantasies are like the strongest thing in the mind. they'll do anything for it. so pay me, baby. i'll make your fantasy come true. >> lucas' boyfriend, james davis, is still awaiting his transfer to prison to begin his
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five-year sentence. he says he sold the drugs that earned him that time to help get lucas out of prostitution. >> the only reason i did it, i don't want her to go out there. i knew what she was going to have to do if i didn't help somehow. she would have to go to prostitution. i didn't want her to go out there, something happen. that's going to be on my conscience. i still feel the same now as i did when i first met her. even though i'm going through this. i mean, i still feel the same about her. >> she sends me birthday cars. i don't want to cry. missing him. miss my kids. it's just been on my mind. i just got a lot of [ bleep ] on my mind lately. it's crazy. >> jasmine slaughter's two-week
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stay in disciplinary segregation is almost complete. unlike most inmates, she's gotten through it with a smile on her face. >> i just made the best of it since i've been here. that's what she -- girl always said in 17. she's like, you're not even upset. you're just normal. i'm like, i mean, what else can i do? nothing else i can do than just sit here. >> slaughter didn't even mind the nutritional loaf. at least in moderation. >> there you go. a little bite. of beans. >> most inmates can't wait to leave disciplinary segregation, slaughter has made a special request. >> i asked to stay here. i just want to be by myself. i don't want to be in population anymore. it's too much drama. i don't want to be in the mix or anything. i don't want my name in anything. i don't want issues with deputies, inmates, nothing.
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i'm in a different place now. i'll be okay. i'll be fine. wrz . >> you are already clean because of the word which i have spoken to you, abide in me and i in as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abide in the violence, unless you abide in me. for the gifts and calling of god are vocal.
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matter, viewer discretion is advised. a sadistic murder transforms the jail. >> he was sodomized, peed on, spit on, boiling water poured on him. he was tortured. a roller derby queen takes a hard fall. >> i have kids, and i need to be with them, you know? this ain't cool no more. and one inmate realizes that even a good day in jail can have a dark side. >> some of these guys are looking upwards of 10, 15 years
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