training to ensure this never happens again. >> ranking committee member elijah cummings said he'd concerned if the leadership can be trusted. >> i'm unt sure ms. pearson has been completely transparent with us. we find out information through the newspapers. i went in with an open mind, but the more i listened, the more concerned i have become. >> congressman matt cartwright, do you believe the loordship is trustworthy? >> today i think there's good news and bad news. the good news is that this was an exceptional oversight in government reform hearing we had today. it wasn't the typical bomb-throwing event we've seen over and over and over. but that's where the good news

stops. the bad news is we have come together is that we have a shared and collected sense of outrage and disgust about what has happened. when the white house can be breached by somebody in this fashion, it raises the hackles of everybody on that committee, republicans and democrats, and i think ranking member cummings really set the tone when he went after director pearson about the problems with the culture at the secret service. the deep-rooted and deep-seated troubles they have at that agency that we have to fix. we have to fix it. we're talking by for and away the most threatened president we've ever had in our nation. we must protect him. we can't depend on him making the complaints. we here on capitol hill have to raise our voices in unison and protect our president. >> i think the unanimity across the aisle was actually pretty

stunning and singular and i think you make a good point. congressman, the question of whether or not the secret service is facing a budgetary issue and ms. pearson admitted that wasn't the case. if you look at the budget from 2007 to 2014, they have had steady increases. this is this a question of budgeting and man power or the leadership at the top not promoting the professionalism that americans expect? >> director pearson took some pointed questions on the budgetary numbers and ftes involved. to some extent, we have to remember she was hamstrung. she was speaking in a public forum. many of these issues are classified. nafshgts i have just now stepped out of the classified questions of director pearson to answer your questions. and i intend to go right back there. there's no doubt, we'll be following up to make sure that the secret service has all the

money it needs, all the personnel it needs. particularly she raised a question of logistics of hiring people. a lot of people apply, but it's a mountain of work to get through them and properly vet them so we have america's very best working in the secret service. >> congressman, were you surprised as a member of congress that the door to the front -- the front door of the white house was not typically locked? >> joy, i wasn't just surprised. i was shocked. i was appalled. in fact, in my round of questioning, i forced director pearson to admit that all of those adjectives are true. outrageous, disgusting, appalling. there's no excuse for what happened. and thank god we found out in a way where nobody got hurt because what i am interested in, overall s making sure that we don't have a tragedy. we know there are so many more people interested in hurting president obama than in any other president that we have to go above and beyond to protect

him and his family. >> congressman cartwright of pennsylvania, thank you very much for being here. >> my pleasure. >> we broke the story on the secret service lapses for t"the washington post" andey was assigned to the white house residence on the day of the 2011 shooting. carolyn, i want to start with you because you broke this story. tell us what surprised you most about the reporting. the lapses in security were shocking but also the lack of disclosure and time lapse between finding out somebody jumped the fence and finding out how far he breached into the white house. what surprised you most in your reporting? >> well f we're talking about the fence jumper, the most recent event, i think the things that surprised me most were just how many layers of security he was able to pierce. any one of them or two of them or three of them should be sort of a fail-safe, but in this case, on the outside, on the north lawn, there were five

things that should have stopped him and they all failed. a former high-ranking senior secret service officer told me, you know, every unit, one after the other, failed that day. they were, you know, a dog that was supposed to be a missile and that was supposed to stop this person by launching into the air. the dog was never released for reasons that aren't yet clear. there are some officers who should have been on post and should have been able to collar him, the uniform division officers. there is a s.w.a.t. team called the emergency response team that roves around the property. they also were -- >> carol, can you hold on one second? i apologize. i need you to hold on. we're going to dip into the pentagon briefing right now. they're talking about the u.s. mission against isis. >> the u.s. and coalition partners have attempted 310 attacks from the air, more than 30 have been in iraq. the pe remaining 76 in syria. we're delighted to be joined in these efforts in iraq today by the british, who conducted two precision strikes against isil

targets in the northwest part of the country in support of kurdish units who are in contact with the enemy. the targets we and our partners are hitting in this campaign range from the area around baghdad to fallujah across north central iraq to mosul and in syria from the east and north with borders are iraq and turkey, to aleppo and, of course, raqqa. in other words, when we say we're going after them, we mean it. it's important to note that while we continue to hit them where they are, it doesn't mean that we can or even should hit them at every moment. we must choose, we must discriminate between targets that matter more to us in space and time than others and between those that run higher risks of collateral damage or civilian casualties. that's a major difference between us and them. we care about preserving life. we're willing to be careful and patient and precise, even if that means waiting for them to make a mistake or make themselves more vulnerable. we've been honest about the fact that military act as loan will

not win this effort but that shouldn't be taken as an admission of ineffectiveness. one of the ways we know we're having an effect is precisely because the terrorists have had to change their tactics and communications and command and control. yes, they're blending in more. yes, they're dispersing. yes, they aren't communicating quite as openly or boldly as they were. that's a good thing. if they aren't operating as freely, they aren't as free to achieve their goals. that doesn't mean isil doesn't pose a threat. doesn't mean they aren't still trying and in some cases succeeding at taking and holding ground. no one said this would be easy or quick and no one should be lulled into a sense of security by accurate air strikes. we cannot bomb them into obscurity. as we share this sense of urgency, we must share a sense of patience about this entire effort. i think some of that has been lacking. beyond iraq and syria, there are a lot of issues on the secretary he's plate this week. first, earlier today the secretary met with prime minister modi of india at blair

house. they had a good discussion on bilateral defense issues we're facing together following up on their talks in new delhi. in the meeting, secretary noted the progress made during last week's council between undersecretary kendall and indian minimum strif defense on the defense trade and technology initiative. they also affirmed -- >> that was the pentagon briefing. we'll continue to monitor that and bring you any developments as we gem them. ayman is standing by in new york. tell us about this security pact -- or the latest on what the united states is trying to do vertsdz isis. more air strikes, more action inside syria. what are we doing and what are our allies doing at this point? czink the u.s. is recognizing that isis on the ground is a fluid organization. it's certainly capable of moving in various parts and various areas of both iraq and syria with relative ease. to some extent as we heard there from the pentagon's spokesperson, that makes it a

bit of a difficult target. they have to be selective when to engage it, when they feel those isis fighters will pose a threat. let's say against a community, against a neighborhood or perhaps even against some forces inside iraq like the peshmerga forces that are actually fighting them on the ground. in that sense, the u.s. is also trying to assess the damage of some of those air strikes. we're also hearing on on the ground that isis is very much present. by own u.s. intelligence estimates there are thousands of fighters on the ground. the air strikes being conducted now are certainly not enough to completely destroy the organization. the concern going forward is going to be when does the u.s. begin to measure progress. we heard the admiral say we feel because they're changing their tactics, they're becoming a disrupted organization and that in itself is a sign of progress, but i also think that is going to be the difficult part -- prove to be a difficult part for

the u.s. and allies in this military campaign. >> nbc's ayman, thank you very much. now back to the big story, secret story lapses and big hearings on capitol hill. aify served on president obama's personal detail and assigned to the white house residence on the day of thefof the 201 is shooti. i think what most americans were shocked about is given what we were heard before, when a woman hit the white house fence -- >> hit the barricade. >> shot by capitol police, children in the car. people were shocked by that. but the fact she didn't get close to the white house residence but someone scaled the fence and ran inside the white house, what layers of security were supposed to stop that person? >> so, going off of what we were discussing before with the author of "the washington post" article, she's correct. security is a multilayer system. you don't do one layer and then somebody gets sent. at the white house you have the fence. the fence is more of a

deterrent. it keeps the good guys out. but then you have officers as well. they're doing surveillance and walking up and down. they're surveilling the area. the officers on the ground, inside, the ert, emergency response team, which he noted, which is correct. you also have canine and getting to the doors, the layers within the door. on top of all that you have the command center which is the all knowing, all seeing eyes and ears of the area. to get to that point where you go inside and they apprehend that individual and the fact that the officers inside were surprised -- >> and and one was off duty. starting from just basic 101, why is the door not locked? >> there's a big compromise because it's an old building, a lot of historical building so you have to compromise with the staff, so secret service, i have to say, they can't just do what

they want. if they could do what they wanted, they would make the house completely -- just lock everything down. what they were talking at the hearing is they've taken proper proth protocol, it's a key lock system. i agree with that. it's the 21st century. what happens typically, and one of the experts mentioned this on the panel and i thought he spoke very well at congressional hearings, the security expert, he said you have to evolve. you have to progress. so sometimes you have a great agency, such as the service. what you do works so you keep doing the same thing. it's worked all this time. we don't need to change. herein lies the problem. the fundamental way of thinking. you have to keep evolving, advance in technology. >> the second question, why is deadly force, not that we're advocating it, because we're looking at police officers in situations where a person is unarmed, walking down the street, but the situation of use of deadly force by regular police officers seems so much more prevalent than the secret

service. someone can run across the north house of the white house, run into the white house where the president's child is and no force at all is used. that does not sound like what most people would assume. >> herein lies the difference. . when you're a daily police officer on the street. the probability of getting in a gun fight is more likely. when you're doing protection, you don't have a lot of those opportunities to engage an individual. they do have to follow the same law enforcement protocols. the difference what you'll see now is they're going to come up with something very specific as far as when you can and cannot shoot. a lot of agencies are vague with that because if it's a bad shoot, nobody wants responsibility. >> but have you snipers on the roof. you have armed men on the ground. it feels like there's so many layers of security, anybody who has visited the white house or even capitol hill, but none of them seem to have kicked in. >> with regard to the sniper, if you watch the video, you see him trying to make a sprint to the other side of the building. he did respond.

as far as -- i think it's a collective issue. they also talked about inexperience individuals actually protecting the white house because we just had unga here in new york and they sent those individuals here. so they're thinking, we can have others take place. this is where training is very important. going over protocol. it's muscle memory. you can't expect people -- well, they'll know what to do. we'll practice or train. >> it's continual training. >> a lot of these law enforcement problem we talk about, even with police, what do we always go back to? training. you can't train once or twice a year and be, okay, they got it. >> it's important. thank you for being here for your expertise. coming you, the supreme court delivers a blow to early voting in ohio. hours before polls are set to open today. state senator nina turner will be here to discuss the impact the ruling will have on her state and potentially several other states, too. right now in hong kong, tens of thousands of pro-democracy protesters are occupying the streets. they're digging in and demanding

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we're following breaking news out of kentucky where police are responding to shots fired as a louisville area high school. the fern creek high school, located ten miles southwest of downtown, has been evacuated. a nearby elementary remains in lockdown. students were seen walking out. school with their hands on their hands. several students reported seeing a firearm at the school. police confirm one person has been taken to the hospital though it's not clear if they were shot. we're monitoring the story and we'll keep you posted. now to the protests in hong kong.

it's just past 2 a.m. there when china began a week-long celebration of the founding. protests are growing on the streets of that country's financial capital. protesters are demanding beijing back down from its interference in elections from hong kong's chief executive, which elections are planned for 2017. today is the deadline for those demands to be met. on tuesday hong kong's current executive says the national government will continue to prescreen hong kong's leadership. gordon chang is a forbes columnist and author of "the coming collapse of china." to crack down heavily on these protesters as was done yesterday, obviously sends a very bad signal not just to the world but financial markets as well. what kind of restriction is the government in beijing under. >> hong kong is the world's

third largest financial market. if more banks close, because about 37 banks closed some of their operations yesterday. this is go to be serious. beijing wants hong kong to stay the way it is but a lot of people in china who want a piece of hong kong. all these little cities. my dad's hometown, a dusty agricultural city, they put up this manhattan apartment buildings and office blocks. you know, i'm sure they want a part of hong kong as well. there could be pushing and shoving inside -- >> meaning if they don't sort of shut down this protest movement, you may see other movements inside mainland china have the same democratic reforms? >> that's true. we've seen some sympathy protests. one in shanghai sunday where they expressed sympathy for students in hong kong.

a lot of cities around chinament a piece of hong kong which means they don't want hong kong to have special treatment. it's important that these little cities around china don't get a chance to grab a part of hong kong's business. >> "the wall street journal" has written about the importance of hong kong as a gateway to china. hong kong's role as a gateway through which the world trades good and finances with mainland china makes it a vital channel for china to advance its international aspirations. they have this desire to restrain hong kong and also leave it the way it is. >> they need it the way it is but the communist party calculations is going to be, first and foremost, it's own survival. what they're seeing going on in hong kong, where people want to vote in meaningful elections as being an exsensual threat. in the best of all threats they would like hong kong to continue as it is, they are not going to permit things to go on there.

i think they see the situation because hong kong is a threat in that sense. >> >> i don't think it can last very much longer. you see not only in hong kong but around china people just demanding not to be treated like infants. everyone wants a greater say in their lives. you're starting to see this as you have more and more prosperity in china itself. and so this is completely unsustainable. >> gordon chang of forbes, appreciate it. three things to know on this tuesday. jesse matthew jr. who police say is the main suspect in the abduction of uva student hannah graham is linked to two other cases. morgan harrington's parents spoke out about that this morning on the "today" show. >> i would like to appeal to him to please give the family

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deputies near the white house. in hong kong pro-democracy protesters are gathering by the tens of thousands demanding china give them more say in who leads them. in the war against isis, britain carried out its first air strikes. the pentagon says strikes mostly took place -- took out armored vehicles and artillery. today would be the first day of voting in the state of ohio if it wasn't for the supreme court. yesterday five conservative justices issued a ruling that shortened the voting period in ohio just in time for the midterms. that means five, not four -- this used to mean five not four weeks of early voting. means fewer opportunities to vote on the weekends and none in the evenings after 5:00. most importantly, the justices helped state republicans eliminate golden week, a period

that would have run through next monday, allowing same-day registration and voting at the same day. critics call it another attempt of republicans attempting to give themselves a leg up on voting day by shrinking opportunities for democrats. >> we are standing here today not at partisans but people who are pro voters. we should ensure in the 1st century, in the great state of ohio, eligible voters have every opportunity to vote, that they have access to the ballot box. >> and joining me now, ohio state senator nina turner, who you just saw in that clip and msnbc's zach rob. when this rule was originally passed through the legislature, i'm assuming you were against it. the current secretary of state points out the period of voting in ohio is longer than this most other states. >> thanks, joy, for talking

about this today. it was a party line vote, all democrats in the legislature voted against that because it takes away opportunity for folks to have access to the ballot box and has a disproportionate impact on african-american voters, low income voters and homeless voters. in 2012 about 59,000 folks voted during the golden period, which we no longer have. 63% of early voters are african-american. the data is there, the empirical data is there in terms of what impact this has on all voters in the state of ohio but a particularly disproportionate impact on african-americans, low income and homeless voters. >> nina turner is running for secretary of state. we asked john houston, her opponent, to join us but he never got back to us. what they did is very specific.

one saturday and one sunday you could vote in ohio and they eliminated that first week of voting. that's same-day registration. the potential impact of that, in your view is what? >> that's really the biggest deal out of this. you don't just say it goes from 35 days to 28 days. it's that golden week. if you're not that plugged into the process, can you show up, register to vote and vote all in one go that's going to disenfranchise a lot of people. the other is this is a response to a huge problem ohio had in 2004 where you had voters waiting 10, 11, 12 hours especially in urban neighborhoods, student areas. they put this early voting and same-day registration plan in to address that. now they're starting to cut it back. you may say some states like new york don't offer any early voting at all. what that leaves out is this is ohio being the poster child for voting problems.

>> senatpart of your districts cuyahoga county. has has the addition of lengthy voting period represented specifically the voters you represent? >> the voters in ohio, across the state, they enzoi that. it's almost -- they're taking this stuff away and want to compare us to other states. ohio should be the gold standard of elections. this is about voting opportunities for ohioans. we're not debating voting opportunities in other states. other states should rise to the level of what we had here in ohio. and this is an important point. the current secretary of state asked for an emergency stay to take away voting access for voters in the state of ohio. all voters, regardless of their political affiliation should be up in arms. people of good consciousness should be up in arms. this is the 21st century and we have republicans trying to take us back in time. it is unfair. it is immoral. it is unamerican. >> zach, we did have a

statement -- back in may john houston tried to explain his rationale for why he wanted to cut back early voting. he was actually on "the daily rundown." >> we have actually done exactly what the aclu sent a letter to me in 2012 asking me to do. they literally said, please secretary of state, implement fair and uniform standards across the state of ohio, not different standards in 88 counties as was the previous practice. we did that and two years later they file a lawsuit asking to go back to the old system. >> in your reporting have you heard of voting rights and civil liberties advocates asking for less early voting? that's essentially what he's saying. >> no. that's a miss saying of what the aclu was saying. you leave out counties with different populations that need early voting.

in urban centers you have a demand for early voting. in rural areas they don't need it as much so they don't have to offer it. that's what voting rights advocates were asking for. >> very quickly, this is not over because this was just a stay. there's going to be a continuing case? >> yeah. there will be a trial on the full case next year. the bigger case, whether it's texas i.d. law, wisconsin voter i.d. laws, one of these is likely to end up before the supreme court. >> last word to you, senator turner, because the other piece people haven't focused as much on is the 5:00 closing of the polsz. how will that actually impact the voters you represent? >> oh, my god, joy, working class ohioans, working class ohioans who string two, three, four jobs together. they cannot vote early in person. if you're a wage worker or a mother who has to pick up your children from day care and you

only have business hours to go vote? that is wrong. again, we should be expanding and protecting the access to the ballot box and not allow anybody to take us back. so, it is critical we continue to fight. zach is right. we will have our day in court. but that won't happen until next year. i want to encourage every voter in the great state of ohio, although you have less opportunities, we need to utilize the opportunities we have and get out to vote. a lot of confusion going on in the state of ohio right now, joy. it's a sad day. >> indeed. it would have been the first day of early voting and now it's not. state senator nina turner, thank you for being here. now an update on breaking news out of kentucky. metro police confirm one child was shot inside fern creek high school south of downtown louisville. the victim was taken to the hospital with nonlife threatening injuries. police confirm one shooter fled the scene and they're actively searching for that suspect at this time. police say this was an isolated incident that happened just inside the school. ey.

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unless she kept moving as recently as last saturday. the question is, does your first amendment right to peacefully assembly and petition your government have a keep it moving clause? executive director of the aclu of missouri. jeff, i think that's my fundamental question is, is it lawful? is it constitutional for the police to tell you you have to move your body? >> we think absolutely not, joy. we really appreciate you covering the issue. there's a problem here. the rule is unwritten, it's arbitrary and inconsistently enforced and has an incredibly chilling effect on protected first amendment activity. the right to protest when you believe your government is doing something wrong is fundamental, covered in the first amendment when we know. for the police to essentially make up a rule to protest protesters. >> what the counterargument they're attempting to make? i'm not sure if a protest is

stationary and they're outside of a police department and protesting, they're still there, still vocal, but why would it are for more palatable for that protester to be on their feet walking? i don't understand. >> the argument that was raised in court, and fortunately what was said in court is not consistent with what we're seeing, but what was claimed in court is for nighttime large crowds. they want to determine who was protesting and to identify individual who might be causing problems. what we have seen is during the daytime, this is on videotape, small groups of individuals protesting, being harassed and told they have to move. it's unforgivable. what we have told protesters is assert your rights, ask the officers what you're violating, they will them you believe you have a constitutional right to protest and then if the officers tell you to move, follow their rules and then go to court and challenge it. we hope the courts will be a part of the solution so that the

first amendment protesters can exercise their rights appropriately. >> so the lawsuit the aclu filed comes at the same time you have the associated press reporting the city demanded extraordinarily high fees to get documents. is there a sense n your reading of it, jeff, there's a sense of siege now developing among st. louis county and ferguson county police preventing basically the ability of people to petition their government? >> well, it is certainly a tense situation. we understand that. and the aclu in addition to our litigation is involved with conversations with all parties. with the protesters, with community, with elected officials, with police officials. our goal is to focus on a long term solution that allows for constitutional protections and gets to the underlying issues of which you know there are many. unfortunately, when the police take this sort of position where they're arbitrarily enforcing a rule, the protesters end up feeling picked on and harassed

and it exacerbates tensions. go ahead. >> i'm sorry. if you are forcing people to move, particularly during daylight hours when they're allowed to stand in protest, have you seen any evidence that's causing increased incidence of friction between individual police officers and protesters? >> absolutely. we get calls and contacts and frequent messages. individuals tell us they're standing there, police tell them to move and then they grab someone and arrest them. we're hearing those reports so consistently that we know it's true. we've seen videotapes of this occurring. the police need to do better. we hope the federal judge will rule and make it clear, the right to peaceful, and this is peaceful, first amendment protection and protests must be enforced. with the court order we think protesters will be able to have the right to do what they want to do, peaceful protest. >> during the march over the

edmond pettis bridge everyone remembers in the 1960s, there was a federal judge that ruled they have the right to walk across the bridge. isn't there a prima fascia right for citizen to protest whether moving or standing still. are you litigating that fundamental issue? >> it was very disheartening for me when i met the protesters, we know you are right. we know your right to protest is covered in the first amendment. unfortunately, when the police don't do their job, that's when we need the court to do their. we're hopeful we will see a result that ensures that the first amendment rights will be protected. >> aclu of missouri, thank you very much for being here. and next, we read between the lines on the future of voting rights in america.

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an update now on a situation we're monitoring out of kentucky where police confirm one student has been shot at a local high school. police say shots were reported before 2:00 eastern at fern creek high school located south of downtown louisville. the victim was taken to the hospital with nonlife threatening injuries. police say the gunman took off and the search is ongoing at this time. meanwhile, the supreme court's back and they've returned from their summer vacation in rare form. five member conservative majority wasting no time on junking section 4 of the voting rights act because racial discrimination is over, chief justice roberts would you have you known, clearing the courts and ohio to slash voting. gone are the golden week when ohioans could register and vote on the same day. gone are sunday voting. no more souls to the poles for you, black churches. if you needed to vote after 5 p.m., sorry, you can't do that

in ohio during early voting anymore. because working class people might show up and clog up the poles with demand for higher wages. the soon could reverberate in other states with republican legislators and governors to enact voting restrictions of their own. keep your eyes on texas, wisconsin, arkansas and north carolina. all states where voting rights group say the new law burden minority and young voters. in north carolina a three-judge panel from the fourth circuit u.s. court of appeals began hearing a case on thursday challenging what voting rights groups are calling america's worst voter suppression bill which includes a cornucopia of restrictions expected to make it harder for certain people to cast a ballot, according to think progress. one proceed vision cuts a week of early voting days. another restricts voter registration drives. a third implements a strict

voter i.d. law although that does not take effect until 2016, just in time for hilary. the north carolina law requires ballots to be thrown out if a voter shows up at the wrong precinct. change a law that used to allow voters to still have their votes counted as long as they were in the right county. during oral arguments, judge james winn, the only member who appeared in north carolina appeared baffled explaining he lives close to a precinct that's not his assigned polling place. he asked the state to justice why his vote should be thrown out if he did not travel to a precinct further away from his home. at one point his questions grew quite pointed. voting rights groups in north carolina should prevail in that case and it goes to the supreme court, how do you suppose the conservative majority would rule? something to think about as we head into an election that could decide who controls the

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made. it's self-evident that mistakes were made. too many mistakes, too many secrets. the head of the agency charged with protecting the president and the first family facing the music for not one but two major security breaches at the white house good afternoon. i'm krystal ball. members of congress are still searching for the truth about exactly what happen. the first breep of a 2011 shooting at the white house when agents were told to stand down. >> several agents believed shots were fired and the supervisor concluded it was a vehicle becomefiring. even if that were true, given the very small investment of resources, why not investigate the shots fired? there was a spontaneous conclusion that shots were fired. there were officers who believed they smelled gunpowder. your officers drew their weapons, director. that's how seriously they took it.

>>. >> and three years later the secret is out. we are just now learning that it took agents four days to realize the building had been hit seven times. that's only because a maid found broken glass and a chunk of fallen cement. >> i'm asking you why a housekeeper who doesn't spend 14 weeks in training, who doesn't have 18 weeks of training thereafter found glass and your agents did not? sdmroot housekeeper was able to locate fragments of glass on the truman balcony, which is not an area frequented by security personnel. >> the time of the shooting the president and first lady were on board the "uss carl vinson" but sasha was inside the white house with her grandmother and malia was due back at any moment. thankfully, no one was hurt. the bullets cost