tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC October 1, 2014 1:00am-2:01am PDT
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we've a very low alcohol tax. >> all right, that is "all in" for in evening. good evening, rachel. >> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. it was a private dinner last night at the white house. the prime minister hichlgs, you can see him sitting right across the table from president obama. he drank only warm water throughout the dinner. that's because he's fasting right now for religious observance. all in all, this was a pretty low key event by white house standards in honor of the new prime minister of india. that's how it went last night.
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contrast that with what happened last time a prime minister from india visited washington back in 2009. that one was the first full blown state dinner. capital s, capital d state dinner of the obama presidency. >> a virginia couple somehow managed to get into the steak dinner, everyone though on the official guest list, their names were nowhere to be found. >> on behalf of michelle and myself, welcome to the white house. >> once inside, they snapped sfoe toes with everyone from white house chief of staff to vice president joe biden.
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twice. pictures were then posted on facebook. everyone who enter ds the white hois grounds goes through magnetometers. they got so far as to shake hands with the new president of the united states during this formal event where you think there would be security everywhere. it was the first one that happened in public. we later learned that a couple of weeks before, without an
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invitation, in november, 2009, just a couple of weeks before that, during president obama's trip to asia, specifically on the way to the president's visit to south korea, there was a u.s. military plane that got held up in tie labd. it was not able to take off for south korea. one of the secret service agents had gone missing. he had gone missing in a brothel in thailand. rather than hold up the whole plane, a secret service supervisor agreed to stay behind in thailand. he was drunk in the aforementioned thai brothel. the secret service shipped him home, flew him commercial, apparently at great expense to the american taxes he report
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thrill faced no punishment. and then came the very serious incident in november, 2011. a man parked six football fields away managed to hit the upstairs residence of the white house while the president's daughter and mother-in-law were at home. we now know just how much the secret service bund bungled that experience. it's important to note where the shooter parked. that's where the shooter was located that night.
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turns out, in the months before that shooting, secret service officials pulled that agent away from the white house grounds. agents were dispatched to drive to maryland at the request of the head aufts. to instead, drive to maryland and check on the director's assistant. the director of the of the secret service was watching out for that person in maryland instead of watching the southern
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border of the white house grounds. up until a few months before the shooting. they called it operation moonlight. that was 2011. in the spring of 2013, the staff at this hotel called the white house to report that a man was demanding to be let into a woman's room at the hey adams. the agent had reportedly met this woman at the hotel bar and spent some time with her in her room that night. he apparently wanted to get back into her room to retrieve his bullet.
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she did not want to let him back in and ensued a hullabaloo when the secret service tried to force his way into the room. that agent was a senior supervisor in charge of overseeing the president's security detail. and in trying to force his way into this room, he apparently forgot that that was not his only indecember krigs. it was also discovered in the routine fol rowing there after. turned out that he and another secret service supervisor had been sending suggestively sexual e-mails. both were removed. but not before was discovered with the subjective e-mails.
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he, specifically, had also been one of the agents tasked with what went wrong in the giant hooker scandal hiring prostitutes and getting into disputes over how much to pay those prostitutes ahead of the president's trip in columbia back in 2012. so the bullet in the hotel room supervisor was picked with this on going scandal and on going story, it seems reich every time there's a new detail, every time we find out something new, another shoe drops. and the second shoe was way worse than the first shoe. it seems like something else has happened. the pace appears to have picked up. and these stories are now just coming out one right after
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another. let's start with the oend of last year, december. we saw this strange story unfold in south africa. this was the memorial for nelson mab dell mandella. at some point, it became clear that the person standing next to the president, the person interpreting that speech for the hearing impaired was not interpreting that speech. he was essentially just standing there next to the president and moving his arms around which was sort of funny at first and definitely strange and, obviously, offensive to some people for obvious reasons. but then when you stepped back from what was so strange, funny and even offensive, it turned out to be sort of alarming. he turned out to be quite mentally unwell. he was charged with murder back in south africa. the secret service is not supposed to let that happen.
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three months later, three secret service agents had to be sent home from the netherlands. they were found to be totally drunk. two months later, in may of this year, a male driver followed a car that was carrying president obama's daughters. he followed it into the white house gate. he was father or mother lowing the motorcade. and, in so doing, he was allowed in. that doesn't explain why the secret service let him in. and then september happens. first, we're told that man was not armed. and then we learned, in fact, he was armed with a knife. at first, we're told he's
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tackled as soon as he made it into the white house. and then we learned, he made it deep into the white house wfr he was stopped. we initially thought he had won through the wiet house by this path that we have marked here. now we think he actually took this path before he was tackled by a secret service agent. and then, today, as the director of the secret service was tefing about this incident with the guy getting into the white house with a knife, as she was testifying, it's further reported that the person who finally put a stop to this was not even a secret service aposted to the whitous or to the area where he braught down that armed intruder. the agent who brought him down was not even on duty. he happened to be sprinting through. had that happenstance, who know
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where is that armored man would have wound up inside the white house. as we were absorbing that detail, we learned flee days before that, secret service agents allowed president obama to ride in a elevator with a man who had a criminal record and a gun. a security contractor with a gun and three prior convictions for assault and battery was aloed on a elevator with president obama during a september 16th trip to atlanta. agents questioned the man when they used a national data base check. at some point in the encounter, the man agreed to turn over his gun.
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they didn't know the that the guy in the elevator with the president had a gun. it is stunning to have these stories break one right after another. these new breeches, these new incredibly damning details. i mean, to have these stories breaking, even as a congressional hearing is underway that's supposed to get the current director of the secret service answer for the agency's shortcoming, right? it's not a coincidence that we're learning all of this new information from the press right now. it seems like it may be, itself, a symptom. all of this reporting that we're getting right now, about new things that went wrong inside the mission to protect the president that we didn't know were wrong before, all of this new reporting is coming from leaks.
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they're linked to this agency which, after all, is a secret service. in an agency where things keep going very wrong, and they seem to now be going wrong on an accelerated pace. people who think the secret service is screwing up. people who think the secret service is not keeping him safe. they're leaking it to reporters and members of congress. the ranking member of the committee that held this oversight hearing today, had this to say after the hearing today about all of the leaks and whistle blowing and what it says about this agency. >> when you have secret service agents who are more comfortable talking to members of the media
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than whistle blowers because they're in fear that they're not going to be listened to, it seems to me almost impossible to correct that situation. almost impossible to correct that situation. >> what are we going to find out next? joining me now is the washington post reporter who has led the way on so much of that reporting. carol, thanks very much for joining us again. nice to see you. we have two new revelations. the person who took down the intruder was an off-duty agent.
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do you think we now understand the truth about those stories? and did i accurately summarize them? >> yes, of course you did. i didn't mean that to be a tease. i just feel that there are a lot of detail that is the secret sfsz is going to provide. i's obvious to me, that sources we've couple vated for a year and a half who care deeply about the reputation of this agency want to make sure that this becomes public. we'll see, as time goes on, what we learned. you know, it's something that we had heard about in the last couple of days. a couple of things were going on. a whistle blower, very motivated. very caring and went to the
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congressman's concern about protecting himself and making sure that this lapse was made public. the people said come on, you guys don't realize that about four days earlier, the president was on a elevator, a small utility elevator inside the cdc complex with a guy with a criminal record and with a gun. it checked out. and the secret service told us tonight that they are investigating this to try to understand better what exactly happened. and how the security protocols broke down.
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>> when you talk about the whistle blowers wo are very concerned about the reputation and the performance of this i agency, why do you think the public is the fix of the agency. do they know what it would take? >> i think you and i talked a little bit about last night. i koent want to make a group of people into one cliche. people have known for at least 1 1/2, 2 years that people think this agency is reactive.
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it doesn't expect to see one. it's not properly training and gurding itself for one. two, the training is pretty meager. and the stanrds that the secret service is supposed to uphold are not sort of drilled every day, every week. if nobody's coming over trying to assault the white house, you can get tired, you can get bored. third, the moral real, the staffing, the uniform division, the group that's responsible for this complex. they're treated as sort of second class citizens and those guys are beat down. they're getting called in to work on their off days.
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what i keep hearing about the luster is boiled down to sort of just one thought which is why can be the we bethe thing that we dwruzed to be. >> it's going to take some siers intervention. it's clear that this is going to have to be a big change, not a small one. thank you for your on going coverage in this. >> thank you, rachel. squl lots more ahead, including some late-breaking news about the ebola virus in the united states. please stay with us.
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for the first time, somebody who was not known to have the ebola virus has been diagnosed with having it here in the united states. over the past couple of months, the american shadow of the ebola outbreak in west africa has been the story of the american aid workers and doctors who were working in the area. there have been 6500 cases reported already. more than 3,000 people are known to have died. and the american shadow of that west african crisis has been a small numb bier of aid workers working in those countries.
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those american aid workers and doctors have successfully treated so far at hospitals in georgia and nebraska. a patient who was not symptomatic and had no idea that he was infected. he traveled to the united states and then was diagnosed with ebola here. the patient left liberia a week or two. he left liberia and arrived the next day in the u.s. he did not start to feel sick until four days later.
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the person first sought medical help two days later. no appears to have recognized what it was or what it might be. the person was sent home from the hospital on friday, but then he came back to the hospital and sought medical attention, again, on sunday. and, at that time, the parkt was put into an isolation ward on sunday. just two days ago, that happened in texas. this isolation ward happened last sunday. that test, as of early this afternoon, turned up positive for ebola.
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so now what happens, best as i understand it, is this. the patient is in intensive care, being treated under infection control protocols at texas prez bier tiern hospital. what are the prospects for this patient? what are the options for his treatment? is the hospital well-equipped to handle this difficult if not novel case to treat. by the time it was anoupsed by a cdc today, it's about four days when the patient started feeling symptoms and when he was admit today that isolation ward in the
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hospital on the 28th on sunday. wednesday to sunday. ebola is not transmitted by people who are got symptomatic. once a person has a fever and is showing body syrup toms, this person was syrupmatic and not in the hospital for most of the time between wednesday and sunday. cdc siz it will work to find everyone in that hospital. but here's the question. how much of a risk are those people at? and do we have the capacity to safely treat those people if any of them end up themselves becoming sick?
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doctor, thanks for being here. did i say any of that wrong? >> no, it was accurate. >> what's the immediate response in terms of recognizing that this is what they're dealing with and the initial handling of it? >> certainly, we're on the front line. we can move them quickly to the isolation room. >> does it have to be a more advanced isolation? >> actually, ebola is not easily transz mitted. it's actually through secretions. so in the emergency department, the first health care professional that patient has contact with in a process we call triage, is just asking questions.
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and then, more specifically, the countries that are affected. if the answer to those questions are yes, then we immediately place a mask on them and move them to an isolation room where we can do additional questions and testing, if necessary. >> as the cdc tries to find anyone exposed to this patient, will they be giving blood tests to those patients to check to see if they'd been expose snd or was it the sort of thing that you just watched symptoms develop. >> the blood test won't be positive until the patient becomes symptomatic. so the incubation period can be 2-21 days.
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we monitor patients that potentially have been exposed for 21 days mainly for fever. we bring them in for isolation and additional testing. >> as somebody who deals with these things in a big way and a small way as you're practicing in your involvement of academic medicine, are youed about your ability to be anyone to contain this as it inevitably spreads around the globe? >> very little chance that we'll have an outbreak in the united states. >> dr. bristo, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> we'll be right back.
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we have the best new thing in the world tonight that will protect you. it's a trick that will never work on you again. you just have to see this thing. it's, like, 90 seconds long and you'll be mesmerized. but then you will be protected forever from something in political ads that otherwise always works. it's incredible. and that is coming upright at the ind of the show. stay with us. ( whistle bl)ws
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he and others had been privately urging generals in the u.s. military that they should quit their post in order to make a political point against president obama. >> a lot of us are talking to the generals behind the scenes saying hey, if you disagree with the policy that the white house has given you, let's have a resignation. let's have a public resignation and state your protest and go out ablaze. i haven't seen that very much. in fact, i haven't seen that at all for years. >> sitting member of congress,
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both the house armed services committee and the committee for veterans affairs. he says he is talking to generals behind the scenes to encourage them to resign from the military. the tape of those remarks was friday. the tape was last week after we launched a brand new air war in syria. so a serving member of congress on the armed services exit tee trying to get armed generals to quit at the start of a war in afghanistan and another war in iraq. which generals has doug lanbourne been trying to get to quick. who else has been doing this. when he says a bunch of us have been doing this, does he mean other members of congress are doing this, too. why does doug lanboure nerks e think it helps the united states. the congressman's office told us
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on friday that a lot of us are talking to generals behind-the-scenes, his office told us that, in fact, the congressman was not referring to any current actions. he was referring to things 234 the past. this weekend, he told the colorado springs gazette he was talking about negotiations he had done when defense budget cuts were suggested last year. so that is when congressman lanbourne and others to resign from the military. i have to say, that may be the explanation. that's not really what it sounded like when he said it. >> let me assure you on this. a lot of us are talking to the generals behind the scenes saying hey, if you disagree with the policy that the white house
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is giving you, let's have a resignation. state your protest and go out in a blaze of glory. >> the congressman saying he forgot to put that whole statement in the past tense. he tweeted a link and said this. as a marine combat veteran, i know to keep my pop ticks off the battlefield. today, corey gardener also distanced himself saying that there's no room for partisan politics in the military. both are in tough, close races right now in colorado. so it's understandable that they would not want to be associated
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with, you know, effectively trying to inspire mutiny during wartime. but in addition, he's in a race of his own right now. and it turns out the guy that says he's urging the u.s. military to quit the mim tear, is himself right now running against a retired general. one with 32 years experience in the united states air force. he's a con essentialtive aircraft and he's now running in a congressional case in colorado that just got a lot more interesting. we asked the congressman to come on the show again and talk about this matter. his office laughd and then said no. general halter, really happy to have you here tonight. thanks for being here. >> good evening. thanks for having me.
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>> as i understand it, general, your district has a huge population of service members and veterans. how do you think they hear this when he makes a comment about want generals to quit. >> i was appalled. i had to ask them to show it to me twice before i believed what i heard. having talked to veterans around the district, when they've seen this, they've all had the same view. it is absolutely inappropriate for them to be encouraging senior aurss to resign their positions to make a point. >> is there any reason to believe he's just making this up? there's always the possibility that he hasn't done any one of this.
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or do you think that the congressman has been pulling off this sort of coup. is there any evidence that this sort of lobby is happening? >> it is interesting that mr. lanborune will sit here and talked about it to the best of my knowledge, either. he is basically now in a position where he's spending time trying to back off from the remarks. but he has not denied them. he basically stayed with his story. rather it was in the past or the recent past or the distant past, the fact is that he has done this. and i think if it was a made-up story, by this point, he would have decided to reverse points and hit. >> you've been through a lot in
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the military. after that kind of career, it seems to me that the world is sort of your oyster, at least in your field. the last thing i could imagine is wanting to surf with these guys in congress. could i just ask you what made you want to run? >> i think like most americans, we're all appalled at congress's ability to get much done. this is not a partisan issue. that said, it is time for the nation to step up and use the experience they've had in the military, also, mid four years in business, and bring that practical experience to try to get something done.
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best new thing still to come. but, first, there is this. just a few months after the last u.s. troops left iraq, president obama made a surprise trip to afghanistan. he went there on the one-year anniversary on the death of osama bin laden. the president said the leaving would be gradual but the u.s. was already handing authority over to afghan forces and he said by 2014, the transition would be complete. that was may 2012. a few months later, a master sergeant with the u.s. army in kuwait posed this haunting question to then defense secretary leon pi net that. we played this on the show when it happened.
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>> five years, ten years from now, will our children still be serving in afghanistan, too? the master sergeant asked the question, we were about 11 years into america's war on afghanistan. now we're starting year 14. and today, in a development that the beltway press did not cover at all, the answer to that master sergeant's question was finally, definitively given. and the answer is yes, yes. five years, ten years from now, our children will still be serving in afghanistan. it's amazing to me that this is not seen as news in the mainstream press and in the beltway. but today, the american government and afghan government signed an agreement that would leave roughly 10,000 troops in afghanistan basically indefinitely. the 10,000 american troops agreements signed today say it shall remain in force until the
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end of 2024 and beyond. so that happened today. and in the news, it's being treated like some arcane domestic matter for afghans. it's not even being treated as an american news story at all. something you might care about if you're an expert in the field or if you're in the military or studied landlocked central asia. this is a long-term agreement to keep deploying 10,000 american service members to afghanistan for a minimum of ten more years. it was never debated here. our congress never weighed in. even 99% of the pundit class totally ignored it. but it just happened today in the fine print in the middle of us already committing troops to our new war in iraq and syria. now we're committed to afghanistan basically forever. that happened today without a peep from washington. apparently this is not supposed to be news for us. not a matter for our politics. people talk about there being a
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civilian military divide in this country after so many years of war. this is why. they go again and again and again and again and again. add another ten years to the 14-year-long war they've already fought. and the civilian press and our civilian politic, don't even pretend to notice let alone care. it's absolutely astonishing.
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okay. best new thing in the world, this has no redeeming value whatsoever. but it's miss mer rising. if you live in a swing state or swing district it's all political ads all the time now. million, many, many millions of dollars spent to show candidates at the ranch, doing stuff ranchers do, wrangling up a better america for you. or candidates sitting in a local greasy where, of course, they
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always eat when they're there, because they're regular folks, too. mmm, hungry. or candidates in their offices, getting stuff done. hard at work for you. or a in uh one, candidates shooting stuff. with guns because whoo-hoo, america. in the midst of the tide of political ads we're dog paddling in, at slate.com they edited together a super cut of what i've always thought of as the creepiest campaign troep of them all. male candidates displaying for your pleasure the wife as political prop. it's always a little creepy at least in every sin tans, but when you put them together in a supercut, the trope blows up. you can't turn away. this is so good. watch. ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel ♪ like a natural woman
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♪ woman ♪ when my soul ♪ was in the lost and found >> my husband scott loves to surprise me. >> keeps the romance alive. ♪ i didn't know just what was wrong with me ♪ til your kiss helped me name it ♪ ♪ now i'm no longer doubtful >> i will fight for you every single day. thank you for watching. >> admit it. it's absolutely mesmerizing. you can't look away. i mean, there's no right way, no right way to be used as a political prop, right? but there is a right way to show exactly how people use their political wives as political props over and over and over again. slate.com in this supercut, you
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have just cured all of us ever of seeing that trope that same way ever again. best new thing in the world today. thank you. i will never get that out of my mind. "first look" is up next. good morning. right now on "first look," major health challenge as the first u.s. case of ebola surfaces. >> but remember, ebola doesn't spread before someone gets sick. >> now the cdc is scrambling to track the virus. and the heat is on. the head of the secret service for answers on a major security breach. >> ma'am, i want a short answer. i have very little time. >> i wish to god you -- you protected the white house like you're protecting your reputation here today. >> now a new mess for the secret service who let an armed felon into an elevator with president obama. plus, pro-democracy demonstrations rage on in hong kong. winter has already arrived in
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