we have not reached an agreement that would satisfy their concern. >> [ inaudible question ]. did the prime minister also raise broader concerns that the u.s. is being dup the by the charm offenses and might also collaborate in some way on the isis operation. >> well kathleen, there certainly was a lot of discussion about the important and strong relationship between the united states and israel. as you know, the security cooperation between our two nations is unprecedented and continues to grow stronger. this is manifested most recently by the partnership related to the iron dome system. recently the united states invested additional funds in

ensuring that that iron dome system could be well-stocked and well-supplied to continue to provide protection for civilians living under the threat of rocket launched by hamas on georgiaa. the president defends israel's right to defend their territory and their citizens from violent actions by hamas. you have also seen the united states in a variety of diplomatic forums defend against efforts to under mine israel in the international community.

it is a testament of the coordination between united states and israel. that was a focal point today. they had a conversation to lead an international coalation to degrade and ultimately destroy isil and the president welcomed president netanyahu's support on those efforts. >> did netanyahu bring up concerns about iran's participation in that effort? and how much did they talk about the nuclear issue. >> they did discuss the nuclear issue but i didn't sit in on that. and as to what president netanyahu brought up. i am prepared to to read what president obama said and i will let my counter part discuss the prime minister's discussion in the meeting. >> i want to make sure i understand what changed between is this morning when the president was said to have full confidence in miss pierson --

>> that was white house press secretary answering questions about julia pierson has resigned. jay johnson saluted her for her 30 years to the secret service. he added it is one of the finest in the world. joseph clancy who previously over saw the president's protective division will serve as the agency's new acting director. moments ago press secretary briefed reporters. >> this afternoon the president had the opportunity to telephone

director pearson to express his appreciation for her service to the agency and to the country. over the last several days we have seen recent and accumulating report its raising questions about the performance of the agency and the president concluded new leaders were required of that agency. >> gentleman, thank you for joining me on a very busy news day. let me just start with, i think the bomb shell within a bomb shell, a, julia pearson is resigning, but b, the white house didn't know about the armed felon working in the white house. until shortly before the washington post went live with its reporting. that would seem to be a fairly big deal and perhaps informs why the white house is announcing the resignation of jewel you

pe julia pearson today. >> indeed. it is a number of reasons after some unclear answers she gave yesterday. i think one of the troubling aspects of the post's coverage of all this, is how much the president didn't know and when he didn't know it. >> right. >> the secret service really seem to keep everyone, and it would appear, that includes the president of the united states in the dark about a lot of these things going wrong. and that includes all aspects of the secret service. here you have the main guy you're protecting, not knowing these problems, it's really upsetting to read these stories and it makes you rather astonished that none of this came out earlier. >> and i don't think it was just the elevator incident that led

to her resignation, of course, but a cascade of information that left the american public and the white house feeling like there was something going on with the secret service. >> you think? definitely something going on. julia pierson neglected to tell people any of this stuff. i need to mention the post's writer who owns this story and is responsible for these revelations, and in terms of needing a new director of the secret service, i don't think you need much more than a knife-yielding maniac getting over the fence and into the white house. that's clearly all the president needed. the president just learned just hours it was in the press that he was next to a crazy armed

felon guy in an elevator weeks zblag we don't know if he was crazy but he was an armed felon in the elevator with the president. the secret service didn't know about his past and the fact he was armed. that is a big national security concern. >> apparently he was acting, if not crazy, he was giddy just to be next to the president and the secret service didn't discover until later when they pulled him aside and were interviewing him and his boss came in to fire him from the local security detail and said hand me your gun and that's when they learned he was armed. they had been the known until that point. >> so ej, and eugene, here we are, and now there's been another high profile resignation to the agency that serves the administration. now we're asking the question that has been asked many times in the last few years, which is,

are things going to get fixed. because julia pierson was brought in to change a culture in and around the secret service whe where prostitutes were being used, a sense of lawlessness. she has now resigned of the secret service is bringing in joseph chancy. joseph clancy. has been acting director of the service and has been working for comcast. he's been the director of corporate security. with that said, pierson seemed to have been brought in for a very specific reason, change of culture. joseph clancy is being brought in for something else. when we have these reactive appointments there's a question if theim system will get fixed the way it needs to.

>> we don't know if this got worse during her tenure. it may have been happening long before she got there. she was brought in with a very specific priority to fix if what we call a frat house culture that seem to be taking hold inside the secret service. and i do think that precisely because she is a woman and there are not many woman who head up law enforcement agencies, there's more than there used to be. i think there will be pressure to say it can't be all her fault. what other folks are responsible for this. it does seem these problems were longer lasting. i'm glad you read the statement at the beginning of the show, all these men and women are people who are willing to lay down their lives for the president. that's something we always have to respect and say. but i think the very fact we have so much respect for the fundamental commitment for these people has led this agency until

this great washington post series, to go with very little scrutiny. and i think one of the things we learn here is that any government agency that goes a long time without public scrutiny will have serious problems. this was a rare case where republicans and democrats on the hill did not seem to be playing all that much politics. i think they were equally upset about the problems they saw here. >> yeah, eugene, to ej's point, these folks are doing important work and they are important service members in terms of protecting the president. there's the question of executing on the protocols, not just in terms of the elevator, t more we learn about the fence jumper, gonzalez, in july he was stopped the police found a stash

of weapons and a map with the white house circled on it. and he was spotted near the white house with a hatchet tucked into his waist band, all that happen brd he made it into the white house. we talked about how much information our government collects on ordinary civilians. here's a guy there should have been a trove of data someone should have been monitoring. >> i have wrote in the past about how if you try to know everything you end up knowing nothing. maybe you ought to focus your attention on people who are actually trouble. the thing is, you talked about protocols, after he got over the fence there was five rings of security, each of which failed to allow him to get in. protocols were not followed. these are men and women who are so dedicated that they are literally willing to lay down their lives for the president of

the united states and they have been failed by leadership and there's just no way to sugar coat that. because it's leadership that should be responsible for setting up a system in which protocols are not only learned but followed, rehearsed, trained and are carried out at the proper moment. that seems to have failed again and again and again. you have to point it leadership on that and i think you need new leadership. >> stay with me guys. we will have more after the break. hang with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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we are staying with breaking news hour, the resignation of secret service director julia

pierson, this coming one day after a bruising testimony on capitol hill when lawmakers a greed, not often that these names are used with a greed. moments ago, this statement was released. >> he said he's pleased that homeland security secretary is establishing an independent panel of outside experts to review security lapses by the agency. we talk about bipartisan on the hill, this is one of the rarest of the rare moments when democrats and republicans were agreeing something needed to go, specifically, julia pierson. the reactions in these moments after jay johnson has announced

the resignation is varying. it is worth noting coupummings supportive. how much more do you expect to hear republicans call for greater change at the secret service and further blame on this administration. >> i hope you see bipartisan calls for further change at the secret service. i mean, what we've just gone through here, reading those articles, you say there's something just deeply wrong here that needs to be fixed. and sure, i think the republicans will try to lay this off somehow on president obama. but this is an agency where in some ways their job is to protect the president. it's not an agency where i don't think we ever expected our president, or republican or democrat to be deeply involved. he needs to rely on them. i want to say, i'm really

worried about these failures to follow rules in protocol, it becomes an excuse to further keep americans away from the white house and further isolate the president of the united states. we shouldn't make it even harder for average citizens to shake the president's hand. there's a long way between that and a felon getting on the elevator with him in the white house. i hope we reform the secret service but hopefully not to put the president into a more bubble than he already is. >> that's a really important point. yesterday we heard of the use of overwhelming force for jumpers and i think people sympathize with that reaction but at the same time this is the people's house. there's a is a robust cleave.

the idea that anybody can gain entry to this house and see what happens, is something is that is important and animates both sides of the aisle. >> yes the white house is a potent symbol of our democracy and i absolutely believe americans have to be able to see it and be able to get close enough to experience the white house. and i think it would be an absolute tragedy if, for example, the secret service insisted this was a reason to set up check points, to essentially keep people from having access to that space in front of the white house, which after all is a first a mendment space, the people should have a right to come there to tell the president when he is doing right or wrong, whatever. the idea is that the secret service is going to be there watching and making sure that people who have ill intentions

are not allowed to get over the fence and into the grounds. one thing you can do without harming the relationship between people and their president is you could make the fence higher. that would make it harder. >> i would say consistently throughout this you have had very reasonable suggestions, better lock on the front door, maybe a higher fence. >> yeah, those are kind of the things i would think of. i hope they think of them too. >> to just talk a little bit about the politics which is starting to surface again this morning. wall street journal with an editorial saying a threat to president obama's personal safety is not enough to dis abuse h abu abuse his stangs.

. >> a we just did have accountability. i think if you're a progressive, you have to worry more than anyone about the government actually working. >> yeah. >> because if you're progressive, you're saying the government is capable of doing good things for the country and i believe that. but therefore we have every interest in saying that an agency just can't malfunction like this and i think we don't spend enough time thinking about the guts government, what makes it work, how do people prepare for emergencies, you saw it with fema in the bush administration. i think above all, progressives should be leading charge on this because otherwise almost everything we believe will go out of business because we're the ones who insist the government do good things. >> very fair point.

eugene we know pierson spoke moments ago and said stepping down she felt was the noble thing to do to take pressure off the organization. said it was painful to leave during this significant security breach wh breach. what is your level of optimism about the newly announced independent panel that will exam the security breach. whenever i hear the words "independent panel" i think that's the hammer on the nail of the could've the coffin of getting anything done. >> i don't put much stock in panels. the new interim director, joseph clancy is supposed to be a really good guy and executive and i know and respect have tweeted to that effect. i put more stock in his ability

to take a top to bottom look in that agency and begin a process of reform that will go layers deep. not a partisan issue, got to be done. >> thank you gentleman. washington post certainly got some new subscribers today. thank you both for your time and thoughts. coming up breaking news in the latest stand your ground trial. next an important message for americans eligible

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arrived in dallas where a patient is being treated with ebola. at this point don't know how he came in contact with the virus. his name is thomas eric duncan. he arrived in texas on saturday on the 20th but on the 26th was sent home. the information of his travels was not communicated. he was returned to the hospital and placed under diagnosis. right now the cdc is conducting contact tracing. in a press conference earlier today texas governor rick perry said mr. duncan had come into

contact with five school-aged children who are being held at home and being monitored. cdc officials are confident they can contain the virus at this point. doctor joining me now. thanks for being with us and also from dallas a professional and former cdc investigator. we're hearing thomas went to the hospital and told a nurse he had been in liberia but that critical piece of information was not relaid to the doctors who were to diagnose him. what are we to make of that. >> cdc guide lines say it is really important to take a travel history from someone who is presenting with symptoms that could be ebola. in this instance we are learning

that informing was given to the nurse but not relaid to the rst9 of the team. sadly he was sent home with antibiotics. and came back two days later and called a suspect of ebola patient. >> in terms of the break down in the system, we are being told by cdc that we got it, but the system didn't work. >> we have to look at what actually happened and what we can do. besides educating the health care workers, but the airports. anyone coming from a high-risk zone, tell the passengers on the plane to be aware if they have symptoms, to make sure that everybody knows. >> right to repeat to each medical professional who is treating you that you have been

in an area where ebola is an epidemic. >> exactly. and there are home testing kits the u.s. has taken them those high-risk areas. why not have them available for people coming on high-risk flights. it might be a little bit of over kill but why not do it. we don't have that much too lose. >> in terms of contact tracing, one would assume it is hard to give an accurate inventory of every single person you may come into contact with, especially if the patient is suffering from fever and could be, you know, not exactly lucid. >> so contact tracing lies very much at the heart of what is done in public health and what investigators at cdc are trained to do for every outbreak and it is hard work, involves pounding the payment and knocking on

doors and calling people. it is a tried and tested traditional method and we have had good success rates to stop outbreaks occurring and stop the spread of infektious diseases. >> is it easier if you are trying to get information from every person who may have interfaced with the patient, is it better to release a photo graph of the patient. >> privacy lies at the heart of our health care system. we have to protect patient confidentiality. we run the risk of deterring people from seeking health care in the first place. that's the last thing we want to do in a situation like this. >> doctor, let me ask you, i'm not sure, is my mic on, i hope

it is. in terms of the treatment that this patient is going to be going through at this point, we know he is in serious condition, initially critical condition, one would assume his condition is improving, is that fair to say. >> i think it is fair to say. >> in terms of going from critical to serious can we infer there is an increasing likelihood of his survival. >> in general once people move from critical to serious or stable it means things are not good but not getting worse, maybe he won't need as much round the clock monitoring. the thing is they are probably managing the symptoms. that's what we worry about most with ebola it can cause kid necessi ney to fail or cause bleeding. so they want the body to fight

it. >> he is not a health care worker. the cdc, has a well-considered algrithm that places -- do we need to change the al gor e inalggorithorithm many. >> we have a completely different sewage management system. in general if it were to spread here it would be different in

terms of controlling things. there he might be exposed to some of these things. there were reports that contaminated things and other stuff was being dug up out of the ground by animals and pets so you don't know what he might be exposed to or what might be going on over there. >> there will be a lot of information we will get in the coming hours. thank you both for your time and thoughts. last time president obama met with israel prime minister this is what was happening and it seemed their relationship was stuck in a chiller vortex. more on that coming up next. that dares to work all the way until the am. new aleve pm the only one with a sleep aid. plus the 12 hour strength of aleve.

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in hong kong, the 65th

anniversary of communist china is being marked by huge crowds looking for more autoonomy calling on their president to resign in next 24 hours, failure may call for occupation of government buildings. officials in hong kong are trying to wait out the protesters. a significant change from sunday's decision to tear gas crowds of civilians. in beijing signs of patience wearing thin. this editorial read allowed on state television, warning all residents to restore order. and if protests continued, quote, the consequences will be unimaginable. just hours as secretary of state john kerr reaffirmed america's support for democracy but made clear this was an internal matter. >> as china knows, we support

universal sufferage and believe in open society with highest possible degree of auto nomy. >> all countries should respect china's sovereignty, no one will allow those illegal act that's violate public order, that's the situation in the united states and the same situation in hong kong. >>im mam the number of posts se has kwaquad rupled since the st of the protest. it is now almost 5:00 a.m. thursday in hong kong where resident's are gearing up for a new day of demonstrations faced with the ultimatum will hong kong's chief executive resign, if not what happens next. thank you for joining me jamie.

on a huge, it's a huge breaking news day, but in terms of gio politics, i'm not store there's a bigger story in terms of potentially changing the pacific landscape. what do you think happens between hong kong and beijing, specifically. there seems to be two different reactions. >> and two different stories. the story of the protest yooers claiming the rights that was turned to them in 2007. china is responding not to hong kong's crisis but thinking of the crack down on the constitutionalist. so for the primary goal for one economic reform is seeing things getting unhinged. she has a lot of pressure on him to crack down.

where as the people in hong kong, this is her moment. they know china is starting to renege on the promises made 20 years ago, this is their moment to make their claim or hong kong will become just another city with the repressions. >> i wonder, to potentially wait out the protesters, if hong kong president is seen as seeding ground to the protesters, how bad is that to beijing, specifically for the reasons you just mentioned. >> beijing will have to bend a little bit but not much. >> let me interup the yask, why unimaginable. >> it is strong language. this is hong kong. china needs hong kong.

china is a huge beneficiary of the openness of hong kong. it doesn't have capital controls. hong kong, economically is a model of what china has potential to be but politicly is a model of what china has to be. china's economy is going over a cliff. they have a state-run system, misallocation of resources, all of the corruption and the answer to that is openness. i hope chinese leaders will see that. the people in hong kong are china's greatest patriots, paving the way for china's future and then know democracy is an incredibly powerful idea and these young people will not forget that. >> to that end, transparency, the government tried to shut down social media across the mainland and they are not

reacting to that. at the same time it must be said the internet is unshut downable to be perfectly plain spoken about it. >> look at the people in hong kong, they don't have the same access to the internet and they are setting up mesh networks and creative things. hong kong is connected to the world. china can't shut off hong kong from the world. they could go in heavy handed but the cost to china will bee norm auso enormous. they will alienate annen t an e generation in hong kong. next election people will say, geez, if hong kong is the model of the best we can do and this is it, and they're squaushing democracy, why would we ever think of joining this china. >> let me ask you in terms of

the west and in terms of the best play to encourage a more trance parent, democratic china, the u.s. gave a whimpy -- official term for it, saying the u.s. supports -- the aspirations of the hong kong people. very vague. but does it help move the ball. does the west chiming in about this serve to make the chinese dig their heels in deeper? >> we mahad to say something. it was shameful. the british did the deal in 1997 where they negotiated all this. especially in the beginning, very shameful. so we need to support these protesters. at the same time everyone knows we have limits because united

states and china are so integrated on so many -- so many different levels. but it's such a, going back to the geo politic significance of this, if there is contagious wonderful idea of freedom, it could have huge implications. it's a huge issue. especially over these coming days we're going to see a lot of push and pull. i think china will try to wait out the protesters and let the economic costs of hong kong being shot down erode some of the support the protesters are receiving. i wouldn't be surprised they will put instigators among the students. who knows if they should occupy government buildings or not but if there is that kind of escalation it could really get

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welcome to the ed show. we start with breaking news. secret service director julia pierson has resigned following a big hearing regarding the man who jumped the fence and made it well into the white house before being stopped. her replacement will be joseph clancy. this news follows yesterday's heated hearing on capital hill. moments ago the white house press secretary addressed the issue. >> she spent several hours in front of the cameras yesterday answering difficult questions from members of congress. in the context of that interaction she took responsibility for the short comings of the agency she led and she took responsibility for fixing them