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sneiderman. they will travel back to the u.s. and be placed into quarantine. dr. sneiderman explained the precautions they will take earlier on "today." >> we are approaching this very cautiously and probably more judicially than other people because we want to send the right message that people self quarantine on our own and take our temperature twice a day. >> we spoke with her parent this is morning about how he is doing. this was this their very first cable news interview. >> he is scared to death and spent two weeks forming the events in liberia and seeing people dieing on the streets in i bowl ebola and not having aco care. the last 24 hours have been difficult for him. >> we will have more in a couple of minutes. another new development, a patient is being monitored at howard university hospital for
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ebola-like symptoms. they returned from west africa as well. it is important to note, that is not yet an ebola diagnosis. we will let you know if that changes. the largest corporate cyber attack ever at a financial institution. jpmorgan chase said a breech may have compromised 83 million accounts. the hackers were able to gape access to dozens of computer servers. this will fist the high of $20 billion in fines to jpmorgan. this year jpmorgan's ceo got a raise for excellence in breaking the law, i guess? good news. unemployment at the lowest level in six years. new jobs members show that rate falling to 5.9% in the last month, it hasn't been that low since 2008. it's not all good news.
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let's get back to the ebola developments. hazmat crews arriving where a texas man fell ill with the virus. four people in the apartment have been quarantined for days by court order. man spoke to nbc news about why they are so worried. >> why do we have a quarantine in an apartment that is highly contaminate and high risk for the contact with the virus. >> new information at the hospital that diagnose and is treating eric thomas duncan. they have a computer flaw that kept doctors from seeing a nurse's note that he traveled to dallas from liberia. charles is following every facet of the story and just outside that apartment complex. charles, tell us why it took days to get a cleaning crew to
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the complex. >> that's a good question. they knew he was staying in this complex behind me since sunday. just today the hazmat crew showed up. they are doing the clean up. this is a biohazard company and they're used to crime scenes where they are mopping up biohazar biohazards. they will be taking the bedsheets and the towels and scrubbing down everywhere in the apartment complex in this unit. there were four people who will remain in the unit and it will take about three hours to clean up this place. the family will remain there for another 20 days or so until the end of this incubation period to make sure the family is safe. the health department said there is no danger for the people in the rest of the apartment complex and they warn the people affected by this, the four
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people to remain in their unit and not to receive visitors for the next 20 days or so. >> charles hadlock, thank you for following that story for us. all of this as the pentagon announces its new plan to send up to 3600 troops to help fight this outbreak in west africa. 600 more than previously announced. they will step into a hot spot that experts caution is not airborne and not easy to contract. the new diagnosis of the cameraman is raising new difficult questions about just how transmissible it actually is. we talked with his parents and asked them how they thought their son might have come into contact with the virus. >> there was one point where he was helping some folks spray down and disinfect a car. he wasn't wearing full protective equipment and thinkses he might have gotten a splash on his body. he thinks it was that, but he
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had so much different contact. he was in the clinics filming a lot and he was careful and trying to be cautious with wearing protective equipment, but he doesn't remember exactly when it was. >> that's the 50 time we publicly have heard a theory on how he may have contracted ebola. he fell ill 72 hours after our chief medical correspondent. he may have been infected days before they started working together. joining me now to unpack all of this stuff, the university hospital's case western. here on set, sioban o'connor. she is also the author of chasing ebola, thyme's current cover story. doctor, i will start with you. you heard the spectionulation about how he may have contracted the virus. does that sound plausible to you? >> i'm a pediatrician and not a pathologist.
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it is spread by blood and saa and sweat. we know that. this is a country that is very poor. what we think of as sanitation probably doesn't even exist. what happens with this disease is you become contagious after you are showing the sim symptoms. he may have been around people and just not known what was going on. remember, the sanitation that we think about is not the sanitation that they have. >> i put the same question to you. we keep getting told by officials this is not transmissible and not very transmissible and not airborne. a lot of warnings and not to panic. we will join that message that people shouldn't panic. it is important to understand how one can and can't get ebola. does it seem likely that cleaning out a car and getting splashed with something could result in that transmission? >> cleaning out a car is a tricky one. the virus can live on surfaces
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for a certain amount of time. how much of that is live and how much will be needed for it to result in an infection in a person is not really known. the bottom line is, it is as you say hard to get ebola. the conditions in west africa and particularly liberia are vastly different from the conditions here. we have the measures here. we have shower in and shower out facilities at hospitals. there ways to protect ourselves here. what's going on there on the other hand is an absolute crisis. >> doctor, you just heard this common refrain that we are prepare and we have a lot of resources. certainly that's the case, but it is troubling to hear this story of a hospital turning someone away who had all of the warping indicators. do you think the hospital system in the u.s. is prepared or do there need to be more resources and train something. >> i'm not sure what happened. supposedly a nurse was told he had been in liberia. she may not know where liberia
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is. i don't know that. i don't know how in that hospital they transfer the information. certainly now everybody knows where liberia and sierra leon and west africa is, i hope, but you have to worry about people who have been traveling. i got pneumonia on a transatlantic flight. you are in a plane and you are eight hours and you are in a closed condition. people are coughing. this is not believed to be spread by respiratory symptoms, but you can always catch things. >> there just 20 airports around the country that have quarantine zones. not just are hospitals prepared, but is the travel system prepared. what is your take? >> the precautions in place for people leaving west africa and coming to the united states certainly after the incident of a couple of days ago will be sufficient. as long as people are screened on the way here. remember you are not contagious
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unless you are symptomatic. if you have a fever and a thermometer could pick that up. >> finally the question of resources and a lot of budget cuts. hold for a second before you answer that. we will dip into a live pentagon briefing. take a listen at home. >> all of these are laying the ground work for a significant increase in the operational tempo on the ground in west africa. we project there could be nearly 4,000 troops deployed in support of the mission, but we are assessing the requirements on a daily basis. it may not go that high. in addition to the 1400 troops i announced on tuesday, an additional 1800 from the army will be deployed from various installations providing engineering and aviation and logistical support for this important mission.
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as we continue the response to the ebola crisis, i want to emphasize they remain closed on four lines of efforts. command and control, logistics, training and emergencying. second, an update on iraq and syria. there have been today more than 334 coalition air strikes in total including 248 in iraq and 86 in syria. they are launching a new web page on defense.gov forth ever focused on the operations. you can see a screen shot. it contains an interactive map that details air strikes in iraq and syria including mission objective, number of air strikes and aircraft utilized. third, as some of you may know, starting next week, the soldiers from the first brigade out of
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ft. hood will begin arriving in a lithuania and poland to reinforce and reassure in the face of the aggressions and in total there will be 800. >> the pentagon grieveing for admiral kirby saying new resources being devoted to this fight. 600 additional troops in addition what was committed there. >> is it going to be enough and will it be enough in particular working? . >> the logistics will be the vector for this. what people call ground meat. they catch it and eat it. it's a source of protein. there a lot of cultural things that will have to be changed to get it under control. people touch and kiss and hold
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dead bodies. rituals happen when women die that are different than what we do here and certain that is also how the virus is being spread. >> thank you so much, doctor. we have a few quick updates. the cdc briefing reporters and said they upped the number of individuals. they are monlowering the number. that is down to 50. they had been looking at 100 and signs of promise there. we are receiving word from the d.c. officials who are looking at a potential case of howard university saying no confirmed cases are in d.c. right now. we will keep an eye on that. coming up, separating fact and fiction on ebola. we know all of you have questions here. we will try to get you some answers. dr. natalie will join me to answer your questions live. there she is taking part in a live twitter chat at this very
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on. president obama is hitting back at growing frustration in the latino community about the lack of action on immigration reform. in new remarks at the congressional hispanic gala last night, he promised he will take executive action, just not yet. >> i said before if congress failed to live up to its responsibilities to solve this problem, i would act to fix as much of our immigration system as i can on my own and i meant what i said. so this is not a question of if, but when. >> the question of when indeed. the president also pushed to get out the latino vote. >> you already know how powerful the latino vote can be. in 2012, latinos voted in record numbers. despite that record breaking turn out, only 48% of hispanic voters turned out. fewer than half. the clearest path to change is
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to change that number. [speaking foreign language] yes we can, if we vote. >> in a number of key races, voters can make the difference in these mid-terms. what's it going to take to mobilize them. telemundo anchor jose diaz was honored at the gill a. thank you for being here. always a pleasure. >> always a pleasure to see you. >> a protester interrupted the president's speech shouting we need relief now. he told her to hold on and listen to his remarks. do you think he did going disswage this criticism some. >> the people that are upset like this young lady inside the theater and there were also protesters outside last night. they are feeling that politics is being played because the president said he was going to act unilaterally before the end
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of the summer and days before the end of the summer he said i will wait until after the elections. >> forget essentially, he is being transparent about the fact that this is political. >> correct. a lot of people say and i talked with the folks outside last night and they are saying listen, this is not about politics. this is about the fact that my mom could be deported or is being deported. politics tends to be of a secondary nature when your mother or father is about to be deported. some months ago i met a young lady in los angeles who was living in her car and has two beautiful daughters. she said i had to leave my house because my husband who was the guy who brought home the money was deported when we lot of our house. this is not a political thing because it's real and visceral and affecting their lives. for those people saying i am going to wait until after the elections, it doesn't ring a
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very good bell. >> there is going to be a number of people who will be deported in that period where they may not have been if the president acted earlier if the president promised to. >> about 1,000 people are being deported every day. if the house of representatives had belt with immigration reform, they passed a bill over a year ago. that included border security and also legalization for the millions. at least if they dealt with the aspects. the president wouldn't feel he has to do this. >> there has been gridlock when the president pushes it. when he does act, what specific steps can he take that will make a difference and be more than just symbolic? >> congress is going to react negatively to any step he takes regardless of how large it is. here's something he could do and
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i'm sure he is considering. about 700,000 deferred action in dreamers that already have legalization for a limited period. how about including the parents of those kids that are here and were brought here through no fault of their own. that would probably be four or five million people. that's something he could do. you can say we have already legalized the kids. let's not deport the parents. he could consider that and secure communities which is a program started under the bush administration and the obama administration continued. they said the cities will get funding, but the police have to act as immigration officers. local police. that could be reviewed. it's an expectative order that created it. maybe another executive order to eliminate it or change parts of it. some things he is looking at and i know he is looking at it. i talked to him about this last
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year. he was very hopeful that the house of representatives would do something. how about anything on an immigration reform? it didn't happen. >> steps can be taken even no. we will have to see what comes to pass. there is a lot at stake. they urged latinos to skip out on voting. this could cost people in the election. thank you for updating us on that and thank you for all your reporting. you do such good work. watch jose's show weekdays at 10:00 a.m. i am a fan myself. don't miss it. we asked all of you to send in your questions on ebola. we are answering them in a couple of moments woochly will have a doctor here who is dealing with the outbreak. she will be live to separate the fact and the fiction on all things ebola. don't go away before earning enough cash back from bank of america to help entertain some friends at the beach. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time.
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would backfire. by isolating the countries, it will be harder to help them and spread more and we will be more likely to be exposed here. >> tom freed in warning against closing u.s. borders in the face of this ebola outbreak in west africa. this after questions from many politicians including ted cruz about whether the faa needs to do more to restrict travel out of west africa. we are getting fresh updates from the teleconference this hour, including the news that of the 100 people who came into contact with thomas eric duncan, only 50 are being monitored on a daily basis and showing signs of improvement. hazmat crews are at the apartment right now at the ready to remove contaminated materials. it plans to prosecute duncan who left that country and became the first u.s. diagnosis of ebola this week. he allegedly lied on the airport health questionnaire before the trip saying no to the question
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of whether he had any contact with anyone infected with ebola prior to leaving liberia. all of this raising questions about how prepared they are for an outbreak. following this for us, thank you, tom. are there legal requirements for passengers to disclose if they are sick? >> that caught people by surprise. under u.s. law, there is no requirement for a passenger to tell an airline that he or she is sick. an airline may see that someone looks sick and see it at the ticket county and may see it at the gate. if so, they can deny boarding to a passenger and once on board an aircraft if they are en route to the united states and somebody becomes ill and it looks like it's a serious illness, they must call ahead and notify u.s. health authorities that they have an inbound flight with somebody who could pose a risk both to the passengers and crew of the plane and also on the
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ground. there is a service called stat md run out of the university of pittsburgh medical center. it's a hotline and they handle 9,000 phone calls and air calls and radio transmissions a year from aircraft around the world asking for medical advice because of something that is happening or from ground crew because of something happening. the call would come into on them first and they would often notify if necessary the cdc quarantine station at the port of entry where the airline is coming in. the cdc would decide whether to quarantine somebody. >> huge infrastructure problems and obstacles in terms of whether there needs to be policy changes getting into the country. appreciate it. helpful update there. this latest case along with nbc free lance cameraman who tested positive for ebola have a swirl of confusion about the disease and how contagious it is.
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that's the focus of your questions and we are joined by dr. natalie from the langeo medical center on the designated ebola team to answer your questions. they have been coming in on twitter and let's get right to it. thank you, doctor, and thank you all of you at home. luke wants to know what makes ebola different and how does it compare to other diseases? >> what we think and why this is a virulent disease is that in very short order after someone starts to display symptoms, they can be sick with clotting abnormalities and kidney failure and electrolyte disturbances and get sick very quickly. that's why they say if they come to this country or are in a facility that can handle this. the fatality rate drops dramatically with supportive care. that is replenishing the electrolyte imbalances and
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dialysis and clotting factors for people who are bleeding. it's not so much that this virus doesn't have a therapy or a treatment, but people get much sicker than they do than with an influenza virus and ride it out. these people need much more intensive supportive care. in a facility that can handle that, we can improve survival. >> here's what a viewer wants to know. how do i keep my four--month-old protected? >> the same way everybody does. the portal of entry, how you are going to get the infection or sbk infected is through the mouth, the nose, the eyes, and obviously any break in the skin. for a 4-month-old, maybe you think about not going crowded places and subways and that's more of -- i don't want to sound like a fear mongerer, but you follow the same precautions as you would for an adult. >> another viewer said how friendly is this virus with others? does it blend with the flu?
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>> it's a completely different species of virus. the ebola virus has five different species, four of which can cause disease in humans. it is nicknamed hemorrhagic fever for the reason we discussed. fever and bleeding is a symptom. there is no cross contamination. the one point is if somebody is sick with one infection, the immune system is more compromised. are you more susceptible, but other than that we don't need to draw parallels or connections. >> here's another one. does early diagnosis improve chances of recovery? >> it absolutely does. not because you can institute a medical or farm logic therapy. we are not doing that universally, but at the earliest signs of symptoms, you get the labs drawn and make sure they are hydrate and have blood pressure support. that will increase survival. if you wait 48 or 72 hours by
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the time you show up at a treatment facility and you necessary kidney failure, it will be harder to reverse that damage. >> thank you so much, doctor. do we have time for any more? we don't, but keep them coming and we will answer as many of your questions as we can. thank you, dr. natalie. she will stay online to answer your questions throughout the hour. tweet or submit them on the web. #ebolaanswers. if you care about this story, there is something you can do that is not a cure all, but it is something we have been talking about all week. just sign the campaign's act to end ebola petition and share it with #endebola. make sure it gets the resources it needs. find the info at nbc.com. >> senior officials will update their efforts on the ebola response in a 3:30 news
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conference at the white house. we also have live pictures just coming in now of the apartment in dallas. all of duncan's belongings are in one room. no one is sleeping there. hazmat crews are on the scene. this is the site of the first u.s. ebola diagnosis. we will keep an eye on that for you. a crucial ally joins the fight against isis. what effect is it going to have? the coalition grows and we look at the ups and downs after this break. don't go away. you know your dentures can move.
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whenwork with equity experts who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. >> a new air strike in the campaign against isis. between thursday and today, six air strikes in in iraq total. signs from the coalition surrounding the u.s. the saudis and the ua participating in the strikes.
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there is a website to learn more about day to day efforts. that website is defense.gov/counter-isil. also today, australia announced it will be joining the u.s.-led mission though only on the iraqi side of separations. a new and important coalition ally, turkey. the parliament authorized action against isis and not clear what actual participation will result, but it's a significant step none the less. an urgently needed from a turkish standpoint. they tightened the grip on the town that is right on the 560-mile border with turkey. moments ago the white house released this statement saying we look forward to working closely with the government of turk tow incorporate the unique capabilities into the growing international coalition to counter isis. more on this now joined by eli lake and reporter for the daily beast and former ci accounter
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terrorism analyst who wrote the book find, fix, finish inside the counter terrorism campaigns that killed bin laden and devastated al qaeda. hoping to replicate the success, i will start with you. what do you expect to see happening on the syrian turkish border now that it passed? will they stop isis from taking control? >> i really don't think so. remember one of the things that doesn't get a lot of play is that this has been an authorization of force that has been in play for about two years now. ever since 2012, the turks had an authorization to use force against syrian areas and now they reauthorized it. will we see surkish jets blasting targets in syria? i sincerely doubt that. >> how significant would the fall be? >> it would be significant from
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a morale perspective. one of the concerns is that the most extreme elements have taken over the border points. the other is that turkey has been the country that many of the western recruits that go and join isis and they have use and that has been a huge problem from the west's perspective. it's not to say that the turks want the westerners to join isis, but they haven't done as much as they should to stop it. how much blow back does the u.s. get for partnering with turkey right now? >> it has been widely reported that president obama has a warm personal relationship with him even though he has done many things that raised a lot of concerns in the west including his own starting with his own internal repression with elementses in his own country.
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the real concern is the mitt turkish intelligence service. we learned earlier that that service burned a series of israeli network in turkey that was used to spy on iran and unprecedented. there is a lot of chatter at least in the western intelligence community that the mitt has their own agenda and they are closer to support groups like isis than the political leadership in turkey right now. >> we read that white house statement that just came in a couple of minutes ago saying unique capabilities are part of the appeal. talk to us about what the capabilities are. obviously there is an american air base. >> right. we have kind of what eli talked about or alluded to. we have a strong relationship from an intelligence perspective with the turks. this has been strained in recent times, but it's still a very, very close one. the turks also have a formidable
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army that they can unleash if they desire. in the late 90s, turkey wanted to actually capture one person, the head of the pkk terrorist organization that has been fighting. right now they have been fighting the turkish state for the last generation or so. they mobilized 15,000 troops on the syrian border and said if you don't cough up this individual, we will do something really bad to your country. assad, president assad gave him up. they can marshal increatible military force if they so desire. the question is whether they have the will to do so. that's up in the air. >> a lot of absence of will on the issues you are talking b. another big stumbling block seems to be coordination on the syrian side and even before the operation was fascinated by the cease you have out. u.s. special opes back in june. one of the things that months before the u.s. started this
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campaign of bombing, they made detailed plans to hit al qaeda planners and syria. the targeting pack ajs were not even sent to the white house. what does that reveal about the level of coordination into the current operation? >> just to be quick, when we learned about what the group was last week, there were a lot of skepticism and people suggested in some article that is the white house was maybe making this up and i think that this shows that at least from the perspective of our special operator or intelligence, the khorazan group and al qaeda central planners are a major concern and they have been on the radar for a while. >> again, thank you. this is a helpful update. we want you to stay with us. there is something interesting coming up next. what do you do when you are out manned in a war as the free syrian army has been? they turn to ingenuity and playstation controllers used to control armored vehicles. you won't believe this one. stay around, everybody.
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. the pentagon is soon going to begin arming and training syrian rebels. up until now the free syrian army has been cobbling together weapons whenever and however they can, even making them themselves. in one case with parts from video game controllers. our parts at vocative got an up-close look at this development. ♪ ♪ this has a 50-caliber machine gun, also equipped with a camera.
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♪ ♪ >> thanks to our partners for vocativa there. thank you both. eli, first up, how much of a game-changer is it going to be for these troops who are patching things together to receive more american weaponry and training? >> that's hard to tell at this point. we know for a fact that, you know, they will get maybe 5,000
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new people from the base in saudi arabia in the next year. there have been some people trained in jordan we know about in a more secret program. but the momentum in terms of the opposition is with these extreme barbaric jihadists. >> i was talking on background to a prominent u.s. military leader who was saying you can't eliminate the risk of these kind of proxy forces turning against u.s. forces, only mitigate. and talking about the tactical forces to mitigate, light putting more gps devices on the weapons given, like having automatic destruction dates on some of the weapons. what steps can be taken specifically by the pentagon as we start handing out more weaponry? >> i mean, that's a very, very difficult question. as you can see, from that video, necessity is the mother of invention. and the guys creating these weapons of war are fellows in their 20s and early 30s. so these are guys who grew up with video games and they know
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everything your average 25-year-old guy in america actually knows as well. so, the question is, is whether we can actually put an end date on our weapons. i'm not sure. once you put a gun in somebody else's hands, you don't know where it will show up. >> both some interesting developments on the ground and new pitfalls as we arm up and train these forces. this wraps up "r.f. daily." thank you for joining me. now it's time for "the reid report" with my colleague joy reid. >> appreciate it, ronan. up next, we'll give you the condition on the latest american who tested positive for ebola and the liberian now in isolation in a dallas hospital. 31 days until election day and president obama is hitting the road to talk about the economy and immigration. plus, overnight arrests and a new pr problem for the ferguson police department. "the reid report" is next.
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hello, i'm joy reid and this is "the reid report." we're watching major developments in dallas where thomas duncan remains in isolation in the hospital while family members he had contact with are now under supervised quarantine. >> pray for god. >> we'll also have a live report from liberia where a freelance cameraman working for nbc news is the latest american to be infected. let's start with the latest on ebola here in the u.s. in just over an hour from now, senior administration officials will hold a briefing on the u.s. government response to the ebola pandemic. we'll bring that to you live at 3:30 eastern. on the ground in texas, the nephew of thomas eric duncan, the liberian national being treated for ebola at a dallas hospital, tells nbc news his uncle is improving. right now five days after duncan
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was hospitalized, the apartment where he was staying and where four family members are being quran teed is finally being sanitized. meanwhile, the parents of freelance journalist who was work with dr. nancy snyderman's nbc news crew who tested positive for ebola says he's in good spirits. >> his spirits seem better today. i think obviously he's scared and worried. he's been filming what's been happening in liberia for two weeks and seeing the death and tragedy and now it's really hit home for him. >> the whole team will be transported back to the u.s. this weekend. a public health professor at ut dallas and a staff writer at dallas morning news. >> let's start with the procedures and how they might have changed after this bungled first response to this ebola
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