the u.s. unemployment rate is below 6%. like i said, it hasn't been that low in six years. right now the president is on the road taking credit for an economic turn-around. he will hold a town hall at millennium steel, a processing plant in indiana, where he'll talk economy, manufacturing and jobs, fresh off that new jobs report today. we'll bring that to you live. and here are the numbers. the u.s. economy added 248,000 jobs in september. the unemployment rate, that dropped to 5.9%. but before you break out in a verse of happy days are here again, there is that pesky labor participation rate of just 62.7%. people actually in the workforce. that 62.7% is at a 36-year low. we have to go back to 1978 to see numbers that low. manufacturing is among the sectors lagging behind in job creation. the president will announce a

new competition designed to jump start invasion and manufacturing. fitting on this national manufacturing day. bet you didn't know about that. the white house where the ebola news conference will also be held and it's where we find our own kristin welker. let's start with those jobs numbers first. the white house has to be pretty happy about that. >> oh, they are. as you mentioned, president obama's going to use that steel manufacturing plant to taut these strong numbers we are seeing this month. he's particularly going to focus on manufacturing, which has added 700,000 jobs since 2010. really helped to bring back some of the higher paying jobs. so it's been key to restoring the economy and the economic recovery. having said that, he has to walk a fine line. of course, this is a strong report but a lot of americans saying they still don't feel the results of the economic roefr recovery. this comes at a good time for the president. he's been dealing with a number of crises from fighting isis to ebola. also, the secret service

scandal. so, this is a good news story for the president. one white house official saying he would like to be talking about the economy every day. and, of course, this is the last jobs report before the midterm election. so, that is why this is so critical. democrats fighting to hold onto the senate. the question is, will this help some democrats who are in really close races? i've been talking to political analysts throughout the day. they say it's not clear. it's certainly going to be welcome news for them but will it help them to win their races? that remains unseen. this is something that allows them to not distance themselves from the president when it comes to the economy at least. krystal? >> i'm sure, any bit of good news is there. >> reporter: absolutely. >> this briefing now expected at 4:30 on the government's response to ebola here in america. what do we expect to hear from them there? >> reporter: lisa monaco, the president's adviser on homeland security, will be leading that briefing. i'm told one of their goals is to answer questions, of course, and also to really calm fears,

to reiterate the idea that ebola is not easy to catch. government has directed the faa/dhs to step up screenings at the airports throughout the country, particularly for those coming in from areas where we have seen high infection rates. also an effort to educate people nationwide about how to protect themselves from ebola. also, the fran structure for dealing with this disease here in the united states is very strong. we've seen those two patients treated here and they did recover. of course, the president announced he was sending 3,000 u.s. forces to the region to help fight the effort in liberia. we're told 4,000 could ultimately go over. those will be key topics when we hear from lisa monaco and other senior administration officials at about 4:30. >> nbc's kristin welker, thank you very much, as always. as we wait for the president to take the stage in princeton,

indiana. we're joined by our duo. jared bernstein, you wrote an interesting article. you wrote it before the numbers came out. here we are, 5.9% unemployment rate but still most people aren't feeling like the economy is very good. why is that? >> the point of my "new york times" piece was that there's more slack in the job market than that 5.9% rate would tell you. that has to do with a couple of things you discussed already. the u.s. labor force participation is low. part of the reason it's low is because we have an older labor foes than we used to. there are retirees. that part is kind of benign. long-term weakness in the job market is still persistent and there's still slack. it's one of the reasons, even while we had what is, i think, clearly a positive jobs report. i mean, the recovery is reliably

showing up in these job numbers month after month. the slack shows up in the wage story, which is very big for people's sentiment about the economy. not to mention their living standards. wages have been quite flat. growing just about at the rate of inflation. >> yeah, peter, give us your thoughts there on what level -- how benign that labor participation rate is, to jared's point. also, have you to look at all this, as we look at a week where we've had the obamacare anniversary, we have these numbers that aren't good enough but much better, and all of that in an environment where the president has had to deal with the congress who doesn't want to pass much and has done spending cuts, too boot. this is definitely a better economic environment for the president going into midterms than a lot of people would have predicted a couple years ago. >> it is exactly what economists predicted. i think most economists expected the economy to be performing better than it is. to put the labor force participation rate in context,

if we had the same labor force participation rate as when mr. obama took office, the labor rate would be above 10%. we haven't made a whole lot of progress in terms of reducing the actual rate. instead, we have a lot of discouraged people sitting on the couch. while there are more retired people, it's also a fact that the men between ages of 25 and 54, their participation rate is very low. one out of every six men between 25 and 54 do not have a -- does not have a job. as a consequence, if those people are out looking, again, the unemployment rate would be well above 10%. >> let's pause on that because all the numbers you're throwing out. you're saying basically that's concerning because a lot of young people aren't so much finding jobs as not looking? >> that's right. i mean, once you get to 25, you're really past the college age and graduate school age by and large, unless you're a medical student. we're not seeing enough opportunity. the bottom line is, the economy would have to be generating about 400,000 jobs a month to

make a dent in that. now, are we doing better than we were three and four years ago? absolutely. the question is, how much better will it get? the federal reserve has lower its growth estimates going forward too something in the range of about 2.5% to 3%. so, it kind of skates, this is as good as it gets. this isn't good enough. this is not to blame mr. obama. or to blame the republicans. but it does say we have to step back and say, what else can we do? now, jared and i might disagree -- >> i feel like -- >> first of all, look, to suggest the unemployment rate would somehow be 10% is getting funny with the numbers. i agree. in fact, was emphasizing the point that the slack in the job market suggests a higher unemployment rate than 5.9%. nothing like 10%. economists have tried to do a very careful taking apart of the

decline in the labor force. the labor force is down 3 percentage points since its peak. two of those percentage points are assigned to what i was calling benign factors. one of them is to cyclical weakness. about a third of the decline in the labor force i would ascribe factors peter was called sitting on your couch. we all agree the economy has room to grow. i think we all agree it's moving in the right direction. from today's report it's doing better than we thought it was. last month we would have been e bemoaning a weak -- >> if you go back and look at what forecasters were doing, which has a reasonable representation of democrats and republicans, they were all looking at a bit over 200,000 in terms of jobs creation this year. we're doing about that. maybe 20,000 more. but nothing to light off firecrackers about. >> well, you know -- >> it continues to be a problem. >> no, i agree with that. >> so let's not -- >> hold on. i agree with that.

i don't think calling for monthly job numbers of like 400,000 or something is a realistic counterfactual. i think that gets you into land where the fed would quite quickly slam on the brakes. >> hold a minute. >> you know, i think you guys are actually saying some of the similar things here but, peter, jared, stay with us. the reality is many americans are still not feeling the recovery. 6 in 10 remain dissatisfied with the stated of the economy. james galbraith, from school of public affairs at ut austin and his new book "end of normal" says in part because our expectations are stuck in the past and policies need to be designed to deal with current instability. let's get right to it. we were just talking to those two men about the economy. why is our concept of normal the problem? what are we getting wrong here? >> well, the basic problem is that we build our concept of what to expect on the whole post-war record.

i would say even as early as 2000 and even 2007 that record is no longer relevant. we're encounter much more difficult conditions so that, yes, it's true that the current news is pretty good news. and it would be excellent news for -- in comparison with what's going on, let's say n europe. but it is still -- represents a situation which is far more difficult than we experienced in most of the post-war period. >> what is wrong with our normal? give us a sense of what you're laying out? >> i would say basically four things. the resource situation is much more difficult and much more problematic, allowing for the big exception, which is very important here, of natural gas. secondly, the world economic situation is far less secure. less uncertain going forward in the post-war period. new technologies save a lot of labor and make it so the private business has many more opportunities not to hire workers as it expands than

before. and fourthly, the financial system is broken after 2007 and has not really been repaired. so, the source of private credit creating jobs in private business is simply not institutionally as sound as it was in the post-war pardon. >> jared bernstein was pointing out the fact that wage growth has been incredibly sluggish, barely keeping up with inflation, essentially. is that part of the problem in the new normal, some factors conspireing to keep wage growth low? >> workers have very little effective power over their wages. if we raise the minimum raise very substantially, that would make a significant difference. you would get some benefit out of that but we haven't done it. >> i want to bring jaered and peter back in here. jared, i i'll start with you for the sunny side and then go to peter for the dark side. let's forward looking. the holidays are right around the corner. what do these current job

numbers tell you about retail sales? if you look at a recent report out by deloitte, they say it will increase by 4% to 4.5%. are more people likely to shop this year? >> i've heard those kinds of positive forecasts. i'm suspicious. these wage constraints are real. and if people's incomes are just growing at the rate of inflation, the only way they can actually finances more consumption, more buying of christmas goodies and all that is through borrowing. and, in fact, credit lines are still tight as well. so, i think we'll see improvement in months to come as we've had. we have some momentum. but i don't think it's going to be over the moon. >> peter, what do you say? more optimistic, peter? surprise us. >> i'm about where jared is. there are too many people that aren't working so they won't have a lot of money to spend. those that are working, they're

not seeing their wages go up a lot. there's a couple of troublesome signs that could dour consumer expectations. one is that the appreciation in housing is falling off and people look at that as a significant barometer. i'm hopeful that -- now, we're going to get not so great retail sales numbers in the next week or two, but beyond that i'm hopeful we'll have a decent holiday season and that it will look a little better than next year. but that's about it. >> can i make one comment on jamie's points because they're so interesting. >> yeah, that's really interesting. >> one thing. i think of his factors that he laid out as to why the economy's not doing so well, there's an important one missing. jamie is a very smart and good friend of mine. >> no, bring it. >> we've had terrible fiscal policy. especially if you look at last year. this year it's kind of neutral but last year it took a point and a half off growth. that's like a million jobs. i don't think you can forget about the really serious policy

mistakes. >> yeah, we've been relying on the fed to essentially do everything. >> they can't do it all by themselves. >> we have to take a quick break. stay with us. we continue to wait for the president to take the stage for an economic town hall in indiana. we will listen in when we come back in three minutes

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@p . we're awaiting the president who will be addressing the nation from a millennial steel processing plant and town hall in princeton, indiana. the ceo of the processing plant is introducing him. let's go to that. >> i'm happy my family, and

especially my grandkids, tyrese, tirea and my man jackson are here today. and now it is my honor to introduce the 44th president of the united states of america, president obama. ♪ >> hello, everybody. hello, indiana. it's good to be back close to home. everybody have a seat. have a seat. first have all, let me thank henry and everybody, you know, for extending such a warm welcome.

it's good to be back in indiana. a couple people i want to acknowledge quickly. your mayor. where did he go? there he is. give him a big round of applause. got your former congressman, brad ellsworth in the house. say hi to brad. it is great to be back in indiana. it's great to be in princeton. and i want to thank millennium steel for hosting us today. i'm here because you might have heard today is national manufacturing day. you don't get the day off on national manufacturing day. but factors like this one all over the country are opening their doors to give young people a chance to understand what opportunities exist in manufacturing in the 21st century in the united states of america.

so i figured what better place to celebrate manufacturing day than with a manufacturer. and instead of giving a long speech, what i want to do today is just have a conversation with folks about what's happening in the american economy. what's happening in your lives. what's happening in manufacturing. and to talk a little bit about how we can continue to build an economy that works for everybody. it gives everybody who's willing to work hard a chance. and i wanted to do that here because in some ways american manufacturing is powering the american recovery. this morning we learned last month our businesses added more than 236,000 jobs. [ applause ] the unimpmentd rate, unemployment rate fell from 6.1% to 5.9%.

what that means is that the unemployment rate is below 6% for the first time in six years. and we're on base for the strongest job growth since the 1990s. strongest job growth since the 1990s. over the past 55 months our businesses have now created 10.3 million new jobs. now, that happens to be the longest uninterrupted stretch of job growth in the private sector in american history. and all told, the united states has put more folks back to work than europe, japan and all other advanced economies combined. all combined, we put more folks back to work right here in the united states of america.

so this progress we've been making, it's been hard. it goes in fits and starts. it's not always been perfectly smooth or as fast as we want, but it is real and it is steady and it is happening. and it's making a difference in economies all across the country. and it's the direct result of the best workers in the world. the drive and determination of the american people, the resilience of the american people bouncing back from what was the worst financial crisis since the great depression. and it's also got a little bit to do with some decisions we made pretty early on in my administration. just to take an example, many of you know the auto industry was, you know, really in a bad spot when i came into office. and we decided to help our

automakers to rebuild, to retool. they're now selling new cars at the fastest rate in about eight years. and they're great cars, too. and that's helped a lot of communities all across the midwest. and that's just one example of what's been happening to american manufacturing generally. about 10, 15 years ago everybody said american manufacturing is going downhill. everything is moving to china or other countries. and the midz west got hit a lot harder than a lot other places because we were the backbone of american manufacturing. but because folks invested in new plants and new technologies, and there were hubs that were created between businesses and universities and community colleges so that workers could get mastered and train in some of these new technologies, what

we've now seen is manufacturing driving the economic growth in a way we haven't seen in about 20, 25 years. because of the efforts we've made, manufacturing as a whole has added about 700,000 new jobs. it's growing twice as fast as the rest of the economy. new factories are opening their doors. more than half of manufacturing executives said they're actively looking to bring jobs back from china. our businesses are selling more goods overseas than any time in our history. and the reason this is important is not just because of some abstract statistic. manufacturing jobs have good pay and good benefits and they create a ripple effect to the whole economy because everybody who's working here at millennium steel, because you're getting paid well, because you got decent benefits, that means that the restaurants in the

neighborhood are doing better. means you can afford to make your mortgage payments and buy a new car yourself and buy some new appliances and you get a virtuous cycle in which all businesses are doing better. to most middle class folks the last decade was defined by those jobs going overseas. but if we keep up these investments, then we can define this decade as a period instead of outsourcing, insourcing. bringing jobs back to america. and when you ask business executives around the world, what's the number one place to invest their money right now, foir a long time it was china. today they say the best place to invest money is here in the united states of america. here in the united states of america. >> you're listening to the president make remarks on the economy and manufacturing at a steel processing plant in indiana. the full town hall is streaming now at msnbc.com.

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right now we're awaiting an ebola update from the president's top adviser on the growing pandemic. in texas the quarantined family of ebola patient duncan is finally getting their home decontaminated. in about an hour the president's point person for homeland security and his hhs secretary and heads of usaid, national institutes of health and the military general seeing the deployment of nearly 4,000 troops to africa, all of those folks will brief from the white house briefing room. back in dallas, it's been one week since duncan first went to the hospital and was sent back home. private contractor is now cleaning the apartment. crews should be wrapping this hour. but the family under quarantine will not be moved until the

process is complete. nbc's charles hadlock is outside the ivy departments in dallas. the cdc told andrea mitchell there's no excuse for leaving the family inside with the waste while awaiting federal transportation permits. what are conditions like inside this apartment? >> reporter: a lot of people are wondering the same thing. why it took five days from the time they knew that this ebola patient was staying at this apartment unit until today when hazmat crews show up to clean it. they said it was paperwork jish. they had to get proper federal and state permits. nevertheless, the clean-up is under way right now. a private company is inside that apartment unit scrubbing it down, decontaminating everything this man may have touched and way all the sheets and towels and maybe, perhaps, the carpet that was in this place that the man walked on. five people, four people still in the apartment complex, family members of this man. they have been in essence quarantined by the state. they've been told not to accept

visitors and not to leave. late today we understand that they will be moving from this apartment complex after the clean-up is under way. they'll be taken ton an undisclosed location according to dallas city officials. they will not tell us where they're taking them. they will not be going to medical facility. they're moving out of this apartment complex just to relieve the fears of the nearby residents here. back to you. >> charles hadlock in dallas, thanks for that report. the pentagon is prepping to send up to 4 neu american troops into west africa where the ebola outbreak is out of control. five people are falling planned. five people are falling ill from the virus every hour, including an american freelance

. >> spray down and disinfect a car. and he wasn't wearing full protective equipment. he thinks he might have gotten a splash on his body. so, he thinks it was that. but he had so much different contact. he was in the clinicses filming a lot and he really was careful and trying to be cautious with wearing protective equipment, but he doesn't remember exactly when it was. >> so far no one else from the nbc team has shown signs of infection. they'll head home for 21 days of self-quarantine. >> once he was symptomatic, we only spent a few hours together. we were in a work space when he said he wasn't feeling well. he joined us 72 hours earlier as an independent journalist and had been in the hospital -- had been in the country two weeks prior to that.

so, my suspicion is he was infected before we met him and then he became symptomatic once we met him. we shared a work space. we shared vehicles. we shared equipment. but everyone here is hyperalert. >> dr. nancy snyderman's team was in liberia, tracing how the patient now in dallas might have been infected back in liberia. >> reporter: this is the front door of mr. duncan's apartment that he was renting in this small hamlet. the pink house across the courtyard where the young woman, pregnant and now infected with ebola, was calling for help and he responded. >> for more let's bring in dr. cory ebar, from tulane medical center. we know a few days after helping that infected woman in liberia duncan boarded a flight via brussels and d.c. now a possible ebola patient who traveled to nigeria. another person in atlanta who also traveled to africa. there are calls from congress for better screening once the

flights land. what can we do better in the united states to keep the rest of us safe? >> i tell you what, as i've said before, if ebola becomes a huge problem in the united states, it's not going to be because of the virulence of that virus. it's going to be lack of communication between those agencies. what has happened now between the cdc and d.o.t. is unacceptable. we know we need better screening when people come into the country. but there will be no positive way for us to screen everyone that comes into this country for ebola. so, what we must do on the ground is to make sure that our nurses, our medical office assistants, our doctors and our federal agencies are working together in concert to make sure that these things don't fall through the cracks as both of these situations have exhibited. we know that the guy came to the hospital and then the nurse and doctor didn't communicate. now the cdc and d.o.t., they are

not communicating. that is not acceptable. >> doctor, one thing i realized this week is we don't have a surgeon general confirmed by the senate for over a year now. we haven't had a surgeon general because of pressure from the nra kept the senate from confirming the president's nominee. that makes a difference in a situation like this where the public is nervous, they're frightened. they want someone to speak to them and tell them what the reality of the risk is. i spoke with former surgeon general regina benjamin about the importance of having a surgeon general in place at a time like this. and she said the surgeon general is america's doctor delivering information to the american people in a language they can understand. not having one right now, you don't have that face and that person that the american people can identify with as their doctor looking out for them on a large scale. is that a piece of why we have a lot of misinformation out there and misunderstanding among the american public about ebola? >> well, i think it's at all

levels. i mean, we're all out here, doctors are working day and night, trying to get the information out. but is there one voice that's united? all we have is the cdc. that's why it's so important these agencies work together. we do not have a surgeon general right now. but the rumor mill has started. the myths have started. everything is starting in that particular way because people are nervous and scared, as you have said. however, there are certain things that will not waiver. what is that? you cannot get this by just casual contact. it is sweat. it is actually semen, all types of things that are actual bodily fluids. have you to deal with that and that's the biggest problem. >> which is why we have one case in the u.s. we've heard it's very unlikely, but as you say, this can pass from sweat alone. it's disconcerting to think of another case in the united states, after seeing what happened in dallas with duncan. first, ayou were mentioning,

being able to leave the hospital when they knew he had just come back from africa. now seeing it's been five days until they've been able to clean the apartment while four members of the family are still there. what is the protocol if there is another case in the u.s.? >>. >> what will happen is the cdc will mobilize forces and go to that place. we have to look at the index case. see who came in contact with that person. once we do that, we have to go through methodically and see where did that person go and where did the people go that actually came in contact with him. it's like a detective thing more than doctor work because once again we can take care of patients that have the ebola virus. people that come here, they don't die from the ebola virus. they die when they're in other places that don't have the infrastructure. we have the infrastructure. the problem is, we can't treat anything if we don't know it exists. that's where communication comes. >> doctor, love having on you

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the mission to combat isis in syria and iraq continues with six air strikes in syria and three in iraq over the last two days. now the coalition hit isis tanks, oil refineries and some occupied buildings. a crucial syrian town called kobani, that town remains in trouble. kurds there are alleging they're surrounded now by isis fighters. they fear a massacre is on the way. that seems like evidence that bombing by u.s.-led forces hasn't done enough to stop isis's advance toward some of those areas near the turkish border. some wonder where is turkey in all this this is why aren't they getting more involved on the ground? today australia's mrm announced they are spend sending essential forces and fighter jets to join the anti-isis fight but only in

iraq and not syria. that seems to be a theme from major allies. support with a catch. many americans wondering should europe be doing more? for what a sense of what other allies are thinking about all of this, we have a reporter from dutch tv who just got -- you just joined us, got off a plane from amsterdam. welcome. >> thank you. >> let's start with that question, that caveat. we have this support. there's a clear line about iraq and not necessarily syria. why is that and will it evolve? >> there is definitely a catch. they say yes over iraq and no over syria. they basically go back to 2003. for instance, the dutch, were very eager to help in iraq. then they felt betrayed, suckered into it, the wmd. there were parliamentary talks, reports, saying we went too far. this time around parliament

says, yes, government, you can go but not too far. can you go to iraq because they asked for supported but we're not going to syria because they didn't ask and we don't negotiate with the syrians. you set a caveat, a catch. i'm going out on a limb because as a euro you're not supposed to talk about football. my american in-laws say you never lose the game in the last five minutes. you lose in the first quarter and then lose in the fourth. the u.s. made a bad move for euros in the first quarter in 2003. we felt like you went out on a limb and went too far. the second time when there's a real reason, everyone wants to fight isis but we feel we shouldn't go too far because then we'll end up in the same situation as ten years ago. we don't want to be there. >> there's a lot of history there. from just coming back from europe, is it your sense our european allies are proud to fight alongside the united states like we're a bigger brother in a sensor is there a bit of a reluctancy? >> there's pride like the

smaller countries, belgium, holland. they love to answer yes. when america is calling and the cause is clear and clear bad guys, its the little guy in the classroom helps fighting the big guy, the bully, and the bully is isis. the dutch, we like to say yes right away. the f-16s we're sending, we like to think of them as a plug-in air force. you put out the sticker on the tail of the f-16, the american sticker, you put on the dutch flag instead of the american flag. our dutch pilots have been trained in america, texas and nevada, even married american women as their wives. we're like interchangeable, almost. that's what they think. what better place to showcase our air force in these kind of sort of contained conflicts. not even wars but sort of a fight against a true evil. >> and it's not like the u.s. is lacking in military strength and force and fighter pilots. is the more important piece the

actual having the european's military backing in a huge way or is it more important symbolically to have the show of force that we have this large coalition of allies united front against isis. >> let's face it, you don't really need us. we're sending eight f-16s. the belgiums are sending some. even the daynes, denmark is sending f-16s. that means you have broad support. not only support in middle east from jordan yans, saudi arabia, other local partners but support in western europe. it's good. in the ten years i've been here, but go back home, i've never met a person at home that says, we understood bush, where he was going. they never said that. with obama they feel like, we have a redo now but we're thinking of that caveat you brought up earlier. we want to help but we don't want to get suckered into it. if there's room to help, we'll help. >> using the military as a real way to say symbolically across the world, it's the world against isis.

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"flying wallendas" your great grandfather is an amazing man. but as you know, in 1978 he was in san juan and did something similar, walking on a tight rope ten stories high from one building to another and fell to his desds. in 2011 you did that walk with your mother, avenging him or making it right. but once again you are doing the same thing that led to your great grandfather's death do. you think about that? >> i do. but it comes down to training. our family has learned from that accident. that one in particular, it wasn't the wind. but the truth is the wire is rigged improperly. if you watch the video, he went down to the safety of that wire. since i was two i was trained to go down to that wire. i train to hang on for 20 minutes. i practice falling. i have rescue crews that can be

to me within 09 second was. my great grandfather was 73 years old. >> when you are doing this, do you feel more alive and pumped up or is it like it is something you are practiced at. >> it is life. so it isn't something. is it more of an art to me. but that's why i add challenges and continue to challenge myself. this walk in chicago i'll be walking up hill at a 15-degree incline. >> and it could be cold. >> it could be snowing. >> it all comes down to training. i have trained with winds of 120 miles an hour in my training facility. i'm prepared for whatever i will face movement father is the head safety coordinator. if the winds are over 55 or 60 miles an hour even though i have

trained in 90 plus he won't let me get on the rope. >> 30 is my line. >> i mean, even though i train in 90. 30 is where i drop. >> have you seeked out these thrills in your whole life or just this direction? >> chicago is something that has been in the works for years now. niagara falls was in the works for years. we had to change two laws. >> you got our government to do something? i guess -- >> what? >> bury the lead here, guys. >> what do you think of david blaine who gets a lot of attention and done amazing tricks and he was like just put me in a box and i'm going to stay in the box and everyone's like that's not cool, brave, or magic. >> he is a good buddy of mine. i'm fascinated with people who dedicate their lives to anything.

you know, the guy can hold his breath for 14 or 15 minutes. >> is that harder than what you do? >> it takes dedication. >> you have three kids. you started at two. are they going to continue it? >> none of them look like they want to carry on the family legacy. i'm okay with that. >> you're going to do this walk with no net. >> that's right. >> why no net? >> a net can prove as a false sense of security. my great grandfather. we had an uncle that bounced into a net and bounced out and killed. just because you have a net -- i believe you tend become more complacent. you go it's okay. i have a net right there. i know i have to train in 09-mile-an-hour winds and train for endurance five times the

distance. so you train hearder. >> that is incredible. what i would pay to have you do this. >> a lot of this and talking and never step out over the building. building. >> nik wallenda, fascinating stuck. we will be cheering you on. >> thank you much. this does not hold a candle to your blindfolded tight rope walk. i went skydiving out of a plane. take a look. >> oh, my gosh. i don't know -- >> thank you. thank you. what do i do with -- >> oh, my gosh. so frightening. you can check out the video of my adventure online. we'll be right back with the final word.

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