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sir, thank you so much for being here tonight. real pleasure to have you here. >> thank you. >> that does it for us tonight. "weekends with alex witt" starts now. changing his story, a live report is next. and then a live report from dr. nancy snyderman, and they are heading back to the u.s. good news on the jobs front. for the first time in years the unemployment rate dips below one big threshold but there is more to the good news picture. alarm on the harvard campus. why will there be increased police presence today? could it all be a big hoax?
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good morning, everyone. new at the hospital, officials now say nurses and doctors there knew he had just come from liberia, and originally they said nobody knew that fact because of a computer glitch. after his first visit the patient was released. two other significant moves in the case. health officials clean the apartment where he stayed with his girlfriend and three others, and officials have said ten people in texas are now considered most at risk of contracting the virus. in washington, top white house officials from the health department suppressed the national response to ebola is under control. >> there were things that did not go the way they should have in dallas, but there are a loft things that went right and are going right. >> every ebola outbreak over the past 40 years has been stopped. we know how to do this. and we will do it again. >> is the latest attempt by the
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white house to tell americans that an outbreak on u.s. soil is extremely unlikely, and charles hadlock is in dallas for us. what more can you tell us about the revelation from the hospital after standing by the original claim there was a computer glitch. >> reporter: yeah, they said it was a computer flaw that the doctors and nurses use, and it was a communication problem where the nurses took down the information that they took down that he had travelled from africa, and then there was a statement that there was no flaw in the software programs, and the patient's full travel history was available to both the doctors and the nurses at the same time, and there was no further explanation about why that was not used in the diagnosis on friday a week ago,
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alex. >> it seems impossible that nurses and doctors wouldn't verbally communicate this kind of information -- >> yeah, absolutely. the whole thing has been difficult from the start. where is the family right now? >> reporter: they have been moved out of their apartment. yesterday a professional cleaning crew, a hazmat crew came into clean the apartment, and they still have work to do there. meanwhile the family has moved. the city of dallas and the county here have been working, trying to find a place for them to move. they contacted apartment houses, hotels, nobody would take them. and finally the county judge here which is the county administrator contacted the faith community here and they found somebody that was willing to loan a house to them so they have been moved to a gated community in a house away from any other house, and that's where they are living here. the county judge escorted them out of the apartment last night and drove them to their new
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temporary home and along the way, the judge asked one of the boys who was riding along if they needed anything, and the boy said, yeah, i would like a basketball, so the judge promised they would deliver a basketball, and last night the judge in a televised press conference tried to reassure the public that everything is safe. here is what he had to say. >> i am a married man with a little girl who will have her ninth birthday next week, okay? i am wearing the same shirt i was when i was in the car with that family. if there are any risks, i would not expose myself or my family to that risk, but there is zero risk, and these people are asim p asymptomatic, and there's zero risk of that. >> reporter: they will be provided food and other refreshments, and also the school district here is providing laptops and portable
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wi-fi for kids to stay connected during the 20 days or so they are isolated from the rest of the public. >> pretty extraordinary move there by the judge there driving them on his own and making that public statement. thank you, charles. also new today the freelance photo journalist working with nbc news who tested positive for ebola is to arrive back in the u.s. sometime this weekend. he was working with our crew, including dr. nancy snyderman, and she filed this report. >> all week here we have been following strict safety protocols and spraying our shoes with bleach and keeping our hands sanitized, and taking our temperature three times a day, and our cameraman was also taking these precautions. he is a 30-year-old photo
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journalist from rhode island who has been working for several news organizations. on tuesday we hired him to work with us. on wednesday evening, he said he was not feeling well. a routine check showed his temperature was elevated. he quickly sought medical treatment. on thursday, a test showed he was positive for the ebola virus. he reached out to his parents. >> he texted me and he said, dad, you need to answer the phone. i think i am in trouble. and i immediately knew. >> he is currently under self quarentine in the care of doctors without borders, and he is in good spirits. he will be taken to the university of nebraska medical center for treatment. the ebola outbreak has made taking precautions here a way of life now. officials are vigilant about taking temperatures at the airport, or even between towns. in hotels, guests are encouraged
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to wash their hands in vats of breach, and greetings are done at a distance, no handshakes or hugs, and for health care workers layers of protective equipment are required and it's a pain staking process. and after visiting a local clinic we were brought into a room where very slowly and carefully our protective suits, masks and goggles were removed piece by piece and then they were thoroughly dowsed with a bleach solution and then ensign rated. but even a small break in these protective efforts can be an opportunity for the virus to spread. >> dr. nancy says everybody on her team is doing well and they will be returning to the u.s. we will have a lot more on the ebola outbreak for you, and i will talk to the head of the director of allergies and
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diseases. a preschooler who died more than a week ago was sick with enterovirus. the 4-year-old is the first child with enterovirus to die in new jersey. according to cdc, more than 500 people in 43 straits have come down with the virus. and then a message was sent around 5:00 p.m. and includes a detailed threat for a mass shooting planned for today. recipients of the e-mail say it was poorly written and racially charged and sent mostly to asian women. it's not clear whether the threat is credible but they are increasing patrols and working with the fbi to investigate. a woman in sweden has given birth to a baby born to a trance plated womb.
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the mother was born with ovaries but without a uterus, and her baby boy was born prematurely but they are happy and healthy at home. a four-day heat wave is sizzling southern california, and temperatures reaching as high as 106 degrees. say what? you have looked at the calendar? come on, what are we looking at here in california and the rest of the country? >> maybe this will make you feel better, los angeles may be getting up to 97 degrees, but it has been hotter downtown, and the record for los angeles is 108. it has been hotter, but heat advisory is up. it has been ridiculously hot and dry out here. we have water problems and record warmth and more. watch the numbers today fresno, 98, and los angeles 97, and even through tomorrow it comes down just a little bit, 90s and 100s, and death valley, 103.
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and same thing on monday as the heat continues. usually where you have hot you have cold somewhere else, and that's in the east. a big jet stream that steers things around and it's steering the cold air east now, and out ahead of the front, though, moisture coming north, new york city, boston, and into the interior of the northeast and new england, and moisture is around and it looks like a damp day through midday, and the rain is needed in boston and new york. since september 1st, almost 2 inches in boston, and next to about 3 inches below where we should be this time of year, and some rain improving weather coming in. immediately after islamist militants killed al fourth western inner, and they named a new hostage. and it's not often these two
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charges are being considered against the patient himself, and why is because he may have lied about where he had been and that put his family and others on risk. they are living in a new home this morning, not because of health fears but because their previous neighbors has been scared to have them around. >> it has been tough because nobody wanted them, okay? and so somebody was kind enough to offer up a private residence. >> and hazmat crews spent time cleaning that apartment five days after duncan was rushed to the hospital, and none of it happened sooner because of the paperwork nightmare they encountered trying to deal with ebola. >> we as a country don't have time to do it by trial and error and we need to have systems in a box for this ready to go. >> 50 people who came into contact with duncan are being monitored by the cdc teams, and
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this is one of the lady that visits people on the list. >> the questions we normally ask, are you having a headache or fever or is anybody feeling under the weather. >> so far, nobody has answered yes. >> the united states has the most capable health kaecare infrastructure. united states is prepared to deal with this crisis. >> some experts say what is happening in dallas shows weaknesses in the system. >> it has ripped the covers off about the assumptions we have made with the readiness to deal with this disaster. >> reporter: one of the biggest questions here, how was it duncan went to an er a week ago and was sent back home. the hospital told us there was a flaw in their computer system and when nurses asked him if he had been to africa, and they put
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it in the computer and only nurses could see it and doctors couldn't see that information, and that's what they told us yesterday and now the hospital this morning reversing itself and saying no, there was no flaw and everybody on the team could see the patient had been in africa, and that raises the question why was he sent home. >> i am incredulous. the doctors and nurses, they wouldn't communicate with each other and straightforward talking with each other, and it defies logic, frankly. >> reporter: i have had people say it's a friday in an emergency room, and people are passing shifts, you don't know. to be honest with you the hospital has not clarified any of this with us so we don't know. >> thank you so much. let's go from there to washington, and two congressional foes crossing each other. oversight committee chairman
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darrell issa and senator cummings, they are calling for a broader investigation of the agency. joining me is congressman elijah cummings. what specifically are you asking for this in letter to secretary johnson? >> we don't want him to limit the investigation on the fence jumping on the 19th. this is much broader. we have a culture problem. we have complacency. we have a situation where there is more training needed and there has been a reduction in training, and we have a morale problem, and we have the security breaches. so it seems to be a pattern here, and i actually believe that the pattern goes far back, probably even beyond 2011. so we need to look into that
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culture situation because we have a situation now, alex, where you have secret service agents who don't feel comfortable coming to their superiors with their problems but rather would go to members of congress and from this kind of agency, alex, that's not good. >> sounds like in terms of the resignation, the buck does not stop with the resignation of pierson, and so do you think it needs to go higher up the change? >> these problems did not start with the director and they will not end with her resignation. i think that we are going to have to take a clear look, and that's why we sent a letter to secretary johnson, and we are going to have to have a clear look from the top to the bottom to try and figure out what is going on in this organization. this is a transformational moment, alex. i say that and what i mean is that we have now seen some of the problems with this agency, but you know what i am really
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worried about, al next i am worried about what we have not seen. we are talking about the president of the united states' family, and all the other people the secret service have to guard, we need to make sure we get it right and we don't have room for error because error can lead to harm and death. >> as you are well aware, sir, the department of homeland security, it's a massive agency. is there any sense that this division may be getting lost in the bureaucracy? >> we are looking at this independent panel to look at it, and we want to see whether it was a mistake after 9/11 to transfer it from treasury to homeland security. you are right, it's very big. another thing we have to look at is we have to figure out whether
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the secret service is doing too many things, and they do many things beyond guarding the president and his family. we may have to reduce its responsibilities and shift some of its other responsibilities over to other agencies, but this is a transformational moment. if we do not take advantage of this and we do not address the problems and they have a clear look and address the problems, it can only get worse. >> there is always the fear of an assassination attempt on the president and that fear is higher given that president obama is our first african-american president. and this article from peter baker out on wednesday, it mentions he is not being better protected and some sharing suspicions it might be deliberate. talk about what you are hearing from your constituents? >> 80% of people that come to me and ask me, do you think this
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lack of security is because he is african-american, and no, i don't believe that. i think the problems go further than when president obama became president. it's just now you have the culture in the agency where the whistle blowers are telling all the things that are going on. we are going to be -- we are looking at information now, and it shows that these problems go way back. that will be coming out shortly. so that's why i said we have got to really dig deep. we have to have an expert independent panel to say, you know, these are the problems that we have to address. one other problem that they need to look at too, is technology. we don't even have the most recent technology, and it's amazing. i think sometimes people have better technology in their homes than at the white house. we have got some issues to deal with here. >> that is an issue if you are putting that out there, my heavens. can i ask how long you expect
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the investigation to take? >> hard to say. but i think the public should feel comfortable that mr. clancy has taken over temporarily. this was the president's choice and in talking to the people closest to the president, they have the utmost confidence in him, and somebody told me who was close to the president that they believe the president and the first lady believes this man is one of the most competent people they know and he would take a bullet for them and that's a quote. >> i should know that mr. clancy was over our comcast security here at nbc, and we are glad he is on the job there as well. thank you and always good to see you. >> thank you. t well now you can bake as few or as many as you please. frozen and ready to bake, new nestlé toll house frozen cookie dough is made with
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. top officials in the obama administration are calming fears about ebola, and the health and
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human services secretary was grilled over the failure to prevent somebody from ebola from entering the u.s. here is part of that exchange. >> every step of the way there were breakdowns, and it broke down as the person back there was saying when he lied on the form and it broke down when the hospital turned him away, and it broke down when the materials that were in his apartment have not been thrown away, and it broke down -- i mean, it feels like to americans like you guys are up here talking about we have this great and perfect system that is going to be able to, you know, contain this virus because we have done all this preparation and yet it doesn't look like it's working, and so how does -- how should the regular average person have confidence that whether it's the case i howard or some case somewhere else at the moment that somebody is not being turned away there and somebody didn't get -- their temperature got taken in africa but not
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caught, and square the distphupbs between your confidence that things are working well. >> the american people should be confident for all the reasons the president has spoken to because the system we have is expert and is considerable, and the doctors has mentioned the situation in liberia could not be more opposite in terms of the public health infrastructure and the ability of officials there to immediately isolate an individual case. >> joining me now is the director of the national institute of algae and infectious diseases. with the welcome to you, i know you were at the news conference yesterday and can the american public be certain there is going to be no outbreak of ebola with all the missteps we have seen in
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dallas? >> we still feel strongly there will not be an outbreak. there were certainly missteps, and there were on a number of points, but there were also things done well. when you talk about what is the reason why we can say that we won't have an outbreak, and lisa just said it on the piece that you showed, and that is the health care infrastructure here, when you look at what is going on in africa and our ability of isolating and protecting our health care workers, and importantly in doing the contact tracing that would identify contacts and keep them under surveillance and possibly even quarantine so they don't spread it around, and we did see a misstep but that doesn't mean there will be an outbreak and
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they are two different things. >> the misstep can it be attributed to simple human error? i find it incredible doctors and nurses were not speaking about the fact this man had come from liberia in his first presentation, and my father is a doctor, and i have been in emergency rooms and they communicate and that's a piece of critical information. >> and it didn't happen and there is no excuse for that. the cdc put out several health networks, and it's saying is somebody comes in with systems suggestive of ebola you must take a travel history and communicate that travel history to the health care team that will make the decision as to the disposition of the patient. so the cdc is continuing to nail that at home. it didn't get through in this case, and what we are talking about now on national tv, i spent several years in an
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emergency room myself, and i can tell you that i doubt if there is any emergency room or clinical physician right now, today, who when a person comes in and says they have symptoms that are suggestive of ebola they won't ask them if they have been to west africa. on one hand it's misfortunate we had this, and now everybody is going to be heads up for now. >> you are right, learning from mistakes is valuable. let's talk about how many people you consider across the country are being tested for ebola? how many people could be infected? >> relatively few. i have people telling me i am getting on a plane tomorrow, and should i be concerned? absolutely not. what you have is a single person that has come into the country and had contact with a group of people, and some of them were
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close in high risk contacts, such as the people in the room with him and his girlfriend and the children, and also the ambulance people that took him and did not know at the time that he had ebola. there are also secondary contacts, and we throw out a wide net and they make a determination, is this person a contact or are they so far removed they don't need to be contacted. they will narrow it down to a smaller group who actually were at risk, and that's the group you monitor every day for 21 days to make sure you don't develop a fever or symptoms, and if they do, you test them for ebola and if they have it you put the protocol in the isolation and the treatment and taking care of them with what we have, and if they don't, then they are free to go, so there is not a broad dallas-wide risk
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there, and there's a very well confined group of people that are being carefully monitored by the cdc tracing group. >> all right, thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it, sir. >> you are welcome. turning overseas, the scene is tragically familiar. a set against a dark landscape, a beheading by an isis terrorists. he is the fourth western er killed in the last several months. richard, good morning. what do we know about this american still being held? >> reporter: we know a great deal about henning. there were many appeals from his family and moderate muslim leaders around the world for his release, and he was the one who
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was there to help, and he was a driver, and he was working with a aide convoy trying to deliver humanitarian relief, and this was hard core, and he was kidnapped and held for a considerable amount of time and beheaded. the next execution, according to the militants, could be an american, a very similar story, an american who was inside syria trying to provide relief. isis seems to be reveling in its brutality and promising more to come. allen henning was a british taxi driver driving an ambulance in syria when he was kidnapped and beheaded in a video that experts say appears genuine. earlier this week his wife pleaded for his life. >> please release him. we need him back home.
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>> he is the fourth western hostage to be killed by what looks like the same man with a heavy british accent. there were two american journalists, james foley and steven sock hrauf, and david haines. and the militant also talked about another american hostage. he went to syria to help victims of war. his parents say he changed his name after converting to islam while in captivity. in a statement president obama condemned the murders of all the hostages. standing together with a broad coalition of allies and partners, he said we will continue taking decisive action to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. the british prime minister said his government will seek justice. >> we will do everything we can to hunt down and find the people responsible for this. >> reporter: but the group also known as isis is still killing and still undefeated on the
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battlefield despite nearly two months of air strikes. alex, the fbi has said that it believes it knows the identity of the militant seen in the videos carrying out the executions, and it has not released his name to the public. military officials we have spoken to say they are looking for him. >> thank you, that's good. the latest from hong kong where activist are bracing for more violence after last night's outburst. your customers, our financing. your aspirations, our analytics. your goals, our technology. introducing synchrony financial, bringing new meaning to the word partnership. banking. loyalty. analytics. synchrony financial. enagage with us.
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we have more on the ebola emergency. top officials have been stressing there is virtually zero res zero risk to contracting the virus. how realistic is that? dr., welcome to you. we are hering over and over it's
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not an airborne disease, but what are the risks factors when it comes to things like sweat, sneezing or coughing? >> so to contract ebola you have to have direct contact with infective bodily fluids, and it's like feces and vomit and blood and urine. the virus would have to come into contact with your mucous membrane, your eyeballs and cheeks and that kind of area. what is causing so much fear here is a lack of health karen tpau structure there. there are not enough doctors and nurses to deal with the shear number of ebola cases, and patients are turned away and cared by family while they are infection and the chain of
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transmission goes on. >> we talked about sweat, sneezing and coughing? we hear about people carrying other people having ebola symptoms and they are sweating profusely because of the fever they have, and can you contract through those three elements? >> theoretically, yes, you are, however the virus is most concentrated in blood and feces and less concentrated in things like saliva and sweat. yes, so theoretically there is that risk but far lower in fluids like saliva and sweat. >> othe symptoms are just like the flu. how are hospitals distinguishing them from other illnesses? >> well, the key question to ask patients is you have had any
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travel history to west africa? you have had any exposure to somebody infected in ebola? that helps health care providers distinguish if this person could be at risk for the virus. >> a few minutes ago i spoke with a doctor from the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases, and he said he trusts the hospitals, despite the breakdown. >> the cdc set the guidelines and set them early in august asking all u.s. hospitals to gear up for this and to ask people about any travel to west africa, and what we are hearing from the hospital becomes more and more confusing by the day. first we heard the nurse took the history and didn't rely it, and then we heard the two electronic medical records were separate for nurses than doctors, and we heard that was
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not true either. we need transparency to understand what went wrong so that other u.s. hospitals can learn from the mistakes. i have to say that visiting local emergency rooms in dallas recently, we have heard from other local hospitals that they are geared up and automatically asking the screening questions because of the cdc guidelines. >> thank you so much for weighing in. we appreciate that. we are giving alive look at the violence in hong kong, which is halting government talks. the latest from the ground there when we come back. my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions. if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members, but it's open for everyone. there's not one way to do something. no details too small. american express open forum. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. this is charlie.
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one is did you add jobs and the participation rate, and both were added. there are ethnic groups seeing double digit unemployment. and this is fascinating. it's a 36-year low in terms of people participating in the workforce. 62.7% of people that can work are working. and during the downturn, suddenly somebody lost their job they never been the back and that has to do with wages, they adjusted their lifestyle or can't rationalize child care cost, and so women in particular are holding out and are not part of the workforce. >> say cheese in another economic indicator. what is that about? >> it's auld an off the grid, and so real time the cost of a bacon cheeseburger is up a year
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over year pretty significantly, almost 6% driven by beef costs, and up 16%, and bacon and cheese up, 8%, and only bread was down. the reason people like indicators like this is because they are real time, and you hear people don't expect inflation to rise, and some people say did you buy dinner last night? because it looks like it is. >> how about money boo-boo. are we talking halloween? >> yeah, and it's expected to have record spending over $7 billion, and it's a friday this year so that's big. grocery stores will pick up a quarter, and home depot and lows have decorations. look at the pet spending number, and we will put our pets in costumes. it's a friday night and it's an excuse to party. >> we will look out for that on
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giving you a live look at hong kong. as night falls in the city pro democracy activists bracing for more violence. one of the leading groups was forced to cancel talks scheduled with the government due to the violence. at least 18 people were injured in the brawl including six police officers. the police superintendent said among 19 people arrested at least eight have ties to organized crime leaving some to speculate that they were sent in by the government to insight violence. let's get more on the e-mail threat sent to five students. anthony miller from boston has
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the details. >> reporter: harvard police say they are stepping up patrols today. in the e-mail the author threatened to shoot up the campus this morning. >> it is very scary. we don't know what tomorrow is going to bring. >> reporter: those who received the threats say it was poorly written and racially charged. some are worried. >> i don't have too much concern. i'm sure the harvard police will manage it. >> reporter: along with an increased presence they say they have contacted the fbi. the university has sent e-mails to its community warning them of the threat. >> i think i just appreciate how they handled the situation. they are taking a lot of precaution to make sure students are aware. >> that was not anthony miller there. we want to note the school is open today. president obama is reaching
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out to immigration activists. the president spoke thursday evening toot the hispanic caucus saying he will act on immigration before the end of the year but not before the mid terms. >> when opponents are out there saying who knows what i'm going to need you to have my back. i'm going to need you to have my back. i need you to keep putting pressure on congress because no matter how bold i am nothing can do will be as comprehensive or lasting as a senate bill. >> joining me now is washington post congressional reporter ed okeefe. i know you were there and heard the president. talk about the response into room to what he said. did you get a sense the audience was with him in. >> to some extent i think they were thrilled he was there and showed up. he hadn't been at the dinner for three years despite the fact that hispanics were one of the
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biggest groups that support him. he vowed that he was going to take action at some point after the elections. ask them for their help. and was warmly received but heckled by at least one person who got kicked out of the room for yelling at him. and i think there is a lot of skepticism in the room but hispanics around the country saying this is a guy who ran for president in 2008. he made vows ever since. he has held meetings with hispanic lawmakers. why should he be believed. it is beginning to have an effect across the country. having talked to people who are working to register hispanic voters they say it is harder to get people to the point where they sign the paperwork and say they will vote. if you were signing up 8 to 12 people you are down to 3 to 6 in some pockets of the country.
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>> how crucial is the hispanic voting block to the democrats? >> it is crucial in several different ways. state by state it will help in places like colorado or arizona or florida where democrats expect that they would predominantly vote for them and potentially help gubernatorial, house, senate candidates in those states. but activists say it is equally important to get as many hispanic voting for whoever as possible because it continues to demonstrate to both parties that this is a voting block that is growing and a group that has to be taken seriously. there have been concerns with women issues or gays or lesbians take predominance over hispanics. continue to have incredible buying power, a young group of people so they will be around a long time and yet still haven't
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