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virus. meantime, a major isis advance that could radically change control of the conflict. we'll have an in depth look on how exactly the terror group raises its funds. plus new being shoulding poll numbers for sitting senator, just 29 days left. and iowa grabbing all the attention on iowa. good morning from washington. i'm luke russert. it's monday, october 6th, 2014. the breaking news in the ebola outbreak. the fifth american infected with ebola has just arrived for treatment. just moments ago, the ambulance carrying nbc freelance photographer ashoka mukpo arr e arrived at nebraska's bio containment unit. mukpo landed at omaha's eply field half an hour ago in a specialized medevac jet from west africa. his plane steered clear the main terminal and stopped in a remote part of the airport. that's where mukpo was taken to
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the hospital. mukpo tested positive, two days after being hired to work with nbc's chief medical editor dr. nancy snyderman. he contracted the virus before he began working with our nbc news team in liberia. walking on to the plane with some assistance, the plane made a refueling stop in bangor, maine, before arriving in omaha moments ago. mukpo's father says his son is eating and drinking on his own, which at this stage are some really good signs. >> i am so relieved that he is coming back to an environment where he can get the simplicity of medical care, which is intravenous fluids that really is life saving in the ebola virus. >> mukpo is being admitted at the same hospital where dr. was
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admitted for an upper respiratory infection but the cdc says he tested negative for ebola. joining me now to talk about all this is nbc's john yang. he joins us live from the omaha hospital where mukpo just landed. john, i saw the scene there. some folks in those bio hazard suits getting him on to the ambulance. what do we know? >> that's exactly right. i've noticed fact he was able to walk off the plane under his own power, even after that long flight, a good sign, i'm sure, that the doctors took note of. he did sit down on a stretcher once he got off the plane. now, he is here at the hospital and the bio containment unit. there are about 40 medical personnel, doctors, nurses, other technician, who are overseeing his care. we're told his first hours, his first day at the hospital, will be much like anybody else arriving for treatment. they're going to assess his condition, run a battery of tests, all to determine what kind of treatment to give him. since there is no fda approved
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regiment of drugs for this. this treatment will be sort of customized, individualized to this case. the doctors have been in touch with drug manufacturers trying to determine what the best drugs would be to fight this ebola in this case. of course, the doctors here at the nebraska medical center have a great deal of confidence, since they did treat dr. richard sacra in september successfully. he has no sign of the ebola virus, even though he does have this upper respiratory tract infection. also here at the hospital are mukpo's family, his friends, his girlfriend. they won't be able to have direct access to him, obviously, because he is in quarantine. but they will be able to see him by video conference. they'll be in a room down the hall from him and be able to
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talk to him. it's not quite as good as being able to touch him, but -- and to see him in person, but given where he was just 24 hours ago, it's a lot better now than it was then, luke. >> you can say that again. nbc's john yang from omaha, we appreciate it. the cdc says it is also closely monitoring 48 people who may have had contact with the ebola patient in dallas. thomas eric duncan's condition was downgraded to critical this weekend. family members in north carolina say doctors told them duncan is now on a respirator and receiving dialysis. duncan is the first person diagnosed with ebola in the u.s. the director of the cdc is briefing the president today. dr. frieden told the "today" show that experts are regularly testing everyone they believe duncan may have come in contact with. >> every single one of those 48 people was monitored yesterday. their temperatures were taken. none of them had symptoms. none had fever.
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the key here is to keep doing it every single day. >> so far, authorities say no one except dunk be has shown any signed except duncan. according to doctors is when most people would start feeling the effects of the virus. so today, tomorrow and wednesday, are crucial for their monitoring. now, nbc news has learned officials could deploy cdc workers to key u.s. airports where west african flight arrive. joining me now to talk about all this, dr. david hayman is a professor at the london school hygiene and tropical medicine. he's also worked for the world health organization and cdc. thank you so much for being on shot. >> good morning. >> good morning. the first question i want to ask you is we live in a very tech savvy world now where news travels faster than any time in our history. i've had relatives calling me this weekend, saying be careful. there's a possible ebola patient in a hospital, washington, d.c. some people reacting in shock that i took the metro subway
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train this weekend. is this being jooverblown or is this a real serious threat in the united states? >> well, you know, there have been ebola cases admitted to hospitals in europe in the past. in zurich and switzerland, there was a patient in the 1990s. it wasn't known she had ebola but they isolated her because they couldn't diagnosis and it didn't spread further. there's an excellent public health system in most countries that are industrialized. they have good hospital isolation technique and can prevent infections in hospitals. therefore, they can prevent the spread to health workers. at the same time, community activities are excellent in tracing contacts. >> and you've worked in west africa. tell us a little bit about why the virus spread so quickly there. that's why it's spread so quickly in that part of the world. >> well, don't forget, there
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have been over 25 ebola outbreaks in rural areas in africa before. and they were stopped in those rural areas where it's much easier to stop them because of good community organization, village chiefs, who can help organize the population, help them understand how to work to stop the outbreak. once the outbreak gets out of a rural area, such as happened this time, into an urban area, all those systems break down. it's very difficult to stop the spread. >> there's an idea by u.s. senator charles schumer that folks who come from west africa via airplane should be screened. their temperatures should be screened when they arrive. you think that's a good idea? >> well, it's been shown in the past that borders can't stop the spread of any infebruactious disease. whether it's corona virus or ebola. it's a false security to say that you can stop disease at
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borders. you can maybe find many people with fevers who are crossing borders. and some of them may have ebola. but many will be in the inc incubation period. and that will give a false security disease has stopped when it hasn't been. >> doctor, similar to that point is we're approaching flu season in the united states. a lot of people have similar symptoms to ebola which will just be more likely than not the common flu. how much of a problem will that be? is it people get these symptoms and they're so fearful about what they see on television. do hospitals run the risk of being overrun? >> if hospitals have the proper triage systems, they'll be able to identify people who have a fever and who have had contact in west africa or in the u.s. it's not a major difficulty, even though earlier in the
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stage, ebola does resemble other diseases. with a good history of the patient, finding where they've been in the previous two to three weeks, all that can be limited to a very few numbers of people who would be suspect. >> just to the mom who's watching right now or the dad who worries about their child, you know, riding the subway, going to an airport, going to a public food court. what's your message to them regarding ebola? >> ebola is only spread by close contact with the person's blood or body secretions and exkreegss. really, there's never been a virus which has been blood borne such as ebola in the past that has changed to one that can spread through the air. the message is, there's very little risk of becoming infected with the ebola virus through casual contact or being
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face-to-face. unless a person with ebola sneezes directly into the face of someone or unless that person touches a body secretion or body fluid of the person with ebola. >> doctor, thank you so much for your analysis and for reminding us how difficult it is to pick up ebola in an industrialized country that has proper sanitary conditions. if you're still have questions about fact versus fiction, risk versus prevention, msnbc is hosting another live twitter chat. an expert will answer your questions today. use #ebolaanswers. we hope to kind of calm down the fears we have out there. up next, the supreme court is about to open for business. ways expected to be an historic session for the justices. major cases that could be on the docket. those details next. a look at today's planner. president obama meets with financial regulators. and bill clinton is on the campaign trail. we'll talk more about his big
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the supreme court's new term begins just moments from now. it's the tenth for chief justice john roberts and could be the most mo men tus in decades. they attended mass, an annual ritual to begin the court's term. a number of issues that may become the court are still in limbo. reviewing whether to take up one of seven cases challenging marriage bans in five states. court could consider a challenge to the tax subsidies that make insurance more affordable for individuals who buy health care
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through the federal exchange. the justices are weighing whether to weigh the constitutionality of college admissions again this term. and the court could hear a challenge to the texas abortion law. on thursday, a federal court sided with supporters of the law. meaning 13 of the state's 20 remaining abortion clinics will be closed. among the cases already on the supreme court's docket, a case on whether violent images posted on facebook could constitute a true threat to others. also, a test of alabama redistricting. democratic lawmakers say the alabama legislature packed voters into few districts reducing their power in other parts of the state. there are a muslim prisoner in arkansas challenging a policy blocking him from growing a beard. can congress require the state
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department to allow an american born in jerusalem to list his birthplace as jerusalem, israel, on his passport, given the status of jerusalem is contested. the court will also hear cases on religious employment and housing discrimination. nbc news chief justice correspondent pete williams is live at the supreme court as we take this kickoff. maybe because i'm a millennial but the case that jumped out to me is this one on facebook. could threats made on facebook actually be construed as being real? >> this court has been very sympathet sympathetic and willing to uphold speech in a lot of contexts. this is a man post things on his facebook page about his estranged wife. his postings picked up a lot of the violent language of rap lyrics it the question for the court is what is the legal test for determining that something
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is an illegal threat. is it how it is viewed by the person who is the subject of threat or is it the intent of the person writing the messages in the first place. that is the test. it's a little different in the internet age. lawyers for the man say. because when you post something on the internet, you don't know woz going to read it, as opposed to when you send something in the mail or you leave a message on the answering machine. you know who the recipient is. some of this language was, i think anyone would say, was disturbing. after the woman got a restraining order, he said, fold that up, put it in your pocket and see if that will stop a bullet. in another posting, he said there are so many schools around here that i could attack and that i could do a mass shooting in. so the language is disturbing. he says it wasn't meant to be threatening. the supreme court will have to deci decide. i think what they'll do is not make an case out this but just interpret the law.
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the man may win this case. >> that is quite fascinating. we'll see what it means for the future. real quickly, a lot on the docket. obamacare, tom goldstein of the scotus blog says not enough people are paying attention. could it, in fact, knock down the statue, what is he getting at? >> the question is the law is ambiguous. it's not a model of congressional clarity. it's not clear whether it means if you buy the health insurance on the federal exchange, healthcare.gov, you get a subsidy that lowers the price of health care substantially. one court has said yes, you do get it. another court has said no you don't. that decision, no you don't, has been wiped out. that's the d.c. circuit case. they'll rehear that. other courts are ruling in that way. so this is going to -- there are lots of challenges all other the country. this could end up before the supreme court this term.
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>> nbc's justice correspondent pete williams, thank you. up next, the tail of two countries and the fight against isis. plus, a critical component to defeat isis is cutting off their cash flow. we have an in depth look at who's fuelling this brutalist terrorist operation. who is the only person to serve both as president and as a supreme court justice? this is so easy. he's in the president's race at nats park. i'm still getting over those two games. the first person to tweet the correct answer, @dailyrundown. seventh grade history question. too easy. i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! a "selling machine!" ready for you alert, only at lq.com.
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♪ there are reports a major isis victory today that could change the face of the war. this morning, the militant group raised a flag over the eastern part of kobani, just a mile or two from the turkish border.
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this follows several days of clashes with kurdish fighters who had been trying to hold the city. the question now is whether the new developments will force turkey to use its own troops to keep isis from crossing the border. different story, however, in iraq. kurdish fighters have managed to retake an area west of mosul, a city isis has controlled for almost four months. the brutality continues to make headlines. they executed british aid worker alan henning. the video ended with a threat to kill another hostage, american peter kasich. he is a former soldier turned aid worker who converted to islam. he writes, quote, at least you and i can seek refuse and comfort in knowing i went out as a result trying to alleviate suffering in helping those in need. meanwhile, even with congress still on recess, lawmakers are finding time for the sunday shows. questioning whether president obama has the right plan to defeat isis.
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>> this is a big crisis. this was not an intelligence failure. this was a lack of action failure on the administration. our options are more limited today. maybe we could have handled this differently. but i think special forces and others are probably going to have to to be on the ground. >> there will be troops on the ground. there are over 200,000 iraqi national security forces. there are kurdish peshmerga forces. >> -- training -- >> that's exactly what we're in the process of doing right now. in fact, effective iraqi military forces on the ground are probably being much more effective than a short-term introduction of american forces. >> nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel joins me now from istanbul, turkey. a key component in the strategy to fight isis is cutting off that cash flow that fuels their brutal terrorist regime. how do we do that? >> well, a lot of the money that isis raises is raised locally.
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they have checkpoints. they extort money. isis, we often talk about how well funded the group is. they sell black market oil. and the estimates are about 1 to $3 million a day that isis is able to raise. but recent reports we've been hearing are that isis does not have as much cash as it is often advertising. that in some places that isis controls, particularly the city of ruka, there are food shortages. people are complaining they don't have water, they don't have enough to eat, and isis is hoarding what little supplies it does have to give to its fighters. so i think there is already some action being taken to limit their funding and i think they are not quite as well funded as some people might believe. >> and, richard, this city of kobani that has recently fallen, how strategically important is that for isis? >> it hasn't fallen entirely.
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there are still some fighting in kobani. this, for isis, is a propaganda move. isis wants to take kobani because it is right on the turkish border. isis, one of the first things they did was raise a flag in the part of the city, the eastern part of the city, where isis fighters were able to enter. they did that because they want to taunt turkey. they want to show turkey, which is a nato country, that they are now right on the doorstep. and turkey is taking this move very seriously. they have sent extra tanks to the turkish border. they've deployed extra troops to the turkish border. secretary of nato said if necessary those isis militants crossed over and continued their campaign in turkey, nato would consider sending ground troops to turkey to back up the turkish military.
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so isis is still advancing on this town right at the border. it wants the world to know it. and it seep seems to want to goy into a ground fight in syria. >> for more on that money trail, nbc's foreign correspondent is here with the second part of his series, how we got here. with fighters, weapons, media outlets, there's so much, what do we see here? >> that's exactly right. isis is running up a pretty big spending tab. some say as much as $1 million a day. but the group is also making money as we just heard there from richard. in fact, u.s. intelligence estimates and experts estimate that isis is earning between $2 million and $3 million a day. but how? and that's what we're going to try to explain here. isis gets its money from three main sources. black market oil. kidnappings and ransoms. and from wealthy supporters from gulf states.
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after overrunning fields in syria and iraq this summer, ie issa took control of oil refineries. that's why some of its arab allies began to target some of these oil refineries. it was selling that oil for much cheaper than national prices but it takes in as much as $2 million a day. that's why the u.s. and its arab allies started to target those installations, to try and dry up some of that source of income. for a while, isis made money on kidnappings and ransoms. the turkish government secured more than 40 of its diplomats held by isis. it's not clear what turkey gave up in exchange for the hostage release or if it even paid a ransom, but it does give you an indication. early on, some of the countries in the arabian gulf funded
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extremist groups to try and help them topple the syrian regime. some of that money is believed to have ultimately found its way to isis and its supporters. but another major source of revenue came from so-called angel investors. these are very wealthy individuals, mainly in the arabian gulf countries, and these individuals sent funds to isis under the guise of humanitarian aid. these gulf governments say they're not sending any state money to isis and are cracking down on those individuals who do. the u.s. wants them to do more to stop the cash flow. isis remains one of the biggest and best funded terror groups we have seen in a while. that's why cutting off their funding is a key component to the terrorist group. >> amman will be answering your questions about the isis money trail on twitter today. tweet your questions to @aymanm
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with the hash tag msnbcchat. joining me now is the senior fellow on council relations. gail, the kurdish military spokesman told the guardian that the u.s. strategy now isn't quite working. said, quote, they are besieging the city on three sides and fighter jets simply cannot hit each and every isis fighter on the ground. that leads me to the question i want to ask you. you obviously saw that report. it's a very well-funded terrorist group. can they be combated without some sort of significant ground presence that is not the united states? >> well, that is always been the point coming from those who supported backing the syrian opposition or the so-called moderate opposition. they've argued for about 15 months, 17 months. i went back through my notes last night. that the boots on the ground should be syrian.
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i think all along there's been a debate going on within the administration about the cost of inaction versus the real unintended consequences of intervention. and now you're seeing that debate very much spill out into the open. there's now a well-documented road map in hindsights inc. printed by the folks who served the administration who are now talking about what would have happened if we armed these folks two years ago. ambassador hill, ambassador jeffrey, ambassador crocker. a stunning list of folkings would served inside the administration. about boots on the ground and whose they are. >> as the united states moves forward on the mission, there's a divide between what can happen in syria and what can happen between iraq. iraq seems to be slightly more feasible so far in terms of being able to accomplish our objective. it's certainly no easy task. how does that scenario play out
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as we move forward? for example, isis has routed from iraq but totally goes over to syria or vice versa. >> iraq has undergone this incredible transftransformation. so you see this battle, you hear about it from folks inside the administration and out. folks who really do believe iraq is the more winnable of these wars. there are those who say, look, you can have some tactical success in iraq. if you don't address the cancer to what's happening in syria, the fight against assad, you will never get to an end in this conflict. i think whoever comes next will inherit this war, whether we like it or not. >> lastly, turkey, they've been a wild card throughout this entire conflict. vice president joe biden had to apologize to the head of turkey after he sort of said they were playing both sides and their inaction led to the rise of this
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type of terrorist group. how important of a role do they play moving forward? they've taken some steps to shore up their border and try and stop the flow of fighters in and out. what more can they do? >> i think that diplomatic dance you're seeing going on with u.s. turkey relations right now is a sign how sensitive and how important that relationship is. the u.s. has all along wanted turkey to do more. there are also a lot of regional powers who said to the u.s., you know, we wanted you to act also. 16, 17, 18 months ago. i think there is this to and fro happening and we'll see where the diplomatic conversations end. i do think turkey will end up doing more but it's a question of when and whose terms. >> thank you, we appreciate your views. take care. up next, an nbc news free lance cameraman arriving in omaha, nebraska, just moments ago to be treated for ebola. the first patient diagnosed in the u.s. is fighting for his life in a dallas hospital. new developments on both cases when "tdr" comes back. how much money do you have in your pocket right now?
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back to our top story. more details on the fifth american diagnosed with ebola. nbc freelance photographer ashoka mukpo arrived in omaha this morn after contracting the virus in liberia. we're waiting for an update on his condition. he's being treated at the bio containment unit. nbc's kate snow got an inside look at the facility and asked doctors what kind of precautions they'll be taking. >> he'll be fully suited from head to toe. then he'll have a face mask covering his entire face. so literally not one inch of his body will be exposed. and our health care workers will be -- have protective equipment on very similar. they'll be covered from head to toe. >> when you cross the red line, there's no turning back.
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>> the medical director of the bio containment unit took us across what they couple the red line, into the area where no one will be able to go without full protective gear. everything is carefully monitored. >> if you hold this open for more than a few seconds, an alarm goes off. that mean there's a break in the barrier system. >> ashoka's family will not be able to get near the patient room but he has a link to the outside world. this little camera will give him the ability to video chat with his family just down the hall. >> in dallas, the struggle to save thomas eric duncan's life continues inside an isolation unit at texas health presbyterian hospital. duncan's condition was downgraded from serious to critical. his family says he's been put on both a respirator and dialysis machine. sunday night, a week after duncan was admitted, hazmat crews decontaminated the apartment. 48 people are suspected of having some sort of contact with duncan. and experts say it's crucial to monitor all of them for symptoms
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today, tomorrow and wednesday. nbc continues our coverage from dallas. we're coming upon three critical days because 8 to 10 days after initial exposure is when family members could be showing signs of ebola. what do we know about those people duncan came in close contact with? >> well, good morning, luke. all of those people, all of the 48, and especially those 10 who had direct contact, 7 health care workers and 3 family member, are being closely monitored. daily vital and temperature checks. fever being one of the first symptoms of ebola. so far, we are told, no one is showing any signs. as you mentioned, the next three days are going to be critical, the 8 to 10 day incubation period starts today and ends on wednesday. a lot of very careful monitoring of all of those people over the next three days. those three family members who had direct contact with dunk be, they are staying in a home at an
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undisclosed location in dallas in a gated community. nbc news was actually able to speak with one of them, the one duncan had come over here to reportedly marry here in america. she said they are all doing well. no one is showing any symptoms of ebola yet but they're very concerned for duncan who was downgraded to critical condition and doctors say they are very concerned for his health and his well being right now. >> thank you so much for your report, we appreciate it. as far as the next -- as far as campaign surrogates, nobody has more power of persuasion than former president bill clinton and there are numbers to prove it. we'll explain that. clashes in hong kong between police and protesters who are vowing to keep up the fight for free elections. we're there live with new developme developments. the white house soup of the day, black bean, sweet potato and red
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turning to the very bad news in kansas for republican senator pat roberts. and the senate mash-up which could decide whether republicans win control of that body this fall. a new nbc news poll shows roberts is trailing independent businessman greg orman by ten points, 48-38. just 37% of kansas voters have a favorable impression of roberts who's running for his fourth term. orman benefits from cross-party appeal. he is winning 16% of republicans and 77% of democrats. and he's winning independents by more than a 2 to 1 margin. there's more good news for democrats. in north carolina, where senator kay hagen is up by four points over republican statehouse speaker tom tillis. libertarian shawn hall takes 7% of the vote. hagan benefits from a 19-point
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advantage among women. tillis, though, carries men by 13 points. we're seeing a gender gap. in iowa, ernst narrowly leads bruce braley 46 to 44. there's an enthusiasm gap there. 51% of braley voters strongly support him. while more than 6 in 10 ernst supporters say they choose her because they actively support her candidacy, a majority of braley supporters say opposition to ernst is motivating their vote. we're going to get to that in just a second. we have some breaking news from pete williams who's juoutside i front of the supreme court. is there some breaking news? >> some very big news. a real surprise here. the supreme court has said it will not hear any of the seven same-sex marriage cases that were filed over the summer. now, that means a couple of things.
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first of all, obviously, it means at least for now, at least -- well, it possibly could last through the whole term. the supreme court will not have the last word on this issue. if they stand by this. they may be waiting for further developments in the appeals courts before they take these cases. so that's a big thing. but perhaps even bigger is the fact that now the lower court rulings stand. you may remember that all the same sex marriage cases that came to the supreme court that were decided by the appeals courts, in either case, the appeals court struck down the state bans on same-sex marriage but put a stay, holding the effect of those rulings until the supreme court acted. well, the supreme court has just acted. those stays will shortly dissolve. now, that means that same-sex marriage will then become the law of those circuits. and that means in the states where they haven't even gotten to deciding the cases, there's
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a -- remember, there's a same-sex marriage lawsuit pending now in all the states that ban same sex marriage. those people can now go to court and say, look, it's the law of the circuit, we win automatically. that means 11 more states will now -- the law will be that same-sex marriage will be granted. just think, for example, in the tenth circuit where utah is, we had rulings in utah and colorado, but not kansas. not wyoming. so shortly, same sex marriage will become legal in those states. now, just to spin this out a little further, suppose, then, later this year, the supreme court decides to take up a same-sex marriage case. then you'll have a situation where, you know, potentially marriage will be legal for a while in those states and then it will be put on hold while it goes to the supreme court. so let's just summarize here. the supreme court has turned down -- has said no, we're not going to hear all of the seven
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same sex marriage cases from the five states where the bans were struck down, and those rulings were upheld by the courts of appeal. that's utah, oklahoma, virginia, indiana and wisconsin. so that's the first thing. now, secondly, by virtue of saying we won't take these cases, the stays, the court orders, put those rulings in abuoyancy will shortly be lifted. in those federal circuits, the 10th, the 4th and the 7th, same sex marriage will be the law of those circuits. 11 more states will suddenly, by this action, same-sex marriage will shortly there be legal. it doesn't happen overnight, it's not automatic, but the people who have those lawsuits in those other states will say, look, this is the law of the circuit, we win. so it's really interesting and unexpected development here, luke. >> and, pete, this is, is, we
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have to presume, this is a significant win for backers of same sex marriage. something they've been fighting for, for quite some time. >> in a way, in a way it is a win. however, what's unusual about this case, normally, if you sue me and the case goes to the supreme court and i win in the lower courts, i say to the supreme court, don't take this case. the lower court ruling was right. stay out of it. but what was unusual about the marriage cases is both sides, both the states defending the bans and the couples opposing them, asked the supreme court to take the case because they said, look, this is never going to be resolved until the supreme court answers the question. take the case. oh, by the way, take our case, because ours is the best one, they all said. >> why wouldn't they take it then, why wouldn't they punt it? >> well who knows, i mean, there's -- we're not going to know, because the orders are very brief. the supreme court never gives a reason for denying a case. and there are hundreds and hundreds of cases on this denial
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list that has just come out. but let's look at the possibilities. one is the safest way to get a case before the supreme court is to say there's a split split ame lower federal court. the court of appeals. all the cases that came up here was unanimous. there was no circuit split. one possibility is the court wants to wait until there's a contrary ruling from another circuit court before they take the case. but the second thing is, you know, the court just doesn't want to get ahead of public opinion here. the court may well be sit back and say, look, this thing is there's a tidal wave of the rulings in the states. what do they need us for? the states will get here eventually. you heard a little bit of this sentiment expressed by ruth bader ginsburg in a speech she gave. she was doing a q & a period at the minnesota law school a couple of weeks ago. she said we shouldn't rush. it was the same justice who
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thought the court was too quick to rule on abortion. she thought the decision was right but it came too soon. maybe some justices think the country isn't ready for the supreme court to say this. whatever reason. we don't know but these are the possibilities. >> big breaking news there. the supreme court -- we can't thank you enough, pete williams. all the same sex appeals before the court are not going to be heard. the circuits same-sex marriage is legal. very significant. we'll have more about that throughout the day. all right, let's do trivia time. william howard taft is the only person who served as president and supreme court justice. congratulations to today's winner. we'll be right back. delightfulls morsels, the chocolate you know and love now filled with caramel, peanut butter, cherry, and mint. so peanut butter up some brownies. and caramel-ify those chocolate chip cookies with new nestlé© toll house delightfulls. bake some love™
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that we saw there last week. that's left people wondering where things are going from here. nbc ian williams joining us from hong kong. is this the end of the protest? >> hi, there, luke. the protest leaders say it's not that the fight will go on. certainly tonight the numbers are well down. far less than we saw in the heedy moments last week and the weekend with tens of thousands on the strietds. that said more have joined the protest this evening. they did lift the blockade this morning to allow government workers to get into the office from behind me. and when the workers lighter in the spirit of the protest they were handed cups of warm drinks and applauded as they left. now the students who lead this protest now have to decide what they do next. part of the problem, part of the challenge they face is reaching agreement as to where the next
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goes. there have been pleas to concentrate the protest in the area behind me. that hasn't necessarily happened. there are also preliminary reports but still no firm talks with government yet. >> krb n ian williams thank you. that's it for this edition of the daily rundown. coming up next jose diaz-balart. he'll have more on breaking news from the supreme court. we thank you for joining us. take care. thank you so much for watching. i'm meteorologist bill karins. on this monday we are going to have some travel issues out there. later this afternoon strong thunderstorms will be working their way from areas of arkansas to northern mississippi through tennessee and kentucky especially. some light rain could probably airport delays and travel delays
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good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. we have several breaking stories this hour. nbc news freelance camera man is being treated for ebola at the nebraska medical center. he arrived just before 9:00 this morning. was able to walk off the plane with his own power. we will have much more on that in just a moment.
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but first, breaking news. major breaking news out of the supreme court, which has denied all same-sex marriage cases. let's get to pete bill yams live at the supreme court with a break down with what it means. pete, good morning. >> i can't tell you -- this is a typical supreme court decision. i can't tell you why i can only tell you what they did. in a huge surprise, the supreme court said it's not, at least now, not going hear the issue of same-sex marriage. there were seven lawsuits pending challenging the marriage bans in five states utah, oklahoma, virginia, indiana, and wisconsin. in every one of the cases the lower court judges said the ban were unconstitutional. the federal appeals court were unconstitutional. but stays were put in place. they were put on hold. they did not go into effect pending action by the supreme court. today we got