more than a decade of secrecy. that's all for now. i'll see you back here tomorrow. let's get to work. >> it's a disease brand new to the united states. >> it will get worse before it gets better. >> we have learned a lot about the unique challenges. >> i was in an ebola ward the other day and was in the typical hazmat suit americans are being a cussfor hised to seeing. >> he's relieved to be here. >> he'll be fully suited. >> it's important not just to

africa but to the u.s. and the world that we stop the outbreak. >> we begin with breaking news. just moments ago, president obama said he's looking at new measures to protect americans from ebola. >> procedures are now in place to rapidly evaluate anybody who might be showing symptoms. we saw that with the response of the airplane in newark and how several hospitals across the united states have been testing for possible cases. one of the things we discussed today is how we make sure we're spreading the word across hospital, clinics, anyplace where a patient might first come in contact with a medical worker to make sure that they know what to look out for and they're putting in place the protocols and following those protocols strictly. and so we'll be reaching out not only to governors and mayors and public health officials, but we

want to continue to figure out how we can get the word out everywhere so everybody understands exactly what is needed to be done. >> on top of that new, we have other major developments on ebola at hope and in west africa. ashoka mukpo has returned to the united states. we should point out mukpo had been freelancing for nbc news for only two days. that means he contracted the virus before he joined nbc. he will be treated at the nebraska medical center. mukpo was able to walk off the plane under his own power before being put on a stretcher for the ambulance ride to the hospital. he was the fifth american to be infected with the virus. earlier today his family updated the media. >> he's enormously relieved to be here. of course it's still quite frightening, but he's hanging in and he sounds very strong. annual i thi

and think he shares in the relief that he's come back for good medical treatment. >> he likes strange. he waved to us as we saw him from a distance. he's tepts differenntative and but i think he's strong and his symptoms are not more advanced when i talked to him before he left which is a real relief. >> in dallas, thomas douncan's condition has been downgraded to critical. there have been no other cases of ebola in texas. meanwhile this africa, the outbreak shows no signs of slowing. over 4400 people have died with over 7,000 infected. on sunday alone, 121 deaths were are recorded in sierra leone with 81 new cases in a single day. here the at home, americans sho be thinking about enterovirus. so far there have been 538 cases

of the disease nationwide and one death in new jersey. 4-year-old eli waller died in his sleep on september 25. he was show nothing signs of the disease before his death, but he was showing symptoms of peink eye. doctors believe it was a rapid onset of the disease. the illness mostly affects small children. unfortunately, there is another outbreak going on in the u.s. that is completely preventable. there have been 592 cases of piece sells measles in the united states this year. this comes after the disease was eliminated in 2000. officials say it's because of people not properly vaccinated their children. some people think early childhood vaccinations lead to autism. doctors say it's completely false. a 2013 study cited by the cdc shows no link between autism and child vaccines. the cdc strongly encourages parts to vak sccinate their children against all deadly

diseases. for more i'll bring in an expert on ebola and also a professor at the health sciences center. how worried should americans be? >> great to be here. thank you. it's reasonable to be quite nervous about anything that you hear about in terms of an youts break. this has infected and killed thousands already. but in fact in terms of the u.s., i don't think that there is a major huge risk as long as we can continue to contain it and monitor it. the real focus should be on west africa and liberia and other countries where if we can put the fight there and do everything that we can to contain it there, then we can pope hopefully prevent a real question here. >> but the point is that many people have said they haven't done a good job of keeping things town over there as a result of that.

its spread has caused alarm here in america and other places. >> it has caused a lot of alarm, but bal ebola is not as transmittable as the flu or measles. so if "ounce of prevention" is a pound of cure, we should be help helping to do that. we probably will see more cases here that seem more inevitable. the first case as we described it was basically inevitable here in the u.s.. but seeing lots more seems unlikely. >> should the average parent be more worried about the enterovirus d-68 or ebola? >> let's talk science here. there are mathematical terms for things like this.

how can muchontagious is a dise. ebola is like around a 2. the measles is r-18. so we should really have to reinvent so many protocols if we just stick to the protocols that we have because we've done this before and we're supposed to be doing it in every hospital in the united states. we wouldn't be sitting here right now talking about that patient if the nurse and the doctor had communicated and then taken care of that patient and stopped him in the hospital to begin with. you want to make my bow tie spin, talk about we need to communicate as physicians and nurses. >> so is there more pair paranoia around ebola than the diseases that we can prevent? >> i don't want to say it's paranoia. millions of people get the enterovirus every year.

people shouldn't panic, but people do get nervous because they only get snippets of things that they need to understand. but we have to make sure that people get the real deal. >> what do we know about the treatment of the patients here in the u.s. might be receive something. >> there are two treatments not yet approved by the fda for ebola. they're testing for a number of diseases including ebola. and today we learned that brincidofovir which is a drug that again is not approved for ebola was developed if other viruses but show as lot the of problems in the lab is now being used for the gentleman in there is.as lot the of problems in the lab is now being used for the gentleman in there is. dallas. they have run out of the treatment for zmapp. both are being fast tracked by the fda. but we don't have 1enough of

either. and the question is can we ramp up production so we can can treat the cases effectively. but at the end of the day, the most effective thing at these hospitals and this would be true in liberia and elsewhere is to contain this. is to have precautions, is to have isolation units that work properly and that's really where we have to focus our attention right now. >> compared to the flu, how contagious is ebola? >> well, it is contagious. but we know that you must have direct contact with bodily fluids. and in a regular hospital, we use those types of universal precautions every day all day. or we're supposed to be using them. and so that is the biggest issue for me. we have to do what we're supposed to do. but pol is cebola is con taemtc. when you get it, odds are it's

more fatal than some of the others. but there is a virus that the measles causes. so let's rain owing oeign it bat people know there are things that you can prevent. expand the affordable care act so we can have more nurses at the hospitals. >> when do you think we'll see a shift for the better? >> it's always hard to predict how these things will go. we like to talk about all the technical terms. but in fact, it's hard to predict when a disease will take its course, when an epidemic or pandemic will take its course. but all of those things will go much more quickly if we can contain it, get the right personnel, the right equipment and all of that and treatment if necessary.

>> all right. i want your reaction to the record number of measles cases this year. what gives here? what do you think accounts for the spike in those numbers? >> you know what you can't do, you can't unfire a gun. there was an erroneous study that showed made the measles fa vaccine causes autism and thousand we're having an outbreak. i ask people right now, please vaccinate your children.an outb. i ask people right now, please vaccinate your children.having . i ask people right now, please vaccinate your children.thousan outbreak. i ask people right now, please vaccinate your children. >> where did that notion start is this. >> a british doctor actually did a stauddy andis this. >> a british doctor actually did a stauddy and and it was proven the study was not done appropriately. he was a doctor and you now he's not a doctor. his license was taken.

but the point is there are a lot of people that follow this because they don't want to endanger their children. but it is not the case. i've written several studies about that, the fact that this is not the case. >> are you confident the u.s. medical system will sftop ebola in the united states? >> i never make predictions. i follow the yankees and i don't even predict they will win every year. but i think that we'll help ourselves if we can take appropriate measures and really take the battle to liberia and to western africa as michael smith who reports on ebola and other infectious it diseases tad about. if you take precautions in this country and we're still figuring out what those are, it's tricky to screen for something that has symptoms that sound a lot like a lot of other symptoms. but we do it and there are ways to start doing that. and if we can do all that, take

appropriate measures at the hospital, communication is so important. and at this lawyer particular hospital, it wasn't up to enough, i think that we can do what we need to do and we won't have see row zero cases. i don't think it's realistic to say we won't see any more cases, but we can keep to a minimal number fp% . >> if you think your yankees are bad, look at my tirgs. but that's another story. coming up, rapid response panel. but first, republicans call for a travel ban for ebola vehicle p countries. the basics, you know. i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired.

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welcome back. president obama plans to send over 3,000 military personnel to west africa and contribute $5 million in aid. cdc officials say they are confident there won't be an outbreak in the u.s., but the go. 's response to the epidemic met sharp criticism from right wing politicia politicians. >> it's beyond time to stop the flights from these countries about sbl what do you do with a person that will get on a plane in west africa. >> imagine if a whop shil of le our soldiers gets ebola. i'm concerned about this and it's a big mistake to down play

it. >> governor perry as addressed concerns without insighting panic. ted cruz penned a letter to the faa where he, too, inquired about plans to limit or suspend air travel from could you ntrie experiencing outbreaks. alarms are amplified by media outlet. this morning fox news spoke with dr. fauci. >> why not just as a precautionen till we get things under control seal off the border temporarily? >> well, from a public health standpoint, that really doesn't make any accepts. you can't get supplies in, you can't get help in, you can't get the kinds of things in there that we need to contain the epidemic. and the best way to protect america is to suppress the epidemic in west africa. >> what about a partial ban, a

closing of our borders travel? >> closing of our borders? you have americans there, you have business people there, business of dual citizen ship who have to go back and forth. it's completely impractical and in fact from a public health standpoint, not helpful to do that. >> the politics of fear continue to hang over the dialogue before joining me now, congressman tim ryan of ohio. do you think the government response has been adequate to this particular potential outbreak? >> it seems it has been and we have some of the best public officials, some of the best public health experts i should say involved in this scenario. we have the united states military going over there help to go try to set up camp. and basically build public health infrastructure. so this is a very difficult task. and i find it very ironic that the very political party and

politicians who are criticizing every single step, every single move being made as i said by some of the best public health officials in the world are the same people that voted to cut over $500 million from the center for disease control budget over the last four or five years, over $440 million from the national institutes of health that could be doing potential research on these kinds of issues to help solve these problems. the cdc is about a billion dollars less in preparedness money that he this had had i think in 2002. so these folks are lobbying these criticisms at the administration and at the cdc. they're the very ones that cut the budget. >> and when i said potential outbreak, i was referring veers here in united states. we know there is an outbreak in africa. can we to more and what would you like that to be?

>> well, i think first of all beefing up the budget.do more a you like that to be? >> well, i think first of all beefing up the budget. and doing more research to try to solve some of these problems. we have to rebuild our public health infrastructure here in the united states. and it's not as easy as saying planes can't come in from africa into the united states. we'll just maybe build another wall and hope that that fixes the problem. and it seems the simple solutions don't work. and the real issue here is there has been disinvestment in the public health infrastructure in the united states. take you any issue, whether the infrastructure, disinvestment from the public side and roads and brains and airports, water lines, sewer lines, we need to rebuild the united states. tessie nation of the public health infrastructure here in so many different ways as i mentioned the cuts at the cdc and national institutes of health. you also take the issues that we have with food.

tale we're s daily we're seeing recalls. just in the last couple of day, food is getting recalled all the time. 3,000 people die a year for food bourne illnesses. about 128,000 people going to the hospital because of it. so all of these issues are signals to us as a public. what are you going to do with your big tax cut if you're in the top 1% if you get ebola? i think we need it reevaluate what we're doing here as a country and there are certain investments we have to make. so beef up the cdc, invest in research and development, rebuild public health infrastructure. all across our states. and reinvest back in the united states in the other ways, roads and bridges. >> conservatives attacking president obama's response to the outbreak are all prospects for 2016. do you think they're using a medical emergency for political

gamesmansh gamesmanship? >> well, i want to say no. i can't get into their heads. but at every single turn, no matter what the president says, they're lobbying criticism, positioning themselves. we see it in foreign policy. it used to be politics ends at the water's edge. you have this issue here, it would be nice support the president for a major global public health initiative. if they want to do something, look for example michael with the surgeon general nominee. november 2013, she was nominated. we still don't have a surgeon general because of the politics that these folks are playing in the united states senate. so it seems at every turn they're make criticisms of the president to score political points meanwhile we have a

public, global public health crisis here. >> fox news mike huckabee says he countries trust government response to ebola. take a listen. >> i'm feeling a little sick myself, but it's not ebola. each just sick of a government that i'm paying for a telling me not to worry and just trust them. i wish i could. but if they repeatedly lie to me, i just don't believe them anymore. >> what is your reaction to that statement from a former government official in. >>? >> they're a one trick pony. they cut the budgets of these agencies. like the cdc, the nih. and they turn around and say, look, they can't do their job. this was the same issue when wall street collapsed. they completely defunded the

regulatory arm that was supposed to be watching wall street and this then they said the government didn't work. i think the american people are catching on. you can't cut the budget and then say they can't do the job. it's completely irresponsible from governor huckabee who i think as a governor recognizes that the government and there are public investments that need to be made and he should understand that better than moos. but again, he's making money and scoring political points. and he'll get another book deal. he doesn't really care, doesn't seem for care, you know, what the effects are to the american people or the public health of some of our fellow global citizens. >> all right. congressman tim ryan, thank you so much for joining us here tonight. >> great to be with you. coming up, rinse priebus thinks strict an boars laws are an act of republican compassion.

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it's an act of republican compassion. >> one of the things about the republican party is you you don't like a lot of regulation on businesses except if the business is an abortion clinic. 80% of these abortion clinics in texas will be basically out of business because of the new law. too much regulation, is that fair? why regulate on the abortion issue now until may the law is maybe not -- wait until you win a fight in the supreme court? why restrict a business now in the state of texas? >> the fact of the matter is that we believe that any woman that is faced with an unplanned pregnancy deserved compass, respect, counseling, whatever it is that we can offer. >> but 80% of the clinics are gone. >> the issue for us is only one thing and that's whether you out to use taxpayer money to fund abortion. that's the one issue that i

think separates this conversation that we're having. >> joining me now is our rapid response panel. director of the democratic party in texas, associate professor at brooklyn college, and president of the national organization for women. ter terry, do you think priebus was purposely misrepresenting the law or is just didn't know the facts? >> probably both. he obviously doesn't know that one this three women will have an abortion by the age of 45, so that abortion care is actually a necessary and common aspect of women's basic pre-productive health care. this is the same par to restric birth control. the same who wanted to exclude child birth services from the

affordable care act list of basic things that insurance companies have to cover. is this a party that simply doesn't want to have women to a success to health care. >> what will it mean for the women of texas? >> closures of the clinics will mean women will be forced to give birth. the legal abortion rate will go down, but women will cross the border and take poison and ask their husbands or boyfriends to push them down the stairs. there is nothing compassionate or respectful about that . >> in right of the compassion of the right wing, do you think this lends itself to people who direct their energy against those practices, in other words, will it really inspire a social movement down therein tooe iin

across the country? >> i'm really hoping that it does phenomen does. if nothing else comes out of this, i'm hoping it will mobilize women to say, know, it's time to put a stop on this, let's get out and vote and change things in texas. when you look at a map and see the way that the numbers of these clinics have shrunk, particularly along the border, you know, there are no clinics left. and so this is really hopefully going to move and in-svvent adv women to say let's get to the poll s and vote. and there are organization in texas doing this kind of work.

>> do you think it will make to the spreecupreme court? >> i think it will. the supreme court will be asked to overrule roe vs. wade. we know the supreme court under john roberts is highly politicized. that he is pushing through and imposing on the united states even though it's clearly not the role of the supreme court. but i believe that highly politicized chief justice does intend to address abortion and try to push for an overruling of roe vs. wade. >> so what kind of role do you see women's health play management upcoming midterm elections? because obviously this is a hot button issue, but there are several others. >> you're already seeing it push people across the line. i know that in my county, a canndidate just had a poll done and the top question was do you think republicans have in-truded too much in women's health

decisions and both sides said yes. when reince priebus high school represents hb-2, something to do with the hyde amendment, it just shows how little respect they have for texas women and their families and they're feeling that. the fact that we already have to go to the doctor and be treated like children and wait 24 hours and we have to wait longer to get abortions than guns, we're tired of the disrespect and that's why you see so many coming out and the new votes initiative in texas, all these groups gathering around to as acce assemble the women who are frustrated. >> it your mouth to some people's ears including god. dr. perez, you mentioned earlier about latinas. there is a particularly sensitive issue in terms of

religion. many people appeal to religious conservativism where latinos and other catholics are serious about the precious right of life and yet at the same time, the same republicans who appeal to the religious sense abilities don't think about the consequences of living in poverty. so how do you deal with the relir religious tensions. >> what tee kno latinos make u4 women in texas. and research tells us the longer they spend in the united states, in other words latinas who are born here, versus immigrant latinas, to over time become more open to going to be a borings clinics or using abortion services when they are

necessary. they also are open to working with unfortunately many of them turn to oir fother forms of ill abortions that are practiced in latin america. so latinos don't often have the kinds of access to education around sex aulsexual reproducti health. and so these topics need to be broached with women in texas anding a cross the country. >> so if you were chuck todd yesterday, speaking to reince prieb priebus, what would your follow jump question have been? >> i might have said do you really know what is in the texas law and do you really think that driving 300 milesump question h? >> i might have said do you really know what is in the texas

law and do you really think that driving 300 milesp question hav? >> i might have said do you really know what is in the texas law and do you really think that driving 300 miles forcing women to have other health care shows compassion? and also other access other reproductive health care including birth control as well as child birth services. why would the republican party be so owe posted to women having access to basic health care. do you not understand that it's basic health care for women.pos access to basic health care. do you not understand that it's basic health care for women. >> and i mip men to that pi thank you so much. coming up, bill mayor criticized over his quote of islam. ut what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states,

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explosive exchange during a show on friday. maher said liberals are afraid to speak out against contradiction and this is where ben affleck jumped in. >> we have been sold this meem of islamophobia where every phrase of the doctrine gets confused -- >> hold on. are you the person who understands the officially codified doctrine of islam? >> hold on. i'm actually well dated on the topic. >> you're saying if i criticize it, islamophobia is not a thing? >> i'm not saying -- >> that's big of you. >> we have to grow. >> it's racist. >> but it's so not. >> and we have to be able to criticize bad ideas. >> of course we do. >> but islamophobia is the mother load of bad ideas.

>> jeez. >>. [ all speak at once ] >> you don't understand my argument. >> you're argument is like, blast people. >> no, it's not. it's based on facts. i can show you joiegyptians, 90f them believe death is the appropriate response to leaving the religion. if 90% of brazilians thought death was the appropriate response to leafing catholicism. the late night host said, i'm the liberal in this debate and this is not a question of liberalism, it's a matter of categorizing a whole group based on the action of a few. >> is this debate about western liberal values, or should we be

able to criticize islam? >> no, you can criticize any faith if you'd like to. all i would ask from bill maher, i admire him on so many issues, as a progress, i've watched his show. he's funny and smart at times. but this issue with muslims has been creeping up for years. you can criticize muslims. don't pick and choose and cherry pick facts. nobody in our group wants that. not about criticizing the practice of the faith in certain suns. like saudi arabia, women can't drive. that's the only country out of 47 muslim countries that does that. that's what we're fighting against. >> dr. peterson, ben affleck made an illusion to african american people, going into a rant about black people to show how ridiculous this was. do you see a parallel between

the kind of bigotry that was used to explore black identity on the one hand and the way in which islamophobia has operated in this country? >> yeah, i do. i think, first of all, islamophobia is not a meem. it has impact. there's several things beingulaibeing ullacking from this conversation. there's no muslim folk in that conversation. number two, is a sense of the way in which government and poverty and economics shape the ways people think. we talk about saudi arabia. remember, that's the government using islam to oppress women. the government of the united states has done things to oppress folks too. so if you narrow it down to the so-called extremists or to terrorists, you cannot confuse those folks with islam proper. i think ben affleck is right here. but there are too many things missing from the conversation. economics, government critique and people who practice islam. >> dean, what about that?

as you said, bill maher has been a patron saint of liberals for so long? what do you think he's missing here? some people will say he's brave because he's thinking about a self-critical perspective of literals who are loathe to criticize islam on one hand -- >> i'm a muslim and people are free to criticize us. there's no bravery involved. just turn on bfox news, you see it every night. you have a panel talking about muslims, you don't have one muslim on the panel. it's like another cable news channel having a discussion about black issues, but having all white people discuss it. be responsible, have people learn about the faith. there's a poll this summer, 60% of the americans have never met a muslim, they have no muslim friends. how are we defined? by mainstream media, fox news,

tv shows like homeland and the result s there's no counter narrative of a human being. i want to be your muslim friend if you don't have one. [ laughter ] >> i would rather answer your questions than let bill maher or fox news answer your questions. >> dr. peterson, what about this, the reality is that there's a lot of antsiness out here now because of what people see, and yet it's an ancient, honorable religion. we don't do it with christianity, but there's a lot of groups within -- >> it's hard to be critical of the religion that is most widely practiced in the u.s. which is christianity. but if you're talki ing -- isiss

the most current example of this. it's very effective of terrorizing folks through media and media images. our media is effective at sustaining this. the ways we commemorate 9/11 is by showing the destruction of those buildings, which is exactly what the terrorists want to do. i've been trying to avoid the beheading videos all summer long. but people are circulating them. unfortunately, we don't have enough counter narratives when it comes to islam. >> i appreciate you gentlemen, so very kindly. one more thing before we leave, is this debate a good thing? do you think this is positive? >> i think if we have a responsible debate, if you want to talk about the laws in certain muslim countries, that's a fair debate, i don't think there should be honor killings. women should be able to drive, and not be mandated to cover up. the most populace muslim country in the world, you don't have any of the issues that saudi arabia has. so it's specific to the country.

>> james peterson, thanks so much for your time tonight. >> thanks, doc. that's "the ed show." ed will be back tomorrow. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. we start with breaking news on ebola in america. late this afternoon, president obama met with the nation's top public health and security officials. the president pledging to stop the virus from spreading. >> i consider this a top national security priority. it is very important for us to make sure that we are treating this the same way that we would treat any other significant national security threat, and that's why we got an all-hands on deck approach. we're doing everything that we can to make sure, number one, that it the american people are safe. i'm confident that we'll be able to do that. but we're also going to need to make sure that we stop this