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>> james peterson, thanks so much for your time tonight. >> thanks, doc. that's "the ed show." ed will be back tomorrow. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. we start with breaking news on ebola in america. late this afternoon, president obama met with the nation's top public health and security officials. the president pledging to stop the virus from spreading. >> i consider this a top national security priority. it is very important for us to make sure that we are treating this the same way that we would treat any other significant national security threat, and that's why we got an all-hands on deck approach. we're doing everything that we can to make sure, number one, that it the american people are safe. i'm confident that we'll be able to do that. but we're also going to need to make sure that we stop this epidemic at its source.
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>> among the possible next steps, tougher screenings at four international airports where flights arrive from west africa. also today, the american cameraman working for nbc news who got infected with ebola arrived in nebraska for treatment. and in dallas, the first person diagnosed with ebola in the united states, thomas eric duncan is now fighting for his life. doctors say he's in critical but stable condition. he's received the first dose of an experimental drug used to combat ebola. these developments and more, sparking a national conversation about whether ebola is under control. whether health officials are doing enough and when does justified concern become paranoia? it's a debate that broke out this weekend on nbc's "meet the
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press" between joe scarborough and former obama adviser david axelr axelrod. >> is kent brantly who had it, he said this is a fire from hell if you think the atlantic ocean is going to stop it from coming over here, you're kidding yourself. >> i don't want to disagree with dr. scarborough. [ all speak at once ] >> that's an understatement. >> gentlemen, let's -- >> the nih, these are public health professionals are world-class standing. they have no motivation to mislead the american people. they've dealt with many epidemics before, many health issues before. i don't think there's a reason to believe that they're not doing what needs to be done. >> the dr. scarborough comment, this is a serious issue. people like you and people like us go on television and say,
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this is far worse than they're saying -- >> i'm not saying that. i'm not saying that. >> okay, guys. [ all speak at once ] >> what i'm saying -- >> i got to hit the pause button. >> we have to ask the tough questions. >> these are indeed tough questions. are we doing enough? are we doing too much? where do we draw the line between common sense safe guards and giving in to fear? joining me now is dr. seema yasmin, public health professor at ut dallas and a staff writer for the dallas morning news and joann walsh editor at large for salon.com. thank you both for being here. doctor, a new poll shows 58% of americans have a great deal, or a fair amount of confidence in the government to stop ebola. 41% say they don't have much confidence. but doctor, people see the images of the hazmat suits and
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they get scared. is the government on top of this? >> well, reverend, we can't just look at the government. because what they're doing is some of the international response. here they're coordinating some of the response and giving guidelines, but it really falls to other jurisdictions and health care facilities themselves to look at the guidelines. it's not enough then to look at them and print them out and stick them on the wall. you have to practice. so really this is more than a one-agency effort. it's a multi-agency effort, requiring good collaboration, lots of communication, and the utmost transparency to make this effort work, both overseas and right here in dallas where i am. >> joan, you know the debate we saw on "meet the press." americans around the country are having that same debate, aren't they? >> yeah, to some extent they are, reverend al. but i'm just struck how we're supposed to be in this atmosphere of fear all the time. every time you turn on the television there's something new to be afraid of. i go back to the child migrant
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crisis on the border this summer where the children were coming over with diseases and drugs. that has mostly subsided. there's no cameras there. there's nobody yelling about that. then it was isis, the beheadings, which were terrifying and terrible. but there's no one coming here and doing anything to us at this point. we should be concerned, but not freaked out. we have this fear machine that told us isis was coming over the mexican border. and now we have ebola. it's a scary disease, but there's only one person in the country with it here. i'm not saying don't be concerned. i'm not saying don't do anything about it, but we have a situation where i think we used to be a people who were problem solvers and now we're supposed to be people who run around like chickens with our heads cut off. i don't get it. >> doctor, talking about the anxiety, the president was asked today about that. listen to what he said. >> what do you say to americans
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who are still nervous -- >> well, i'd just explain to them that the nature of this disease, the good news is that it's not an airborne disease. we are familiar with the protocols that are needed to isolate and greatly reduce the risks of anybody catching this disease, but it requires us to follow those protocols strictly. >> key line there, it requires us to follow protocols strictly. i mean, should americans be confident that that's happening, doctor? >> well, sure, in some regards, yes. but i have to echo joan's point, though, that fear really doesn't help, reverend. in west africa, we've seen fear fuels the epidemic. so some part of this response needs to be breathing deeply, having some confidence and letting the officials also do their job. as i mentioned, from a health care perspective, where i'm
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coming from, it's not just enough to have the protocols. you have to practice them. so i've spoken to local hospitals and also hospitals across the midwest, other parts of the u.s. who say, we've got the protocols. now we're doing practice drills. we're saying to our health care staff, let's all start, imagine somebody with ebola just walked in, what would we do? let's practice that and go over our response. did we do a good job or did we not? what can we improve? so that's key. preparing and practicing. >> speaking of fear, that's what some republicans are beginning to do. here's something rand paul said about the administration's handling of the ebola challenge. quote, they're down playing and underplaying the risk of this. the spanish flu in 1918 killed 21 million people. the plague in the 14th century killed 25 million people. i'm not saying that's going to happen. i don't know what's going to
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happen. now, you wrote about this, joan. is the main result of gop attacks like this to fan the flames of public fear? >> i think that's entirely the point and i don't get it. rand paul isn't stupid. he's even a doctor, and he's suggesting the president is lying about the way the disease is transmitted snts is he an ebola truther shouting down science and what we know? this is also another thing that concerns me. this is also a party that's voted to cut the cdc, to cut the nih, to weaken -- >> we can't even get a surgeon general. >> we can't get a surgeon general. we have governors who turned down medicaid. budget cuts have hurt or public health infrastructure. and to go to something the doctors talked about, they want to cut back foreign aid -- >> i've got to push a little on that, because i think when you hear rand paul comparing this to millions that died in the past,
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while they're cutting these budgets. >> right. >> all this, we need to be doing more, when they are the ones that cut the budget that it would have to come from. >> right. and i'm not saying we're not ready. i believe we are ready. but we need to have a presence in west africa. we need to be working with people to contain it there. when foreign aid is a no-no in this country. so the same people who are fanning the fear are actually cutting back the tools that the nation and the globe needs to deal with this crisis. so it's really quite hypocrite cal. >> doctor, we know the administration is looking at more steps to screen for ebola. it reportedly includes tougher screening of passengers flying into the four airports from west africa. jfk, dulles, chicago o'hair and newark. how important is this? >> screening is important. at the point of exit is also important. making sure people have their temperature taken.
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they answer key questions. we done humans don't always tell the truth. as a doctor, i can tell you, people don't always tell me the truth either. screening can help. the important thing is to maintain transport to that region in west africa. it's so important that doctors and nurses can still travel to west africa and then can leave to return home. it's property that medical aid continues to go there. we do want to do screening, but don't want to make it impossible for travel to happen between the u.s., europe, and west africa. >> that's a great point. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> thank you. coming up, breaking news in the hunt for an accused cop killer. police are closing in and may have found a letter he allegedly wrote after the shootings. plus, rush limbaugh is cooking up a new conspiracy theory about president obama. you'll want to hear this one. plus, the fight that's
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lighting up the web. bill maher versus ben affleck, talking about muslims and terrorism. >> more than a billion people who aren't fanatical, who don't punch women -- >> wait a second. [ applause ] >> don't do any of the things that you're saying. >> wait wait wait wait! [ all speak at once ] >> -- and you paint the whole religion with that. >> tell us what you think. it's in tonight's "conversation nation." go ahead and put your bag right here. have a nice flight! traveling can feel like one big mystery. you're never quite sure what is coming your way.
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hear appeals to gay marriage challenges from five states thereby legalizing marriage equality in those states. before today, same-sex marriage was legal in 19 states and washington, d.c. today's news adds five more states to that list. utah, oklahoma, wisconsin, indiana, and virginia. and six more states will soon follow, based on today's decision. wyoming, colorado, kansas, west virginia, north and south carolina. that means 60% of all americans will soon live in states where marriage equality. even conservative strongholds, utah and oklahoma are impacted by today's decision. same-sex weddings were under way in afternoon in virginia. the country's changing. reverend martin luther king jr famously said, the ark is long,
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breaking news tonight in that massive manhunt for a cop killer in the pennsylvania woods. police believe they are closing in on eric frein. for 24 days, authorities have been looking for the 31-year-old, accused of murdering a state trooper in a deadly sniper attack. tonight, authorities reportedly found a hand-written letter from frein, detailing the september 12th shooting. they're searching an area near the tree nursery where a law
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enforcement official reported a possible sighting yesterday. police say frein is surviving on cans of tuna fish and ramen n d noodl noodles. they believe this food supply is dwindling and that they're closing in on his trail. >> we do have some evidence that he's trying to live off the land. however, i don't believe that for the most part that that's what he's doing. the evidence suggests that, instead he's living off food that he carried with him, or cached in certain areas and again, i believe that food is running out and that we've seized a significant amount of that. >> joining me now, from the search scene is joe court, reporter for the scranton times tribune. and retired a tf agent joe cavanaugh. thanks for being here.
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you saw police swarming a tree nursery. >> yes, i did. >> do you believe think they are closing in? >> well, it's hard to tell. as the time goes on and the season turns colder, he is likely going to need to start seeking shelter indoors at some point. that's what they're hoping. that may be a mistake and they're hoping to capitalize on it when he does. >> as we mentioned, jim, the law enforcement officials reportedly found a letter written by frein today. the letter reportedly detailed how frein allegedly shot two troopers, killing one, outside the blooming grove state police barracks, and subsequently avoided capture by police. the letter did not mention any motive and it's not clear when or where it was found. what are officials saying about this aleletter. why would he write a letter
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detailing the shooting while he's on the run? >> i think he's going down. he's dropping down. you know, the luster has quickly gone off the fugitive lilly here. the woods starts out being a friendly place and becomes a very unfriendlily place when you're trying to survive. think of what the trooper said, he was eating tuna fish and ramen noodles. everything he has to do to survive is a risk for him now. if he lights a fire to keep warm, the infrared can spot it. if he gets an animal to heat it, it's gunfire they can move in on it. it's going to be fight or flight. so it's a very important time for the agents and troopers up there to try to move in on him. >> >> joe, what are the officials saying about this letter?
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>> officially they're not commenting. they're saying it has no bearing on public safety. in the past when we've asked them, they've said it's for prosecutorial evidence, they don't want to give away too much before it goes to prosecution. but i have not been able to officially confirm that there is such a letter. it's just reports at this point. >> jim, let me ask you something. it's been 24 days. is it possible this guy just slipped away? i mean, how do we know he's still there in the pennsylvania woods? >> well, i think that sighting yesterday that you outlined earlier reverend al, they believe was a good sighting, near the nursery. and they found this letter, which is some putrid manifesto of why he did what he did, but it's at a point for him where he's going to have to make a decision. to stay and fight or try to slip the cordon and get some food. hunger is a big motivator.
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berries get old fast and it's hard to be able to forage and look through your scope and fight the war. so i wouldn't be sure that he's not going to try to slip. he could stay in sight. but he's at decision point and he's going down fast. i wouldn't be surprised if we have and action up there this week. >> is there fear in the community? it's been 24 days. people have been told, they're close, they're close. 24 days, kids going to school, not going to school some. what is the attitude? >> well, the community is, certainly they're at a point where they would like to get back to their lives, but there's also very clear evidence that they understand the situation. everywhere you look there are blue ribbons tied on trees or telephone poles.
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if you drive around the neighborhood, there are signs saying, we support the police. but it's been 24 days and they are certainly hoping to get back to their lives. joe co-hut and jim cavanaugh, thank you both for your time this evening. coming up, the secretary of explaining stuff on the trail. bill clinton is out to help save the senate. and bill maher versus ben affleck. let's just say, i don't think they'll be spending thanksgiving together. but first, did you know rush limbaugh was also a celebrity chef? yes, he's cooking up another conspiracy theory on jobs, next. nineteen years ago, we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review.
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if it's good news for the economy, it's bad news for rush limbaugh. chef limbaugh is back in his kitchen, cooking up another conspiracy theory about the obama administration. the unemployment rate is below 6% for the first time since president bush tanked the economy. but the gop's executive chef says it's impossible. >> this today is as illegitimate, this 5.9% number is even more illegitimate than the 7% number. there's no way this economy has an unemployment rate of 5.9%. >> illegitimate? the job numbers are great news for the economy. but this isn't the first time chef rush has tried out this recipe. he's just reheating old
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leftovers, hoping they still taste good. here he is back in may with the same spoiled attack. >> nobody would suggest that the regime is cooking the books in the run-up to the mid term elections. it would never do that. >> you got to love it. good news met with a dash of conspiracy. the only one cooking up something here is rush. he's throwing jobs into his election paranoia stew, and he's used the same recipe before the last election too. >> obama who is monkeying the numbers here, jimmying around with things in an election year, designed to make things look better than they are, projected to be better than they are. we've. >> we've heard this attack from a lot of job truthers on the right over the years. the truth is, we've seen 55 straight months of private sector job growth. the longest stretch in history.
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historically in non-presidential years, there's a big drop-off in the youth vote. and the opponents of these candidates are betting there will be this year. and i'm betting there won't be. and it's up to you. [ applause ] >> it's up to you. former president bill clinton talking to voters in arkansas ahead of the mid term elections. right now, a group of extreme republican candidates are hoping to take over the u.s. senate. today president clinton ticked
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off the low lights of one candidate's record. >> blue cross there has asked for a rate increase of 18.5% yeah, would i vote to raise the minimum wage, no way. >> they're against the minimum wage, against women's rights and if republicans can again control of the senate we'll see a new push for their extreme agenda, perhaps including impeachment. democrats think it could all come down to four states. colorado, iowa, north carolina, and alaska. each of the races is close. polls show republicans have a narrow lead in iowa and colorado. but democrat kay hagan pulling ahead in north carolina and while a republican candidate is ahead in alaska, the state is notoriously difficult to poll. with just 29 days until the mid
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term elections, control of the senate and a whole lot more, hangs in the balance. joining me now are democratic strategist jamal simmons and tara daldell, thanks to both of you for being here. >> thank you. >> good evening. >> jamal, republicans hope democratic voters will stay home on election day. how can democrats vote maivae - motivate them? >> some of these races are now starting to see michelle obama pick up, particularly in some of the governor's races. she's going out there, telling the story, to get people focused. i think a lot of people are waiting to see what hillary clinton is going to do. we know she has some campaign stops coming up. the candidates themselves have to keep talking about what they want to do to make lives better for individual voters and people
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will vote their interests. >> and don't you need a ground game? surrogates are all right, but what about on the ground? >> no, you're absolutely right. you need people going door to door, the buses moving through the neighborhoods. it's too bad in some states we're seeing things like polls shut down on sundays. but you got to get people picked up and turned out and that takes bodies and a real effort on behalf of the parties. >> tara, we talked about the senate seats that democrats need to hold on to, but a lot of other races are still very close. a new poll out of kentucky found today among likely voters, democrat alison lundergan grimes is two points ahead of mitch mcconnell. now, if mitch mcconnell is still in danger, what does that mean for other republicans on the ballot around the country? >> i think people are underestimating, and you raise the point earlier in your spot on, it's all about the ground
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game. people are underestimating the democrat strategy for the ground game. we have 10,000 people on the ground in north carolina right now, helping to produce a really strong operation. if you look at alison lundergan grimes in kentucky, not only did she run in a primary without competition, but she executed a strategy, as if it was election day, as a preparation for election day. those are the things that democrats need to continue to do to press that ground game, because that's all -- go tv is going to be what this will be about. it's always been how democrats have one and it will continue to be. >> some candidates are using isis ahead of the mid terms, but over the weekend, new hampshire senator kelly iot who is not even up for election by the way, went even further. listen to this. >> i think what we have here is
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a problem with the president's foreign policy is being trapped by his campaign rhetoric. and i'm very fearful that as we look at the current military strategy, that it is surrounding the november elections and that he won't have the resolve to follow through with what needs to be done in a sustained effort to destroy isis. >> i mean, do you hear this? the president won't follow through on isis after the election? i mean, she's not even running, but using any opportunity to take a shot at the president. i mean, is this -- jamal, what is your reaction to this? >> i think there must be some voter out there that she's talking to, that some pollster has told her really cares about this issue in this way. here's the reality. if barack obama were playing politics on this issue, he wouldn't be engaging in military action before election day, because the voters who tend to turn out who want to support him, feel funny about america getting back involved in the
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middle east. democratic voters would prefer that we chose other methods to deal with this problem than just military. so i think she's missing the entire boat. the president is doing what he thinks is best for the country. american voters want him to do his job regardless of politics and that's what he's up to. >> i've got to bring this up. the other big issue is voter suppression. this is something dear to me. i've got to bring it up. today, our attorney eric holder, released a video message, blasting cuts in early voting in ohio. look at this. >> ohio, for example, has imposed new restrictions that significantly reduce opportunities for early voting. opportunities that had been in the past heavily used by african american voters. it's a major step backwards to allow these reductions to early voting to go into effect. >> it's not just ohio. a new report found restrictive
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voting policies proposed in 20 states this year. what impact could these have? >> well, i think there's a pro active policy in place on the part of the democrats, which i'm glad to see. our progressive organizations have been taking these laws to court. unfortunately, in north carolina where they have the most restrictive laws, we won some, but we lost some. the difficulty is going to be, republicans are sending out these mailers and this misinformation to people about election day, saying that some of the laws have been overturned, that they're still in effect, so there's a lot of confusion out there. that's where the challenge is. we have to make sure that our supporters are aware of what is and what isn't happening. what they can and cannot do on election day. that's the real issue. >> and that's in a non-partisan way, jamal. that's why i talked about ground game, because if you're given
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misinformation, if you're cancelling early voting days, pushed back early voting by a week in ohio, if you don't have the information out there, door to door, you can find any surrogate you want. people don't know what to do. >> that's right. what we've seen on the ground in many elections, it gets more neff airious than that. republicans pass out flyers on election day, telling them the election moved to wednesday. don't worry about showing up on tuesday. so they do all sorts of things to get in the way. >> i'll be in orlando, florida tomorrow and out on the road from now until election day. it's very important people come out to vote. jamal simmons and tara doudel, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, an outrageous comment about minorities from a
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businesswoman whose name is on an nfl stadium. plus, bill maher and ben affleck's fight. and roasting other dead celebrities in heaven. >> steve jobs right here, incredible. steve, i hope you're forced to buy a newer bed or casket every six months, so you can see how we feel, am i right? >> was it funny, or did it cross the line? "conversation nation" is next.
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we're back now with "conversation nation." joining us tonight, msnbc's kriftel ball, comedian chuck knight and radio host dana jacobson. thank you all for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> we want to hear what you at home have to say. tweet us your opinion. we may feature your tweet during the segment. we start with an explosive exchange between comedian and tv host bill maher and actor ben af flex on realtime on friday. the debate came in a conversation about radical islam with maher and his panel guests who describe islam as the mother load of bad news.
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maher saying that liberals, quote, need to stand up for liberal policies and not be afraid to speak out against the religion. affleck strongly disagreed with both. >> -- freedom of speech, freedom to practice any religion you want, without fear of violence. freedom to leave a religion, freedom for women, these are liberal principles that liberals applaud for, but then when you say, in the muslim world, this is what's lacking, then they get upset. >> you're saying that islamophobia is not a real thick? that if you're critical of something -- >> it's not a real thing when we do it. [ laughter ] it really isn't. >> i'm not denying certain people are biggoted against muslims as people and that's a problem. >> that's big of you. >> it's racist. >> but it's so not. >> it's like saying -- >> we have to be able to criticize bad ideas. >> of course we do. >> but islam is the mother load
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of bad ideas. >> krystal this is a powerful exchange, but it led to a question. how do we deal with the culture and religion in the middle east? what's your reaction? >> my immediate reaction is, i have such a liberal crush now on ben affleck. i thought he was amazing throughout the show and so strong there. what he was objecting to, you can't say this is how muslims are, and this is what all muslims believe. i mean, the muslim world is huge. it's divorcerse. >> there's a big debate. >> exactly. so to say this is what islam is, this is what muslim people are and we have to attack that, i have a big problem with that and i do think it's racist. >> but we are very afraid to say anything against it, because of fear of what might happen.
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>> i'm not sure we're afraid. i think what people want, they want those who are in islam to actually step up and say, that's wrong, and condemn what we call radical islam. >> which they are saying. >> but there's got to be people coming out and saying, that's not me, isis doesn't represent my group. >> i think people have discussed women, i think they've discussed various parts of the culture. they certainly have attacked the nation of islam here in america. >> but that's what i think is the hard part. its the radical part that people are so against. and i think that there's that fear that if you speak out and say anything, that people don't realize that you're speaking on the radical. >>. [ all speak at once ] >> the thing is, this is so nuanced. it's a fear of the radical, but there is a fear, islamophobia. people look at it and they are
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prejudice against islam itself. >> whether they want to admit it or not. >> that's true. i've got to move on to the next topic. a facebook rant is raising eyebrows and sparking serious questions. indiana businesswoman charlotte lucas, founder of lucas oil, along with her husband, wrote on her facebook page, quote, i'm sick and tired of minorities running our country. as far as i'm concerned, i don't think that atheists, minorities, muslims, minorities, nor any other minority group has the right to tell the people of the united states what they can and cannot do. is everyone so scared that they can't fight back for what is right or wrong with this country? now the indianapolis colts play at the lucas oil stadium, a stadium that was also publicly
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funded by taxpayer dollars. dana, she apologized, but does she now have an nfl problem? or does the nfl have a problem to deal with with her? >> the nfl has a problem. maybe she should be one who was afraid to actually speak out -- >> could use a little more humility. >> i think it's an nfl problem and the bigger problem, it's a colts problem. and oh, yeah, this is the colts whose owner jim irsay is still suspended right now for dui and isn't back with his team until after thursday's game. >> he's not a minority by the way. >> he's not, exactly. so he has a problem. and the nfl, twho the lucas oil family supported during roger goodell's trial lately. they've been on his side. so the nfl is not going to reach out and even issue a slap on the wrist. if this were a player that said it, i think they would and i don't see them doing that. >> can i just say, the absurdity of saying that minorities of
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running this country, when i looked up her political giving history, she's a big donor to republican causes. and we know it's wealthy people like herself who are actually running our government. so she has nothing to complain about. [ all speak at once ] >> she's part of the 1%. there's only 1% of her. so she's just like, i'm sick, i can't believe, i'm so oppressed. so little of us to stand up for our rights because the fact is, there's very few of her. i'm shocked, by the way, that an old, rich, white republican has a problem with minorities. what is happening? [ laughter ] >> no capital gains tax, no peace. [ laughter ] a sketch on "saturday night live" this weekend and drawing a big reaction and mixed reviews.
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guest host sarah silverman played joan rivers roasting other dead celebrities in heaven. watch. >> heaven, are you serious? me in heaven? i guess i should be here, i'm practically a virgin. the last time someone was inside me it was melissa. so many incredible people here tonight, even steve jobs right here. incredible. steve, i hope you're forced to buy a newer bed or casket every six months, so you can see how we feel. am i right? >> the two were very close friends and the segment was billed as a tribute. as i said, mixed reviews. someplace on social media thought it was too soon. others loved it. you're the comedian here, what's your take? >> i think the only thing joan would have had a problem with was how bad sarah silverman's impression of her was. other than that, joan rivers would not have a problem.
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here is someone whose daughter, with her blessing, had howard stern do her yule ji. nothing bothers joan rivers. [ all speak at once ] >> she helped create sarah silverma silverman. a few jokes seemed to fall flat because she missed the timing. >> but nothing wrong with her doing it? [ all speak at once ] >> i know you were offended what keenan did me. >> we'll talk about that another day. although you handled it with grace as expected. >> i wanted him to lose weight. >> you got to tell us all how. >> i thought it was a loving tribute. they put up the card at the end, and my only objection was, it wasn't that funny. >> krystal ball, chuck knight, and dana jabe obson, thank you for you time tonight. watch krystal on "the cycle"
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