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good morning. i'm tamron hall. this is "newsnation." we're following breaking news. the homeland security department is ordering agents to step up security screenings at airports across the country in order to stop the spread of ebola. we go live to kristin we'ller. we know the president has been in a few meetings regarding what actions need to be taken. especially at our nation's airports. what is the latest? >> according to a senior official travelers coming from countries most affected by ebola will undergo the screenings in a separate area. they'll have their temperatures taken, they'll there to fill out questionnaires. in is going to happen to start off at the nation's top five airports. atlanta, newark, jfk, washington, and o'hare.
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it comes as president obama is set to go to the pentagon later today. he will get briefed on the military's efforts to fight isis but on the handling of the ebola crisis. the administration saying the key to stomping it out is tackle it at the source in west africa. 1600 u.s. military personnel are headed to the region. they're going to be setting up hospitals, treatment centers, labs to try to deal with this crisis and prevent it from coming to the u.s. border. so again this all comes as we're learning more about the screening measures that are going to be put in place in the coming days. this, of course, tamron, is something that president obama announced earlier this week. but now the administration fleshing out the details of how specifically these screening measures will be implemented and where we can expect to see them in the nation's airports. >> thank you very much. meantime in omaha new details about treatment for the nbc freelance photojournalist who is fighting ebola at the nebraska hospital. dr. kent brantly who survived the disease after being treated
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for ebola in atlanta donated blood to ashoka mukpo in the hopes that brantly's anti-bodies will help ashoka mukpo's immune system. it was in august that dr. brantly received the same type of transfusion from a young ebola survivor in liberia. ashoka mukpo is being given experimental drug that has never been used on an ebola patient. thomas duncan, the patient being treated in dallas, has been taking the same drug since saturday. his family says he's showing slight signs of improvement. also developing news to report right now. we're waiting for john kerry and british foreign minister to make remarks following their meeting this morning, which is expected to focus on the battle against isis. in just a few hours, president obama will visit the pentagon to meet with top military commanders on both the battle against isis and the fight against ebola. the president will also meet with his national security
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council to discuss operations against isis. and also today the fbi is asking for help identifying this man. seen in the latest isis propaganda video. it is now posted on the fbi's actual witness. the masked isis fighter speaks in what the fbi describes as a north american accent. officials say he appears to be either american or canadian. >> we're here in the 17th military base just outside the city. and we're here with the soldiers. you can see them digging their own graves in the place where they were stationed. terrorizing the muslims. >> and the fbi also released this poster and asking anyone to help identify the isis militant to call them. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us live now. pete, let's talk about the action taken by the fbi. what more can you tell us than
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we've already laid out? >> a couple of things. number one, if that sound of that voice sounds familiar to someone, they should look at the fbi's website. fbi.gov. they can play the extended clip themselves and listen to a longer excerpt than we're going to play on the air. it's a bit of a balancing act for us. to make it available to people and tell them about the fbi's appeal for information. but on the other hand, not be carrying the water for isis propaganda machine. what is happening here is the fbi taking the tools that isis is using. try to reach out to potential recruits and followers through social media and use the same technique against isis. it's taken the excerpt from a 55 minute video saying if anybody recognizes the man his features or voice or knows someone that looks like him that recently might have left and gone to syria they want to hear about it. they're starting to get responses now and going through
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them. it's going take awhile to check them out. >> obviously so. it's interesting that the fbi has used this strategy to your point. it is a delicate balance. so much of that video obviously the nature of it, pete, is upsetting but they need -- i would imagine, a significant clip where you can actually hear the voice and maybe even the body language. which is similar to what happened with the u.k. in their efforts to identify another fighter believed to be from that area. >> yes, now on that other point. the man with the knife who appears in the beheading videos, the u.s. and u.k. officials tell us they're confident they know who it is. and i don't know precisely how they arrived whether they got tips. they're seeks tips now in this case hoping they'll equally find out who this person is. >> thank you for joining us, pete. we appreciate it. in the battle against isis canada's parliament voted to join the u.s.-led air strikes.
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but only in iraq not syria. that follows similar votes from ore countries including britain, france, and australia. in syria, with isis fighters continue to advance despite new u.s.-led air strikes today. richard engel joins us live from along turkey's board we are syria. richard, what can you tell us about the new strikes today? >> there have been new strikes in the last 24 hours, and they are being effective. they are targeting isis positions around the city of kobani and defenders say they have slowed the isis assault on kobani. they haven't saved the city. there are still militants in kobani. it is at least some coalition action that appears to be having results on the ground. kobani has become a symbol of the conflict. it's becoming a major crisis for where i am now, which is turkey.
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kobani is a kurdish city. it is full of kurdish people, kurdish nationals. it's on the turkish border. the city is under attack by isis. over here in turkey, right across the border from kobani. there are 20 million kurds. and they are outraged that turkey hasn't done more until now to save the city of kobani. think that turkey works hand in glove with isis. we're not seeing outrage here. we're seeing riots. in the last 24 hours, according to turkish officials, 18 people have been killed in clashes with riot police. six other provinces are under curf curfews. the biggest kurdish city's airport has been closed to prevent more kurds from going
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there and clashing with police. so the city of kobani is now tearing apart very real tensions in this country between kurds and turks. >> and, richard, as i understand, turkey has said it fears being sucked into a ground war in syria and that is the explanation as to why it has troops and tanks lining of the border but not taking action in kobani. >> turkey has a different strategy than the u.s. led one right now against isis. the u.s. strategy in syria is to target isis and at least in principle back up these moderate rebels to fight isis. but the u.s. isn't targeting bashar al assad which is the reason there's a civil war in syria and he's the reason why isis militants have been able to
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flourish. they don't want to get involved in a confused -- and sees a continuation of the civil area. it's a different vision for how to solve this problem and turkey doesn't want to get drawn into a war it doesn't see -- that has a proper solution right now. there to pick up on what we reported just before coming to you, richard, canada's parliament voted to join u.s. led air strikes only in the iraq not syria. similar to what we heard from britain, france, and australia. you still have these countries in a sense hedging their bets of drawing a line to separate what they're willing to do from what the u.s. is doing at this point >>well, we are seeing the emergence of calling an iraq first focus. and iraq first strategy. which is continue to do some air strikes in syria.
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kind of do what you can in syria but focus the mission on iraq where there is an iraqi army where there are old relationships with iraqi sunni tribes. there are old and close relationships with other types of kurdish fighters. not like the ones in koba initiation. that seems to be the priority right now. you're seeing more and more countries sign on to we'll focus on preventing isis spread in baghdad, in iraq, and we're not going to worry so much about syria. this is another problem that critics say with the strategy. because right now you see an invisible border between syria and iraq. the u.s. and other countries want to focus on iraq but isis doesn't make any kind of distinction between iraq and syria. we go back to the same problem. how do you group -- how do you attack a group that spans both side of a border by attacking them mostly only on one side of
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the border? >> all right. richard, thank you so much. up next in moments former president bill clinton will speak to a group of mayors and police chiefs in a large discussion an important discussion regarding ferguson and the death of michael brown. outgoing attorney general spoke only moments ago. we'll have the latest coming up next. an update to the disturbing video of a routine traffic stop where police are being accused of excessive force. hear exclusively from the teen boy who captured the video. he was actually in the car. this is now a federal lawsuit as police say they have their own video of the encounter. but will they release that video? developing now nfl player adrian peterson appears in court for the first time. will enter his plea to a felony charge of child abuse as he responds to new allegations concerning his charity. joining our conversation online you can find my team @"newsnation." you can find me on facebook,
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. we are following breaking news into msnbc. we just received word from the texas health resources that reads it is with profound sadness we must inform you of the death of thomas eric duncan this morning at 7:51 a.m. mr. duncan, according to the statement, insidious disease ebola. he fought gorgeously in the battle. the professionals in the unit as well as the entire texas heal health -- we offer our family
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condolences. we received a statement from the texas health resources in conjunction with the texas health presbyterian hospital where mr. duncan was being treated. he has in fact died as a result of a ebola. as you well know, this was the first case confirmed in the united states. mr. duncan travelled from liberia to the united states, according to the minister at a church where his fiancè was a member. he traveled to the u.s. to prepare for a wedding. prior to his arrival in the united states, according to neighbors in liberia, he assisted a pregnant woman and her family. that woman had ebola. she decided as well as her unborn child and another family member in that home. mr. duncan travelled to the united states. according to the information in the standard questionnaire, he
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was not showing a fever at the time. he was asked if he was in contact with anyone who had ebola or may have shown symptoms. he said he had not. he travelled from brussels to washington, d.c., and then on to texas. his family members took him to the hospital after showing symptoms a high fever and explained according to the information and to reports to the medical personnel at the texas presbyterian hospital he had been in west africa. he was sent home despite notifying them of that information. that is all still being investigated. this is the information that has been widely reported from the family and other news agencies. thomas duncan's family contacted the cdc and soon after thomas duncan was admitted to the hospital. we saw video only yesterday of thops duncan's mother,
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85-year-old mother who lives in virginia make an attempt to visit her son in the hospital. she traveled from her home in virginia to texas to visit her son. she was told at the time that she was not able to see him for safety reasons. obviously he's been in isolation. we just reported only a short time ago that an experimental serum was being used on thomas eric duncan in hopes of saving his life. but obviously that serum and all efforts at the hospital were unsuccessful. so we're working to get more information. but obviously you have three patients. two treated at emery and a third, dr. sacra treated in nebraska. now we have the first person, the first confirmed case in the united states, case that was
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confirmed in the u.s., this patient, according to the hospital systems of texas, texas health resources passed away at 7:51 a.m. we're going it take a quick break and we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow.
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standing by with the latest. ron, there are still so many questions, obviously. it was earlier today we heard that mr. duncan was receiving the experimental treatment. we know his mother and family members had gone to the hospital in hopes of seeing him. they were told they could not due to the obvious circumstances and now we are conformation with very sad confirmation that the man died after being infected when he helped a pregnant woman who needed medical attention in liberia. >> yeah. hey, tamron. this is sad news, obviously. it came as a shock to us this morning. we heard conflicting reports about his condition that over the weekend he had taken a turn for the worse that the kidney starting to show signs of improvement. they were trying to get him more stable. they were trying to stabilize him even further. it comes as a shock he passed away this morning. a lot of questions including questions about his first visit here to the hospital that friday
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before last when he came in complaining of fever-like symptoms. he told apparently the hospital er folks he had just traveled here from liberia. those red flags did not seem to go up. they sent him away with a prescription for antibiotics and two days learn he returned here to texas health presbyterian by balance. and the tuesday after confirmed to have ebola. and this morning unfortunately he died. we're trying to get in touch his family here. they've apparently been informed by the hospital staff that he passed away this morning. they're very sad, as you can imagine. they can have come down from north carolina. they didn't have a chance to see him visually in that hospital isolated area on monday, and yesterday apparently they did not want to see him. the mother was struggling with the story with her son in the hospital in a coma. and of course this morning he's passed away. >> let me get you to standby. i want to bring in a doctor for us. you've joined us with your
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incredible moj on this virus and how it has taken so many lives. more than 3,000 in west africa. now, doctor, we have a patient who has died here in the united states. first, let me ask you when we first heard that mr. duncan was on dieial sis and in a comma. that was far more severe of a situation than we'd heard with the other three patients who have been treated and ultimately cleared and cured of the ebola virus. was that a sign, to you, i mean, you could not come on-air and say that. there's always hope. did that paint a different picture with this case than the others? >> caller: it's just so hard to tell when you're waiting for press reports from the hospital and you're not treated to the was in about how the patient is really doing. we know that thomas eric duncan walked into the hospital last week when he was discharged the same day. when he returned it was in an
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balan ambulance. it's more serious than the americans air lifted back to the states. many of those were walking into the hospital and it seems like thomas eric duncan's situation may have been more severe from the beginning. it's so hard to tell, tamron, without the background information. >> to the point, doctor, we're waiting and there will be a investigation to reflect and learn from what happened, but, you know, here we are october 8th. he was, according to the first information showing signs september 24th. he was in this tiny apartment in texas with his fiancè, many others. there were other families living in the apartment complex. a few days passed even before some of the materials including the mattress he slept on were removed. the vehicle he travelled to the hospital and back to the apartment in sat there for so many days. is that the first question?
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if you were a part of the panel, looking at what happened here, would you ask immediately was he further along perhaps even as early as september 19th which would have been the day he left monrovia? >> that's right, tamron. that would be the questions. i know, there are so many other questions in the investigation. including why he was turned away, why he was offered antibiotics. we have so much to learn from the situation. it's not putting blame on anybody. we need to make sure we analyze it and learn as much as we can. the other hospital could take on board the information. >> and we know the number of people he reportedly came in contact with it started as a few dozen. and then that number increased to 40 then we learned that there was a homeless man that came in contact with mr. duncan. they were able to locate. at this point, i believe, i don't want to give out the wrong
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number here. at last count it was somewhere around 10 who had direct contact with mr. duncan while he was contagious. and those people would be in quarantine. i think the date is until october 19th. again, because this time line is very fluid here. when you look at this man's condition and the fact he's died here. do you believe now they have to really throw the calendar out they were working in the information they were working on even as it relates to the people who are in quarantine? that's why we saw it we saw there were possibly 18 to 20 contacts. anybody that he had contact with. he became symptomatic on the 24th and 25th. it seems the 19 is around that same date for exposure for the folks who did have contact with
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him. >> please, doctor, if i can get you standby. let me go to ron mott, my colleague on the ground. ron, at this point, i just got a statement -- not a statement of reaction to mr. duncan's death but update on the global effort to contain it and fight it. john kerry asking for more countries to step up and help. more equipment to contain the spread. we know thousands of troops about 3,000 of u.s. troops will go to west africa. the pentagon updated that information yet. but back here in the states, ron, what more do we know about the individuals who came in direct contact with mr. duncan at the scludsecluded. >> the folks deemed high risk who had direct contact with him when he was contagious with the
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virus. you mentioned it was about ten. it's about the number we think are going through daily monitoring. they're getting daily phone calls and checks in-person checks from health authorities here. they're getting their temperatures checked and being interviewed about how they are feeling. any signs their temperature might be increasing they will probably head here or to another hospital here in the dallas area to be isolated and monitored even further. we are hearing about the eight-day mark from the time you might have -- when the clock starts, if you will, when folks generally may think they may be out of the wood. the incubation goes up to three weeks. those in the apartment up to about the 19th of october. we should mention because a lot of folks now that mr. duncan passed away. airpla -- the faa announced in five
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airports there are additional screenings taking place from passengers coming from the three places in west africa. the passengers coming off the flight will take it to an isolated area. their temperatures checked and so this is taken has a turn here. and sadly we have seen thousands of people die in west africa. we've had four or five americans who have survived. but this is a deadly virus, folks. and folks need to remember that. we're happy that the folks who survived the disease or the virus have survived. but this is a very deadly virus. we're seeing that in africa. it's spreading out of control. >> thank you very much. we have the statement in. dr. david laky, a commissioner of the texas department of health services reads the past week has been an enormous test of our health system. for one family it's been more personal. today they lost a dear member of their family.
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they have our con dodolenccondo. we provide compassionate care. ebola attacks the body in many ways. we're going it take a quick break. we'll be right back with more of the breaking news. confirmed information that thomas eric duncan, the first person diagnosed in the united states with ebola has passed at 7:51. local time 8:51 eastern time, according to the texas hospital. we'll be right back. how uncomfortable it can be. [ crickets chirping ] but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? [ exhales deeply ] [ male announcer ] well there is biotene. specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants, biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. [ applause ] biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth.
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frank esper from case university hospitals. we know you didn't treat mr. duncan. you've been following this case as well like so many of us. what is your first reaction to the news that this is now the first case diagnosed in the united states and now the first patient to die in the u.s. after three successes. >> yeah, my heart goes out to the patient and his family and the staff working tirelessly to help this patient. unfortunately ebola is severe. it has a mortality that is high even in the best of circumstances. and i know they have been doing everything they can to support him in order for his immune system, hopefully to be able to eradicate the virus. it doesn't seem like it happened this time. we know according to reports he
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was given an experimental drug. he was given an experimental drug here. even with the first case with dr. kent brantly. when doctors were asked if the experimental serum he was given actually made a difference. at the time they said there was no conclusive information if it helped one way or the other. doctors heavily depended on hydration. some of the basic things that were not available in west africa allowed them to have some success here in the united states with three of the patients. >> yes. that is true. it's a different medication than some of the other treatments they've used in other patient ourselves the last several months. most of the patient wes had been hearing about, the ones in atlanta and over in nebraska where we brought them back to the country for treatment have been receiving a lot of antibots against the particular virus.
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we think the anti-bodies are killing the virus itself. the medicine with one of the most standard types of medication we develop for viruss and bacteria and more sophisticated going against the dna or the rna of the virus that helps kill the virus at the genetic level. the standard care for all the ebola -- whether they get the experimental treatment or not. the standard care -- how well they're clotting to give them blood when they're getting anemiaic or support their blood pressure or heart rate or give them the fluids they need. it's meticulous care. their fluids can get topsy turvy sometimes. we have to watch closely throughout the day and night. >> absolutely. in looking at the time lines
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here, again, thomas duncan. according to the information we received he started showing symptoms september 24th. that's when he was taken to the hospital. he was examined but sent home with antibiotics. he told hospital staff he travelled to liberia. september 28th he was taken to the same hospital and admitted. it was after family members contacted the centers for disease control and prevention. when you look at time line here and how it seemed this body -- his body was ravaged so quickly put him in a medically induced coma. i'm looking at the time line of dr. kent brantly. he was treated and flown to georgia august 2nd and by august 21st with he was free of the virus after being released from emery. obviously someone -- i'll ask you. does age, your medical history, what are the things that play a role in, you know, one patient
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along the same time line being able to leave virus free. >> every patient is very different. as you bring up there's a lot of things that go to an individual's ability to fight off an infection. how good their immune system is. what other medical props they may have they have diabetes or problems in their lungs to begin with. medications they may already be taking. if they're on steroids to treat asthma or if they're on other medications that may reduce your immune response. there's a lot of different factors. and every patient is different. even with the same disease. there are individuals who will be able to have very few complications and with the same germ from the same case a different patient will be very sick and can succumb to their illness. ebola is still a disease that we are still learning a lot about. unfortunately we're learning a lot about this disease in the
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worse possible scenario of such an outbreak we're trying to control. for, you know, when we see the worst disease. it usually happens when people get the sickest. it's usually five to six days after they start having the fever and start feeling unwell. and so that kind of makes sense for him that he really started to kdeteriorate. he got unfortunately became very ill with the kidneys and with the medically induced coma. there was a lot of problems he was having pretty much to begin with. >> i ask you to standby. the mayor of dallas released a statement expressing his condolences. it includes this part. i want to reinforce to the public it's an isolated incident of the ebola virus contracted by the individual while residing in another country. this is sad news for all involved but we continue to work in partnership with dallas
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county to do everything possible to protect our public health and all of the city of dallas. let me go to charles hadlock in the dallas area now. he's at the hospital and standing by. obviously, charles, the focus is on the missteps, if there were. it seems to be in great concern regarding that. but also, the people who came in direct contact with mr. duncan. and what their status is right now and all the people have been located. what can you tell us? >> all the people have been located. in fact the health officials have narrowed that list down to 48. 10 of them came in direct contact with mr. duncan. that include the doctors and paramedics and family. another 38 others came in contact with those ten. they are all being monitored. according to the health official the we spoke with, they're not showing any symptoms at all of ebola. in fact, all of them are very healthy and well this morning.
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at this point, they will remain in quarantine. is it through october 19th or are we certain that given the developments with him and some have already expressed concern over the time line of the symptoms when he was contagious. will they be released at this time? >> they should be released after the 19th. that would be the end of the 21-day period when they were first exposed to mr. duncan when he was in dallas and not contained in the hospital. so they will be watching those patients for the next 11 days until next sunday, october 19th. >> charles, thank you very much. we're going to continue to follow this breaking news. as you've heard, thomas eric duncan has died in a texas hospital. he's the official ebola patient diagnosed in the united states and the first to be treated in the united states and die from this virus. we'll continue to follow this breaking news. we'll be right back with more information.
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welcome back. moments ago an appeal from secretary of state john kerry for more nations to step up in the fight against ebola. take a listen. >> we need more countries to move resources of specific kinds. it is not just a question of sending people. though it is vital to send people. we need ebola treatment units. we need health care workers. we need mobile laboratory and staff. we need nonmedical support, telecommunications, generators, incinerators, public communications capacity, training, construction. >> again, secretary kerry spoke after meeting with britain's foreign secretary on ebola and the battle against isis. he didn't reference the death of thomas eric countduncan. we don't know if he was aware of the news. let me bring in nbc pete
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williams. we started off the hour reporting that breaking developing news regarding travelers from west africa and new precautions being taken. what is the latest there? >> right, tamron. the government has been watching since the summer for people who show obvious science of sickness. in is going to be different now. starting at some of the five most busy airports that have flights from west africa. jfk, newark, d.c., o'hare, and atlanta. everyone who has been to west africa to the nations where ebola is the most prominent will get a questionnaire. they'll have to have their temperature taken. it will give the government phone numbers they can reach people if there are problems. all of them will be given the card that is from the cdc. it says what to watch out for. to take your temperature, to go to a doctor if you think you developed symptoms. and if they got doctor they take this card with them. you can see the cdc logo here. it tells the doctor this is a
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person who has been to west africa who may have symptoms. put them in isolation. and then it also says you can go to the cdc website if you're in doubt about the protocols. so it's an increased amount of screening. and the government hopes this will give them a better handle on, a., who has been there, and b., warn the people, and c., potentially spot people who might jeopardize the health care system or at least warrant further followup. >> all right, pete. thank you very much. and obviously there are many questions that are coming in. we'll continue to follow the news including there is a plan the cdc, by the way, has a clear guideline for what must happen now to mr. duncan's remains. as many of you know, from the extensive reporting on ebola. the virus did live in bodily fluids and tissue so long that they can actually contaminate people. as a result the centers for
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disease control and prevention have clear guidelines for hospitals including the hospital in texas where mr. duncan passed away regarding the handling of his body and the safest way no others, including the hospital staff and anyone at a mortuary, for example, are exposed to this virus that can linger at least three days after an individual has passed away. we'll continue to follow the breaking developments on this very sad news for the duncan family and news of concern, as you can imagine, for people throughout watching this disease. it's already taken the lives of some 3,000 people in west africa and some 7,200 others have been infected. we'll be right back. owth is gra. owth is gra. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money.
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but i want to take you now to omaha, nebraska. kate snow is standing by there. that is where the freelance photo journalist working with nbc was d with ebola. we reported earlier he was receiving a transfusion from dr. kent brantly, one of the survivors of ebola who was treated at emery. >> reporter: right. important to remember, tamron, that there have only been six people treated in this country for ebola ever. this is brand new medicine. i had a doctor say to me yesterday, we're in a brave new world here. so they're trying everything they can. i know here in nebraska, they're trying this transfusion from dr. kent brantly. it's an interesting story. he got a phone call yesterday. turns out he's a match of blood type with the patient here. that's just random. you know, they happen to be the same blood type and they could take a transfusion of his blood,
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which he donated on the road. he was on a road trip, he pulled over in kansas city, went to a blood bank, donated blood, they flew it here to nebraska overnight and some time today, that's going to be put -- transfused into the patient here. now, the difference between here and thomas eric duncan in dallas is that this is a person who caught his disease early. fortunately for him, he saw the symptoms when he was over in liberia, when he was with dr. nancy snyderman. had a slight fever, felt achy, went to the doctor. it was caught early. he was sent over here days later. and so he is relatively speaking, in fairly good condition. whereas when i was in dallas and we were covering the situation there, it was quite a different story. unfortunately, thomas eric duncan's disease had already progressed quite a bit by the time he got into the hospital. >> quickly, kate, because we're out of time. mr. duncan started showing symptoms on the 24th, but he did go to the hospital two days later. but was sent home.
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so on the similar time line of seeing symptoms and going in for medical care, seeing that duncan two days later did seek care and was sent home. >> right. i think there are going to be a lot of questions about that now, tamron, obviously. a lot of questions about who did what, who dropped the ball. but the unfortunate truth now s is, his family i'm sure is mourning and our condolences with them. >> thank you very much, kate snow, joining us for this breaking news. we'll continue to follow the latest developments. this is "news nation." up next, my colleague andrea mitchell will take over our coverage. no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51. ♪ they cut the power. it'll fix itself. power's back on. quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids
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