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knew him dying could be a possible outcome. his fiancee, louise, who he traveled to america to marry, released a statement which reads in part, his suffering is over. i trust a thorough examination will take place in regards to all aspects of his case. the hospital is coming under scrutiny for originally discharging him from the er on the 24th before admitting him on the 28th when he returned in an ambulance. he also did not receive a blood transfusion from dr. kent brantly who is in the process of giving blood to two patients. brantly says he was willing to give duncan the transfusion when he was asked but he was never contacted again by the hospital and he assumes, joy, because the two weren't a match. however, the hospital not commenting on that or anything else right now. back to you. >> nbc sarah doloff in dallas, thank you very much. now let's get more on those stepped up screenings at u.s. airports. luke russert is at dulles
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international. what does this entail? is this for passengers coming from direct flights from the affected countries on the african continent or also people coming from connecting flights? >> reporter: well, joy, 94% of passengers that come from the west africa nations that are affected by ebola pass through the five airports you mentioned, dulles, jfk, atlanta, newark, so they'll be monitored from the direct flights and we understand the connecting flights, trying to get that idea of what the passenger's itinerary was. but the process itself is actually quite interesting. when these passengers arrive, known from one of these west african countries, they will be taken into a special quarantined area, where they will then have their temperatures taken by a thermometer. one of those hands-free ones, they put it on people's foreheads. from there, if they display signs of having a fever, they will then be put in front of a public health official who will
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make a judgment call as to whether to release that person into the country or whether or not they should be under further medical supervision. there's also going to be an element of having a questionnaire, sort of asking people if they could have been exposed to ebola while they were in west africa. and there's also going to be an element of, okay, even if you don't display any signs right here, we're going to ask for your contact information. we want you to take a temperature log for 21 days. and if you, by any chance, have a fever, go see a doctor immediately. and they will be giving these passengers a little handout which describes what they should, in fact, say to the medical professionals if they eventually have to go there. make no mistake about it, joy, this is something fairly unprecedented. temperatures being taken of passengers from a certain country -- certain countries, rather. and this is on the heels of a lot of public officials, including new york senator chuck schumer calling for more to be
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done here domestically to guard against the ebola outbreak. i spoke to some passengers at the airport to ask their opinion. most anecdotally said they were very supportive of this. thought it was a good idea. certainly interesting when you have border patrol officials, cdc officials taking passengers, asking them questions, possibly quarantining them. really intrusive for people coming back. >> yeah, very interesting, and indeed intrusive 37 and somewhat limited, too . thank you, luke. dr. irwin redliner is the director for national center for disaster preparedness. doctor, you heard what luke russert was saying. they're going to take passengers specifically from the three countries most affected, screen them at the airport. which begs the question, at least for me, what happens to somebody who's coming in from london but they just spent two weeks in liberia? you're not screening them. >> no, exactly right. there has to be a mechanism, though, for finding out what is
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the country of origin. not where is the country from the last stop. what's the country of the last stop. so, i think there's a lot of fine-tuning we have to do if this is going to work. there are some other nuances here, including the fact that if somebody's given a questionnaire in writing, they're more likely to shade the truth a little bit. those questions should actually be asked verbally, orally, so that we're making eye contact, we're asking, did you have contact with anybody? are you sure you didn't? and that kibnd of questioning tends to be more effective than, say, just checking off a form. >> if you're basically sectioning off people who come from certain countries, that message obviously gets out. what is the incentive to be fully cooperative or fully honest on the questionnaire and then you're doing this sort of honor system, saying, fill out this diary for a week? it strikes me as a rather inefficient way to potentially stop the ebola virus. >> i agree with you. the options are limited. without doing something totally draconian, like people suggest
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we stop any entry of anybody who's ever been in that country or stop travel in and out of the effected countries, that's not practical. it's not reasonable. it wouldn't work. and so, we really have to depend on some level on the person's integrity in answering it properly. and that's where we are right now. >> and depending so much on human function, right? the proper human function of public health officials, too. let's turn to that question when it comes to thomas eric duncan, the gentleman from liberia, the first person inside the united states to die from ebola. the two days when he was sent home, just in your professional opinion, is that deposittive, being he is the only person being treated in the united states not to survive? >> you know, it's always very difficult to make something of one single case. mean, first of all, he obviously should not have been sent home. he should have been admitted to the hospital right at that moment. these issues about the breakdown of communication of the hospital are just, you know, hardly worth discussing, just off the wall.
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and we -- but what we can say is would he have survived, which is the key question right now, if he had gotten treatment earlier. it's almost impossible to say. here's what would have happened, though. he may have been hydrated earlier. hydration and support of bodily functions is very important. also, he would have maybe had a chance to have more, if he hadn't passed away right now, more of the experimental treatments that might be available. >> and i think that's the point. there is no specific cure for ebola, but it's mostly supportive treatment. so, you've get on to figure that 48 more hours of that supportive treatment certainly couldn't have hurt. what about this notion that the hospital has not responded yet to the question of whether they were willing to offer the kent brantly blood transfusion offer to mr. duncan? what do you make of that? is it not worth at least trying that treatment? >> there's a point where there is no turning back and whatever
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treatments there might be, might not -- just wouldn't work. all of this experimental. none of this is backed by scientific, so for sure we know this is the magic bullet here. these are very difficult individual decisions. i don't think we should be second-guessing that kind of question at the hospital because there's too many factors involved here. what we do want to learn, though, what do we need to do for future patients that either show up symptoms here or somehow get through -- or whatever screening we have, are we prepared as a hospital system nationwide and a health care system and the public health system? right now, one of the things that's happened as a result of this one case is we've ripped the cover off, the scab off, some very, very disturbing problems in our health and public health system. >> we should emphasize, these are human problems, not just system problems. lastly, let's talk about how the remains of this poor gentleman
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should be handled. there will be potentially a funeral. there is now the question of how this hospital -- how the system in texas is going to handle this gentleman's remains. how should they be handled? >> first, you need to understand that the person is still contaminated, even after death for some number of days. the bodily fluids from that person, the blood and everything else will be -- will have the virus active in those materials. so -- but after a period of time, the person is no longer -- the body is no longer contaminated. >> do you know how long that is? >> yeah, it's about a four to six-day window after death, or if just -- you have blood out there, that will be contaminated still with the virus. so, how specifically they handle it? there may be some options but, you know, cremation is a possibility or keeping the body in appropriate safe situation and then burying later is also a possibility. but handling the corpse is a
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very dangerous situation. that's one reason it's been spread in those west african countries, too. so, there's a lot of factors here. we'll have to see what the options are available to people in dallas. >> and how they handle them, because so far it hasn't been stellar. hopefully, they'll step up to the plate. thank you very much, doctor. thank you for being here. coming up, as isis advances towards the kurdish border, the fbi launches a manhunt here in the u.s. to try to identify a possible american isis terrorist. plus, for the first time since the nfl's domestic abuse scandal broke, league owners are huddling in new york to talk about the recent changes. this as the vikings' adrian peterson makes his first appearance in court. people with type 2 diabetes
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welcome back. the fbi is asking for americans'
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help identifying a man who joined isis and its fight in syria. on tuesday the feds released an edited clip from a 55-minute video in which the man is heard speaking arabic and english as prisoners behind him are said to be digging their own graves. >> behind them you can see the officer's residence filled with bullet holes from the islamic states. this is the end of every that we get ahold of. this is the end that they face. >> nbc's pete williams is following the latest from washington. pete, how unusual is it for the fbi to turn to the public in this way in a case like this? >> in a case like this, it's somewhat unusual. just because the fbi doesn't often have video of suspected foreign terrorists to put up on the web. if they have pictures or people identify themselves, there's no need to seek public help. in this case, fbi and canadian authorities have looked at this
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video released by isis on september 19th, put on the internet, and they have not been able to identify this person using any of the tools they have, facial recognition software, voice recognition software, so they're turning to the only other thing they can, which is public help. but you think of all the times in the past that the fbi has released pictures or video or stills of bank robbers or whatever asking for help in identifying someone. the technique itself is not new. >> and, you know, it's interesting that they seem to have gotten not far, both mi6 and fbi in trying to identify these isis militants who wear that black mask so they seem to be turning to the accent, narrowing down the region. has that paid dividends in this case or the guy they called jihadi john? >> yes, in the case of jihadi john, u.s. and british officials say they believe they know who it is. they seem quite confident. they're not saying publicly who it is, but they say they are
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quite confident they know who that person is. in terms of the video you've been talking about here, the accent could be canadian, could be american. some people that have analyzed this tape say it sounds to them for whom english is a second language. some say this sounds like the accent of someone who is born of foreign parents, in other words, is first generation born in north america. there's lots of speculation. they just don't know who it is and that's what they would like to try to find out. >> that doesn't narrow it down at all. don't envy them their task. pete williams, thank you very much. less than an hour from now president obama will meet with senior military and national security advisers regarding the fight against isis. overnight the u.s. and coalition partners launched nine air strikes in support of syrian kurds being bee sieged by isis in the town of kobani near the turkish border. one of the key questions right now, though, is what role turkey is playing in the fight. a nato ally, turkey, so far has refused to use its large army to assist the embattled kurds a
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mile or two away from its border. t with protests resulting in up to 18 deaths so far. earlier today secretary of state john kerry was cautious in what he expects from upcoming talks with turkey's leaders about entering the fight against isis. >> so, i think you will see over the next hours, days, the fullness of that strategy evolving. and decisions being made about the turks and others as to exactly what role they're going to play. >> joining me now is nbc ayman and indira, contributor with bloomberg news. the conundrum, of course, turkey, nato ally, but they don't seem very motivated. why isn't turkey motivated about a fight literally on their door steps? >> right now the specific issue with turkey has to do with the
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kurdish population of koba achk. it is a stroenghold for the pk and others. isis is in a fight with groups turkish considers to be its enemy so they're slow to respond to defend the kurdish population of kobani. they're not going to let it fall but they're certainly not doing anything to prevent the onslaught of people in kobani and stop isis from attacking it. >> the one thing everyone seems to agree on, air strikes are not going to stop kobani from falling or really help to defeated isis. in the case of turkey, what do they get in return for at least sounding the right notes if they're not actually doing anything? >> look, i mean, this is something -- the first point you made, that the pentagon spokesman admiral kirby said very clearly today, we have to be prepared kobani may fall and air strikes is not enough to keep it standing. he sounded a depressing note.
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on the point of what does turkey want? let's keep in mind what are turkey's strategic goals? their main enemy in syria is bashar al assad. they've said many times they're willing to join a military coalition if it's i coalition from ousting assad from power. which is not what the isis campaign has been so far. turkey has also talked about a buffer zone, a protected zone within syrian land that would be a place to keep refugees and also to train anti-assad syrian rebels who might also be anti-isis rebels. that's something the white house has already said is not currently on the table. i think there are many things turkey wants. and a no-fly zone, which is against assad's air force. >> to that point, "the new york times" has a piece today where they talk about the politics
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that mr. erdogan is playing. turkey would not get more deeply involved in the conflict with the islamic state unless the united states agreed to give greater support to rebels trying to unsettle assad. united states has a goal that does not include toppling assad. >> turkey wants to see assad go. they're not actively doing anything in the eyes of the turks and arab allies, like qatar, who want to see united states getting assad to go. not attacking, but equipping the rebels in a more aggressive and robust way. that hasn't happened and that's why we're seeing these back door bargaining tactics taking place. the turks are saying to americans, you want our help with defeating isis, we need your help in defeating assad. either get on board with that or we won't have a deal in trying
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to solve this. caught in the middle are syrian people dying from both, isis and syrian -- >> the united states has failed to really help kurds in northern iraq in the past. now you see kurds dying in great number. we went to great lengths to save a religious minority under siege from isis at one point. it does strike me the kurds are being left aside here. is there anyone advocating for them in washington? >> well, there's certainly been running through the obama administration this sense of responsibility to protect and at what point do you get involved for humanitarian reasons, not for military reasons? secretary kerry was very careful to say, we want to avert a humanitarian disaster. he basically made the point the u.s. in these air strikes has been trying to put out one crisis after another. mt. sinjar, haditha dam, and this is a list in the series of crisis. the kurds are caught in the middle. this is a group who are
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protecting kobani from isis, who are regarded not only by turkey but the united states as a terrorist group. the kurdish group is associated with the pk. if isis were fighting against hezbollah, would we jump in and attack, you know, isis to -- if it meant helping hezbollah? i mean, it's a difficult question. >> yeah, it is a difficult question and tragic for the people that are there in kobani. thank you so much. thank you both. >> thank you. coming up, the vikings' adrian peterson appears in court as nfl owners gather in new york to talk for the first time about their plan of action following a series of domestic violence scandals. put your hands together for new nestlé© toll house delightfulls morsels, the chocolate you know and love now filled with caramel, peanut butter, cherry, and mint. so peanut butter up some brownies. and caramel-ify those chocolate chip cookies with new nestlé© toll house delightfulls. bake some love™ never miss a chance to dance.
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♪ welcome back. right now nfl owners are here in new york holding their first meeting since the scandal over domestic violence first erupted. nfl commissioner roger goodell will hold a live news conference at the conclusion of that meeting.
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it comes on the day that running back adrian peterson, one of the league's biggest stars, appeared in a texas courtroom on charges of child abuse. peterson did not enter a plea, however, and prosecutors are asking the judge to recuse himself from the case. the news conference also comes as questions remain as to how diligently goodell and the nfl have policed domestic violence in the wake of that shocking varlt incident involving former baltimore ravens running back ray rice. ray tucker, now with the nbc sports network. ross, let's talk about what the nfl is going to meet today to talk about. is this their task force of women or is this just a feel-good meeting to say, you know what, we care? >> i think it's more than that, joy, because i think they realize how important this situation is now. there's a crisis of confidence in terms of the nfl from a lot of the fans. i think they recognize that. listen, there's owners like jerry jones and robert kraft who
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neither one of them have ever merit a microphone they didn't like that they said nothing today when they were asked about it. right now, the nfl is being very, very tight-lipped about the next steps they're going to take. they realize when goodell speaks, that he needs to be the one to put out there the new procedures. it has to go well. the last couple of times he has spoken publicly, it has not been the case. >> you talk about a crisis of confidence among the fans, but has that shown up in the numbers, the ratings for these games, the a tickets being sold at games? are fans exhibiting that crisis of confidence in the way they're spending with the nfl? >> joy, it really hasn't. that's sometimes been the argument from a lot of people like, yeah, some of these guys have done obviously some horrific things off the field. but i think people wonder sometimes how much fans really care. you know, i think a lot of times people, joy, they don't really care what these guys do off the field. i've had people tell me when i was a player, they didn't care about performance-enhancing drugs. they didn't care about any of
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that stuff. they just wanted to watch the games on thursday night or sunday or monday night and they're still watching the games and coming to the stadiums in droves. so as of yet, there's been absolutely no financial impact on the nfl. the buffalo bills were approved today, they sold for $1.4 billion. the nfl just got a crazy new deal with directv, despite everything else going around off the field, the business of the nfl is absolutely booming, as usual. >> and is that why, last question, roger goodell seems to still be in place and doesn't seem to be going anywhere despite the bad and terrible pr? >> as the owners will say privately and i'm sure some of them publicly, that's going to be their number one concern, how the overall business of the nfl is. unless they have found that roger goodell has lied, and i doubt they'll find that, he's going to remain the commissioner of the nfl. >> appreciate it. coming up, an update on the
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ebola scare in the u.s. then, we'll have the latest on the recent incidents of reasonable force by police, including what you should know about your rights if you're ever pulled over. (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! (all) awesome! i love logistics.
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so i can focus on what matters most. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. welcome back to "the reid report." in half an hour, officials from a local church will hold a press conference on behalf of the family of thomas eric duncan. duncan died earlier today, ten days after he was admitted to a dallas hospital. the cdc has released guidelines for hospitals and mortuaries dealing with ebola-contaminated bodies, including not embalming the body, using a her mmeticall secured casket. travelers will now go through additional screening at five of the nation's major airports. including atlanta, newark, new york city, chicago and the washington, d.c. metro area.
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elsewhere today, attorney general eric holder and former president bill clinton spoke to mayors and police chiefs from across the country at the clinton presidential library in little rock. the theme of today's event was lessons to be learned from ferguson, which included the announcement of at least one new initiative. >> this morning i'm proud to announce through the c.o.p.s. office, they are awarding a community policing grant to advance the conference of mayors work to reduce youth violence through enhanced collaboration. now, this -- [ applause ] >> it's a conversation that comes not just on the heels of historic protests over mike brown's shooting death at the hands of ferguson police officer darren wilson, but also as several police departments around the country are facing allegations of excessive force. allegations often accompanied by cell phone or surveillance video that captures all or part of what happened. one of those cases is playing out in ham montd, indiana, near
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chicago where a family is suing the police department alleging excessive force, false arrest and assault and battery. lisa mahone and jamal jones sat down with me on this show yesterday to recount the details of a traffic stop over a seat belt violation. although the video did not cap tutor entire incident, can you see hammond police officer smashing in the passenger window and tasing jones twice in front of the couple's two children. >> is there a reason why you didn't want to get out of the car as the officers were asking you to? >> there was officers asking me to step out of the vehicle. they asked lisa to get out of the vehicle first. once the driver said she wasn't getting out of the vehicle, i wasn't going to leave my family in the vehicle by themselves, so that's that's what made me tell them that. >> in new york city, two nypd officers are under criminal investigation for use of excessive force. the surveillance video shows two officers catch up with a
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16-year-old suspect of selling marijuana in brooklyn. the officer throws a punch at him. after the teen briefly raises his hands in the air, the other officer hits him in the head with his gun. representative for the nypd says the matter is under internal review adding that one officer has been suspended without pay and another has been placed on modified duty and relieved his badge and gun. the brooklyn district attorney is also investigating. all of this as the family of eric garner has taken the first formal step of suing the city and nypd for $75 million. garner's family says officers acted recklessly and negligent lently in wrestling him to the ground using a chokehold. eugene o'donnell, a professor of law and police studies at john j. college criminal justice and ezekiel edwards, director of law
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at aclu. let's start with the fact what we're seeing are relatively minor incidents, traffic stop for seat belt violation, resulting in incredibly violent confrontations. in the case of mr. garner, the death of mr. garner. why do you suppose these relatively minor incidents are escalating so far? is this police poor training? what's going on here? >> new york police department they acknowledge the training is poor and they're actually rerunning everybody through the training. i think the larger issue is making sure police officers, especially in the hammond case, force is last choice. we need to be looking at officers individually to see how many officers are repeatedly having to use force versus officers who seem to be invariably able to settle things peacefully. >> i think when you look at the video of the hammond case specifically, would it, at least to the naked eye, is an officer
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use force out of frustration because the gentleman wouldn't get out of the car. just in frustration he decided to smash the car window. are police officers allowed to do that because you're not listening to them? >> it's a profound reality when police pull you over, you're not free to leave. the stakes are high. you hope common sense will prevail. supervisors are on the scene and hopefully supervisors supervise. i'm always concerned supervisors sometimes go beyond what officers do. rather than bringing situations down and exsizing good judgment and being leaders, sometimes supervisors escalate situations. every alternative possible should be used before you use force in a situation, especially with a minor offense with children present. >> and you definitely get the feeling at least in the case of hammond, you have patrick vacari, charles turner and others unknown subject to the lawsuit, and according to the lawsuit vicari has been named in three previous lawsuits in the use of excessive force against
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citizens as well as arrest without probable cause and officer turner has been named in one other case. when you talk about officers with multiple cases against them, is there a right for the civilians to know about the history of officers on the force. >> first, i just want to note that while the officers are authorized to ask somebody to get out of a car, as long as the stop is lawful, there are a constitutional grounds that cover what kind of force they can use. it can't be excessive. and if they are investigating a minor crime, if they're not in fear of their safety, if the subject has shown no dangerous behavior, they can't use the kind of force that was shown here in hammond, indiana. another problem you highlight is that officers who are often disciplined or actually discharge or fired from police departments then go and get jobs at other police departments. we see that all around the country. so, there's not a system in place where the communities and even police departments
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themselves can know what an officer's history is. but i do also want to touch on the fact that you talked about enforcement of low-level offenses. we have to look in this country at the way police are overenforcing minor infractions in communities of color selectively all around the country. we put out a report last year on marijuana arrests that showed massive disparities in marijuana possession despite equal rates of use among blacks and whites. this is going on in communities all across america. and not only should that be examined but then how does a seat belt stop or a stop for selling untaxed cigarettes end up in somebody being tased, kids getting hurt or somebody dieing? >> in the case of the nypd case, this was a marijuana offense, the brooklyn d.a. has reduced enforcement saying they're not going to bother with low-levels of marijuana so this teenager gets beaten with the butt of a gun over something that is now in brooklyn codified as something relatively minor. what about when children are
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present. are police trained or at least advised they should act differently when children are present? >> we are overenforcing but i wouldn't dismiss the fact that police would be concerned this event played on for many, many minutes and people weren't acquiescing. is there something bad we don't see? of course, with children present, if the adults are endangering the children, the police officers have to be the peace officers and avoid using force at all possible. >> they didn't even acknowledge them. two pieces of law in play here -- >> i have to say something on the children present. the aclu put out a report this past june on the militarization of police and we looked at s.w.a.t. raids. one disturbing thing we found is in these s.w.a.t. raids, nonemergency situations, usually for nonviolent crimes, the police either knew children were present or didn't investigate to see whether they were present,
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conducted military-style violent s.w.a.t. raids that ended up injuring children, including, for instance, a flash grenade that landed in a baby's crib and exploded. if they're not paying attention on s.w.a.t. raids if children are present, it's not surprising they conducted themselves this way with the children were in the backseat. >> or a teenager, there doesn't seem to be much of a distukz. there's another case about neighbors who called in a burglary call because the foster child of a white family, and the child happens to be black, was going in his own house. when he questioned police, why are you stopping me, a legitimate question, he got pepper sprayed. it doesn't seem there's a whole lot of restraint in play. >> that's ultimately the issue. police are peace officers. to the greatest extent possible, nonviolence resolution of events has to be the order of the day. >> are people legitimately -- is it legitimate when you hear people say they are afraid? >> i think the black community particularly. you hear people who are not -- have never broken a law in their
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lives and say that to you all the time. that's a profound issue. we have to stop pretending police work is done equally in our country. we're talking about policing, race relations in the country. >> same question to. >> you one way to address that is right now police are much more like occupying forces in many more communities of color. they need to be extensions of the community. so, they have to be sharing accountability and really actually sharing with the community in decisions about how does a community want to be policed and have a much more democratic process. you need transparency. you need accountability. you need more officers who are from the community. right now we really have an us versus them mentality. that's just going to lead to more tragic situations like this. >> over very minor things. i can't say that enough. thank you both for being here. really appreciate it. we'll be right back. ugh you. suddenly you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right.
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time for our series "generation to generation" which brings together current leaders and the people who influenced and inspired them for frank conversation with policy, policies and the state of our culture. we sat down with author larry cramer who wrote "the normal
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heart" as well as dan savage. we talked to them about how their activism is making a difference for the lbgt community. ♪
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who are being raised the problems with being gay is you don't learn your history because it isn't taught up. don't learn it from your family. you have to get out there and educate yourself. and that's why it's important that you have productions like the normal heart, the film is on hbo. >> could you tell me precisely.
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>> the doctor, the julia roberts played, in a wheelchair. she had polio. >> have you told them there's an epidemic going on. >> i should have looked like that. >> and the emmy goes to "the normal heart." >> reached into our psyches and hearts and tore out those inhibitions and turned it around for us. ♪ >> how many friends have you lost to this disease? >> 20. >> i don't think people realize how awful it is when everyone
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around you is dying. >> we have to come up with new ways now. we are dying. there is a new infection every single minute. >> federal health officials say the number of cases will climb from the current level to 270,000 by the end of 1991. >> when you're young and gay and hiding, what you don't want is to be seen. you don't want to be noticed. and, unfortunately, that emotional dynamic left us really handicapped when there was this health crisis where we needed to be public visible and demanding and angry. >> they weren't scared enough to fight, which is what i wanted them to do. >> larry identified that, that core. larry was that nuclear reactor. >> i'm a firm believer in anger. >> basically that brand of activism said here's a doable thing. show up at this time, this place and do this doable thing and you will help make change. >> it was amazing. we learned how to use the anger to go after our enemies.
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>> i feel like my activism in the column is very similar. you know, with the it gets better project we have identified a very doable thing. sit in front of your computer, talk for ten minutes and upload that video to youtube. it's a doable thing and you have no excuse not to do it. that was really the act up model. that kind of activism is very empoweri empowering. act up changed the world. >> and dan savage will take your questions with an i don't know online chat. you can go to reidreport.msnbc.com to submit your question. we'll host his answers on friday. that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you back here tomorrow at 2 p.m. eastern. be sure to visit us online at thereidreport.msnbc.com. "the cycle" is up next. hello, cyclists. >> hello, joy. we're covering, of course, this first death from ebola here in the united states. a big story and one where people have understandable questions.
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deal dig through that. also a look at isis as people say we may need to do more on the ground there. a big policy question for the president. all of that coming up in our hour. >> that sounds like a plan. "the cycle" is up next.
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service. security. savings. synchrony bank engage with us. snoou breaking news leads "the cycle" as we come on the air. president obama is headed to the pentagon with the ebola crisis taking a drastic new turn. the first ebola case diagnosed in the u.s. has ended in get. thomas eric duncan passed away in dallas. his treatment was initially delayed two days when he was sent home from want hospital with antibiotics. he returned and was soon in critical condition. duncan was receiving experimental drug to battle ebola but didn't respond. ten people who had direct contact with him remain under quarantine. they'll receive daily checks until next sunday. that includes the woman duncan came here to the states to marry. now she is planning his funeral. we will hear from her local
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pastor live shortly. now, there are strict cdc guidelines concerning how duncan's remains can be handled. two options, cremation or immediate burial in a hermetically sealed casket. we'll hear live from the cdc at 4 p.m. live on that. president obama wrapped up a call with the state and local leaders on the possibility, the possibility, of additional ebola patients in the united states. the cdc continues to train health care professionals nationwide. connecticut declared a public medical emergency. >> they're intensifying and i'd like to be able to reassure the audience we are doing as much as we possibly can. >> president obama is at a big pentagon meeting this hour focused in part on the military's fight here. their role in dealing with ebola. the first