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tonight about what he would do and we could not get that answer. and, sam, he can take as long as he wants, he could take months to decide this if he wants. the suspense could be ongoing. voting in a dangerous world. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. ebola. the fellow who just got here just died here. there may be another case nearby in texas. isis, camer talking what could be english. soldiers dig their own graves around him. how much with the fear of ebola and the gut anger at isis drive this country a month before it votes?
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only the we gauge the fear and the anger in the american heart as we're asked to make a big decision on whom we can trust. first the three states that i think will decide whether president obama loses the u.s. senate. second, a look at the big states. pennsylvania, florida, illinois, wisconsin, that could pick democratic governors and by that decision shift the ground under the 2016 presidential election. won't hillary like having that? and the round table takes on the unspoken biggy. what will the dangers of ebola which is no longer entirely offshore and the anger against isis which lies deep in our gut do to the voter entering the voting place? will it drive them to change? tonight we try hard to find out. joining me, president of emily's list. and rick a former spokesman for newt gingrich. let's all watch what happened in the big senate debates over the last 24 hours and today. let's watch. >> his whole career has been as
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a partisan political operative. he says elect me and then i'll be bipartisan. >> he would be the only senator from his own words has built a career around outsourcing american jobs. that is not the experience that we need in washington. >> another another attempt by my desperate opposition to use one line out of a 186-page document, out of a 186-page document to define a career. >> senator haguin's voted with president obama 96% of the time. she served as a rubber stamp for president obama's failed policies. >> speaker tillis wants to make this race about the president. this race is about who will represent north carolina in the u.s. senate. >> trying to get greg orman's position on any issue is like trying to nail jello to the wall. >> he wonderful recognize senator warner today. >> when you vote as many times as you have with the president,
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99% of the time, you are tied hook, line and sink he to the president. >> he has shown he has the capability to filibuster. we don't need that. >> is the government that behaves like two children fighting in the back seat of a driverless car what we want to hand off to future generations? if it is, i'm not your guy. >> only the i want to focus sharply on what i believe are the key senate races this november. north carolina. where we're going this week. colorado and iowa based upon their plausible victories elsewhere, republicans may need just one of these to win control of the senate. first, kay haggan has been guarding a slim lead over tillis. she leads by 1 point. look where north carolina women are, putting their support. hagan has a huge lead. 39-34%. last night she challenged tillis for his claim on equal pay for
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women. i think he makes a mistake here. >> speaker tillis, north carolina women earn just 82 cents on the dollar compared to their male counter parts. in the general assembly you kill an equal pay bill and you said you don't support a proposed equal pay bill in congress. why don't you support these bills to ensure that women get equal pay for equal work? >> well, senator, you probably know that there are laws on the books that it is against the law to do something that any employer does. he should pay the consequences. let's enforce the laws on the books. versus some of the campaign gimmicks that will put more regulations on businesses and make it even more difficult. >> i think he said something about a gimmick there? >> he did. he is so out of touch with the voters of north carolina that he thinks equal pay is a political gametic, a campaign gimmick. women are only 82 cents to the dollar in north carolina.
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this is a real issue. this is why this election, not just in north carolina but around the country, is about women voters and the issues facing women and families. >> it is not a rape comment, at least. but it does give the women a case now. this guy doesn't almost us. >> you have to remember that this figure you just cited, 82 cents on the dollar happened in the obama administration. i assume an obama who missed isis which you were very critical for him might have missed the wage gap in his white house. if he wanted to set that prioritiering would have set the wage gap. people have to decide whether they want to vote for kay hagan or tom tillis. >> what do you make of the women gap? that women are for her. >> i point out that 51% are not for her shelf did get 49. there is admittedly a gap there. but 51% of the women are not supporting. >> 34% of your guy.
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>> more than half the women are saying they are not voting for kay hagan. >> but women are deciding as we speak. here we have tom tillis saying equal pay is a campaign issue. why we're seeing growing gender gaps, not just in north carolina. >> it is shrinking. >> look at this. i'm ahead of you here. look at colorado where over the past month, democratic senator mark udall had been building a slight edge but late today, good news for you, fox news poll in the field, october 4-7. a good poll has cory gardner beating udall 43-37. here again it breaks out the women's vote. and answer this one. it shows colorado women over whelmingly supporting udall. 49-34%. the same exact percentage you saw in north carolina. are women wrong in every state by the way you look at it?
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>> no. i think the poll is a news cycle behind. i think the poll has not reacted to ebola. it has not reacted to the lack of action of isis. >> it was taken yesterday. the public opinion lacks the news cycle. >> we can't give you a more recent poll than last night and you're complaining. that's ridiculous. >> all the polls are trending our way. everyone of them. >> i'm pointing out, why were the women still consistent against the republicans? that's all i'm asking. >> ask the women. >> and we have done a lot of research into women voters. not just recently. it is consistent. they are concerned about their economic security. all of these issues are incredibly important. they're all important. it is about economic security. unless you're a candidate talking about issues they care about, equal parks minimum wage, and access to health care which is a huge issue. and you have candidates who are voting against women regularly. >> here's that debate. here's udall.
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he was unpolyjet whik the moderator challenged him about making women issues. let's watch udall. >> mr. udall, your campaign has been so focused on women's issues that you've been doubled mark uterus. have you gone too far. >> lynn, reproductive rights are important to millions of coloradans. if congressman gardner hadn't built his entire career on littling women's reproductive choices, we would not be having this discussion today. is that what it is about? abortion? >> tell me the names of the kids' classmates. women, they tend in our traditional family setting to know everything about running the family. they know everything about health, education. the men are out to lunch on these issues. no wonder women care more about education. >> and health care.
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>> you're talking my language. >> the health care got canceled. they noticed the premiums went up. they noticed they lost the pediatrician. >> they also have pre existing conditions covered and they can keep their kids on longer. >> not if they don't have insurance. >> they have insurance. >> what we're seeing is the result of this in these gentler gaps. >> so under this obama administration -- >> one other thing, the republicans clearly know they have a problem. what we're getting from kory gardner and scott brown are these running away from their past positions. >> i think cory -- >> let us take a look. >> a woman candidate running as a republican. here joni ernest is known for one thing. it has them 40-40. this is why i called this the key election. this could decide whether
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republicans get control of the senate. braley is 42. so women are not voting for the woman because she is a woman. they're voting for the male candidate because they agree with his positions. >> and they're not going to vote for the woman as a woman. they're going to vote for the pro woman candidate. >> therefore they should vote for cory gardner who introduced, oh birth control pills. >> is that a gimmick? >> it's a good idea but it is a gimmick. in do you have want a doctor to recommend birth control pills? >> if you cared about access to birth control, he would be standing by plan parenthood that provides birth control across this country. >> maybe doctors should be here toll us, should you have to have a prescription to buy birth control pills? >> that's a question that needs to happen with scientists who
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understand all of this. >> what do you think? >> it would be wonderful if we could make it easier to get access and that it was affordable or paid for. it is an incredibly expensive thing. and birth control is not a social issue. >> are you with the republicans on it over the downer? >> a pharmaceutical hasn't gone to the fda. it would be a great thing to have easier access but it has to be covered. and republicans don't want it covered and that's an economic issue. >> douglas mccarthy would be proud of you. >> this is a fight going on with the american people right now for the battle for the senate. and i believe it will come down to iowa. and men voting for the castrator is very strange. a pal of mine of recent vintage. and a reminder, i'll within senator kay hagan this weekend. we'll have reporting on that race. brought to you on monday.
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we'll start doing this. it is not just the bat for the senate control coming up. 36 governors races across the country are happening as we speak. remember how jeb bush helped down there? think about the big swing states. florida this time, rick scott to lose to chris christie. and wisconsin, walker could lose. and then hillary clinton runs for president in 2016, she'll want those states under democratic control and it looks very good. plus the death of an ebola patient in texas. americans are watching some frightening events. here's a sad statement about the state of affairs in america right now. >> we asked americans a very simple question. that question was, who is joe biden?
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>> who is joe biden? >> i have no idea. do you want to take a guess? >> a man. >> any way, don't these people follow the news? more on jimmy kimmel's interviews in the side show. finally, let me finish with why that isis video demands the u.s. government take a stand.
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here's one more interesting poll. it come from south dakota. a state that should safely be in republican hands by now. according to robo poll,
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republican mike rounds who has been leading by double digits now holds only a three-point lead over independent candidate larry pressler with rick weiland at 28%. he endorsed barack obama for president in 2008 and 2012. if pressler manages to win this november, the republicans may need an additional win somewhere else to take control of the senate. pressler looks like he's hot right now.
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in 2016, you want friends running those states. not enemies. tonight we'll spotlight the hottest. pat quinn, is locked in a dead heat with bruce ra you nor. and in new york, the double digit lead. then there are the 26 battle ground states. in pennsylvania, history can be made. tom corbett is in serious trouble. poefls show him trailing tom wolf by 15 points. and in florida we've got one of the most brutal contests of the season. democrats have a real chance at defeating rick scott. i don't like him. let's dive in. i'm joined by two former governors howard dean in vermont and bob ehrlich of maryland. thank you for joining us. these races are amazingly surprising. you have florida.
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you can flip a governor. governors get reelected. in pennsylvania, nobody has been defeated for re-election cynic you could run for re-election. illinois, quinn is in trouble, schneider is in trouble. walker could easily lose. the only governors are cuomo, a son of, and brown, a son of. everybody else is in the wind. why do we hate our governors? >> i don't know that we hate our governors but some of them are pretty controversial. rick scott and scott walker are really controversial. scott walker has been the subject of a recall which he beat back. but still. and so if you do controversial things, you're going to be talked about a lot. that's not always a good thing. so i think, you know, i think we're going to pick up governor seats which is kind of odd because we'll lose senate seats. i think we'll hold on to the senate but we'll clearly lose some seats but i think we'll pick up three or four governorships. a lot of it is because the people who were elected were pretty extreme and that will come back to haunt them.
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>> governor, thank you for joining us. i always admire your guts for running. you got a .333 batting average which is not bad for maryland. >> that will get you in the hall of fame in some leagues. >> in some leagues. is this because it is a tough time to be in any office? even though it is getting a little better. we got isis, ebola, everything coming at us. and you have to throw rock at somebody. you have to blame somebody. you don't blame the challenger. you blame the incumbent. >> i think there's a head wind out there of unpopular president. i disagree with howard. >> how about the unpopular governor of florida? let's throw that around. >> let's talk about pat quinn. he has 25% approval rating? >> 34. >> a lot of people are jump set. there is a lot of angst with the voters. you see it by the way in the approval ratings with respect to congress.
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although ironically, most house members will win. people hate congress these days. and i think you'll see not just the democrats lose seats in the senate. you will see republican control of the senate as well. >> governor dean, let me step out. you're a imagine of the left and i appreciate that. i rooted for you like mad when you ran for the president. let me ask you. could it be a lack of charisma? i look at guys like rick scott. what is the excitement? i look at quinn. he has this problem. i look at these guys. tom corbett of pennsylvania. did they just have a lucky run in ten? it was a good year and people asked, we put a guy in there and he is such a zero. is that what's going on? >> there was some of that in 2010. the tea party was in their full strength and they got to the polls. the people were not happy about obamacare. so some of these folks did get in.
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and it is natural that they'll be one termers as you'll see an echo of in '16 with the senators that got in. but some of them, i think pat quinn will win. for the 34% approval rating, he is really coming back from the dead. >> he's running quite a campaign. i get stuff from his every hour. >> the research is pretty good and he said some pretty outrageous things in the past and that's coming back to haunt him. the same is true in georgia and the senate race. this guy who looks like he could be a great candidate seem to be very proud of outsourcing american jobs. that doesn't go over on either side for the voters and i think purdue is in trouble. >> did you are the for me in maryland the way you rooted for howard? >> no. but i voted for michael steele. >> that counts. >> i must have voted for you if i voted for him. can i vote separately? >> no. >> i must have voted for you. >> i think that cost you some ratings by the way. >> no, i made a mistake.
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i voted for him for senate i voted for kathleen kennedy townsend. i give all this information away. here's these races and why they really matter. right now republicans control the governor's office in three big battleground states. pennsylvania, florida and ohio. if democrats pick up florida and pennsylvania and they hold colorado, they could essentially control all the big battle ground states except ohio. what's the significance of that? >> having a friendly governor really counts. i think we'll win florida. i think we'll win illinois. i think corbett is closing. i'm not necessarily agreeing with the premise but generically with regard to does it count, it really counts. if you have a friendly governor, you have an infrastructure already built in. you have organization as well. >> that's great. by the way i'll batch anything you want to put up. even money. we'll go even on corbett and
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wolf. >> statewide. >> i know. we'll see. governor dean, let me talk to you about hillary clinton. it seemed to me jeb bush was of some help to his brother in florida when he ran in 2000. how close can a governor boring it? can he really change the voting patterns? can he change votings times and the length of the lines? how much can he tilt the election? >> that's where governors can really make a difference. i don't think gfrs machines make a difference the way they used to. i advise barack obama not to bodies with florida. i didn't think there was any chance he could win it in 2008 or 12. he rebuilt the entire machine in florida. there was no machine for democrats in florida. he built that. so the modern candidate for president will build an
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incredible machine that is not going on necessarily rely on the existing democratic or republican party. so i don't think it is as much the machine it is a used to be but i think it makes it a lot of difference in the execution of the election. whether you can veto some of these voter repression laws that conservative legislators will pass. that makes a great deal of difference and i think it matters who the governor is in terms of party. >> the voter oppression laws actually making sure you're the person you say you are with regard to photo identification. >> it was never a problem. >> wow! >> governor, we have got republican leaders in pennsylvania. leaders of the legislature party, leaders who have said openly the reason they like these new rules is they get more votes. they believe it has electoral punch to it. they say so. >> they voted in '63 that voter i.d. is constitutional. this is a franchise. >> i'm saying, to come see you in the studio i have to produce my photo i.d. why is it controversial? it's crazy.
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>> this is just a means -- >> old people in nursing homes don't have photo i.d.s. how are they supposed to do this? >> you're just playing a game. let me ask you. a 75 or 80-year-old person lives in a rowhouse in baltimore who lives in a rowhouse, what i.d. card do they have that's government issued? they don't have a car. what -- >> and all the statutes by the way, contemplate situations where the very few people do not have photo identification. >> does that explain why there is no more early voting in ohio? why they've taken away sunday voting? why they've reduced polling places? >> and ten years ago howard was not even talking about this. suddenly there's a need for two weeks of voting. >> there's a need for every person. any party that thinks they can win the election by taking away their right to vote is not a party that will win for much longer.
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>> hey, chris. >> i have to ask you one last question. do you believe restrictive voting laws are better for republicans? >> they're better for the people. for the country. you're fran chase protected. hey, chris, by the way. larry hogan in some things voting fast. >> i did vote for your running mate. thank you very much. howard dean and the ever running. after six years as vice
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after six years as vice president of the united states,
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you would think most people would know joe biden's name at least. sadly as jimmy kimmel revealed, that's not the case. >> we asked americans a very simple question. that question is, who is joe biden? >> who is joe biden? >> i have no idea. do you want to take a guess? >> a man. >> who is joe biden? >> who is joe biden? >> i have no idea. >> do you know who the vice president is? >> no. i don't. >> do you want to take a guess? >> condoleezza rice? am i right? >> first female black vice president. >> joe biden is a senator. >> how do you know that he's a senator? >> from references and news and casually reading newspapers or coming across things on the internet to be completely honls. >> like the assistant president or something? >> that's right. he is the assistant president.
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>> that's not a scientific study but the results are in sync with a survey from last month which found only 36% of americans can even name the three branches of government. clearly these folks need to start watching "hardball." next up, yesterday marked vladimir putin's 62nd birthday which they are celebrating with fervor. there were some bizarre tributes including an art exhibit which portrayed him as hercules riding a bull. in another case, he is battling hydra. the hill pulled 102 members of congress to final out what members of congress are using. according to the results, apple which just release ad new line is by far the most popular on comment hill with 71% of lawmaker preferring to use the
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iphone. blackberry was a din second with 28% and 9% uses android. that number, 71% might not be a good omen for apple. however, since congress's approval ratings are at an all time low. up next, big events around the world are affecting the mood of the voters. with less than a month before election day. you're watching "hardball."
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welcome back to "hardball." the headlines this election season are grim to say the least. isis rampaging with more and more towns beheading people as they dig their own graves. fears of ebola spreading in this country. there was the sad fact that thomas eric duncan, the ebola patient in dallas, died today. how is this affecting the mindset of the electorate? for that we are joined by the round table mother jones. gene cummings and clarence page, the pulitzer prize winning columnist and author of the great book, culture worier.
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>> some pal of his. you know, it is hard to get this. i got so mad today. i'll be madder when i think about it only the. that guy with the pistol in isis country over there somewhere in syria. it was like the holocaust movies. these people going around digging their own graves. they're going to die in a couple minutes after the tape runs out and what are we doing? the congress won't even vote! don't we get steamed up about anything? did we rally around the flag? or do we want new leadership? >> the reaction to vote orders isis is isis scares them. but they don't want to put anybody -- >> what do they want to do about it? >> they're happy with the bombings. go bomb. that's why this congress that read the republican opinion right and they walk away from it with what the president was doing. the ebola stuff is a little different.
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there is movement in the public polls on that. >> who are they mad at? >> well, what they are right now is just scared. there was a pugh report a couple weeks ago where most people thought they were pretty safe. and they weren't overly concerned. there is a new poll that came out today. in which a majority of americans at some level are concerned about that. >> now that the guy is dead, i think it got more impact. >> you ask who they're mad at. and the question is, if they're scared, and they have reason to be scared, the american public was already in a sour mood even though economy is doing better in the polls leading up to now. the question is which politicians might come along and try to exploit that? we see some republicans, not all, but some. >> how would you do it? >> they're standing to go with the standard republican play book. obama is weak. he doesn't know what to do. some republicans are starting to play off that.
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>> conservatives start blaming the obama administration for the cdc in the hospital not getting it exactly right and the case in dallas. that stuff isn't getting any traction yet. >> do you final it odd to be touching only a foot and a half from my face right now? >> it's a little weird. >> you're farther away. what is going to be the impact? my experience when you walk down a dangerous street. you're scared, you get mad. so people, if they're scare, they'll get mad at somebody. if they don't like this isis crowd, they'll get mad at somebody. >> and mad he the beheaders. this reminds me of the 2004 season when the big issue was keeping america safe. do you feel safe. this year we're not seeing that. but we are seeing some criticism of president obama for not having strategy. not keeping america safe. help identifying u.s. citizens traveling abroad to fight for
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terrorism grooms. a newly released video, a masked fighter believed to have a north american accent tries to appeal to a western audience alternating between establish the and arabic as he stands over prisoners digging their own graves and he has the pistol. let's watch. >> we're here in the 17th division military base just outside the city of racka and we're here with them. you can see them digging their own graves in the very place they were stationed. >> this is the holocaust live. >> if you figure out who they are, you don't want to make martyrs out of them. you don't want to elevate them. >> that guy, the british guy in the mask. >> it isn't a criminal violation.
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put the fbi on the case. wait a minute. this is an army of enemy. it's not al capone. >> but it's not a state actor though. it is a gang of bandittos who call themselves religious. >> how do you define a war? >> this call for a police action by unified nations. coming together. and right now, that coalition is still forming. >> there are tens of thousands of people in the region felt this impact directly. a terrible refugee crisis. at some level, the solution has to come from the region. so far, two americans have been beheaded but we're not in danger the way the people in the region are in the region. americans can't do more than the people there are willing to do. he can help but we can't do more.
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>> suppose somebody comes along and says on the right, or the left. we have to do a tougher job of people screening. >> i think we've heard that already. and on the political landscape, these aren't becoming issues in 2014. we only have a little less than four weeks left. they haven't been able to frame a message. we've seen very few republicans do anything but attack the president but they are not proposing anything. it is the 2016ers who are trying to find a way to get messaging on this that works. >> look at this. here's a security threat. it was a hot topic in several debates. they're debating it. let's watch. >> the president said we have no strategy when it comes to dealing with isil. the president said they are junior varsity actors. the president said we will lead from behind and that's mark udall's plan too.
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>> i think one of the reason many nations are afraid to step forward is because this president has failed to lead the world. he should have everything on the table. >> i remember nixon getting elected in '60 without ever saying what he was going to do. just to say we need new leadership. is that what he's doing? >> people talk about nixon's secret plan. but yeah. like i said, they're really trying to make barack obama the enemy essentially here. or at least the person to vote against. >> and they're doing it with a conflicted electorate. these people want to see something ham them want the president to make the mess go away without making any real sacrifices without putting troops in. >> how do you do it? >> i don't know how. but these republicans are walking a fine line by asking, what are they saying? >> you know this business. you know with a they'll say.
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i don't think we should take anything off the table. they never say put it on the table. they say don't take it off. where's your chair? >> the 2014ers are trying to run against obama. and that maybe one of the big reasons the democrats aren't dead. because they're not running against obama. they're running against real candidates who have run pretty good campaigns. and that the democrats should be much worse off than they are right now. for the 2016ers, that should be a cautionary tale. they won't run against barack obama either. >> i like the way you've created this new group. 2016ers.
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the united states supreme court has now blocked the federal appeals court ruling they would have restored same day voting registration in north carolina for this november election. that's a big blow i have to say to voting rights groups who are fighting a law passed last we're by republican that took that ballot access away. coming up monday, kay hagan in a tough fight. i'll be there to talk with her about it. wee have that interview right here on monday on "hardball." we'll be right back.
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we're back with the roundtable. david coyne, gene cummings and clarence page, author of "cultural warrior." let's go to ebola right now. what happened with ebola today was the guy could have been cured. he could have been a good news story of good american health care, which is the best in the world. that's why people try to get here. instead the story is he died. >> right. >> there's another case they're working on that might as well be another ebola infection. instead of coming here, as the president said couple weeks ago, it's here and the guy is dead. when people read that, watch the evening news, it's here. >> they got to wait until tomorrow, people know about it already the way media work. the public's been pretty sophisticated about this so far.
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they understand that there's an incubation period. they understand this fellow was turned away. i won't say turned away. the hospital sent him home because of a mix-up there between the nursing staff and the doctors staff and all. we need to tighten up our system here. but the good news is there's more awareness now across the country and there is not panic and there's no reason to panic. >> are we going to have a country that says let's tighten up on immigration. you hear people like donald trump out there saying no more immigration, no more travel, which all the experts say is the worst thing you can possibly do. >> because with the travel ban, you can't get the supplies to where they need them. and you can't get people who want the doctors and nurses who can help them, you can't move them. so travel bans can cut both ways. >> what about 4,000 guys going over there as gis. you got to figure some are going to get it. it comes with the territory. >> i don't know how much access -- how much interaction there may be. they are going to build some
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facilities, but the main section of where our military troops are is cornered off. they're not going to be, you know, interacting much with the public. however, you get there and you are -- you are at risk, no doubt about it. >> but it's really hard to catch the virus that is now in 45 different states here in america moves much quicker. not as deadly as ebola. i do thing the public so far has kind of taken a kind of wait and see. they're starting to do better screenings. starting this weekend, travelers from liberia and other west african nations where this is coming, and right now you get the sense that the government, the cdc sort of has a grip on it. better here perhaps than over there. >> we hear these reports like here in d.c. and i think there was one in new york where someone comes in and they get
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suspicious, and that person is quarantined. if the public can see the government can move faster. >> maybe this is an example of the federal government -- >> you guys -- you're sophisticated big city people but for some on the right the ebola outbreak is another reason to argue that big government can't be trusted to do anything. here's mike huckabee this weekend. let's listen. >> i'm feeling a little sick myself. but it's not ebola. i'm just sick of a government that i'm paying for telling me not to worry and just truss them. i wish i could, but if they repeatedly lie to me, i just don't believe them any more. >> lie. why do they always -- how about getting it wrong? why is it always the worst moral case scenario? >> because he won't be quoted if he says getting it right. >> what's the option? they're going to privatize the response to ebola, subcontract it out? what is he really talking about here? >> he has this evangelical cadence like i've got the truth and they're keeping it from me. the evil ones. it was a mistake that it wouldn't come here, but it wasn't lying.
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>> considering how low the public confidence is in the polls as far as the confidence in washington, the establishment in general, against the incumbents. maybe huckabee's doing us all a favor by spredzing such skepticism, then acknowledging there's no reason to panic. >> how are they going to do that? >> you got to give him this. this white house in the last year has fed a steady storyline of incompetence. they made big mistakes and they've had to go back and correct them. they built the foundation for those kinds of attacks to come and possibly -- >> if they want your phone number, can i give it to them right now? i think there's a sense that government isn't -- you know, back in the '60s they asked people can the federal government do what it sets out to do? "wall street journal" poll 75% of the -- it wants to do
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let me finish tonight with this -- i think we're going to have to get rid of this isis thing. i don't think there's a treaty we can make with them, not a thing we can give them.
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nothing will stop these zealots who like cruelty, torture and death more than they do even victory. we need a wartime government to do that, we need leaders who reflect our gut reaction what we have seen on the video tonight. that killer chatting as he readies hz gun to shoot and kill the people we see digging their own graves around him. there it is. if the congress of the united states is not willing to vote on the evil and we see it here and if its values its own electoral interests over pure evil, what an exquisite time to kick them out of office. pelosi, reid, mcconnell, president obama, call the congress back into session and vote to take action against the evil we see on this video. do it because it's the clearest, starkest picture of evil we're likely to see in our lifetimes. it's what we saw in the holocaust but we didn't get a chance to stop then, but we do now. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts now.
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>> tonight on "all in" -- >> this hurts deeply, and we were hoping this was not going to happen. >> the first patient diagnosed with ebola in the u.s. dies. as another possible patient gets admitted to the same hospital in dallas, and the government steps up screenings at five american airports. >> we think that the risk of an outbreak here in the united states is exceedingly low. >> tonight, questions about what our protocols are and whether they are being properly followed. plus, border fear mongering. >> at least ten isis fighters have been caught coming across the mexican border in texas. no, no, they haven't. then "all in" goes to coal country. >> we're called the saudi arabia of coal. we have got to find a way to use that coal, use it in a clean way. >> we travel to mississippi to a state of the art clean coal factory to ask, is clean coal for real? >> clean coal harnesses the awesome power of the word "clean." >> "all in" starts now.