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as a sheriff's deputy who went in his home remains hospitalized with possible ebola symptoms. not a confirmed case, just bringing you that fact. sergeant michael moning has been hospitalized out of an abundance of caution after falling ill. >> it's our understanding that the person was in the apartment and had contact with family members, but that's all we know. this is not one of the 48 persons that is under public health surveillance for the dallas patient. >> the world bank is warning that could deliver a $33 billion economic blow in africa. speaking with world leaders, the head of the cdc likened it to the aids epidemic. >> i will say that in the 30 years i have been working in public health the only thing like this has been aids. we have to work so this is not the world's next aids.
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speed is the most important variable here. this is controllable and this was preventable. >> former president jimmy carter is criticizing president obama today. this time over his isis strategy. he told the star telegram this. first of all, we waited too long. we let the islamic state build up its money, capability and strength and weapons while still in syria. he calls president obama's shifting policies. he has taken criticism on drones and the affordable care act. >> also in the united states, a suburban chicago teen accused of trying to join isis is in court. mohamed hamza khan. he was on his way to vienna and then istanbul to fight for isis. he is charged with attempting to
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provide support to a foreign terrorist group drilling down on the fight against isis. they are stepping up around the besieged city of cobanny. air strikes are not enough, they said. according to the pentagon in the last 36 hours, forces launched 23 separate air strikes against isis. outside this turkish syrian border town. the local act vivs say they continue to make gains in the case of those offensives, preparing a huge flag to fly over the city once they capture it. secretary michael chertoff said cobanny could be a game changer. >> we better do it. as i watch kobani and if they cake it and we haven't put an effort in, we may have to start to look at whether at least some ground elements have to go into
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the theater. >> the chief foreign correspondent is following this from turkey. thank you, richard. first of all, can cobanny be saved without ground troops? it creates a host of problem. one of the issues are the kurdish fighters in kobani. these fighters are violently against a turkish intervention. the turkish troops are a few hadn't yards away. these and the kurdish troops see themselves as enemies. these turkish troops have been fighting a long, long war within turkey against the kurdish fighters who are linked to the pkk and a syrian version. turkish troops would be
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problematic. american troops would be incredibly problematic. american boots on the ground in syria which is a conflict that i think the u.s. doesn't fully understand that has many competing factions. we talk about isis as if it exists in a vacuum. isis doesn't exist in a vacuum. there a host of other militant groups in the area. of other different kurdish issues. sunni issues. shia issues. putting american boots on the ground would be stepping into an absolute hornet's nest. >> let's look at what the u.s. is doing. they are striking around kobani, but not in it. why is that? >> the u.s. doesn't have close relations with this group of kurdish fighters who are in kobani. the u.s. deals with other kurds in iraq. it deals with some sunni moderate groups, rebel groups,
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but it doesn't deal with this kurdish group. if the u.s. were to start bombing inside kobani, it's possible it could hit kurdish fighters and isis. they are not coordinating for close air support with anyone on the ground. if they started bombing in the city, they could be lots of unexpected consequences. >> thank you for following that. appreciate getting your updates. tough questions about the nation that as richard mentioned, kobani touches turkey. they were unable to convince them otherwise. u.s. ambassador to the un can help us make sense of. take a listen. >> it is not in the best interest to emerge on their doof
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step. >> is the u.s. having any involvement on turkey's crisis? >> what i sense is turkey obviously trying to get leverage and always have been that way. i am optimistic, but the fact that they are not creating buffer zones and not giving assistance and not participating with some on the ground force and not assisting the moderate groups and the sunnis and that is disturbing. they pushed them in and what is one of the lone voices trying to get them in. we trade a lot with them. their leader, he is a very strong, feisty, fundamentalalist and he wants world attention and he is playing hard to get.
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effectually they will come through, but we will need them fast. right now air strikes alone are not going to be sufficient. >> you mentioned the problems with a controversial figure. his human rights track record is far from sterling and the fundamental objectives they have are not always the u.s. objectives in play. al assad and his role in syria. do they consider them an ally under the best of circumstances? >> they are a good ally. on a number of fronts. sure, right now they are being difficult, but i think the end result, the pressure that the u.s. is bringing and the european community and the kurdish elements and i think turkey's role in the world. they want to be major players within nato and the region. they have to participate. they can't just do it the way they are doing it. not even halfway. i think they want something in return. they want us to assist the
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moderates in syria that are against assad. perhaps that's a trade off, but in the end turkey is an american friend. it's a european friend. i think it veers more towards europe than some of the fundamental streak that is it espouses. he is a realist and he has been playing hard nose politics. i believe effectually he will move in the right direction. >> everybody seems to be talking about jimmy carter's comments saying president obama waited too long. one interesting facet is he cites secretaries panetta and gates. take a look at this. >> president obama has to figure out what his policy is. it changes from time to time. i noticed that both of the secretaries of defense after they got out of office have been critical of the lack of positive
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action on the part of the president. he has been delayed and draws red lines on the sand in the committees and he doesn't go through with it. >> is that contention that the united states simply waited too long to enter this conflict an emerging consensus with world leaders? >> he wanted the air strikes to work and wanted a military strategy. i'm disappointed secretary panetta is a friend. he was a very good defense secretary, but right now he is on a book tour and perhaps that's motivating. i think those expressions of concern should have been raised while the president was making a decision. apart from that, i think that there is going to have to be some patience here. this is going to be a strong struggle. i think the president has to
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have his ducks in a row. they are entering coalition it is getting the turks on board and the sunnis on the sidelines with us. it's being effective in how we deal with the kurds. it's having a strong effort that really works in terms of the military air strikes. >> take a look at something our partners have brought us. they have been talking to the members of the army who said u.s. and allied air strikes are hitting buildings occupied by the free syrian army forces, exactly the opposite of what is intended. these are the key syrian rebels that the u.s. is trying to help. take a listen to this.
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ambassador, do you think that's just a normal level of collateral and do you think these strikes could have the unintended consequence of helping isis? >> look, i feel for those people and they are suffering, but you know, the president could not disclose those strikes against khorazan because this was a national security matter that might have attacked the u.s. on the other hand other there is concern that the air strikes help assad.
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you really can't win when you have a military air strike, but this is why you have to target it. this is very unfortunate. at the same time i do think that the air strikes are having a positive military effect. the key is get the turks, get the sunnis. get the various factions and supportive of our efforts against isis. >> these are difficult decisions and when to strike and how much to disclose ahead of strikes. none of it easy and almost no winning in such a complex battlefield. while you are here, i want to ask you about something far field of this. you were at one point a representative in talks with north korea, another big news almost, kim jung un hasn't been seen in months. unwho normally revels in the oddities of his profession has
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not seen in 37 days and the internet is about to explode, but nothing ccompared to what wn if he is a no show on friday. you know this country and the leadership there. what's your gut on what's going on over there? >> my gut on what's going on is that he is ill. there is some kind of medical problem, but it's not enough to step aside or any other change in the regime. those that wish for a regime change because he hasn't been seen, it's wishful thinking. this is a government that is not just kim jung un. it's military and political and his family. there various levers of power. he is the main power. if he doesn't show up at the big celebration on saturday, you know it could be that the illness is a little bit beyond something minor, but i don't see
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a coop or serious instability. >> a lot of questions about whether the succession chain would sustain stable leadership, possibly young relatives in the mix. always great getting your insights. >> thank you. >> up next, the urgent steps being taken to guard against ebola coming to america. i know... this third shift is rough... it's just a few more weeks max! what are you doing up? it's late. i just wanted to have breakast wih you. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything.
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partly over the risk of diseases. they discussed the outbreak in africa. the director of the cdc addressed immediate action to prevent ebola. major u.s. airports across the country are screening for ebola this weekend. 150 passengers arrived every day from three african countries. sierra leon and guinea. 95% traveled through jfk, newark, washington dulles and chg's a hair where the screenings will take place. here's what jay johnson had to say. >> we anticipate they will be effective. from my point of view what is important is that there is screening at multiple points. the measures we are putting in place now are more active. they involve both a declaration
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from the traveler as well as taking the temperature of those who are coming from the three affected countries. >> meantime, 58% of all americans support banning flights to the united states from those countries experiencing an ebola outbreak. a lot of questions about this, joining me now to sort it out, always a pleasure to have you following the story. help us make sense of this. what is involved? how this will change the travel experience. >> the the bottom line is the gun at your forehead and if it's 101.5 and there other symptoms that are similar or in synch with any sign of ebola, that would warrant you to probably be pulled aside at further evaluation. in addition the questionnaires that you have to answer about where have you been. have you been exposed to anybody with ebola and that kind of
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thing. nobody is under any expectation this is going to be the panacea and solve the problem completely. >> it may not have made a difference in the last case that turned out to be the first fatality. >> thomas duncan did not present any symptoms at the airport. what if he had developed a fever while on that plane? might they have caught it? maybe. maybe it didn't materialize until an hour after he left. that said, you will see customs and border patrol. coast guard personnel would help out along with the cdc. they said listen, we can't handle this big of a job. we don't have the people. >> a lot of hospitals are dealing with this. thank you so much. >> you bet. >> for more now, a professor of microbiology at the texas medical branch. thank you, doctor. i know you can't speak to thomas eric duncan's case, but his body will be cremated at the request
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of the family. does that eliminate the risks associated with the remains? >> the cremation process, does that eliminate the ranks and there new risks involved in cremating the body? >> it's a process by which the virus is completely killed. >> after he died yesterday, a big economic stocks. the company that made the experimental drug plummeted. can you tell us about that research? >> yes. the research we work on, we are working at treatments that we
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think are the most promising. we have three different approaches that all have protection against. two are drugs that have been used during the outbreaks. is tkm ebola and the other is a company called map. we were not involved in the development and we are using that technology as another treatment. one of the things we are doing with the work here is to combine these treatments. if you are familiar with hiv and when the successes were made, it was when they started combining drugs. for example, one of the things we want to do is combine them with tkm ebola. that's one of the strategies here. >> how do you think this outbreak in west africa will end and we will see a stop to these
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cases. are any the that will turn into a widespread treatment in. >> i think right now the best way for the outbreak to be contained is honestly good old fashioned epidemiology and outbreak control. one of the positive steps was when the president got the military involved. the army is very good at this. bringing the mobile labs over to that part of africa. i worked for the army for 23 years. they bring the hospitals over and it's the infrastructure that contributed. by having the resources by being able to identify cases and diagnose them and quarantine and monitor the people. that's the best way to contain this outbreak. there has been a lot of progress and experimental vaccines made
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to protect animals against ebola. several will be in phase one trials this year. it's uncertain whether they would be available to and we will be following that closely. thank you for your time. just ahead, a growing number of troubling incidents involving police and after can americans in the news today. that includes a shooding in st. louis with a police officer that is raising a lot of tough questions. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this man has an accomplished research and analytical group at his disposal. ♪ but even more impressive is how he puts it to work for his clients. ♪ morning. morning. thanks for meeting so early. oh, it's not a big deal at all. come on in. [ male announcer ] it's how edward jones makes sense of investing.
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not consistent with er8 stage ebola. we are bringing you the story that said it's less and less likely to be ebola. >> look at the other stories that caught our eye. all about the police interacting with black americans. first up, in the neighborhood of st. louis, protests after a police officer fatally shot an african-american teen last night. firing his gun 17 times. police say the suspect fired at least three shots before they opened fire. a note on this, it was exactly two months ago to the hour that michael brown was shot and killed by ferguson police officer darren wilson. next up, in north carolina earlier this week, police pepper sprayed a teen mistook as a home invad invader. that teen was walking into his
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foster parents's side door when a neighbor called the cops and handcuffing and pep spraying him. the police explained their position and said at no time was race a factor. pagely an nypd police officer took a stack of more than $1,000 in cash from a man's pocket on coney island last month. the video is surfacing and it speaks for itself. look. >> you see this? do you see this? give me my money, man. >> he got his money. >> the reported victim joy had been walking with friends when police stop and pepper sprayed one of them. he questioned the officer and at that point the cop allegedly took his money, pepper sprayed him and walked away. an attorney said he wanted his client's money back and a criminal investigation.
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prostitute was an overnight guest in the hotel room of a team member. that was never thoerlily investigated. not only were. >> they did not proif inappropriate behavior on behalf of the team. up first of all, extraordinary body of respecting that the post is behind at this point on the secret service. >> thanks very much. >> does the latest statement address your body of reporting? >> it does not. this is something that the initial event happened more than two years ago and something we have been working on for many months. the white house came out within days of the president's trip in the wake of the publicity and
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military members had done in hiring prostitutes and late night partying and drinking and it was well-known within days they said none of our staff or team members on the advanced staff were involved in any way. it turns out that the head of the secret service contacted the who is council to provide information including hotel logs where they said indeed as you said to the intro here, a prostitute appeared to have signed into one of the rooms of the white house team members. they said they under took a review and interviewed that person in question. his name was jonathan and he was a 25-year-old student who volunteered on the trip and was on a government per diem. the second time, he denied it again. they called that to a close. the inspector general of the department of homeland security which was investigating this
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because of the secret service going forward, they found additional evidence. that's the question we tried to answer. >> cathline received this information twice and twice interviewed that staffer in question, jonathan dock as you mentioned. do you have any idea how she came to the conclusion there was no foul play which is what we hear happened. does this look like a cover up to you or found there was nothing wrong? >> we are told that she interviewed him as well as other team members on the trip. none said they saw him do anything inappropriately and e viewed his expense accounts. he denied contact with any prostitutes or overnight guests. the the question is in the inspector general's investigation, the lead investigator told the congressional investigators that were overseeing that, he found pressure and under covered
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evidence to remove it from the report that he turned into his superiors and robbered not to allow this report to come out until after the election. that has been disputed on that side, but those questions have continued to reverberate and a question of whether they got special treatment or there was pressure whether from the white house or dhs or the office. >> obviously the charges there. one reason why this resonates so much, he works in the global women's issues office at the state department and his father works on the obamacare roll uh. will there be repercussions for them? >> he is a contractor and we don't know for sure what will happen to him. a former wal-mart lobbyist who has ties to the office of management and budget. it's not clear what will happen to him right now. the white house is standing by
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their investigation and saying they feel confident, but folks in congress are raising questions in the wake of our reporting and their own internal kou documents they have seen. >> causing a lot of ripples and we will have to see how central they are to the obama administration's legacy. coauthor of total's orl, a preesh appreciate that update. what vaccines have to do with autism. we debunk the myths and try to bring you the facts. stay with us. and 2% back at the grocery store. even before he got 3% back on gas. all with no hoops to jump through. rafael was inspired to use
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on the complaint list, a link between vaccines and autism. the problem is, there is zero evidence of such a link. they are reviewing literature concluesing there is not a causal relationship between vaccine types and autism. where does the experience theory come from? a study published in 2004 found a potential link in african-american boys. this past august, two of the authors did a reanalysis and concluded their earlier hypothesis was faulty, apologizing for omitting key information. so what is sdpafact and what is fiction? the senior vice president, bob is cofounder of awe simple speaks and the president and ceo of nbc. dr. wong is the president of medical research. thank you for helping us sort this out. it is about parents
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understandably fearing f their children, but clarity is the most important thing. walk me through what happens with this study. it teams to have proven there was a link, but there problems now. >> it's an interesting study. if you look at the original study from 2004, it did say there was no cover up. it did say there seemed to be a higher risk for autism among children who got the mmr vaccine before three years of age. the part that nobody is talking about is that if you looked in that study and children who got the vaccine on time, there was no increased risk. it looked like the people who got it late. there was no cover up there. that's in the original study. even this new analysis that has been retracted doesn't challenge that. people who got it on time have no increased risk. >> you addressed this question. there is nothing to a theory
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that the cdc covered up evidence. >> absolutely not. another point is that the safety of the mmr vaccine doesn't hang on this one study. millions of children receive these vaccines and no increased risk of autism. a recent meta analysis that looked across the studies suggest it seems to protect people against autism. the rate is lower among people who got the vaccine than people who didn't. >> the whistle blowers who is mentioned in the cover up theory has come out and said i support vaccines. i don't want my comments to be taken in that context. autism strongly encourages parents to have their children vaccinated. has there been push back on the organization? >> absolutely. we listened to the entire community and hear those voices and it's tragic. when a child is diagnosed and too often parents see this
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coincidence and they see the symptoms appearing around the time the vaccine is given. research has shown in the last couple of years that even though parents don't see it before then, there signs of autism before the vaccine and before a child turns a year of age. there signs and behavior if you do careful subtle videotape analysis and brain wave tracings and research suggesting that some of the brain changes start before birth. >> i have autism in my family. our thoughts are always with parents wrestling with this in their children. this medical clarity is the most important thing to have. dr. paul wong, i really appreciate it. if you are passionate about this debate, there is something you can do for the call to action to help people get educated so everyone can make an informed decision. go to
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welcome back, everybody. a little bit of breaking news on marriage equality in west virginia. that state's attorney general saying his office is no longer going to fight a court challenge to the state's ban on gay marriage. this follows the supreme court earlier this week declining to hear further gay marriage cases. we'll keep you posted on that. now, over to a little bit of international news. high drama in an increasingly
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fractious united kingdom with david cameron making a personal apology to the queen at buckingham palace. here's what he's cleaning up. less than a week after voters in scotland were asked should scotland be an independent country, 55% of voters said no, and the prime minister was caught on camera talking about the results and how the queen reacted. she purred down the line. cameron went on to tell mike bloomberg say, i never heard anyone so happy. and it's not just the gossip cameron is cleaning up after the fact. the referendum being in place in the first place has been viewed as a major blow to his leadership. this fight continues to draw on high-profile voices from politics all the way to hollywood. actor alan coupling grew up in
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scotland and has been an outspoken supporter of independence. he's in "the good wife," a lot of our control room folks are a fan. he's the author of an extraordinary new book "not my father's son." alan, thank you for being here. >> my pleasure, ronan. >> the scots are often the most incisive critics of the crown. take us inside your theory of what might have gone down in your meeting. >> the use of the word purr might be the basis of it all. i don't think you should say the queen purrs. >> she's probably not purring. >> like a sex kitten or something. >> i'm going to assume she won't look back on this meeting with undiluted fondness. >> i doubt it, no. >> you were in the media a lot beforehand, what was the moment of hearing that? >> i was totally devastated. obviously i wanted scotland to become independent. i was very vocal and supportive of the campaign. but also, i felt -- took it in a personal way. it was a choice between
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imagination and hope and self-determination or letting the establishment continue to treat us with disdain. >> obviously that's a controversial stand that you've taken. but it has caught on. and one of the concessions in response to those is there'll be more power -- >> this is -- >> well, yes. this is what happened. when -- actually, when i was in grad school campaigning on one of my days off from cabaret, just before the referendum, gordon brown, the former prime minister brought out and was a poster boy for all of these new powers the parliament was going to have. like, you know, the most de-evolution you can have before -- people are wavering, voted no because they thought they were going to get the powers any way. but they started to renege on the promises. cameron said there were all of these other conditions. again, they're doing exactly what. >> it's not enough in your view? >> no, it's not enough because it's not happening. it's not happening as they said. >> so, one quote from former uk
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special adviser andrew hammond, which i think leads to what might come to pass. there will now be an overwhelming pressure for new de-evolved powers. this may ultimately have to be resolved as part of a new uk constitutional convention. do you think the independents movement is going to spread beyond just scotland? >> i do, actually. when i was there, the welsh national party, the leader of that, i can't remember her name, but they were all eyes were on scotland from them because of that. i think, you know, actually the yes campaign is -- because of this reneging on these promises immediately, the energy of it s is -- has increased immensely in the last couple of weeks. the membership of the scottish nationalist party has doubled. the liberal democrats part of the coalition in westminster. it's been and incredible surge. >> it's a tumultuous picture in the uk. this book, oh, man, this book. this is incredible.
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and the twists and turns are so intense, i can't even really talk about it without spoiling it. how did you come to want to talk about this family drama and this search for identity? >> i just, you know, it was one of these things i was wanting to write, well, really, when this all happened to me, it was about summer four years ago when i did the tv show, who do you think you are. i discovered my grandfather died playing russian roulette. and before i started doing this show, my father who i was astranged from told me i wasn't his son. i couldn't stop talking about it. and i felt in writing about it, i would take it from my being -- >> if you know everything you knew at the end of writing this book? >> i wouldn't have been -- i wouldn't have suffered that abuse. >> that the relationship might have be different? >> no, i don't, actually. i think i realized from writing it my father, you know, was mentally ill and it wasn't just about -- it wasn't about me.
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and that's what -- that was the best thing about writing the book was realizing that. >> well, again, without any spoilers, i will say it's a roller coaster ride of revelations. >> thriller. >> it is, actually, in a funny way an emotional thriller. i recommend it to everybody at home. that wraps up today's "rf daily," thank you all at home for joining me. it's been a pleasure. "the reid report" is up next with my colleague joy reid. (male announcer) it's happening.
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treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating, shakiness, confusion, and headache. severe low blood sugar can be serious and life-threatening. ask your doctor about alcohol use, operating machinery, or driving. other possible side effects include injection site reactions. tell your doctor about all medicines you take and all of your medical conditions. check your blood sugar levels. your insulin dose should not be changed without asking your doctor. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing, swelling of your face, tongue or throat, sweating, extreme drowsiness, dizziness, or confusion. (male announcer) today's the day to ask your doctor about levemir® flextouch. covered by nearly all health insurance and medicare plans. faster than d-con. what will we do with all of these dead mice? tomcat presents dead mouse theatre.
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thomas eric duncan's family is searching for answers and there are new developments in the fight to track and contain the virus. here's what we know right now. moments ago, officials from texas presbyterian hospital in dallas say that the deputy is in good condition with no symptoms consistent with an early stage ebola diagnosis. definitive lab tests are expected later today. served a quarantine order on duncan's family and was hospitalized yesterday after reporting flu-like symptoms. we also know that today, duncan's remains have been, quote, transported for cremation according to texas health officials. meanwhile, his extended family is headed home to north carolina where his fiancee and her family will remain under quarantine until october 19th at an undisclosed location. all of this as 100 u.s. marines are set to land in liberia today to aid that government's response to the ebola outbreak. earlier today, texas governor rick perry visited some 500 u.s. troops at ft. hood ahead of their deployment to west africa this month.
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