fiancee's church. the pastor says the funeral won't be planned until after october 19th. duncan's remains will be cremated according to the cdc guidelines. the intense heat of the process kills any virus in the body so no further precautions are needed. and in omaha, ashoka mukpo who contracted the virus before teaming up has received the experimental blood transfusion from ebola survivor dr. kent bradley. and so far, this outbreak has a 52% survival rate. more than 8,000 have been infected, just shy of 4,000 have been died worldwide. and if this outbreak isn't contained quickly, the world bank warns it could cost the region $33 billion. >> cases are growing exponentially. we must work together to provide the best standard of care for each individual. things will get worse before they get better. how much worse depends on us. >> u.s. troops at the medical

simulation trading center at ft. hood are preparing to deploy to west africa. texas governor rick perry was there today. >> when you signed up to serve the united states army, this may not have been the role that you saw yourself play in. it's the events that happen in life that you don't see coming. that really, really distinguishes and characterizes who you are. >> extra screenings at five u.s. airports starts saturday. in the uk also beefing up its checks. luke russert is outside one of those airports. >> there's a lot of people traveling from west africa, 1 in 5, in fact, have malaria which causes fevers. there are going to be a lot of false positives. it's really meant to try and prove a sense of calm amongst the public. >> and similar precautions are already happening at u.s. ports on all ships that visited west africa within the last five

ports. >> the initial screening will be conducted by medically trained coast guard personnel for the first couple of days at this more active screening is in place within a short period of time, we are hiring, we're bringing on by contract medically trained personnel to conduct this screening. if there's a positive, either through a yes answer on the declaration or their temperature's running high, they're referred over to screening in an isolated place by cdc. the center for disease control, and at that point, cdc takes it from there. >> in dallas for us since this all started. the sheriff's deputy being tested was not among the list of people the cdc is monitoring after possible exposure. how long until those final results come in? >> reporter: we're actually expecting those result this afternoon and the hospital says right now he has no fever

and that his symptoms are not consistent with the early stages of ebola. until those test results come in, he will continue to be treated with an abundance of caution. as you said, the deputy is not one of the four dozen people being monitored with twice daily temptemperature checks for ebol. no one in that group so far has developed any symptoms or signs of the deadly illness, including duncan's fiancee and her family. they watched a memorial service held last night for him via a video conference. they're in an undisclosed location here in dallas for their 21-day isolation period. his fiancee has in a statement said she hopes a thorough examination of all aspects of his care will be conducted. the hospital under scrutiny for having released duncan from the hospital originally on september 26th with antibiotics. he was readmitted taken by ambulance to a hospital and his

condition deteriorated from there. he was placed on a ventilator, a kidney dialysis machine and passed away yesterday morning. on the 26th, mr. duncan was not exhibiting symptoms consistent we bith ebola and his conditiond not warrant admission. certainly something going to be looked at quite a bit in the coming days. and as we continue to monitor not only the deputy in the hospital right now, but those 48 patients who had some type of confirmed contact with mr. duncan. there's an 8 to 10-day period where most people will start developing those early signs. we are nearing the end of that window, but that doesn't mean they're out of danger quite yet. you need to monitor them for those full three weeks, the full 21 days, abby, back to you. >> thanks so much for that. for all of this, one of the elite researchers working toward an ebola cure at the university of washington. and angela, in science, it's all trial and error, explain to us

what you're doing to find a cure. help break this down. >> sure, so certainly in the past, a great deal of ebola research has revolved around performing nonhuman primate studies or it's based on anecdotal evidence from past outbreaks. and we're finding those models are not necessarily sufficient for understanding an outbreak of this scale. so what my lab is doing with my mentor, michael kates at the university of washington and our collaborators are working with mouse models and alternative models to identify what makes a person susceptible to severe ebola. so, for example, you and i are genetically distinct individuals. what would make you recover from ebola whereas it would make me die or vice versa. >> angela, we've seen dr. kent brantly who survived ebola giving blood because some people think survivors develop an immunity. is there a key to a cure for ebola in the blood of survivors.

>> there may be. and historically for people working in ebola labs, people have certainly been evaluating antibodies, a component of the blood that would provide that immunity as a first line of defense treatment. so it's certainly possible that could be potentially a new source of treatment. and, in fact, zmapp, the experimental drug which was given to dr. brantly is actually a cocktail of three different antibodies targeting the virus. >> very interesting. >> angela, talk to us a little bit about funding for research to find a cure. find a vaccine for ebola and other similar resources. there's not a big market for big far ma and it's at all-time lows. >> that's right. the research funding situation right now is actually quite dire. in fact, the national institutes

of health have almost $500 million cut from the budgets. cdc has seen similar cuts. and the cdc's public health preparedness and response budget is over $1 billion less in 2013 than it was in 2002. so we've had very devastating cuts to research, and that is certainly hindered the progress towards drugs or vaccines that can be deployed immediately against ebola. >> there's a lot of work being done here in the u.s. and experimental treatments, but, of course, the vast majority of the patients and deaths from this are in west africa. do you have a sense on when we might have something taken into west africa to try to stop the outbreak there? >> it's going to -- i would say it's probably going to be at least six months to a year before we could even begin to start deploying things to even a subset of the patients in west africa. and much of that will depend on how many people are becoming infected in the future. we've seen these estimates from the cdc that there could be as many as 1.5 million people

infected by early next year. and that's the case, we have a substantial lag in terms of production of either a vaccine or a drug candidate to actually get that, to get enough doses of either of those to get to west africa to make a difference. >> yeah. very interesting things you guys are doing. good luck to you, angela. thank you so much for being with us. and up next, the other big national security issue the president's dealing with right now. isis. another plot to attack the west foiled. we'll tell you about that. and talk about how all of this will play into the midterms. is terror the wild card here? well, the cycle rolls on, it's thursday, october 9th. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country,

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for mishandling syria expects to hear more, not less. for more on the politics of isis, let's bring in washington correspondent for "time" magazine. we've seen a number of members of congress raising issues in an outlandish way. is this going to be a top issue on voters minds going into the midterms? and what does that mean for the electoral outcomes? >> i think there's no question. if there's going to be a unifying theme right now for republicans, it's going to be able to draw out all the different things that are spooking americans, sometimes for good reason. you have isis, you have ebola, you have even the president's own secret service hasn't been up to the job since nothing outthreats. if they're able to create a narrative that the world is on fire and the president has been unable to put it, that's something they feel is something that could cause people on their side to go to the polls, to hand republicans the senate. >> and alex, another thing that spooks republicans is president obama. and as the president has said, i'm not on the ballot this time around, but my policies are to which david axelrod said that

was a mistake to say. and a new cbs poll would agree with that. it shows more than a majority of republicans are actually getting out to vote simply against the president as we know. another interesting part of this poll shows at the same time, george w. bush's presidency, the polls were almost the same. and after that, there was a democratic sweep in the house. so alex, whether the president wants to admit it or not, he is on the poll, on the ballots, rather, on the midterms. >> and you see the strategy on the republican side being born out in senate races across the country. in state after state. ads are being run on behalf of republicans that say this embattled incumbent has voted with president obama more than 90% of the time. and republicans are betting in a year when obamacare isn't quite what it has been or the economy is getting better even though wages are flat for a lot of people. the best thing they can do is

tie some of these democrats to the policies of the president in the sense that in many respects obama has been ineffectual or unable to stamp out some of the threats that the country is facing. >> interesting bit of a trend in this election, alex. independents really making themselves felt you had some new numbers coming out of a south dakota poll which i should say, it's a poll that doesn't meet or standards. it's just one poll. but democrats are seeing enough on the ground there to want to spend some money in south dakota, a state where we all thought they had absolutely no shot. you've also got in kansas, an independent with an actual shot of winning there. and even in places like north carolina and alaska. you've got independents who aren't going to win but aren't taking enough of the vote to make a difference in the races. do you think that's a reflection of how frustrated the american electorate is with our political system in general? >> i think the independents trying to steal the races in kansas and south dakota would certainly say so. i think there's a throw the bums

out mentality on both sides and we've seen it create the opportunity in two places you noted. the democrats never expected to be competitive. both on the prairie, one in kansas, where greg orman has surged and another in south dakota where there's an interesting three-way race in a state that both sides had written off. and harry reid said recently as this summer, we're going to lose. and as you said, the polling is a little bit sparse there. we don't quite know what's going to happen. the republican is probably still the favorite. but democrats have been able to expand the map, banking on independents in some of those states. >> the debate and, of course, tom tillis was saying this about obama and his policies. and kay was saying, no, this is about what the voters of north carolina need. and it reminded me that the human mind wants to attach a narrative to any group of events. sometimes that makes sense and sometimes it's quite a stretch. is there actual a narrative linking all these different races. or is it really sort of like the

human mind attaching this narrative and these are actually separate events that have their own logic. >> it's a good question. i think, you know, the reason why we have seen so many of these ads raising the prospect, which has not been confirmed that isis is a threat, a credible threat to attack the united states is because they want another prong in that kind of general narrative that the world is on fire from isis to ebola to the secret service and waves of unrest across the middle east. and the white house, who you expect to put out that fire has not been able to do it. they want to create the narrative that obama has not been able to staunch out these threats and they want to tie the embattled democrats to those policies. >> the answer to torre's question is if republicans are able to make it about the national trend, they'll do well. >> right. and in terms of localized races, i think we're seeing something interesting in the govern's races this year, alex.

you've got this national trend where we expect republican pick-ups. incumbents in trouble on both sides of the aisle. in kansas who looks like he may lose. democrats in states like iowa and connecticut, excuse me, illinois and connecticut. what's going on with that? why are so many incumbents in trouble? >> well, the example you bring up is a fascinating one. if there's any state you expect it's impossible to go too far to the right, it's kansas. we're seeing a rebellion of moderate and conservative republicans against sort of the sharp tact to the right he's pursued. in other states, i think you mentioned colorado, you know, there's sort of a number, obviously wisconsin is sort of a big one. these are referendums on -- where people are sort of uneasy for a number of reasons. they're not quite sure that, you know, the economy and, you know, america's place in the world is certain, headed on the right track, and these are moments when people are sort of nervous and hopefully, well, republicans certainly hope that they'll be able to motivate their base by

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like doctors, lawyers, teachers, miners, and even the oldest profession of them all, tailors. every year, the average woman loses $11,000 to the work gap. that's almost $500,000. that's a $500,000 vagina tax. that's why i'm taking matters into my own hands. well, somebody else's hands, really, dr. goldstein. or is it goldstein? >> o'malley. >> i'm becoming a dude. >> yes, after years of lady taxes, sarah is looking for some payback literally. seeks to crowd fund the trillions of dollars that women lose to the wage gap every single year.

if they hit their fund raising goal, every woman in america gets a check, don't run to your mailbox just yet, that goal is nearly $30 trillion. is casey rand, creative director, the agency that teamed up with the national women's law center on this, eyebrow raising, not safe for work in its entirety new ad of which i do, though, encourage people to go and watch. it's hysterical in its entirety, as well. what are folks saying about it so far? >> so far, reception's been positive. it's been fun to see people put their own spin on the headline which is always fun. so aside from the video, which is obviously kind of going gang busters, there's infographics on the website that are really helpful in terms of spreading the actual information about the wage gap. and the site, as well, has been just great.

>> yeah. i mean, this is a an issue that impacts every woman. and the hope is every woman can get onboard with us. had and these are only the parts we're able to show. if you actually go online and watch it. my grandmother would look at me and say, honey, this is terrible, turn this off. i'm thinking these are also women that need to get on board this cause, as well. are you concerned it's almost too provocative and almost too much for some conservative women that are very important group for this issue? >> absolutely. we want every woman to receive equal pay in america, no matter who they are or their political -- what we do find with a campaign like this, there's this kind of culture of getting behind just strong out there provocative work and getting people to talk about it. they might not. it is going to be a little polarizing for someone, obviously, but on the other hand, there's a conversation going on right now, and that's

what ultimately the goal was. and i think it's working. and the people who get behind it really rally behind it. and that was our goal. >> i'm going to send it to my grandmother's and see -- >> good luck with that app. >> to make an omelet, you've got to break eggs and you guys have done that. and part of what i love here, sarah silverman is awesome and brilliant and funny. talk about why she was the right person for you guys to work with on this. >> sure. she's a friend for the agency. we worked with her on a project called the "great schlep" in 2008 and that went well. and part of this campaign is just exposing the absurdity of the wage gap for what it truly is and trying to raise nearly $30 trillion is outlandish and absurd and ludicrous. and we thought her take on comedy, which is, you know, a little bit out there and irreverent and also very polished and put together and sharp was just a perfect match. so we approached her with the idea and it went from there. >> and how did the whole idea for the video come together? i mean, once you know, you

wanted to do something to raise awareness on equal pay, how does that get to sarah silverman wants to become a man? >> pretty fast, actually. we had the idea. my partner karen land and i had the idea after hearing obama's state of the union in january where he mentioned the wage gap and called it an embarrassment. and we did calculations of our own and realized we were going to lose nearly $500,000 over the course of our careers. and that to us was really shocking because you hear it always in this minute kind of 22 cents or 23 cents. and that doesn't feel like as much. but, then we calculated, okay, what does that mean for every woman? and obviously that's almost $30 trillion in america. so we just thought, a great idea would be to crowd fund it because it's absurd and we'd get the word out there, so we went looking for organization where we can get behind us and donate the money that we raised, and the center is a leading organization in the fight for women's rights and they have been for a long time. and they're doing a lot of great

work. so we kind of approached them proactively, really great about getting behind creative and going out there and trying to make it even if the client isn't on our roster. we found them and talked to them and we loved the idea and it grew into something of its own from there. >> it's brilliant and hysterical ad. and sometimes the challenge is getting people to watch it and share it and laugh about it to actually doing something and taking action. i mean, als, ice bucket challenge is like the gold standard model for both getting people to share and do something and take action and give. are you seeing that people are watching the video and they're responding not just with laughter but with action? >> absolutely. we've had a lot of donations so far. we've raised over $80,000. >> not $30 trillion yet? >> not quite yet. we're on our way. >> excellent. all right. thank you so much. >> thanks a lot. >> thank you. and up next, unlikely duo, why pope francis and edward

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we are back with a market alert. red across the board with less than 30 minutes left in the trading day. the dow is getting hammered, down 300 points. fears of lackluster growth around the globe are leading to a serious selloff. also in the news right now, large protests are expected tonight in ferguson, missouri, to mark two months since the fatal shooting of unarmed teen michael brown. tensions escalated last night when an offduty police officer fatally shot a teen in st. louis about 16 miles from ferguson. officials say the officer fired his weapon at least 17 times after at least three shots were fired at him. and two names you don't often hear together that are topping the list of contenders for the nobel peace prize that will be announced. odds makers have smart money on

either pope francis or edward snowden. if pope francis were to take it, he would be the first pope ever to win the peace prize. turning now to a big anniversary for a magazine that's featured the pope and snowden on its cover, "people" magazine. turning 40 this year, the special anniversary issue hits newsstands tomorrow featuring taylor swift recreating the first cover and made up to channel mia farrow. "people's" special project editor joins us now. michelle, congratulations. >> thank you. >> on getting to 40. you don't look a day over 18. >> i was going to say. i might be 40, but nobody's aged a day. >> there's so much fun stuff in this issue. the thing i love most, five movie remakes we'd love to see where you cast fun people, recreating great movies we love. my two favorites. you put betty white and bob newhart in the roles of uma

thurman and john thravolttravol. and andy samberg as e.t. that's the best. that one must have been fun part of this issue to put together. >> absolutely. we wanted to focus on the past and the present and the future. and we wanted to acknowledge these movies that had a big influence in pop culture over the last few years. your favorites, seth and andy. came up with "e.t." themselves. i don't know how they figured out who was going to be "e.t." it was a toss-up, i'm not 100% sure. but the photo was priceless, and we wanted to put a fun spin on that memorable scene with uma and john. and they hung in there for the entire shoot. >> nailed it. >> it's so, so great. and the cover of the issue is taylor swift. and i love how you channel mia farrow who was a 29-year-old mia farrow.

there's the real one, 40 years ago. and i was looking at both of these today and we were looking at how different it is 40 years later. and what struck me is how it was actually more subdued 40 years ago. now we are so obsessed celebrities and their personal life. where it was about "the great gatsby" but with taylor swift, it's she's single. it's not as much the career. >> yeah. we did feature mia farrow as daisy buchanan. it is still sort of the same motto, which is ordinary people doing extraordinary things and extraordinary people doing ordinary things. now we're really emphasizing that. taylor swift, obviously, we see her on stage with all the glam, the glitter, but we want to get to know who she is and that's what our readers come to "people" for. so we have the great acknowledgme acknowledgment. she's talking about how she's not focusing on boys anymore. believe it or not, it's true. >> no good music. come on. >> "shake it off" did make it to

number one. her old throwback, so to speak. but she has great female friends, lena dunham, ordering chinese food with jamie chung. she's kind of a girlfriend. >> great story. >> yeah. >> when i heard we were doing a segment on the magazine, i was like, great, i'll pull the compilation. and i'm looking through the -- there's no compilation of the sexiest man alive cover. >> what's up with that? >> that's crazy. >> there has actually been a special book, i will make sure we get you one. we'll make sure you have that. >> well played. >> yes. >> but it is coming up, it is one of our favorite issues, as well. and it's, you know, been around since 1985, and the fun fact about that, we never went out to, you know, dub anybody the sexiest man alive. we had a picture of mel gibson up. everyone was shooting ideas. and someone said sexiest man alive and it stuck. >> that's how it happened. >> wow, that's interesting. >> you want to throw your names in the hat, let me know. >> josh wants to be in. and he should.

he should. no, that level of intelligence is sexy, isn't it? >> absolutely. absolu absolutely. i agree. >> all right. moving along. one of the parts of the issue i really liked is you had celebrities giving advice to their younger selves. and a lengthy quote from michelle obama, part of which reads, if i could give myself one piece of advice, it would be this, stop being so afraid. the sheer amount of time i spent tangled up in fears and doubts that were entirely of my own creation, it is great to hear someone as strong and amazing as michelle obama talking so candidly about being afraid. >> absolutely. you really get a sense, this is what she tells malia and sasha. telling people to really be empowered. and young girls to really be empowered and embrace who they are. she took a lot of care writing this specifically for people. one of my other favorite things is she said everybody should fail but not just fail small,

fail big. if you're in a dark and a corner failure. that's what makes people grow, evolve. don't be afraid of that either. >> you should be proud of making it to 40 because a lot of magazines are having a rough time right now. 40 years is a very, very long time in the magazine industry. congratulations on that. but how is it that "people" has made it through 40 years and evolved with the times but not changed rally the way some magazines have. how have you made it through 40 years? >> i think it, again, goes back to our motto. we have stuck true to highlighting extraordinary people doing ordinary things, ordinary people doing extraordinary things. not only hollywood, we cover real people and that is what it is. we're all trying to connect emotionally with the story. whether it's michelle obama telling a fantastic story about advice, or highlighting our heroes of the year. these are the stories people want to share. >> absolutely. >> and feel good about. >> and taylor swift represents someone we're following for years to come. you also talk about some other people we'll be following in the future, as well, right? >> absolutely. >> we feature 41s to watch.

we're paving the way for the next 40 years. we're not going anywhere. and these are the people want to focus on. people like natalie dormer and meghan trainor. >> all about that bass. >> my daughter loves that song. >> what's not to love? >> it's positive and fun and that's what we're trying to celebrate. we're trying to take part in pop culture, be a part of the conversation. and show people just the fun and the inspiration that you can find from it. >> has kanye called and said he should have been on the cover instead of taylor? >> the number of times kanye has called my numbers. i need my assistant. >> that's the problem people have. want to block that number, michelle tan, thank you so much. >> thank you. up next, washington uniting the country, tackling crises head on and making us stronger as a nation. yeah, doesn't make sense until you see the eblock. thank you, michelle. (receptionist) gunderman group.

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he overcame gridlock and he led. well, a new book, the return of george washington shows exactly how he did it. it tells a story of the critical six years after the revolutionary war where through washington's leadership a constitution was created and a union was formed. joining us now from that other washington is the book's author who won the pulitzer prize for history. >> thank you very much. good to be here. >> we assume he went straight from the revolutionary war to being president. but there were six years in between that we totally overlook. the six years were some of the most important years of his life. and in our country's history. >> they certainly were the most important for creating our modern democracy that we now know today. because when the revolution ended, we were left with 13 separate sovereign states looped together with a very, very loose confederation. each state was a republic into itself. it could have its own laws, it could have its own interstate policies, they could limit

interstate commerce. they had their own money. and, each of the states as predictable was pulling apart and the country was collapsing. but washington during the revolution had become an american. more than just a virginian, an american. and he saw his legacy, this chance of being a model for the world collapsing. and so he stepped forward to form a more perfect union. >> let's take a step back just a little bit. you say to them at the time, washington's assent to the presidency seemed ordained. and almost like they had to convince him to take it. how did washington get himself into that position where everyone thought this has got to be the guy? >> well, first, there had to be a constitution. under the articles of confederati confederation, there was no overarching president, no executive branch. there was just a loose congress about like the u.n. general assembly. that's when things were falling apart.

what he did was other like minded people who saw this country pulling apart, be it john j. or robert morris or james madison, they envisioned a stronger central government. while washington was the one person, besides maybe benjamin franklin who was quite elderly who had the nation's trust, and he had that trust because after the revolution when -- when the world was saying, oh, he's just going to become a dictator, he voluntarily stepped down, relinquished control to civilian rule. and that made him not only first in war but first in peace. and the people trusted him. and then, he helped lead the movement to first to draft a new constitution and then get it ratified and then get a federalist congress elected. it was that process by the end of that he was inevitable to be the first president. >> very interesting. well, edward, one of the things you write about is the fact that he had this very real, very visceral sense of what the country could and should look like from his own travels

throughout the country. >> that's a wonderful point. what we forget about washington is we tend to put him up on mt. rushmore. look at the picture on the $1 bill that makes him look like a wax figure. he was a living, breathing, dynamic politician. and what was amazing about him. he had this innate sense of how a republic should operate. sense of popular opinion. what he did was, he knew the people first entrusted their states and they weren't ready for a stronger union. he had to patiently wait. he had to lay the foundation, and then he was reluctant to go to the constitutional convention because he didn't know yet whether the people were ready for it. john adams who saw him firsthand, when john adams was his vice president said that george washington was the best political actor he had ever seen. he had this sense of how to lead the people.

>> edward, do you see lessons for today still at the core of a lot of political disputes in america is how much power should be centralized from the federal government? how different states ought to be from each other. washington threaded a needle at a time when there was much disagreement about that. how can that be done again today? >> sure, there was that balance. but the people, several people, both supporters and opponents, univers universally, anti-federalist and federalist said after the constitution was ratified, it was only because the people's trust in washington, george washington that they were willing to try this experiment with a stronger federal government. and it takes a man of character, it takes a leader, or a woman of character, a leader of character that the people can trust with this power. that's what washington showed. he had a character, he had a vision for the government, he was nonpartisan in the sense that he abhorred the political divisions. he wanted to lead from -- so he put together the first team of rivals for his cabinet that

included both hamilton on one side and thomas jefferson on the other. he listened to them, he was willing to compromise for what he viewed as the greater good. that sort of leadership made him a trusted figure. >> i'm fascinated by this notion you brought up of washington as an extraordinary political actor. can you give us an example of that? >> well, he would -- for example, during the constitutional convention, there were several times where the constitutional convention virtually was on the verge of breaking down. there was no way they were going to make it. whether it was over the big state, small states or slave states, free states or the various divides, he would talk with people at night. he would go out and, instead of staying in the fancy house that he lived in, he would go out and eat at the taverns with the other delegates. he would work compromises out. and then you could see his deals take effect. he was what you could call a retail politician. he was a great conversationalist and had this sense.

he had a larger vision. but he was willing to make the compromise to get toward that end. and that's sort of dealing with, talking with both sides, talking with everyone, treating the other delegates and then later the other members of congress with respect, that sort of sense. upon he had dignity and yet he was will willing to talk to people and compromise. >> having studied george washington, what would he think of his town? what would he think of washington, d.c. right now. >> he would probably be tremendously impressed with how par his three main visions for the country. what he wanted under the new constituti constitution, what he believed america needed, he sought respect abroad, prosperity at home, and for him, development westward, the frontier. those were the things that were being lost during the confederation and we can see those are still fundamental, respect abroad, prosperity at

home. that's what people run on and for us now the frontier is in science, technology. we're always a dynamic, changing people. those he would admire. what he would be appalled by, i believe, is the partisanship. >> he always believed that once people are elected they should serve. they should make their own decisions and use their own judgment, represent the people and he abhorred partisan politics. he made that his final statement in his farewell address as president and it was remrekted in his own cabinet that included both thomas skrefrson and alexander hamilton. you couldn't have a wider range of great minds and so i think the partisanship would really disappoint him. >> edward. as you note, he was a strong opponent of political parties and partisanship is not a recent phenomenon and it was only a few years after he left the presidency that the u.s. started a strong partisan division. do you think his his vision for how the country would operate

was unreasonable all along? >> i don't think he appreciated the role, political parties could be used in representative government. so in that sense, he did not anticipate the future, but he also believed there were strong parties at that time. the election that he was elected in and the federalist and antifederalists were going at that time tooth and nail, and so he saw that, he was able to deal with that. he was still able to be elected unanimously and the federalist and an i federalist legislators voted for him and he as president tried to lead in a non-partisan way. that's why he had such a broad cabinet. so i think he did deal with it in part and other presidents have shown an ability on deal with it, but it's hard. it takes a leader like washington. >> it's an honor to have you with us. thank you so much. >> up next, my thoughts on what

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>> recently, i had the incredible experience of watching a baby come to life. my sister gave birth to a little boy named harrison who quickly picked up the nickname hank the tank. upon anyone who has been inside a delivery room will probably agree with me it is something almost something indescribable, so beautiful and so innocent. the journalist in me already has so many questions. what will harrison's personality be like? what will he be passionate about and what will he be like as a dad one day? as i asked myself these questions i can't help, but think about the world that he has just entered into with the threat of isis now at the center of attention, they've recruited

thousands of westerners more than a hundred from right here at home. just take a look at the most recent propaganda video, aiming to recruit anyone they possibly can. the jihadi in this video is speaking fluent english. who is he? where did he come from? that is the top priority of the fbi to figure out and this on the heels of a 19-year-old chicago man arrested at the airport while waiting for a flight to join isis. who are these westerners drawn to a group so savage al qaeda refuses to associate with them and to think that every single one of these terrorists at one point in their life was an innocent child. i'm sure their parents wondered what i did when my nephew was born. no one can fathom their son growing up to bewhich a monster, blowing up buildings and killing innocent civilians. take donald morgan who went from

being a sheriff's deputy to this. >> my islamic name is rahim had. >> it's going to be obama launching a drone strike. so it it matters not to me who the enemy is. >> and remember, this guy is now back here in the united states or this 26-year-old who left his comfortable western life to join the fight. cbs news got him to open up. take a listen. >> the food. electricity, warm water, these are the things that i miss, but the west -- hypocrisy. it's filled with hypocrisy. >> so what do we do? how do we stop this from happening some it it it stops by talking about it and making people aware of what's going on right here on u.s. soil. the president downplay this threat in his prime time speech last month. it's about a fostering a sense of community in every neighborhood. communities that rely on parents, friends, teachers, coaches and counselors to take a more active role because kids

that feel a sense of inclusion are far less likely to any to the extreme. we lose hope and it's about promoting the ideals that we stand for, freedom, equality and inclusion because those are the things that knit all of us together and finally, it's about responsible engagement around the world because without a sensible, cohesive and understandable foreign policy we unintentionally create lifelong enemies. there is no silver bullet here, but right there that is at least a five-point plan and we can't sit by and let isis succeed and take our very own with them because when you look at the big picture and look into the eyes of a newborn baby, everyone starts their life innocent and pure. i believe terror firsts are made, not born. that does it for "the cycle" accidental exwagner with a var familiar face starts right now. >> one town is putting the entire isis strategy to the

test. this is "now". >> this situation goes from bad to worse every day. ♪ ♪ >> isis now reportedly is in kobani. >> kobani is tragedy. >> in just the last 36 hours the u.s. military says it has conducted 23 different strikes around kobani. >> one community is not going to define the strategy over a few days. >> turkey remains reluctant to act. >> we are surrounded with allies who are not allies. >> what's it it going to take for turkey to do anything when there is possibly ethnic cleansing just miles from its border. >> turkish tanks have their canons pointed at kobani and not firing. >> if they take kobani we will have to look. if ground elements have to go into theater. >> the president is getting criticism all around on the isis st