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the army and one of ten will be committed to support this great country and support aid and the unique capabilities and fill gaps. >> nbc news just confarmed the remains of the only patient to die of the ebola virus in the united states have been cremated. not word on what happened to his ashes. screenings also start at major airports tomorrow. just yesterday there was an ebola scare on a us airways flight from philadelphia. they pulled a passenger off the plane after he claimed to have ebola and saying he just westerned frwestern africa. >> defense officials told us that the battle for the syrian turkish border town of kobani has ground to a stand still. black smoke could be seen rising above kobani today.
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air strikes pounded targets around the up to and further south. officials estimate that 40% of the syria town is under isis control already. according to the state department, turkey agreed to help arm and train moderates within syria to combat this. a flair up of tensions further east today. sdmoerth south korea trading fire after the north shot south korean propaganda balloons down. this as north korea leader appears to be missing. a no show today at ceremonies marking a national holiday. he has not appeared in believe it since early september raising questions about whether he remains in power. the stability of the region could hang in the balance. >> this becomes a serious competition they could break out, possibly to a civil war.
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>> kim jung unappeared to have a limp and no word if it's related to his absence. the nobel peace prize goes to malala. she continues to fight for a young woman's right to an education. something she spoke about yesterday. >> a girl is not supposed to be the slave. a girl has the power to go forward in her life. shooey is not only a mother and not only a sister and a wife. but a girl has the -- she should have an identity and should be recognized and as equal rights as a boy. >> at just 17 she is the youngest person to win the prize since it was created in 1901. she shares the prize with the man who fought against child labor in india. two months after the death of michael brown in ferguson, missouri, fresh protests across
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another town after a case that is drawing a lot of comparisons that involves an officer and a teen fatally shot and a fragile community depply distrustful of law enforcement. an off duty officer shot and killed 18-year-old meyers. police insist it was after a chase and altercation. meyers fired first three times and they recovered his gun and shell casings and other evidence at the scene. the time of the incident, meyers was out on bond and a charge of resisting arrest. in both he plead not guilty. he was out buying a sandwich with two friends and was unarmed. >> it has to stop. she just an innocent child. >> i thought my nephew would see me grow old and gray. that would never happen.
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they washed his blood away and can't wash away what happened yesterday. my family is deeply sorry and we are missing him already and we are hurt and we lost our child. >> all of this in st. louis, a community already deeply divided with eight more arrests made just last night. amanda is on the scene. last night in st. louis, police clashed with protesters after a peaceful prayer vigil turned violent. the officers were seen spraying pepper spray into the crowd. a lot of tensions there. what are you hearing today? >> for today, organizers say there is a very palpable sense of anger on the street. they anticipate this continuing on throughout the entire weekend. in just a few hours, the protesters are scheduled to gather just outside here outside
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st. louis. there should be crowds that gather and right now we are seeing protesters come into the city from across the country. they wanted this to be a national movement coming together for this weekend. >> what's the status of the investigation into meyers's death specifically? >> the last we heard from the st. louis police is that there were eight arrests last night and that's about the latest we about as far as the investigation. we know that st. louis's mayor is wanting to -- calling on the justice department to look into the investigation. they want to have a very transparent probe into finding out what exactly happened last night. >> thanks for following that story. we appreciate it. tensions are still high over in ferguson after the death of michael brown. it is two months since that death. there nearly a dozen events planned for the next few days. supporters of the family still search for justice. joining me now is the family
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attorney for the browns. thank you so much, ben, for coming back on. what was your reaction to hearing the latest news about the other young man in st. louis? >> it's troubling because again it has so many questions unanswered to a community that is already steaming about the action with the police and whether they are there to protect and serve or agitate the community. >> i interviewed both you and michael brown's father. take a listen to this moment. it struck me. >> if there is one positive thing that comes out of this very dark situation, what would you hope that would be. what is the one change you would like to see? >> for this not to happen to no one else. >> has the brown family been in touch with the meyers family at all? >> they have. it was one of just to offer prayers and condolences.
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michael brown and leslie are sincere in trying to say we want to use our child as a legacy to try to make some kind of change. we keep talking about this video and cameras on police. everybody who is out exercising their first amendment rights are asking for the mike brown law, but also asking that this governor appoint a special prosecutor to get transparency. other than that we don't know how people will react to the grand jury. >> let's talk about that. you filed an official request to have a special prosecutor appointed, replacing the current prosecutor. is there an update on that status? >> we have not heard back yet from the governor's office. we anticipate hearing something back one way or the other, but
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it's clear that there is a conflict of interest with the prosecutor using officer wilson and so many of his cases as the main witness and the arresting officer, but yet standing in judgment whether or not to indict him knowing that the other cases are gone. it's a conflict. why don't we have a special prosecutor so they can get due process and have a chance to get justice for their child. >> both in the community and on the ground questioning whether a grand jury was the right choice here. a question about the broader policy picture. problem spoke about the browns last weekend at a congressional black caucus event. take a listen to this. >> i won't comment on the investigation. i know that michael's family is here tonight.
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i know that nothing any of us can say can ease the grieve of losing a child so soon. but the anger and the emotion that followed his death awakened the nation once again. too many feel targeted by law enforcement. guilty of walking or driving while black and spur fear and hopelessness. >> what has been right and wrong in the federal interventions this this case? >> the one thing that we are encouraged by is that they expanded the probe to lock at all of the police department to see if this was a pattern that led up to michael brown's tragic demise at the hands of officer darren wilson in brought day light.
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you do want them looking at the big picture. you have the dinse dense when you think about what happened in south carolina and what happened in ohio and wal-mart. you think about they are gone in new york and louisiana where you have a young man handcuffed in the back of the police car. he is shot and killed. you have this happening just as president obama said walking while black and driving while black. it is very, very troubling to us black parents because we never know, is it going to be our child today? that's why we are fighting so hard to say we are all americans and we all deserve our constitutional rights as any other american. >> it's an important message there. our thoughts continue to be with the brown family. pass that on if you would. >> thank you. >> we will be keeping an eye on the stories of alleged police brutality that benjamin crump just mentioned around the country. up next, new developments
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regarding the only ebola patient to die in the united states. a very sad story. we have that coming up. will we see more scenes like this in the coming days? the ebola scare that knocked a flight to the ground. that's after the break. don't go away, everybody. (male announcer) it's happening. today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir®, an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® is now available in flextouch® - the only prefilled insulin pen with no push-button extension. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®, which lasts 28 days.
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>> we have just received word that thomas eric duncan was cremated today. new reports about his final day are emerging. they are igniting tough questions about how he was treated. according to the do you means obtained by the ap, the man known as eric had a fever of 103 degrees when he was sent home
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from the hospital in dallas leading to a days long delay in his treatment. that information was not confirmed. we will keep an eye on it for you and looking at getting a response from the hospital. a house security meeting on ebola is being held in the field look at the response to the duncan case. concern also kbroeing this weekend. major airports will begin screenings for ebola that include taking passengers's temperature. the senior editor has been following the story. the new evolutions about the condition that he was in when he was turned away from the support, what does that suggest about the preparedness? >> even though we knew ebola would be a thread, a chance of a still over would happen. somehow what seemed to be clear
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and a high fear we are now hearing, the travel history was missed. not only did that put others at risk, but clearing it delayed his treatment. >> there is a lot of questions about whether the level of alarm and communities everywhere is in line with the actual treat. we don't want to exacerbate the level of panic. one person diagnosed. by comparison, the enterovirus killed people in 47 states and four deaths. do you think the current level of reaction is in line with the level of threat? >> in no way. one person had the case and died and that person was not infected in the united states. it had not spread in the u.s.
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in liberia and guinea, it's ridiculous. ebola is a scary disease and has a high mortality rate and no way to treat it, but the level of panic is well beyond what we need to experience it. >> it's a helpful voiz of caution. just yesterday we saw the hazmat scare. new screenings start tomorrow. is that screening method of checking temperatures reliable? >> somewhat, but that would not have caught mr. duncan coming into the united states. it often takes a number of days for the symptoms to show up. travel history would be more important and knowing whether he had contact. the best bet is to treat it on the ground where it's happening in the epicenter. >> i just want a note on the comparison. the exact numbers, 47 states, four people dead just to be clear there.
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the firstus-e bella combatants from the military side are arriving on the ground in west africa. how much can they help? >> they can help build the materials we will need and that's what we need. we need boots in terms of nurses and doctors and it has been difficult to get that. they are as scared as anyone else and the risks are real for health officials and doctors and nurses. we need more protective equipment and it's slow in coming from the developed world and getting there. that's what really turn this is disease around. it's getting worse, not better. >> a lot of troubling news and reason to not panic at this point. brian walsh, thank you for the update. just ahead, a deadly set back in the fight against california's forest fires. we have got a report from inside that effort and it's you may not expect. guess who makes up 50% of that state's wildfire fighting force.
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>> lewis and morgan are two of the inmates locked up in the california prison system, but they are also something else. firefighters. trained to battle the wildfires that break out every dry season, the state of california has 4200 inmate firefighters that make up half of the firefighters force. >> i was excited. i wanted to come here. it's better than being stuck in prison. you can get out and do something that counts for something as opposed to wasting the days away doing nothing. >> inmate firefighters live in 40 wilderness areas around the state. it's more scout camp than
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it's definitely 50% hotter than it is outside. >> how dangerous is this business? >> like all firefighting, there is a high level of risk. we know that, but it's a risk we are willing to take. >> our thanks for that report. we will keep an eye on the fires. next, two states have controversial new rulings on voting restrictions. what does it mean for the 2014 mid-terms. we live in after the break. don't go away. [phones rings]
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>>. >> first up, a texas judge struck down a strict voter id requirement likening it to a
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poll tax meant to suppress the minority turn out. they blocked a similar measure in wisconsin. to give you a sense of how confusing these laws were, lewis black teamed up for this. >> this is a 2k0u789 which is supposed to show how easy it is. they can show how tough it is for the sterm to findhow diffic is to get there. people march and fought and died for the right to vote. they want to legislate away that sacrifice to stay in power? not on my watch, baby. >> he mad. the director of the voting rights you might recognize from that ad. thank you. >> thank fist are having me on.
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>> these laws will not go into effect now. 600,000 registered voter who is don't have this id can vote. they don't have this id and they can vote. it's a big deal and will affect the auction. >> do you think indirectly in terms of whether turn out amongst minorities that this will send a meaningful signal. >> i hope it does and our democracy is best served when more participate rather than fewer. he has done an analysis with 2% that decreases as a result of the strict laws. we have seen similar statistics. >> woe have the impact. they found in two states that passed harsher voeing restriction laws, kansas and tennessee turned out by over 100,000 votes. who do you think is affected most when you see that voter
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drop off? >> when you see the statistics, people are poorer voters and lower status and minority voters. the statistics showed they were about twice as likely not to have one of the foreigns of id as were white voters due to the lower status and discrimination. so it's not a surprise that the turn out would decline and not a surprise who suffers as a result. >> this hasn't been a complete victory. voter id restrictions have been upheld. what is next in the fight? >> for instance in wisconsin, the court didn't issue a final ruling that voter id can never be implemented. they said no way you can implement this in time for elections. hundreds of votes have been cast. they will invalidate that that makes no sense. we will have to continue litigating the case to determine whether or not this law can be implemented in the future.
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conditions like autism. there is no evidence of such link in the literature. they viewed existing literature and determined there was not a causal relationship between vaccines and autism. some parents are not convinced and continue to stay away from vaccines for their kids. joining us is the cofounder of thinking moms revolution and the author of the thinking moms revolution, autism beyond the spectrum. i wanted to get your personal story. you am at this from a personal place. i have awe simple in my family. what happened to your son after receiving a vaccine? >> our experience is not typical in that a lot of people say autism in their families evolved because of behavior. in our condition it was physical ailments after his 12-month
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vaccination. he became incredibly ill and had a 104 degree temperature and developed eczema and a kaboul condition that led to over 20 diarrh diarrhea-filled diapers a day. our journey began with physical illness and manifested in behavioral issues. >> we talked to a couple of doctors about this, the dean of the national school of trap cal medicine about your story. he said by the time a baby is born, autism has happened. we wouldn't expect a vaccine to cause changes in the brain. they can cause fever or allergic reaction, but there is no link between the use of the vaccines and autism. large epidemiological studies have been conducted. >> do you concede that the scientific evidence suggests theres no link? >> it's imperative that we pay close attention to the whistle
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blower's story. over 100,000 pages that tell us as parents we are not being told the truth. i can tell you my personal experience in watching my son fall into severe chronic auto inflammatory neurologic illness that we have problems we need to address. no one is saying that infectious disease is not real. we have ebola on our doorstep. we know this is a real threat, however chronic autoimmune and neurological illness as a result of infectious disease prevention theory is also very real. >> that are is not what the science seems to indicate. i want to push back on the claim on the whistle blower. he said his comments were taken out of context and he would never want to imply anything but support for vaccines. >> i would too if i was working at the cdc.
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i would too if i was still working there. >> you think there is a cover up here? >> i wouldn't say a cover up. i think massive ineptitude, absolutely. we are told as parents we are passionate about the science. we are passionate about the medicine. we are passionate about what is happening to the children of this country. over 50% of parents at this juncture of questioning vaccines and with good reason. there is one of me in every neighborhood. i got a call from a friend who is an educator and of 18 children, six have neurological anomalies that are more common. that's unacceptable. >> it's important to say to the audience and i keep my thoughts with your family and those of the families of the individual who is have children suffering for conditions and feel it may be linked to this. the science does say there is no link and this idea that there was a whistle blower has been debunked. there many people like yourself in communities with these
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concerns and one of the consequences of that is for instance the hollywood reporter looked at schools in l.a. and found they had lower rates than south sudan. in many of the schools we are seeing a resurgence of whooping cough and measles. my question is this. why put other children at risk who depend on your kid's immunity? >> i that's an excellent question. what we should be asking ourselves is what is it these affluent women who are married or our scientists and doctors themselves, what is it they know that they are not sharing with everyone else? it's time to look at both sides of this issue. chronic illness is the result of vaccines is very real. it's happening to children all over this country and all over this world. now is the time to act on it. now is the time for parents to take the accurate signs to their doctors. dr. thompson in my experience of
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him has not stepped off from what he said. he is waiting for indemnity to speak more. >> the study is something that the original authors looked at again and said they don't stand by the findings. >> the original authors? >> that's right. >> meaning dr. hooker? >> and they reanalyzed the data and what we know is that study has been debunk and removed from the public domain. >> i would strongly suggest having dr. hooker on your show and having him speak to you. it is not debunked. when the people interpreting them have a great deal to lose, they will do everything in their power to make sure the truth does not come out. our children have been harm and they are being harmed. our pediatricians are not educate and not aware of what's happening for an autoimmune perspective and what is happening from the mighto kopt ria of the children. >> i have so much sensitivity to
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your situation, but the science said we are not lose people to vaccines, but we are hurting people when they don't vaccinate. >> that are is inaccurate. thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> parents do the work. >> if you are passionate about this debate, for this week's call to action, get the facts out there. you see what this conversation is like right now. make sure everyone has an informed ability to make a decision. msnbc.com/ronan-pharafa msnbc.com/ronan-farrow-daily. share the facts on facebook and twitter. hundreds of you are weighing in and forcefully. natalie said as the mother of a child thank you for exposing the myth. keep the conversation going. we'll be right back. ther! how do you sleep like that? you dry up, your cold feels even worse. well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth.
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a fear about equal pay today.
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the ceo walking back choice remarks. sattia was asked what advice he had for women who were uncomfortable asking for a raise at the workplace. >> it's not really about asking for the raise, but knowing and having faith that the system will actually give you the right raises as you go along. that's good karma and it will come back because someone will know that's the kind of person i want to trust. that's the person i want to really give my responsibility to and in the long-term efficiency, things catch up. >> why didn't the founders think of that. women need to trust karma. as you can imagine, they didn't go over well. less than four hours after, he
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said it was inarticulate how women must ask for a raise. a raise should not be needed. he sent to this all employees. i answered that completely wrong. men and women should get equal pay. if you think you deserve a raise, just ask. mika is cohost of "morning joe." i assume you have gotten to the top on karma. is that the gist of it? >> i found the comments to be astonishing and a signal of a culture and a mind set from the top down that is not good and against everything we have been fighting for. that is exactly the advice that keeps us exactly where we are which is getting paid less than male counterparts. i wrote a book about this called knowing your value. i interviewed women at the top end of their game. one of the things they told me,
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a key thing was that the mistake was to sit and keep their head down and work hard and think somebody would notice. you have to be able to communicate your value effectively. >> that is an important message in your book and right here and now. this microsoft ceo admitted he got it wrong. what do the comments reveal about how women are still viewed in the workplace? >> it actually harkens back to the 50s when a woman's place was in the home. quite frankly, it's saying that women need to behave. look, we already have quite frank low a handle on that. i think women actually behave really too well for themselves. they are worried about what people think or worried about making people in the board room feel comfortable instead of demanding the respect they deserve. we need to think outside the box and be constructively and to be forward thinking and authentic
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about communicating our value. behaving is something that we do too well. >> i know you are at the white house for meetings and some of them for meetings. what advice do you have for women about asking for a raise and what advice do you have to leaders talking about this issue, and seemingly, getting it wrong? >> i had a meeting about initiatives on eququal pay comi up in the nicks six to nine months on. the president passed the lilly ledbetter act, signed it into law and signed an executive order because of exactly stories like this. for me, my advice is, don't apologize for your presence, don't be too grateful, and certainly don't sit around keeping your head down, waiting for good karma to come your way. we all have to work together. and certainly companies need to change their cultures. i see a lot of companies, including ours being extremely transparent and open about this issue. and wanting to move forward on
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it. we women need to be vocal and use our voices. and think outside the box, quite frankly, as to how to communicate our value effectively. i would not take this man's advice. >> that is incredible advice. i hear a lot of men and women supporting women cheering in the control room. thank you for all you do. >> can you see mika and joe scarborough weekdays at 6 a.m. "morning joe," it's the best. this is sparking controversy as well, sara silverman teamed up for a video highlighting the pay gap for women. take a look at this. >> every year the average woman loses around $11,000 to the wage gap. over the course of the working years of her life, that's almost 500 grand. that's a $500,000 vagina tax, that's why i'm taking matters into my own hands -- well,
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somebody else's hands, dr. goldstein -- or goldstein? >> o'malley. >> i'm becoming a dude. >> it's stumbled into a number of unexpected concerns, especially from a march beganalized community they did not want to. transgenders. glad president called the national women's law center an ally to transgender individuals and added this, she said it was well intended but missed the mark. we reached out to the national women's law center, the president is on a plane so we didn't have a comment going to air. when we do, we'll post it on our website. i have a guest within that trans community, chase. >> i think it's so important to
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talk about trans issues. it's so important to do this. >> it is a very important part of this. it strikes me this video is not hostile, i'm a sara silverman fan, everyone is well intentioned but they may have missed the opportunity. if she were to get gender reassignment surgery, she would face a new slew of discrimination. >> transpeople are some of the most economically marginal azed people. they are pushed out of the workplace at alarmingly high rate. we have transgendered people, particularly black transgendered women are pushed out. >> 47% of transgendered people say they were fired, not advanced or not hired due to gender identity.
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what needs to change for trans people to be treated equally? >> this type of employment discrimination is systematic and a serious problem for trans people and for all people. a colleague of mine recently framed this issue as discrimination to incarceration pipeline. we're seeing transpeople pushed out of the workplace, into homelessness and into incarceration. i think if we understand that, we can appreciate the urgency and really intervene. we have only 32 states -- we have 32 states where it's still legal to discriminate against transgendered people. we don't even have laws and a dire consequence for the transgendered community. >> what would you say to celebrities who are well intentioned but struggling thousand talk about this? >> i think it's so important we all have these conversations. we can look to our leaders, especially transgendered women of color, who are so eloquent on this issue and able to talk about race discrimination and gender discrimination as
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discrimination against transgendered people. we're talking about some of the most marginalized people in the united states are transgender people experiencing the most acute and violence discrimination, especially in the workplace. >> facing a lot of obstaclings and new promises with legislation in the work, some states formally recognizing these are people who need to be protected against discrimination. what's the most helpful thing people at home can do to be a part of this conversation? >> i think look to state and local legislation. we want to increase the number of states where transpeople are protected from discrimination. i think our movements to end mass incarceration are critically important for the trans community who are disproportionally incarcerated. another staggering number is 47% of black transgendered women have been incarcerated at some point in their life, which is directly impacted by the wage
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and job discrimination. >> that wraps up today's "r.f. daily," thank you for joining me. msnbc is also the home for the 2014 alma awards that recognizes the biggest latino stars. live tonight at 10 p.m. eastern/7 p.m. pacific. eva longoria and mario lopez will host. a very good looking proceeding. alex wagner is live from pasadena, california. up next "the reid report" with my fabulous colleague joy reid. in a race,
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dallas about how to stop the spread of ola in the u.s. as the texas health department confirmed today that thomas eric dunc duncan's remains have been cremated. we learned duncan had a 103-degree fever when he was sent home from the er days before being admitted. the associated press says it was flagged withen exclamation point in the record keeping system. the medical records come a day after the hospital responded to criticism over his care, saying he received the same high level of attention. including a team of 50 people, a 24-bed intensive care unit and a four-hour evaluation and numerous tests on his first visit. duncan's family has accused texas presbyterian hospital of unfair treatment. they say it's suspicious to us that all of the white patients survived and this one black patient passed away. it took eight days