dallas about how to stop the spread of ola in the u.s. as the texas health department confirmed today that thomas eric dunc duncan's remains have been cremated. we learned duncan had a 103-degree fever when he was sent home from the er days before being admitted. the associated press says it was flagged withen exclamation point in the record keeping system. the medical records come a day after the hospital responded to criticism over his care, saying he received the same high level of attention. including a team of 50 people, a 24-bed intensive care unit and a four-hour evaluation and numerous tests on his first visit. duncan's family has accused texas presbyterian hospital of unfair treatment. they say it's suspicious to us that all of the white patients survived and this one black patient passed away. it took eight days to give him

medication. he wasn't given a chance. sarah doloff joins me from outside the hospital in dallas. we do have changing stories as to the temperature that was taken of this man. it was first 101, now 103. what is the hospital saying now? >> reporter: we the hospital, we have reached out to them for comment on this 103-degree temperature. we have not yet heard anything back from them. now, they say in their report when he initially went to the emergency room that he presented with a temperature of 100.1. they say his condition at that time did not warrant admission and his symptoms were not severe when he first visited the er. now, when you look at that 103-degree temperature report, there are a lot of questions. we asked the hospital. we had not heard back. we received a statement saying, they are continuing to review and evaluate the chain of events regarding duncan's condition.

now, yesterday we heard from them for the first time on a lot of the other questions people had surrounding duncan's treatment. they defended themselves in saying, as soon as his condition warranted and as soon as they could get their hands on it, he was administered an experimental drug and talked about zmapp, given to the first two ebola patients treated in atlanta. that's out. there is no more zachmapp, dr. t brantley and nancy writebol, and dr. rick sacra treated in nebraska was not treated with that. there was none left at the time. they were also asked why he was not given a blood transfusion. they said he was not compatible with possible donors. surviving ebola patients can give the blood, containing

antibiot antibodies. they say he was not compatible. a lot more questions as we learn more details, learning his fever spiked to so 3 in the initial emergency room visit, enough that temperature was flagged with an exclamation point on his records. as you remember, he was released that day from the hospital after four hours of tests, sent home with antibiotics. he returned two days later via ambulance. his condition deteriorated from there. he went on a ventilator, respirator, eventually passing away. very sad story and the questions and debate on this topic very far from however. >> sarah doloff, thank you very much from dallas. we are awaiting that news conference from the family of louise troh, the fiancee of the late thomas eric duncan. the other big issue at hand regarding ebola is the overall readiness of the u.s. to fight the spread of the virus. that, of course, means money.

joan walsh is an msnbc political analyst, editor-at-large of salon.com and emily, executive director of coalition for health funding. thank you both for being here. and i'm going to start with you, joan, because you wrote a piece that spoke my mind, as you often or want to do. about the tricky conundrum. you have a lot of use by republicans of the ebola. however, the sequester which came as a result of tea party republicans in the house demanding cuts to the budget. cut $1.55 billion from the budget from national health, slashed global health programs by $411 million and u.s. aid by $298 million. you say the budget is written up by congressman paul ryan and passed by the house gop, would have deepened those cuts significantly. the cdc's budget has been cut 6 $610 million since 2010.

>> i don't want to scare people. i think they're doing a great job with the resources they have, but we have cut back on public health infrastructure. it can't help but have effects. you know, i think this one party that's been screaming for the government to do more, has hampered the government's response. i don't think it's totally relevant in the duncan case, but rick perry is a guy who rejected medicaid expansion. 1.5 million texans who could be insured are not being insured. some people exposed to mr. duncan are now without medicaid or without insurance. i hope they'll be cared for, but they're not sure about that. so, we have this environment in which we have just been slashing public health funding in many places. and not expanding it where it could be expanded. and then we're blaming government for not doing enough. >> right. emily, you know, in the case of the texas hospital, there isn't

a direct line that you can draw, however texas is one of the states that got this federal training, supposedly to be ready, but do we have a situation where if there's not enough money at the front end, to provide proper training, that even the training has to be questioned as to its efficacy? >> it's a great question, joy, and something the coalition has been tracking for some time now. i would echo joy's point that the cutting started in public health long before sequestration really starting in 2008 at the state and local level. since that time we have seen 50,000 public health professionals lose their jobs. and every week many, many more are on furlough. it's illegal for them to work. these are doctors, nurses, scientists and other highly trained policies whose job it is to keep us safe. and when they don't have the resources to do their job, it puts us at greater risk because public health is really a people-based profession and system. and if you don't have the people

there to respond and monitor in real time and quickly, that time means lives. and we're all at greater risk. >> absolutely. i want to bring in congressman barbara lee, who we happen to have, one of several democrats who has been calling for hearings on this very issue, on funding, to prevent an ebola outbreak in the united states. congresswoman, thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. happy to be with you. >> thank you. so, "the wall street journal," congresswoman, has pushed back on the idea that the problem we face is too little money. obviously, very few cases now but if there were a public health crisis they say a the lo of the cdc's funding arrives outside of the normal progress with congress making emergency and supplemental appropriations as the need arises. supplanted dollars that used to be distributed through regular order. we all know the public health fund was cut in the sequester. is this an issue where it's a red herring democrats are throwing, where there's plenty of money for cdc, nih, et

cetera, et cetera, to do what they need to do? >> first, let me just say, that's absolutely incorrect. when you see what has happened to the budget -- i serve on the appropriations committee. i'm on the subcommittee that funds both our domestic and international, our global health initiatives. the republicans have cut, for example, 44% in our federal hospital emergency preparedness fund. they've cut 14% to 15% in cdc funding. they cut 10% in national institute of health funding. i could go on and on and on. it may not be about funding but a lot has to do with putting the resources where the epidemics, where our global health and domestic health needs are. i have worked for many, many, many years on our hiv/aids responses. we have to get in front of the pandemic and invest billions of dollars in pharma, the global fund, and minority aids initiative. you have invest tax dollars into the types of responses that are

going to really meet the great challenges of global health. that's just a fact. >> joan, this is a pressing issue as the united states is sending members of our military to west africa to try to meet the virus, because that is where the spread is. i think we just updated the death toll in west africa to over 4,000. 4,033 people have died. we've had spers on this program who have said, what you need is western health and medicine in there. that is u.s. aid funding, the public funding also being cut. >> right. people are so -- some people are so keen to send our military here and there to do military intervention, but the interventions that really make a difference, joy, we can actually make a difference on these issues with our health infrastructure. but, you know, that's being cut back. now, you know, senator vitter has questioned the new appropriation for ebola because it spends too much money on africa, as though there's any other place that -- you know, that is more important in containing this. so, there's a level of

zenephobia. it's easy to bash foreign aid. it's easy to say close the borders and not let people in. that's the exact wrong response. we have to reach out, help solve the problem and keep it from coming here. it's not by shutting our borders or having a travel ban. >> joy, can i just mention? congress woman from connecticut has led our subcommittee, the democrats on the subcommittee, in writing a letter to our committee chair to ask for hearings so that we will know exactly how these huge budget cuts have impacted our response now as it relates to ebola and global health response in general as it relates to our health and human services subcommittee. so, we're waiting on a response because we think the public really needs to understand what you're talking about today and that is, how these budget cuts have impacted our response. >> yeah. and, emily, on a local level, when you're talking about public hospitals or even private hospitals that are treating indindy gent patients, how much

does that impact the ability to give care to people who are in large cases uninsured in the er? >> that's a great question. it's extremely critical, as state and local budgets have eroded, the public infrastructure has relied more and more on public funding. just for example, i'm reminded as we look at the ebola coverage of the anthrax infections after 9/11 and congress poured billions and billions of dollars into investing into emergency preparedness and response. since that time those investments have gind dwindled. in fact, they've been cut by a third. what that means on the ground for public health workers trying to respond, in a place like southwest utah department of health, their workforce to respond to public health sda disasters has been cut by more

than half. they have 52 people who can help and are expected to help more than 200,000 residents covering a 20,000 square mile region. that's, i think, pretty scary. and it's putting a lot of pressure on the public health system and the dedicated workers to respond and not providing the resources they need. >> sounds like a very small number of people to treat a potentially large number of people. thank you all for being here. >> thank you so much, joy. judges, meanwhile, smack down voter i.d. laws in wisconsin and texas. it's a victory for minority voters and democrats. how much will it impact the midterm elections with just 25 days to go? plus, protesters filled the streets of st. louis last night, frustrated by another instance of deadly force used by police. we'll go live to missouri for the latest. we're waiting on a news

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if. welcome back. two court rulings are finally giving opponents of strict voter i.d. laws a chance to celebrate. the most significant decision may have come from the supreme court which on two previous occasions have side with quefshgtives. the court decided wisconsin's harsh voter i.d. law may not go into effect with absentee ballots cast without it and while challenges are still winding through the courts. that's good news for democrats locked in a tight gubernatorial race with incumbent scott walker. texas, home of another big name gubernatorial contest, federal district court judge ruled against that strict voter i.d.

law. ryan heygood with the naacp fund, which has been on the front lines of these laws. thank you for being here. let's first talk about that texas case. a scathing decision by the judge who called it a poll tax. explain the case. who were the plaintiffs? >> thank you for having me on the show and particularly for covering these important topics. this is an important democracy moment, the texas photo i.d. case is one that's a striking ruling in the sense that the judge in this case authored a 147-page opinion, which includes incredible breadth and depth. the court over two weeks heard from almost 40 witnesses, including real people who were really impacted by texas's foet-e photo i.d. measures. they included people, for example, our client, a student at historically black college. she previously used her student i.d. to vote but under texas's

racially discriminatory and very restrictive law she could no longer use her student i.d. but texas would allow her to use it for concealed handgun license. this stands for the proposition at a time when texas was experiencing explosion of people of color in the state in particular in the last ten years, texas has grown by nearly 4 million people, 90% of that growth was fueled by people of color. there was a moment for texas to find a way to increase participation in their electorate. instead they decided to pass what is one of the most racially discriminatory measures in the country. >> it was rolled back by, i think, judges only to have when the supreme court sort of stripped the heart of the out of voting rights act, they immediately implemented it. we were talking about a senior in texas who was also impacted from the law. >> sammy bates is a poor, black woman surviving on fixed income

of about $350 a month. ms. bates testified to the court that in order to comply with texas's photo i.d. measure, she would have to purchase a birth certificate at a rate of $42. so, she literally said to the court in her testimony, hi to make a decision as between participating in texas's electoral process, which would cost me $42 or feeding my family. she said to the court, joy, i can't eat a birth certificate and neither can my family. she ultimately chose the only option she had, which was to feed her family. this is part of the reason the court found in a striking opinion that ultimately texas's photo i.d. law is a problem in search of a solution. the problem is that it violates the voting rights act. it was enacted with intentional discrimination, as you mentioned, it is an unconstitutional poll tax. as the court ruled, is that texas's law must be enjoined as it is right now. >> of course, this could still then go back to the supreme courting which in its previous

history, at least recent history, has tended to side with states and with their strict voter i.d. laws or with laws that cut early voting, as they did in ohio. they sided with north carolina. what is the expectation if this does go to supreme court? >> texas has already indicated their intention to appeal this to the fifth circuit. the truth is the record in this case, as established by the plaintiffs in this case -- i work for the naacp legal defense fund. our co-counselor was a law firm and together with other plaintiffs we established a record we think is really sound. the supreme court seized on that in this opinion. we think that on appeal, the fifth sir cut cut, if ultimately the supreme court hears, it will uphold what the district court did this in case. >> indeed. we'll be watching what happens in wisconsin and texas. appreciate you being here. angela wright is a political strategist and joe madison hosts a nationally syndicated

"mornings with madison." let's talk about the practical impact of these rulings. you now have a kind of grab bag of decisions by the supreme court and by district courts. in texas, north carolina, in wisconsin and ohio, angela, in terms of strategizing for the election, is the confusion and the sort of different rulings, does that make it more difficult on the ground for people trying to register people and encourage them to vote? >> well, it doesn't make it difficult for registration. and as you know, historically in our communities, the registration is never really the problem. we always have record numbers of registrants. the problem is turnout, particularly in a midterm. the problem is, there is not a black presidential candidate on the ballot. the problem s in so many of these elections, in the midterm there's no candidate our community tends to be excited about. so what do you rely on? in 2012 we the president, who

was already elected in office, could rely upon the fact that voters' rights were being challenged, they were being compromised and suppressed. we know that's a battle continuing today, in part because of these varying decisions from the supreme court. but i think the other thing that we have to rely on and empb courage people to do is vote against something. sometimes you aren't in a position to vote for a candidate you like or for a person thaw like, so then you vote against an individual who does not represent your interests. and i think that is a message that we have to take into the midterms coming up in 25 days. >> joe madison, we were talking with ryan heygood of the naacp defense fund. he mentioned this long decision by the judge in texas. she said sb 14 creates an unconstitutional burden on the right to vote. has impermissible discrimination effect against hispanics and african-americans and was

imposed with an unconstitutional discriminatory purpose. the court further holds that the sb 14 constitutes an unconstitutional poll tax. she says that law was written with the intent of targeting black and hispanic voters. i'm sure your audience talks about this all the time. does that dampen enthusiasm or increase it? >> it can do both. dampening it, it can cause confusion. people ought to know, there was a recent study done that showed in 17 states, you know, including texas, 17 states, now get this, getting an i.d. to vote can cost anywhere from $14.50 to $58. and a lot of people don't realize that. they say, what do you mean $58? well, people have to take into consideration, depending on where you live, transportation, the cost of a birth certificate. but for $14 to $58. that's a lot of money, particularly for poor people who

should be voting. number two, what i think you also have to do, in addition to what angela is talking about, women. especially single women. you vote for what? you want equal pay. young african-americans dealing with police problems. look what just happened in ferguson. that's what you vote for. you can also point to -- i should also point out, when you see people trying to stop you from doing something, the one thing i know about african-americans is that's when they really turn out the vote. when you try to keep something from us, that's when we really turn out to make sure we get it. >> indeed. i wish we had nor time. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. still ahead, a live report from missouri where tensions are

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this four-day push was originally organized to mark the death of michael brown. but in the wake of this week's fatal shooting of another black teenager, by an offduty police officer nearby st. louis, it's taken on a greater sense of urgency. social media lit up of protesters burning the american flag while chanting, hands up, don't shoot. it was part of a second night of protest over the death of 18-year-old. demonstrators clashed with protesters in riot gear with officers at one point using pepper spray. st. louis police say eight people were arrested, two department vehicles were damaged, and one st. louis police officer was hit in the arm with a brick. police have not released the name of the offduty officer. they say he was wearing his uniform and patrolling the neighborhood in his car wednesday evening when he encountered myers and two others on foot. police say the officer and myers got into a physical altercation. the officer then chased myers after which police say myers

fired three shots and the officer returned fire with 17 rounds. the victim's family tells a different story, saying myers was unarmed, carry nothing more than a sandwich that a convenience store owner says he purchased minutes before he was killed. police say a weapon was recovered at the scene. local leaders are now demanding an investigation by the u.s. justice department. joining me now from ferguson is "usa today's" amish. was the officer on or off duty? if he was off duty, why would he be patrolling? >> he was off duty, is what police are telling us. he was supposed to be patrolling, from my understanding, he was hired by a private community to patrol that community, so he was not on duty and patrolling. he was supposed to just be driving around, keeping things safe in that neighborhood. he was not in, from my understanding, a marked car, so he was not on duty. >> we've had a lot of people on our social media feed asking a few questions. we obviously know, we don't know the name of the officer who shot and killed this young man.

have police commented on why they're not releasing that name? >> police have not commented on that. i think they're following the same reason they didn't release darren wilson's name. to protect the officer, give him time to get ready for whatever backlash might happen when darren wilson's name was released. reporters came to his door right away. so, i think maybe the department is just giving him some time to get things together before they release his name. >> we also know that the young man, myers, was facing a trial on a weapons charge. he was free on bond. was wearing an ankle monitoring device. he pleaded not guilty. another reider asked, perhaps if myers ran because he feared being caught out of his house while on home confinement as a condition of bail. do you know any more of the

conditions of myers' home confinement and if he was allowed to leave the house to go to a convenience store to buy a sandwich? >> i don't know that because his family is saying he wasn't on bond and wasn't wearing a ankle monitoring bracelet. court records say he should have been wearing an ankle monitoring device. they held a press conference and they said, that's not true. asked them directly myself. said, was he wearing an ankle bracelet? they said no. i talked to them personally and they denied that he was wearing that ankle bracelet. so, i think it's really peculiar what his conditions were. >> and discrepancy about what he was wearing. let me show you what st. louis police chief sam dodson said which is causing a lot of people to get upset. >> i have seen his contacts with law enforcement even as an adult in a very short period of time. when i ran his name in the computer, something popped up. something that would certainly be no stranger to law enforcement. >> and what we do have a news

conference we have to go to. quickly, how is the community reacting to that? >> people are really, really upset because they think it's character assassination. they are likening it to when the police released the alleged robbery footage of michael brown. they say he was a good kid, high school senior and he deserved a chance. even if he had some parts -- some record, he shouldn't have been shot. >> indeed. i'm sorry to cut this short. thank you very much. appreciate it. let's go live now to the press conference being held by a spokesperson for louise troh, the girlfriend of thomas eric duncan. she is speaking now. let's take a listen. >> s-e-y-m-e-n-d-y, the last name is l-l-o-y-d. >> you say -- pronounce your first name. >> seymendy. >> can you tell us -- this is michael myers, dallas morning news. can you tell us what the family

thinks about the decision to send mr. duncan home after the first time he went to the hospital? >> they were very upset. louise knew -- she didn't know he had ebola, but because of the level of the fever, his fever was very high, she didn't think that was a good idea to send him home. >> reporter: she knew something was wrong? >> yes. >> reporter: she didn't know it was ebola. she knew he should have stayed in the hospital? >> she knew they should have done something better than sending him home. the first time it was just sending him home with nothing. and the fever was just too high to send someone with such a high fever. >> reporter: and it's true thomas duncan's medical records, when he had a temperature of 103, it was -- it was flagged with an exclamation point as being too high. is it true that duncan also told a nurse that he had recently been to africa? >> yes. he said he was coming from liberia.

>> reporter: but can you expand on the 103 temperature? was that something -- i mean, if they wrote that in the records and put an exclamation point, did they give any explanation as to why they would send him home? >> no explanation at all on why they sent him home with 103-degree temperature. if you went to want hospital right no and your temperature was 103 degrees, no doctor would send you home. >> reporter: because of that, is the family considering legal process? >> at the moment they're in the grieving process. legal action is something that will probably come later on. at this moment they're grieving over the fact they were not able to give him a decent burial but had to be cremated the same day of his death.

>> reporter: and what's going to happen with his ashes? is there i plan for a service for him? >> it's going to be given to his son. and there is a service planned, but we are waiting for louise, after her incubation period. >> reporter: and how is she doing? what are doctors telling her? >> she doesn't see any doctor right now. she doesn't have any fever. she's doing pretty good. this morning she said, my blood pressure is not high. i have no fever. no vomiting, no diarrhea, no symptoms of ebola. she said, i'm just counting the days and i know that god will see me through. she remains hopeful. >> reporter: what's the feeling in dallas right now amongst the west africa community? are people frightened? are people, you know, feeling

that maybe it's been put behind them to a certain extent? what are people saying? >> well, it's not only the african community. i think it's the whole of dallas. i've talked to whites, blacks, hispanics. i don't think it's a black issue right now when it comes to the community and the way the community feels about this. i think the community feels that it's a human right issue and it needs to be addressed. if it was left with the community, there would be a lawsuit being filed right now. that's how racist it is. >> reporter: people are that outraged the hospital acted in such a fashion? >> yes. a lot of the people, even when i was on the plane coming in, i didn't tell them who i was, just listening to the conversation. in my travels. and it was white, blacks and everyone stating that this man was not treated fairly. he was not treated fairly. and they felt this was a racial issue.

>> reporter: in a statement released by the hospital on october 2nd, they said mr. duncan was presented with a temperature of 100.1 degrees fahrenheit. do you have anything -- could you provide any detail on the discrepancies with that report compared to the 103 degrees, which is much higher? >> louise did talk to eric -- i mean, the hospital on that day. her last day speaking with eric was on friday. and she has been trying to call the hospital to give her information. they won't give her any information. so the information you have was not given to us until later on. what the hospital did with that, while they claim that they didn't have 4 consent to treat him, but the family members were right there. how could they not have had consent to treat him? >> reporter: the hospital claims they didn't have consent? >> yes. when we asked why he was on

dialysis, they said they made that decision to put him on dialysis. why the family was not informed about that? and they said because they didn't have a consent and that eric was in a state that he was in, so they decided to just go ahead and make that decision. but then you could not make the same decision to give him medication, but you can make a decision to put him on dialysis after you have experimented or have him lay there without any medication and his kidney and every -- you know, his organs are just dying away. he's been having a high fever since he went to the hospital. he went in the hospital with a high fever. if he still had a high fever up to friday, that's a problem. what are you giving him for these high fevers? we all know what high fever does to a person's body. >> reporter: so would you say because of the circumstances of

the entire family, because mrmr. mr. duncan was in the hospital and his family was in quarantine, was there a disconnect between what the hospital was doing and getting permission for those things? >> louise and all of the family members were just a phone call away, so that is not an excuse. >> reporter: but you don't think that the hospital did enough to coordinate with them? >> no, they did not. the family called every day, two, three times a day. and there were times they were told by the nurse that she could not answer the questions. there were times she was told the doctors are in a meeting, they'll call you back. and on friday before -- last friday, louise was very upset that they were not giving her answers. she will call and there would be no answers. they would promise to call her back or call one of the family members back, and they were not communicating at all until we decided to take some actions.

>> reporter: how is the health of the family members at this moment? is anybody symptomatic or anything? >> notice, no one is showing any symptoms. they are doing fine. eric is doing fine. ice just worried about school right now. as you all know, he received the death news about his father and then not even an hour later got a call from the president of the university that he was no longer welcome. we are hoping he will be able to go back to school but he has not been around his father. he has not seen his father at all since he was 3 years old. so, it is impossible for him to, you know, have the virus. he has not been around his father since he was 3 years old. the only opportunity he had to

just be in the same building with his father was on tuesday evening. and when we went to the hospital to see him and requested to see him via skype, the hospital told us that eric's name was not on the list of people to visit and so they could not allow this boy, his only son, only child, to see him. and win of the nurses came outside and said to eric, i'm so happy to meet you because before your father stopped talking, all he talked about was you. all he talk -- >> all right. you are listening to seymendy lloyd, the spokesperson for louise troh, the fiancee of thomas eric duncan, who died in the dallas hospital with ebola. she said the family was not given the kind of information they should have been given. they're questioning the

treatment that mr. duncan received at texas presbyterian hospital. she says that louise did not know that her fiancee had ebola but did understand he had a high fever. felt he should have remained in the hospital. thought it was not a good idea to send him home. says louise troh does not have a high fever, vomiting, diarrhea, and is counting the days yl her quarantine is over. ms. lloyd expressing real anguish on the part of that family and saying the hospital did not treat thomas eric duncan in the way they should have done. and saying the people she's talked to, black, white, indifferent believe it was a racial issue. he was not treated fairly. and she said, quote, if it was left up to the community, there would be a lawsuit already being filed in that case. we'll, of course, have much month on this and we'll continue to follow that story. we're turning now to other news. isis is reportedly inching closer to baghdad even as it

continues to battle kurds in kobani in syria. the group has reportedly taken control of several towns in anbar province to the west of iraq's capital giving more fodder to critics who say the administration's air strikes only policy is doing too little, too late to save civilians in iraq or syria. the state department had this to say about the fighting near baghdad. >> nobody thought as soon as we would take air strikes they would stop fighting. we know there will be intense fights as part of this conflict. in the days and months ahead. we should all be prepared for that. this is a tough fight. >> general wesley clark, former nato commander and former presidential candidate and author of a new book "don't wait for the next war." thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> so, in your new book you talk about american power and the uses of it and how our influence can still be used in the world. i'll read one quote that will be familiar to you. the power to maneuver abroad to drives not only from our strong

military and able diplomats but also even more fundamentally from our economic power. economic power is hard power. talk about this situation, where our economy is growing and improving, our americans may not believe in it, but it is, and we're still cutting budgets to things like foreign a&m aid while trying to do this limited pinpricking against isis, how is that working in a situation where the american people want us to robustly fight a group like isis? >> well, everything counts in does like this. so, we've got forces in the pacific. we've got forces in europe. we're doing exercises in europe. of course, we're active still in afghanistan and in the middle and all of it requires money and that money is still, despite the fact that the economy is doing better, we're still running a deficit. so, you could say that all that money is being borrowed. and it's being borrowed from foreign nations. what we have to do is use the resources and skills and the money in private institutions in america to restart or

reinvigorate our economy. and the best way we can do that is really in the energy markets, in oil and gas and biofuels, so we don't keep importing hundreds of billions of dollars a year of petroleum. >> general clark, you know, at the same time we are cutting those budgets and we are facing austerity in washington, yesterday we had on a human rit rights activist who said despite what we're trying to do militarily in a iraq or syria, you say you have groups like isis who are paying $1,000 a man for people to fight in their army. if we were to provide the same robust economic aid to the middle east gs, we could do much more than pinprick bombing in syria. what do you make of that argument? >> i make that's probably unlikely because a lot of the motivation is not only financial in the case of isis but also religious zeal. we're in the middle of a 300-year struggle of islam to

come to terms with the modernization of the west. and one of those efforts of islam is wahabishm,en extreme interpretation of shariah law. that's behind a lot of the zeal isis brings to the battlefield. money helps but it doesn't replace that zeal to fight. we have to help on the margins but this is a problem within islam and within the nations in the region. that's why it has to be their boots on the ground, not ours. as to be. >> all right. it's one of those days when i keep saying, i wish we had more time. i will say it with you, sir, general wesley clark, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪

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tonight on msnbc, the 15th annual alma awards will kick off to celebrate outstanding achievement by latinos in film, television and music. my colleague and pal, jose

belard got an interview with the host, eva longoria. >> it's our 15th year of doing the alma awards. and it's the only awards show that actually celebrates positive images of latinos in television and film and in music. so, for us, it's -- it is more than an awards show. >> we're joined live from pasadena, california. what can we expect tonight? >> joy, it's going to be an amazing night. it promises to be a very spectacular show with live performances from lifetime achievement awards given to charo, daisy fuentez, an exciting night, latinos representing the community, giving back to the community. eva and mario will be doing a

phenomenal job hosting the awards and jose will be here to launch this special platform, 15 ambassadors also -- going back down memory lane and counting back on special moments during theal the almas. live performances, amazing actors and actresses starting at 10 p.m./7 p.m. on msnbc and mundos. i'll be hosting the preshow live on telemundo. >> charo is what i'm looking forward to. she's finally getting her dues. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. you can watch the alma awards tonight at 10 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc.

and then tonight at 11 p.m., catch "after the almas" hosted by the fabulous alex wagner. if you have a question about eva longoria, tweet it with #alma14. she may answer on msnbc after the awards. that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you tomorrow at 2 p.m.

athat's enough plastic bottles boto stretch aroundery year. the earth 230 times. each brita filter can replace 300 of those. clean. clear. brita water. nothing is better. the u.s. military is on the front lines against ebola. this battle is serious with dire new comparisons to the aids crisis. good afternoon. i'm abby huntsman. members of our armed forces are starting a two-pronged attack. screenings at five u.s. airports start tomorrow where 94% of passengers from west africa arrive. medically trained coast guard members will run those checks while homeland security train others to take over that job. u.s. marines are on the ground

in liberia with thousands more set to follow. six u.s. military flights arrived on thursday alone. >> we have unique capabilities that nobody else has. our military is essentially building an infrastructure that does not exist. in order to facilitate the transport of personnel and equipment and supplies to deal with this deadly epidemic and disease. and we are doing it in a way that ensures our men and women in uniform are safe. that has been my top priority. >> the initial goal is to run site surveys and start construction plans for ebola treatment units. 17 of them should be up and running before thanksgiving, along with seven mobile testing labs and additional training facilities. >> as we deploy america's sons and daughters to support this comprehensive effort, we will do everything in our power to address and mitigate the potential risk to our service members, civilian employees, contras