at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc and immediately following it, hosted by alex wagner. alex is back here on monday. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans and welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work. let's talk about the minimum wage. >> raising the minimum wage. >> we're creating a mind set we have a minimum wage economy. >> might be key. >> raising the minimum wage is not the answer. >> it's hard to believe that any american could survive on $7.25 an hour. >> you just spent in ten seconds what i will make in an hour. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> folks, i'm sorry, i'm just a business guy. >> job creators in america. >> the job creators. >> when does the greed stop? >> calm down.

>> good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching, senator ted kennedy asked that question on the senate floor back in 2007 and we're still asking the same question today as americans. and today marks national minimum wage day in this country. after spending time in iowa and south dakota the last couple days i can tell you this is an issue that americans in the middle of the country care about. i don't know if it's going to move anybody in washington. people in the middle of the country talk about isis and ebola but it's not at the top of their list. they care about the economy and they care about jobs and income and equality. and voters will no doubt have this issue on their minds when they head to the polls on november 4th. some states aren't waiting for the federal government to do anything and act on minimum wage. they doing it themselves. alaska, arkansas, nebraska, south dakota. think about that, arkansas, nebraska and south dakota, these states are going to have ballot

measures to increase the minimum wage in their states. polls in these states have shown consistently that residents favor the increase. typically these states, what do they do? they lean republican. now that should tell all of us something. americans want a raise. even republicans want a raise but it's republican politicians are not in step with the main stream folks in this country. they are bucking the system. they're bucking what the people want. just look at some of the senate races going on around the country. for instance in iowa, tea party favorite joni ernst is in a close race with bruce bralye. the tea party thinks the federal government should have no part in raising the wage. >> you have stated you are against a national minimum wage and it should be determined by states. what should iowa's minimum wage be? >> i do think that is something

that needs to be set by the states. the iowa cost of living is very low. currently it's 7.25 dollars an hour. the way we can do better for our families is by growing our economy and making sure that we have good paying jobs to go out to, making sure our college graduates are finding jobs. >> we should point out that iowa is a low-wage state and some think that ernst dodged the question. her opponent was quick to clarify her position. >> senator ernst has made it very clear she is opposed to a federal minimum wage. she would not vote to raise it. she would vote to repeal it and would not raise the state minimum wage. that means if you are working a full-time job in iowa you will be making $15,000 a year. i think that's wrong. she has called a federal minimum wage ridiculous. i think it's ridiculous that a family working full-time in this

state is making $15,000 a year. >> and in north carolina we have another close senate race. kay hagan is up on thom tillis by four pounds. tillis thinks it would a job killer. >> this is something i believe is best left to the states, versus a regulatory overreach. we have to understand the job-killing consequences of these sorts of policies. it's not something that kay hagan going to washington should agree with washington politicians how we deal with that issue in north carolina. we are creating a mind set that we have a minimum wage economy. i want an economy where minimum wage is a brief steppingstone to higher paying jobs. >> tillis needs to realize that the earning power of americans has been reduced since 2008. that the fact is that the cost of living has gone up.

he's not living in the real world. that's not where americans are. you can't trust businesses to raise wages for workers. if the federal minimum wage didn't exist, workers would be getting paid less. the facts are simple, $7.25 an hour is not enough to live on. the cost of living has skyrocketed. gas is up 44% and we give the oil companies subsidies. meanwhile the federal minimum wage has risen 0%. if you think this is acceptable you are a righty. i think it's unfair. we talk about income and equality in this country, there you have it. it's up to the government to make sure it is fair and to fix this problem and it's a fact that minimum wage increases help the economy. tillis has no clue what he is talking about. he can't point to one time in this country where we have raised the minimum wage and it has hurt the economy.

the numbers are clear. 13 states have raised their minimum wage so far this year. states that raise the minimum wage have seen almost a 1% increase in the job growth. states that did not raise the minimum wage saw half that increase. so if people have more money to spend, they put it right back into the economy. americans like to spend money. it's pretty simple. early theier today president obama released a web video stressing the importance of the increase for american workers. >> today a mom or dad working full-time on the minimum wage does not earn enough to make ends meet. that's not right. it's wrong. that's why it's long past time for us to raise the minimum wage. momentum is on our side. 13 states and a growing number of businesses big and small have answered the challenge i laid out last year and raised their workers wages. now it's time for congress to

step up and do what is right. >> the stock market is going nuts. life is got for the top 2% and you can count on one thing in all of this, republicans will never raise the minimum wage. it's not us versus them it's a political fact. that's why this mid-term election is so critical. democrats think it is time for the government to take responsibility and to make sure that somebody who works a full-time job gets paid a good wage and you shouldn't have live in america we think we're the greatest country in the world although china is now the biggest economy. you would think we have folks who work hard and don't livt under the poverty line. it's time. get your cell phones out. tonight's question, do you think the minimum wage will be an election issue? text a for yes, and "b" for now to 67222. we'll bring you the results later on in this broadcast.

for more, let me bring in congressman -- of arizona. good to have you with us. and do you think that this is going to move voters in a mid-term in an off-year election? has this gotten enough attention in conversation that it's going to move people and make a difference in this mid-term election? good the have you with us. >> i think it will move people. has it got enough attention? has there been the public discussion and attention that it should to this issue? probably not. but i think americans and voters in this mid-term realize that there is a wage inequity. an income inequity, a gender inequity when it comes to what people make for a living. you mention those facts in the beginning of the program. 239% increase in profits, after taxes for corporation since

1980. 178% increase in income for the top 1%, 2% in this country. 145% increase in the economy overall and less than a 9% increase for median income families in this country. that's the disparity and the minimum wage is tied to that issue strongly. $10.10 an hour is barely catching up from what we haven't done for so long. i hope that 70% of the american people support this. we're going back into a lame duck. i would hope that there is some courage to allow this issue on the part of leadership to deal with this issue. i believe, yes, the american people know that this economy doesn't turn around without good wages and jobs. >> congressman, how else do we read this? republicans are not going to raise the minimum wage. if they had it their way, they

would want to get rid of the minimum wage altogether. some are advocating that. they cannot be trusted, can they? >> i don't believe that they can. and i think that the facts in history proves that point to be correct. when they talk about let the free market work its will, the free market absent of any really participation by employees, workers and their families, in terms of the benefit to make from economic growth. if it was up to them, salaries would be the survival of the fittist and a darwin economic theory for workers in this country. the minimum wage is a safety valve and guarantee they are treated fairly. >> do you think americans who do not make minimum wage, who do well, do you think, for instance, your constituents in arizona, do the people who are above minimum wage care about

those who are on minimum wage? >> absolutely. they do. i tell you why. we all end up having to subsidize the lack of adequate wages in this country. as taxpayers they care. if we had a minimum wage we would have $135 million extra compensation early. $22 billion would be income to be used. less people on public assistance, more self sufficiency, healthier families. the overall benefit to families above minimum wage is that when the wage raises their standard of living raises as well. >> congressman, great to have you with us, i appreciate your time. for more, let me bring in larry cowen. this is the $64 question, 20 some days before the election is this a mover? >> absolutely. >> is this going to move

workers? >> absolutely. it's part of a package. what kind of economy do we want? do we want an economy that works for working families or one that only works for the top 1% but it's you can't have a demand curve if pay isn't going up. the minimum wage is the floor we all walk on. we need bargaining rights and nrlb that works and trade policy. that package restores confidence, restores the consumer and builds our economy again. >> what do you say to the gentleman running for the senate seat in north carolina? he subscribes to the theory that minimum wage increase is a job killer. your response? >> it's 19th century capitalism. it's people who believe that there is some invisible hand. adam smith from the 19th century that invisible hand is the only regulator we need and what working families know and what we have known for 100 years is if we live it to the invisible

hand there is no chance for any of us. we need regulations you need minimums in. and a decent trade policy. and we can see the economy revive again. but the idea is all you need is business to make the decisions on their own to maximize profits, that's a race to the bottom around the world. >> well the federal number is $10.10 an hour. they say leave it up to the states. what do you say? >> i say that $10.10 is a minimum. we see l.a. moving to $15 an hour. we see germany with $11.60. we need minimum wages to stimulate the economy and create justice for working families. >> larry cowen, communications of america, give us an idea of

what your union is doing for this mid-term. your workers are out pounding the pavement doing the social networking, knocking on the doors. are you confident that the turnout is going to be better than what the experts are predicting? >> i think the turnout momentum is climbing. i think in our case we are stimulating more volunteers than eve ever based on the words of the republicans. when they introduce a bill to gut the national labor relations board. that means we have to be fired up and be out there and in break rooms talking to our members, on the phones at night and make it clear what this election is about. it's about what kind of economy do we want? one for working families or where we pretend that that invisible hand will take care of all of it? >> larry cohen great to have you on "the ed show."

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rights era poll tax. >> the law discriminates against hispanics and african-americans. >> lawmaker said it could have disenfranced 300,000 voters. >> joining me tonight, lena taylor. good to have you with us tonight. i can sense there is a real sigh of relief across the badger state tonight because your state seemed to have some of the most restrictive voter i.d. laws on the books that would have effected this election. what does this mean right now and how does it effect the vote as you see it? good to have you with us, lena. >> it's great to be with you, ed. and i'm smiling because i'm excited. the u.s. supreme court, frankly, gave a victory, not just for wisconsinites but for america because it says that we still respect the fact that people have the right to vote and that we're not going back to the times of jim crow and poll taxes

and pull putting up hurdles that will effect minorities when day go to vote. so for my perspective it's a victory. for everyone it feels like an ezeki ezekial gillispie moment. he was a man in 1865 who tried to vote in milwaukee and they denied him the right. and he pseudoall the way to the wisconsin supreme court and won unanimously in 1866. it feels like that kind of victory. but it wasn't our supreme court but the u.s. supreme court. good day. >> isn't this a real validation that a conservative supreme court and they are conservative. they have made conservative rulings. you have started it out with alito and the rest of the crowd. >> that's correct. >> isn't this a validation that the right wing has overreached in many states and that there truly has been -- this is an

admission of a voter suppression effort unlike anything we have seen in american history? >> we know it's a synchronized effort. we know it has had a negative effect. there are results now that show the places where they have been implemented even more recently have had negative effects on minority voting. it is a true victory for america. i think is it a conservative supreme court saying there has been an overreach. the republicans strategy or the effects or outcomes of the policies have always shown extremism. including their overreach with women. you know, their overreach even with education and many would say trying to destroy public education. there are many challenges that come with extreme policies. i can especially speak for governor walker, including one commercial where he says he is a friend of women when he knows he

has made it where women have not only not be able to support or fight for their right for equal pay but in addition to that, overreaching in choosing what should happen to us in our bodies. and requiring us to have people who are not even certified, medical individuals, to do ultrasounds and probes on women. that's inappropriate. and he says he's trying to create safety. so this is a time where you see their overreach, ed. and i think it's a true victory that the supreme court has ruled it was too much in order to be implementing this law when you know the ballots had already gone out and the district court in texas is a victory for america. >> senator, it seemed like the voter i.d. laws in wisconsin were set up to attack madison and the university of wisconsin because there is a big liberal turnout in that city. it would have hit the young

demographic and made it a hassle for young people to vote and hit your area of milwaukee with the economically challenged minority communities. >> yes. >> is this a game changer? i honestly thought -- >> it is. >> -- if this law was going to stand i didn't know how walker was going lose. i thought he was going to walk back in again. it's going to be a close race. but it would seem to me that mary burkwood would have had a hard time to win if this law has not been turned of. what do you think? >> i think we are no ways tired and we're fighting and people are doing everything to get individuals connected to get i.d.s. but there are many challenges that people have because of that. i think it's a game changer even though the republicans and governor walker did implement about 30 bills to chip away on the voting -- the number of

votes that we would otherwise have. they're trying to chip away in every way they can. and they talked about strategies they were going to do to -- discourage people from coming to vote by saying they were going to be looking for people with warrants and looking for people who owe their tax. they have tried many different things. but this is a victory for america and wisconsinites. we're talking about like ezekial gillispie for our right to vote. mary burkwood is winning in this race and gaining ground except for the moment when he tried to make her seem dishonest about a jobs plan. a contractor did not do her wording the way he should. but psychologic walker is looking for ideas somewhere. he is running scared and if he isn't, he should be. people are tired of him. this is a game changer because it is motivating. someone was in a movie theater

last night and everybody cheered because my chief of staff said, the supreme court, the u.s. supreme court overturned voter i.d. and the whole theater roared with cheers and saying they were excited. that's been the talk on facebook. that's the talk in the community. the energy is there. people are going to come out to vote and i'm looking forward to a new attorney general and a new governor. >> state senator lena taylor still fired up and ready to go. thanks for being on the program. coming up, role models, two senators with opposing views on climate change working together. they join me coming up on "the ed show." the cast have outnumbered insults the intelligence of the entire voting block. i'm taking your questions next, ask ed live. we're right back. all the green ?

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welcome back to "the ed show." appreciate all the questions. we have three for you tonight from our viewers in our ask ed live segment. the first question from cordell. he wanted to know what's your favorite television series so far this season? well it hasn't started yet but we enjoyed the last two seasons of "vikings." now you're going to think i'm a real homer. okay? but i'm hook on "blacklist" the nbc show plays 10:00 on monday night 10:00 eastern. i think spader is a phenomenal actor. i think the acting in that show is very good. i like the plot. so i like "blacklist" but there's another one. "chicago p.d." i like that sarge. he loves chicago. he is a chicago guy and that comes through. he wants to do something for that town. and i like the team, the way they operate.

so "chicago p.d." and "blacklist" from jimmy, what do you think of allison grimes who is running for senate in kentucky refusing to say whether she voted for president obama? well if she's refusing to say she voted for president obama that means that she did vote for him. and there's no shame. i mean, that doesn't mean that she's going to change her views on certain issues. that does not mean that she isn't going to be able to represent the people of kentucky. i think she would do better than mitch mcconnell. i don't think it would hurt her if she said she voted for president obama. but she made a judgment call and that's the way it stands. next question from sharon. how do you stay motivated when things aren't looking promising? i assume you are talking about

the upcoming election. i'm fortunate. i get to go to the middle of the country and broadcast some of our shows in minnesota. i can tell you that there is an energy out there. and when you're going to work every day and you see the same people or you're in the same routine you might not feel that energy. but i'm here to tell you that i don't believe all this talk about low voter turnout. i think it's going to be a heck of an election and a game changer. that's how i feel. stick around, rapid response panel is next here on "the ed show." stocks end the week with another triple digit decline. the dow drops 115 points and negative for the year. the s&p is off 22. the nasdaq is sliding 102 points.

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welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. we all know that republicans are fixated on take control of the united states senate. if they succeed there will be consequences to the middle class and gobble environment. >> our party says we want to create more domestic energy, allow for drilling in this country to make us energy

independent. the other side says no to expansion of our energy policies. >> we could immediately do things to give the economy a shot in the arm. the keystone pipeline would happen in a couple of weeks. 42,000 new jobs. >> that is false. building the keystone xl pipeline is top on the list for republicans if they get the house and the senate. if it's constructed the pipeline will carry one of the world's most dirt where fuels across the aquifer in the middle of the country from alberta to texas it it could pollute water sources and jeopardize people's health and these 42,000 jobs that the senator is talking about are all temporary. they may be 18 months at best. republicans it sure seems they are in denial and don't care about the climate or jobs.

democrats are trying to make a positive impact on climate change. it is serious. two senators who have very different perspectives on the climate issue are work together to learn more. senator joe mansion of west virginia and sheldon whitehouse of rhode island are visiting each other's states. this is good. the senators want to find some common ground moving forward. they join us tonight. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. senator whitehouse, you first. there are absolutes in climate change. there's no question about it. so what is the mission between you and senator mansion here as you see it? what can be gained here? >> well one of the absolutes is right behind me and that is what is happening to the oceans. you never see the deniers

talking about the oceans. they are always talking about a computer model of the matter. the oceans you measure their temperature with a thermometer and you measure them with a yardstick and litmus paper. senator manchin has come to rhode island to take a look. we have been out on the ocean and on the coastline and seeing where houses are washed into the seas and he is in a position to go back and say to colleagues from fossil fuel states and say he's not making this stuff up. this is happening in his state. this is real people with real problems. there is a lot going on. we've got to work on this. and joe is not a denier. he understands there are real issues that we need to support the coal industry as it transitions but that makes him

an important person as we move this conversation into a practical legislative level. >> no doubt. senator manchin, what you have seen in the northern portion of the united states, will that work in west virginia? can it work? >> well, ed, here's the thing, i'm not a denier and i don't think people in west virginia or other energy producing states are deniers. we know there is a climate problem. and 7 billion people on planet earth are responsible. but also in the united states of america we want to be energy secured. we don't want to depend on foreign oil and fight wars in different parts of the world. that has not been very good for us, let's put it that way. so many lives have been lost and treasure spent that should be here. we need an energy policy. as sheldon said i'm not a denier, nor is he a denier. he understands and we hope the environmental community understands we will be using fossil for some time in the

future. can't we work together to find technology to use it much cleaner. the united states government has been setting on $8 billion that we could be investing in clean coal technology and clean up the global climate, if you will, by having the technology that other countries should be using in a much cleaner fashion. we're trying to find a compromise and balance. >> do you admit -- >> i don't believe there is clean coal but it's i believe there are things we can do with carbon dioxide that is emitted. there is algae that turns it into valuable products. we want to work together on those. >> and the president said in his last state of the union that we have cleaned up in america cleaned up the environment more than 80% in the last 20 years.

many so ever in history. with that being said we have done sox and knocks and mercury. we have to take off clear stream co-2 and an algae growth you can use co-2 to create value-added products rather than put in the ground. we are trying to find that next technology and you can use coal cleaner. you can use it in a cleaner fashion and that's what we're trying to do. we're going to be using it. we need it. the rest of the world's going to use it. >> i understand that -- coal. having worked in the dakotas and minnesota, the coal-fired plants up here turn the lights on in 16 states all throughout the midwest. but is it dirty technology and they have spent a lot of money in scrubber technology. i get all of that. but as we move forward especially your state, senator

manchin you cannot look at coal and not look at jobs. any reduction in coal could mean a reduction in the work force. how does that balance out with your constituents in west virginia? >> well, jobs is the driving force for all of us. you know, i keep believing, ed, there's a balance between the economy and the environment. can't we work together? you have people that say it's one or the other. i don't believe that whatsoever. with that being said we've been blessed with utica and marcellus shale which is a boom for our state and basically the coal is going to be needed to provide 30% of the energy up through 2040. we want the government and epa to work with us to provide that versus eliminating something that is going to be needed. we'll accept the new technology. we want new technology.

>> rhode island wants lower carbon levels so our own coasts are not beaten away and our fishermen can catch the fish their fathers caught before them. >> can we afford to continue to use coal all the way to 2040? i mean, do we have to move faster than that? >> i think we've got to move with real urgency with every technology we have at our disposal. and where joe's agreement with me is the strongest is that there is technology that can help reduce the carbon pollution that coal provides. and that is a common goal that we ought to be getting behind and money we should spend doing that. and technologies we should accelerate doing that. some are in my state and some in joe's state. but this is something we have to go hard on. >> but you can't jeopardize the reliability of the grid system. people are relying on the

system. the most vulnerable are the elderly and the poor. we want to keep the system affordable, dependable and reliable and working in a balance between the economy and environment and i'm telling you we can do it. >> so when is the trip to west virginia for both of you gentlemen? >> we've got that about three weeks from now? >> about three weeks. we have a good tour for him. we have more wind farms east of the mississippi than any other state. >> i want to go. >> i took him out on a fishing boat. >> come with us, ed. >> and we went trawling. we pulled the fish up with a trawl. he was like a sailor out there. >> and we want you to come to the coal mine and the coal plant, a wind farm. a hydro. we'll do it all. >> i appreciate it. senators thanks for working together on this. sheldon whitehouse and joe

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and in pretenders tonight, our friends on the second string kirby couch. this week the host talked about the low expectation for youth voter turn-out. >> somebody's got to do something, because young people are not voting. 2012, 45% of young people 18 to 29 actually cast a ballot. that was 20% below the national average. >> it's true, even though millenials have the potential to become the largest voting bloc in the country, many do choose to sit out elections. youth participation in the mid terms is usually low. so we should be encouraging young voters to get the polls, don't you think? >> we talked about a poll the other day. it says they're disinterested in these midterm elections.

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welcome back to "the ed show." finally tonight, it's been two months since michael brown was shot and killed by police officer darren wilson. wilson has not been charged in the shooting. however hundreds of protesters have been arrested for minor offenses. since the august 9th shooting, there's a breakdown of trust with law enforcement and tension has risen in the community. it remains very high this night. now the st. louis area is bracing for another round of mass protests. it's being called the weekend of resistance. more than 6,000 people are expected to participate in marches in the st. louis area and in ferguson. actions of civil disobedience are expected on monday. organizers are calling for people to remain peaceful, but

fuel was added to the fire on wednesday when a 32-year-old police officer shot an 18-year-old. police say myers pulled a gun and shot at the officer. on sunday, a coalition of speakers will gather for a mass meeting, hoping to foster dialogue within the community. my next guest is scheduled to be one of those speakers this weekend. joining me tonight is reverend jim wallace. good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time on this very important topic. simmering the tensions is going to be the mission here. what do you hope to accomplish on sunday, reverend? >> the local clergy in ferguson that have played a very pastoral role, for two months, 60 days of stress and tension when an unarmed black man has shot by a white police officer and there's been no real response from

ferguson, from law enforcement. so it's a parable. ferguson is a parable. where a criminal justice system doesn't treat young black men the way it treats young white men. so we have to go there and talk about how to heal a broken criminal justice system. we'll be in the streets to pray. healing has to come by telling the truth and fixing what's gone wrong. we have to fix that system and change this reality that young black lives can't be worth less than young white lives. we have to change that and right this wrong. it's not just ferguson, but all over the country, as you know. >> but reverend, as a man of the cloth, do you feel a deep responsibility to make sure that the protests are non-violent -- >> of course.

>> -- and when there's talk of civil disobedience, what role does that put you in? >> as you know, there's a long tradition of peaceful non-violent civil disobedience. dr. king was a mentor of mine. and sometimes that kind of action brings light and attention to something that's wrong, but in a very peaceful way. you have to work on all sides. the clergy's talking to the police, talking to the protesters, to law enforcement. clergy have to talk about the stress on all sides. it's a very stressful situation now. how to bring people together. local clergy have provided a leadership role there that we admire a great deal from the outside. we're going to try to be helpful to them as much as we can. but this is a parable that has to change time, has to change the system here, to bring peace we have to deal with what's wrong and fix it. we'll go in, in a peaceful way to support the local leaders,

their leadership, and try and change it. >> okay, reverend, i appreciate your time tonight. it's a heavy lift, no doubt. the tensions are very high in the ferguson and st. louis area on that. going to take a lot of prayers and understanding to make it right before the criminal justice system gets fixed with black americans in this country. no doubt. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, how democrats can win by standing with president obama. we're now less than a month from the midterm elections. in kentucky, democratic challenger alison lundergan grimes is taking on gop senator mitch mcconnell. it's a tough race in a red state. and grimes made headlines when