♪ i am alex wagner coming to live from the pasadena civic auditorium "after the almas" awards. >> welcome to the 2014 nclr alma awards. it. >> tonight, the biggest names in the hispanic community come together for the 2014 alma awards, a celebration of american latino achievement in music, television and film. >> latinos are in the house! >> the focus tonight is on

heritage and diversity. >> our talent is growing. >> it will be a beautiful celebration. >> you have to get out there and vote. >> this hour, evil longoria and stars of "orange is the new black" will join me to discuss their impact and their hopes for the next generation of americans. msnbc's live coverage, "after the almas," starts right now. >> tonight, guillermo del toro, recording artist, pitbull, and cast members of orange is a new black received, awards for their achievements and entertainment. the almas are more than just an award show. national hispanic heritage month, the almas are part of a broader mission to give families in the united states greater opportunities. while 2014 has put some major challenges in the spotlight,

tonight serves as a reminder that even when faced with discrimination or political inaction on issues that matter most, american latinos have helped shape our history and culture for the better. joining me now is president and ceo of the national council of la raza, janet murguia, and host, a jose diaz-balart. >> let's start with what just happened. that was an incredibly fun, positive show highlighting the myriad contributions of latinos and hispanic americans to arts and cultures. >> that has been the heart of the mission for the almas for over 15 years. i remember when nclr did a report 70 musical called out of the picture, and latinos were not just being presented in ways that we could see ourselves. today was a celebration of

progress and unity and strength and really a great celebration of what we have given back to this great country, and we are celebrating ourselves. >> jose, on that note, it is a time for celebration, by no means a wet towel here. we have talked a lot on msnbc, and janet, you work actively in a really important, critical way, on the issues facing hispanic americans. do you think there is a sense that the next generation will be better off than the current generation? >> very good question. i'm not sure that many feel that the future necessarily is going to be better. if there is something that latinos exemplify, its optimism. optimism in the future. that is why i think, alex, what gentler get and the national council of la raza have been doing here with the alma award is celebrating not the bathing

suit competition and an external beauty of people. >> although there are very beautiful people. >> yes, there are. >> i was ready to go in a bathing suit. >> thanks. >> thanks, but no thanks. one of the things that is extraordinary is that it is celebrating people's internal beauty. its about recognizing people who are making their own legacy. we are everywhere. latinos are everywhere in every city and town. >> you follow politics. demographics is destiny is often used there. we could see the same is true in hollywood. >> absolutely. >> there are people seeing that the country is changing, numbers are changing. they're not only need to be opportunities, but they ought to welcome those opportunities. whether it's the viewership front or taller ship, we are creating more opportunities. >> on that level, in terms of

media and hollywood, what challenges are the biggest? jose, when we talk about hispanics and latinos, that is not a monolithic voting block or culture. we are talking about cubans, dominicans, mexicans. each group has different things to say. >> you know what, that unity that we saw tonight is what we are celebrating. that is what has given us a sense of resiliency and a bond, i think, because we are not the same, but we have common bonds. we are able to see that in celebrations like tonight. the fact that we do feel unified and connected despite being very different, i think, is something we ought to take note of. we can leverage that in hollywood and politics. >> when we speak spanish, we have different accents. we have different concepts of what countries we came from. it has just thinking about our

reality. we sure something in common, the love of our family and determination to make a difference and to be united on issues which affect all of us, because even if something doesn't directly affect our family -- on so many other issues. >> we feel a connections to roots in terms of parent, grandparent, ancestors, this is a very american community. >> do you think they feel as rooted in this sort of american identity? >> not only routed, but we celebrated tonight was the 40s for the congressional medal of honor, the service that our communities has provided is something that gets overlooked. we want to make sure folks understand that we are americans and we really have an investment in the future of this country, and we certainly have been a part of its great history. >> i thought that was incredibly moving moment when we talk about

the service numbers of hispanic heritage. jose, when we talk about who has built this great country, it's not just happening now and in the future as far as the economic power, but also in the past and dna. >> also people who have shed their blood. go to the vietnam war memorial, you can see the names. it's not just the vietnam war, in florence, italy, last year i saw a cemetery of young american kids who died in that area liberating italy. the names are also gonzalez and ramirez. it's not new. it's part of the fabric of this country. >> the need for more progress, it would be nice to see more and more of those stories told a television and film or seen more of those opportunities for our community. it's happening more and more, but i think it's fair to say there is room for progress. but today, there is a show that

debuted, led by a latina actress. another one, we are seeing a very high moment right now. honestly, there is more room for progress here. >> you know where you can see it a lot, jose diaz the lark, 7:00 a.m. pacific. >> crown jewel. >> great opportunity for us. >> one of the things you did early on, you had a bilingual broadcast. that was genre breaking. >> what's funny, sorry to interrupt you, but it's not that revolutionary because we are used to that occurred our households are like that, telemundo. >> america is like that. >> our young population actually live with a foot in both worlds, if you will. we have seen on the nclr polling that they are very comfortable being by cultural and bilingual. it is everyone else that freaks

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welcome back to "after the almas" on msnbc. one big change from when we were here in pasadena last year, in early 2014, california became a plurality hispanic state. according to the chief demographer, hispanics make up the larger share of california's population. there are more than 50 million hispanics in the united states. hispanic population has

increased six-fold since 1970. that is evident in the american culture, as we saw tonight with the alma award, and also in congress, which has a record number of hispanic voting members, 31 in the house, four in the senate. the future is bright parents to with me is janet murguia from the national council of la raza, and joining me now is the host of extra and co-host of the alma award, birthday boy, mario lopez an actor, co-host and executive producer of the alma award, eva longoria. i want that project to win on every count. >> so do we. >> i have to ask you, one of the producers quoted nelson mandela who said at one point famously, may your choices reflect your hopes and not your fears. i wonder if someone who is involved in latino participation, you think the choices they are making at this

moment are based in hope or in fear? >> it depends what choices you are talking about and what election cycle. >> november. >> now? >> yes. >> no, i think they are one of the most hopeful communities and our nation. we believe in this american dream. we believe in the process of our government. i think when you have midterm elections like we are doing now, you can kind of sometimes see people having a disillusionment because there's so much good luck in congress. not so much fear as frustration. the more you are frustrated is the more reason you have to vote. i have spoken to so many hispanics who are disappointed in immigration reform not getting past. no matter how you want that past. i say, go show your disappointment, don't sit back and have apathy.

make that energize you. i do think that latinos operate from hope. >> mario, with so much in politics, culture can move the needle and drive the conversation forward. do you think that culture has done a good job in terms of making progress on issues that latinos care about? >> especially with a community like ours, where we are a loyal folk. when you have someone who sets a certain precedents or can really rally behind the people and speak for them, i think that can be extremely powerful. the numbers show, and it will continue to grow and get better. >> janet, let me ask you, you know about politics. i want to get your thoughts on this too. what has happened in the last year? the conversations around immigration reform, inaction, grid lock in congress. can that benefit people in favor of reform because people get so

frustrated and one party seems much more willing to change than the other. does that work in favor of driving people? >> yes, that frustration is being turned into action. a lot of voter education is being done right now. i know a lot of organizations like nclr are registering voters. we registered 100,000 new latino voters just in this year, but that's on top of 400,000 we have done since 2010. the important part of that, those dollar education, making sure folks are informed about where candidates stand on the issues. we know latinos care about the economy and jobs, they do care about immigration, and the care about health and education. as long as we are engaged as a community, we have to create that culture of engagement. our community is increasingly showing that we will be a difference, not just in

presidential elections, but in midterm elections, state elections and local elections. we are understanding that the fact is that if we are frustrated, we need to act. we don't need to set on the sidelines. >> a good example of this, a great example of latinos getting frustrated is in arizona with the governor's race. i did not realize how close it was going to be with jim brewer and the democratic challenger neck and neck. that makes me so happy that so many people are so fired up the matter what side you are on of immigration or whether you are republican or democrat. there is more participation in that state, and it's a hot buttons state. >> even these midterms are going to be so close at that in states like north carolina and even in kansas, my home state, the latino percentage is 10%, but we are 5.5% of the electorate. the election comes within one or

two percentage points, it could be the latino vote that makes a difference. >> essentially what jim is saying is that latinos care about issues that all americans care about. both parties will try to woo this community and try to entice them to vote for them. >> that is a very important part. i wonder if you think sometimes we focused too much on the question of immigration. all hispanics, all they care about immigration reform. >> that's what i love doing the alma award. i'm glad we had a partnership with ancillary to do at the awards. we have to remind people that latinos is not synonymous with immigrant. we do these alma words to say we are so much more. >> conversely, emigration is not

just an latino issue. >> canadian. >> canadian issue. do you think young hispanics are engaged? we talked about different cycles of generations. i am not a millennial, sadly. >> come on now. >> in terms of fostering another generation of political activists, grassroots organizers, leaders who will one day be a majority in the senate and house, do you think that is happening? >> i think so, and i think it continues to grow and get better. this is the first time in a long time that i have talked to young people wanting to get more in touch with their roots. it's important for them to know their native language. they want to go back and study spanish if it wasn't taught to them. being a child of immigrants, you had to speak english, which obviously is what i did.

the idea has completely changed. now i see them being so much more in touch with their culture and their origin. they realize the value in it. i do think it's headed in the right direction. >> perfect segue, mario. >> he's a professional. >> keith: he does this for a living parity bring up a really good point. we have some twitter questions for you. dan marin tweets this, i fear the impact of speak english, especially when kids mistake it for actual spanish. what is your opinion on that and its future? >> i am a fan. >> i am too. >> i am a fan of -- i speak french. i think the effort and the attempt to learn another language is honorable and commendable because we live in a global community. this isn't just about spanish.

i would love to learn chinese. i have a fascination. i have a fascination with connecting globally because i travel so much and love to know cultures and speak different languages. i think it just -- it it's kind of an economic benefit now in work places. not just speaking spanish. if you speak any other languages. europeans, most of them speak to mac or three language's because they are on top of each other. france touches spain. you have to speak other languages to navigate europe. now that we are globally tied to each other, it's just smarter to learn other languages, and it's fun. >> yeah, i love -- >> back to the question, it's always my attempt to -- i will be like. [ speaking spanish ] hamburger. you speak too. >> my parents spoke nothing but spanish, but like i said, they

made a point for me to try to distinguish. my father is not a fan of it, because he is old school. >> it's a generational. >> eva happens to be from in texas, you have a lot of latinos that are nine generations. it's a different mentality. at the end of the day, the fact you are making an effort to embrace the language at all, i think, is wonderful. even if it's in small increments, hopefully you'll get encouraged to learn more. >> what is your opinion? >> the fact of the matter is, everybody recognizes that to succeed we need to know english. people do speak english. we see statistics show that our folks are losing spanish after the first generation. one of the other things, as an organization that has many affiliate's, we have over demand for people who want to learn

english and provide english classes, but there are the lot of resources for us to be able to provide all the classes that we would like because they are oversubscribed. people understand it's important. do you stop there? why not be a multilingual generation when we see the world bringing us closer together? when you are able to master more than one language, we will be able to succeed as a country, and it will help us, i think, from an economic standpoint and international foreign policy standpoint. >> the benefits are myriad. one more from may get who askeds, what you think about the dreamers who are asking people to boycott the vote? >> boycott the vote? that is a horrible idea. like i said before, the more frustrated you are, the more reason you'll have to vote.

that is common sense. i don't let comments like that. it's very dangerous. >> very dangerous. >> it's a very dangerous thing to say. do you think young people-coat young latinos are engaged, i think young people are in general. as the younger generations happen to be predominantly diverse, whether it's latino, asian, the day. >> transgendered. >> they are just more tolerant of changes and more aware of issues because of social media and the viral methods of news that they get. i get my news from twitter, about this happened. i think it's very dangerous, especially when it goes out vitally like that. >> my last question, when will we see the lopez/longoria ticket? >> tonight. >> there was 80s tonight. do we get your vote?

>> you got it already. the minute you walk on. pleasure to see you guys. thank you for joining me and taking time out of your birthday evening. >> happy birthday, mario. >> eva longoria and mario lopez, thinking very much. janet, hang with me. coming up, the alma award winner, narciso rodriguez. >> is he here? >> i was aware of my role but not until i received that alma, how extensively my work had touched people's lives. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so.

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fashion designer whose parents try to convince him to be a lawyer or a doctor or a dentist or something like that, and i'm sure that i speak for all women when i say that i am grateful that narciso chose another path. >> on september 30th, first lady michelle obama honored cuban-american fashion designer, narciso rodriguez in a white house luncheon for the recipients of smithsonian's national design awards. i sat down with rodriguez, 82008 alma award recipient to discuss his incredible career. >> your parents came here from cuba. i wonder how that piece of your biography has influence your work as a designer. >> well, i have always thought

of microsoft your and my life very enriched by my cuban routes. i have watched my mom so and create things. i watched my dad buildings. everybody in my family cut hair or was a barber. they did something, great work ethic. the influence on my life and career in such a profound well. >> no one but narciso has ever made a simple line look more stunning. that spirit of design, not a lot of people associate that with the stereotypes of the latin world. i think incorrectly its associated with more flair and the core. i wonder if in any way the style of work that you do is a reaction to that, or is it

informed by what some folks may think of as traditional latin design? >> i try to avoid stereotypes, and i think people have preconceived notions that things -- all things of latin should be read and ruffled and ornate. i love that stuff. i grew up around that stuff. i think it's part of the culture, but not necessarily part of my design a static or the things that i like to focus on. i am very into a clean line and the design of things. >> you famously designed carolyn beset's wedding dress, michelle obama's dress for election night in 2008. you exist at this intersection of culture and politics, in a way. of course fashion.

i wonder what you think about that and whether this is just sort of happening, or if you saw this out at all. >> you can plan your career, and things happen as follows. things can be really wonderful. to be able to make carolyn's wedding dress, she was someone who i loved very much. she was a very close friend. to be a part of that moment in someone who you are close to, that special day was certainly a great deal to me personally. professionally, it brought so much attention to the work that i was doing at the time. when the first lady chose to wear the address that she chose to wear on election night and to

have that kind of reaction from people loved it, people hated it, people were outraged it was so bold. it started a different kind of a conversation about what a first lady should wear. it said so much about her and her choices and how strong a choice it was and how great a choice it was to make that kind of a statement on such an important night. >> what or whom do you find inspiring? >> for me, my inspiration is the streets of new york. i dread everyone crazy because between home and the office, i can encounter so many things and have taken so many pictures and videos that i need to share with everyone to tell them what i saw. it's that kind of thing that is personally inspiring, not

necessarily very entertaining for anyone else. >> your office is like, please take a taxi. we are busy. >> i just love taking pictures of all the things i see on the streets of new york that are so random and also so inspiring. >> you were recognized at the almas in 2008 for special achievement in fashion. you had many, many awards. the almas is a very different and specific one. how did that make you feel? >> for me to be acknowledged with the alma award was very special for me. it was the first time that i felt that i had made a difference to the younger latin generation. so many notes and letters from young designers and artists, people who reached out and said,

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harsh prison sentencing disproportionately affect people of color in america and gives rise to a vicious cycle. instead of rehabilitating offenders commit it creates lifelong criminals. members from the present policy initiative show that black americans are the most incarcerated ethnic group. 2200 jailed for every one hundred thousand in the african-american community. for latinos, that number is 966 for every one hundred thousand. when americans, just 380. after years of calls from advocates and add activists, they may be getting the message. just this year we saw a bipartisan call for reform to

the most diametrically opposed members, cory booker and rand call. as with so much in politics, a huge driver of reform continues to the culture. joining me now are selenis leyva and daschel polanco, both brilliant actors from the hit netflix series, "orange is the new black." i am so excited to see you guys. so is everyone else. i was telling you guys this before we started the segment, it's rare that a show is really important to american society and also really great television. thank you for doing it. let's talk about the issue of prison, women in prison. selenis, i will start with you. knowing that told that incarceration takes on the latino community. how did that inform your thinking about this role and the way you prepare for it. >> i knew i had a huge responsibility that this show was going to be bigger and more

than just entertainment. we were going to start shutting the light on an issue that has been ignored. especially women, women in prison, prisoners in general. women in prison is something that has just opened my eyes to how we are feeling. we are feeling as a society. we are failing our young, you know, children coming up. we are failing, so we need to talk about how we are going to make sure that once you do your time you come out. you can be a responsible, working. >> and respected. >> and respected citizen. there is a lot of work that needs to be ahead. "orange is the new black" is entertaining but also shedding light on this issue. >> what kind of feedback have you gotten from audience members or women in prison? i'm sure this is a really resident series for them too.

>> we have attended and had many conversations with women who have been prior prisoners, but what i am getting is, are you playing stereotypes, is this real, are you guys contributing to society by doing this? we are actors, entertainers and bringing issues to light. this is how we tend to receive the information. it's surprising how many people can relate, how many people have individuals in prison and say this is so real. >> do you feel a responsibility to those people who know people, have 5 members in prison or have been in prison themselves? >> it's hard. you are an actor. i have to portray what is given to me as an actor. as a human being, as the shell, as a woman, we have to contribute more and give each

other understanding, provide help to one another. there is a lot of mental issues that we sweep under the rug and not pay attention to. when we have women in prison that don't have the assistance and have the emotional in balance, i think we are not succeeding by judging and banning. >> blocking people out and throwing away the key. >> have you prepare for this? did you talk to women who had been in prison? how you get into a role like this? >> i took this roll on like any other. you try to be as truthful and honest as you can to this character with no judgment, but i worked in an educational theater group years ago where we would go to prisons, and we would go to judy halls, and we would work with the prisoners and create plays and scenes. i got to go into the prison

system. i remember there was exhausting and heartbreaking because there were so many wonderful people behind bars, wonderful, smart people behind bars. some of them were there for big crimes, but most of them were there for very misdemeanors and small crimes. there is something to be said for that in this country, how many people we have behind bars for what reasons, you know what i mean? there is a lot of dissecting and work to be done. >> i would also say a huge part of what you are doing is reminding america that these people are humans. they are people with brothers and husbands and children and stories. that is a really important thing, just the humanizing. do you ever feel the weight of that when you are working on a series? >> it's with -- when we are on

set, for me, it's a moment when it hits you that these women have no freedom of choice. they are confined. it's all negative. it's more taking away, and i get it. they committed crimes, yes, but there is an understanding. that is what "orange is the new black" portrays. there are layers. we don't disco out there and do it to do it. >> there's desperation. there's lack of education also. >> it's a cycle. it's learned behavior. >> generational. >> that's what needs to be broken. >> you guys know about this issue, what it's like to be in jail. what is the biggest misconception people have about time in prison? >> that everyone there is evil, everyone is mean, should be there. a lot of people behind bars should not be incarcerated. a lot of people should be getting medical assistance.

there are a lot of people behind bars that should not be behind bars. we have this idea that everyone deserves to be. >> and should be punished for the rest of their lives, which is another part, getting rid of the stigma. you served your time, you served your time. >> exactly. >> awesome show. how meaningful it is for all of us, but especially those concerned about incarceration and what we are doing. it's very important. thank you. >> we are glad that we can contribute. >> congratulations on your award this evening. >> thank you. >> thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, the dream deferred. what is next for the nearly 12 million undocumented immigrants in america? i will speak with killed as police coming up next. >> when i came here to america in the beginning of the 90s, it

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phrase, undocumented immigrant, during an election year. the real-life problems go ignored. fear of deportation is one part of being an undocumented immigrant, but so is being invisible to mainstream america, especially when u.s. attitudes appear to be distressingly intolerance. a reuters poll shows that 70% of americans, including 86% of republicans believe that undocumented immigrants threaten traditional u.s. beliefs and customs. we have hilda solis with us. let's talk about the notion that so many americans have a fear of what undocumented immigrants may do to u.s. traditions. at the same time, undocumented workers are among those most

targeted for wage theft, discriminatory hiring practices, workplace abuses. how do we reconcile these 2 halves of american society, those living in the shadows that face the unjust landscape and those that are terrified or angry or have a lot of fear when thinking about undocumented immigrants? >> this country has tolerated people that have been able to come here and work without legalization or papers. this is the tradition of our culture. going way back to the pilgrims and way back when, even people who served in the military, not all of them had documentation, but they fought for the same values and principles. we have a lot of latinos and a strong 55 million population. there are many people that still remain in the shadows. if we can't bring them in and lose revenue, because if we cannot provide a tax base, to say they can pay into the tax base, we are losing revenue.

we have to bring them out of the shadows and allow for legalization, which was proposed in the senate but was stuck. we need to reform the process and give people the chance to legalize. it's not fair to break families apart right now, those that are one foot in and one foot out. there are many people. this is a big misconception. many people have overstayed their visas coming from asia pacific islands, other places around the world. we are really naive about knowing what the facts are in terms of who that undocumented population is. >> jose and janet, what do you think accounts for that fear? a recession does a lot to split people up on economic and class lines, but what else could be contributing to numbers that high? >> it's hard to say. jose has been on this issue for a long time, but one of the things that we think is that it's a failure for people to be

educated about the fact that when and if we can have immigration reform on a comprehensive level, we will do more to help improve the economic opportunities for everyone because we will be leveling the playing field. right now you have this shadow economy where some people are able to be taken advantage of and depress wages. if we are able to have comprehensive immigration reform, we will bring folks out of the shadows coming into the light, and that will, i think, help level the playing field and provide for more economic opportunity. there is a fundamental understanding of exactly how that works. >> the fact of the matter is that both political parties have at one time or another play political ping-pong with the issue of immigration. folks, honest, hard-working folks get confused about what it is we are dealing with. the undocumented population of 11 or 12 million people are not

people you should be fearing. they are contributing to the economy and many of them have kids and grandchildren board in this country. sometimes you feel we are living in two worlds, the world a people who contribute and work and want to stay and others who fear what they don't understand. >> i do think that the fast change of the demographics in this country is unsettling for everyone. >> and we talk about that since 1970 there has been a six-fold increase of the number of hispanics in america. >> 50,000 u.s.-born hispanics turn 18 years of age every month in this country. >> that is important. the fact is, the vast majority of hispanics are u.s. citizens. under the age of 18, its 95% of those individuals who are latinos that are u.s. citizens. >> in terms of what you would -- to someone who has been in

government and is in state or city governments, what would you like to see happen? practically speaking, what is going to happen? >> i would hope that the president does take action so that we can bring people for word, that they can register to have a work permit, just like the dreamers students. that will raise revenue. it will also help to force people taken advantage of by the use of wage theft, by taking advantage of undocumented workers and not paying the minimum wage. all that money goes somewhere else, not into the budgets to help sustain health care, education, motor vehicles department, all the things that we need. it doesn't come into our budget. >> whatever the president does or doesn't do, it's not a long-term solution. it's a stopgap measure for one or two or three years. the house of representatives have to deal with this issue.

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