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religion is an infinitely diverse experience. and i was trained by jesuits. >> and they're the best in the entire world at reading bad stuff. >> that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow' show starts right now. >> the book was called "for the record." and even before page one of the book, in the forward of the book, the author made clear that he had tales to tell and the tales that he had to tell were going to make the president of the united states very unhappy. so in the forward of the book, he said this, the bewildered of the reader cannot be understand in his absence. i have revealed in this book what is probably if most guarded domestic secret of the white
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house. okay, may, 1988. the book was called for the record. the author of the book had been chief of staff to then-president reagan. >> astrology in the white house. president reagan and nancy reagan were not just believers, but astrological forecasting was used to determine the daily schedu schedule of ronald reagan when he was president. >> former white house chief of staff writes in his forthcoming book that president and mrs. reagan sometimes consult astrologers when making difficult decisions. chris wallace has been looking into that report. chris, what's the story? >> tom, sources tell nbc news
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that the president and mrs. reagan have consulted an astrologer several times while they're in the white house. and the changes in the president's schedule have been made based on the advice from that astrologer. according to the sources, scheduling of major events would be changed because the first family said the astrologer indicated another time would be better. the staff would go to mrs. reagan and say we can do an event on a tuesday or a wednesday and that she would come back sometime later and say don't do it on tuesday, do it on wednesday. and the sources say the president was aware that his schedule was being changed on the basis of astrological advice. >> chris, what's the official white house reaction to all of this? >> tom, a spokesman for the white house tells nbc news they have no information what so ever that the president used astrological advice. news week reported that don
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reagen was going to report this in his new book. recently, he went to the wliet house and talked to a top white house official and said this is a crazy story. and if white house official told him it isn't crazy. it e it's true. >> so there have been rumors before about the reagans consulting astrologers to make decisions. the reagans encysted that that inauguration happened at a really strange time. they said they wanted him sworn in at precisely 1210 a.m., ten minutes after my night. that decision was made to take advantage of favorable astrologic astrological partense. it broke in a huge way. the story of reagan being har
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monoized between what astrolo r astrologers were telling the first lady the president should be allowed to do and not be allowed to do, it became a really big story about the reagan white house. and part of it became a huge story because it was true. they were initially very angry that the news was out about this. but the white house? the president and the first lady did not deny the basic truth of the story. that's part of the reason it was a big deal. it was a true story. the other reason is because the man who broke the news was in a position to be so specific about it. he was able to confirm the details up to and including the fact that one of the things the reagan white house did to prepare with gorbachav in 1987 was that the white house prepared a detailed speech. >> the white house fired back at reagan.
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a spokesman denounced his book as a breech of confidence seeking to exploit the first family for personal self interest. it's come clear to me that don reidman doesn't really like me. but for all the attacks, the first lady will continue consulting an astrologer about the president's schedule. plm every major decision made during his two years was cleared first with the astrologer. reagan even did a horoscope of the soviet leader. he charges the first lady kept the president from making almost any public appearances for three months after the iran contra scandal was revealed. >> this was a big story in 1988. those are two clips from the nightly news. they were a week apart. this was kind of a big story of this part of the reagan presidency. and it was all first made public by don regan. he had been chairman of merrill lynch. he was a really big wheel in the
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business world who came to washington in 1981 after 35 years of merrill lynch in order to become ronald's secretary. and then he became the president's chief of staff. he contended that nancy reagan did not like him. if that's true, the feeling was certainly mutual. he blamed her for forcing him out as chief of staff in 1987. he was hard at work about president reagan being a dim bulb who was easily manipulated. this book about how the first lady was not just unelected, but somewhat bizarre power behind the throne there the white house. and, of course, the news about astrologers being allowed to prescribe what the president of the united states could and could not do. every major decision in the reagan white house made in consultation with astrologers. the book was published just a few months after don regan left
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as white house chief of staff. and he's not the only very high level white house source to turn against his president and write the tell-all while that president was still in office. but it was a very rare thing to do. it wasn't unheard of, but it's rare. it's still rare. it did happen when bill clinton was president. dick morris has been a republican strategist before he joined up with the democratic clinton administration. by the time he was running for re-election, dick morris had gone from being secret public advisor to being one of the most influential and high profile advisors in the clinton white house. he effectively became the senior strat gist in 1996.
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that very next week, this was the cover. after the fall. the morris mess, how it could hurt clinton. the night before that speech, dick morris, the senior strategist had to quit. dick morris was exposed to having a regular relationship. in the very specific sense of that word, with a very expensive prostitute, including letting the hooker listen in on confers that dick morris was with having
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with the president of the united states. it's not like being chased out of the white house by the president's wife who's fixated on astrology and doesn't like you. like don regan, dick morris hit the ground running after he got run out of washington. within six months, he had his tell-all book out, as well.
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so don regan maybe broke some new ground when he turned against his president, president reagan, while that president was still in office. dick morris proved he could not get away with something like that. you could turn it into the basis of a lucrative new career. specifically because that president had once trusted you and held you close. therefore, that put you in a position to know things about that president that you could later blab about for money and to advance your own aims. the latest one of these happened to president obama. it happened in the form of pinetta. it was leon pinetta as white
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house chief of staff who had to face all the questions about dick morris and the hooker. he had to face all of those questions in the press corps the day they broke up in the 1996 campaign. he's talking about president obama as a bad leader and he's made a series of bad decisions that leon pinetta would have done better. but this time around, there's something weird going on. we've seen something like this with don regan in the reagan era and dick morris in the clinton era. but this one has something going on.
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president obama is basically saying the beef from leon pinetta is that president obama is just too darn careful. leon pinetta knew better. he would have rushed right in on syria. that's what he's saying now. but here's what he said about it when he was actually defense secretary. >> it's not that easy. to deal with some of the concerns that are out there. but never the less, we're
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working at it. we are trying to engage with these other countries. there are other countries that are interested in trying to provide provisions. we are working with them. we are talking with them. and we are looking at every op p option to try to put that in place. can it happen today? can it happen now? no, it's going to take some work. it's going to take some time. but when we do it, we'll do it right. we will not do it in way that will make the situation worse. that's what we have to be careful. >> and then the same guy wrote a book about how president obama is just being too darn careful about these things. going too slow. since leaving the administration, leon pinetta, i have to tell you, has a new job. he has become senior counsel at something called beacon global strategies. the managing director and co-founder is a guy named philippe renies who has been
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part of hillary clinton's political operation in the united states senate and at the state department. philippe renies is expected to be the spokesperson once she officially starts running for president again. but, for now, pinetta has written a bookmaking the pate patented clinton charnl and he hasn't been enthusiastic enough and fantastic enough when i comes to using force. obviously,somebody like hillary clinton who would be much more hawkish would be a much better president. now that he's out, he's working for a global strategy firm. now, he's flying the same exact
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anti-obama flag that the hawkish clinton wing on the party has been flying all year now trying to position themselves for the next stage in their own political careers by stepping on president obama's neck. george zorneck at the nation has been writing about this sips he noticed that all of the same criticisms were being used on the same day using exactly the same language. his new book makes no sense if you compare it to the other positions. so this is a small thing that's happening in washington. but it gets at the biggest question of all for democratic politics right now.
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is the democratic party setting itself up as anti-obama for 2016? parties decide to do this sometimes. we see it happen over and over again, after eight years of bill clinton, the al gore campaign essentially decided to run away from bill clinton. the dmon wisdom is that the democratic party is now doing that to barack obama as well. the only sure-fire top tier candidacy is not just setting itself up, they're also drafting loyalists from the obama cabinet to do that work for them. so those punches will land with a harder blow.
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with more than two years left of the obama presidency, how self-defeating is this for democrats. why are democrats right now giving up on this presidency. the tell fence of president barack obama is coming from somewhere you would not expect. it's not coming from the democratic party and its politicians.
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obama faces trash talk and does not desempb it. he's observed as one of the most successful presidents in american history. this is what a successful presidency looks like. when all is said and done, president obama has achieved a lot. >> they call it the hope and change progress. 55 figures that prove president obama has accomplished more than you may realize. more than you may realize because the only democrats have apparently decided they would be against this because they would believe that would be their own gain and be against this president to try to help themselves than be on his side. is that an inevitable political dgsz. just in terms of pure strategy, are they right to try to do it.
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joining us now is sam stein. sam, great to see you, thanks for being here. >> is it a historical inevitability that presidents in their sixth year in office tend to be unpopular and their parties turn against them. or do democrats have a choice here? >> well, it is a historical trend where democrats or their own party, they're unpopular in their party, bill clinton in 1990 was probably an exception to the rule. i think what the president was dealing with in this case, he is unpopular for senate. but, also, you have to acknowledge that the republican play book against him has kind of worked to a tee. they've stopped any advancements since they've taken over the congress or the house in 2010.
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>> the president has decided that if senate candidates don't want me and if gubernatorial kant dats don't want me, what i'm going to do is, instead, give a lot of speeches about how much better the economy is doing than everybody thought it would. it's the same argument in this sort of remarkable cover story in rolling stone about how, listen, the economy, under president obama, is one of the greatest success stories in presidential leadership in the mod era. so there is a narrative to tell. it's weird they wouldn't want to talk about that and prefer the talk about isis and ebola.
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>> the fact of this is about how difficult it is to talk about improving the economy when you're still close to a recession. that's primarily because voters will say i don't feel it in my pocketbook or home. i feel left behind. in to 10, obama is incredibly careful abthis. >> we've had so many months of positive economic growth, job numbers, our unemployment rate is below 6%. we should celebrate this. we need to build on it, but we should celebrate it. you're starting to see some democrats take up that argument. but you're right. there's not a course here. people are still very afraid. they're worried that a lot of people still don't feel it. >> sam stein, wliet house correspondent, thanks very much.
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we've got lots more ahead tonight, including some new information that we've gotten in in the last few min you wiutes the nurse who appears to have contracted ebola in dallas. and the interview tonight is a doctor who has been successfully treated in this country. that issue about health care workers and whether or not they, themselves, are at risk and their own safety while providing life-saving care newly on the front burner. there's lots more to come. stay i with us. i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. whether you're just starting your 401(k) or you are ready for retirement, we'll help you get there.
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today, a liberal pat called the agenda project released a new ad in the key state of kentucky as well as other states. the ad is about ebola, which ought to be a hard thing to make politics about. but it essentially blames republicans in washington for cutting the parts of government that we're now counting onto fight against ebola, fighting against ebola both here and abroad. as ads go, this is pretty brutal. >> washington actually can cut spepding. >> the cdc says its discretionary funding has been cut by 8$885 million since 2010. >> our budget has been slashed since 2003, responding to an emerging infectious disease threat. this is particularly damaging. that was the left hook.
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the right cross was the se sequestration. >> cut. >> cut. >> cut. >> there are outbreaks happening today that we're not able to recognize, stop or prevent as effectively as we should be able to. >> cut. >> cut. >> cut. >> cut. >> make a cut. >> that ad started running today from a group called the agenda project that does not mind that controversial in their plit cat work. they say they're going to run that ad in kentucky. they said they've also run it in other states.
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the senate staff increasing the funding for nih and other agencies is now the top priority of the appropriations committees in both houses of congress. better late than never? the head of the nih told huffing ton post today that if there had not been a ten-year slide in research funding, we've probably developed a vaccine by now. and that would be used to combat that outbreak had they not been shorted in their research for a decade. it's the first time somebody contracted the virus in this country. when health officials said they were tracking 48 people who had contact with thomas eric duncan in dallas, we did not know until
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now that they were not counting health workers who treated mr. duncan among those 48. they should have been. a 26-year-old nurse who treated tom mags eric duncan at presbyterian hospital is now confirmed to have been infected with the virus. on friday, the nurse discovered she had a fever. she called the hopt where she works, she drove herself to the hopt. within an hour and a half, she was put in isolation. her blood results came back positive. by saturday morning, a hazardous material had decontaminated outside her apartment. they later cleaned her apartment, reversed 911 calls made to homes around her apartment telling residents that a health care worker had tested positive for ebola but that there's no on going danger to the public's health. an investigation is underway now
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to figure out exactly how this nurse in dallas became infected. there's speculation about how the virus might have breeched the protective gear that she was wearing. but, as of now, there are no real answers. so now we have several people who contracted the ebola virus in west africa who were diagnosed and then brought here for treatment. we had one person who con tracted the virus in west africa and was not diagnose nosed until he got here. we also had one person who con trakted the virus here. she got it from the patient who died. she is now being treated at the same hospital where the other patient was treated. where the nurse, herself, works and where she was also infected with the virus while on the job. okay. that's the lay of the land. two questions. first one, if anyone else is treated for ebola in this country, should it be them in normal, local hospitals like texas health presbyterian in dallas?
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they're now dealing with their second case, which one was of their own workers. should hopts like that be handling cases like this. or should anyone who needs treatment for this disease be sent to a specialty unit like the one at emery or the biocontainment unit specifically to handle high-risk pathogens like this. should those special facilities get all of the cases instead of what's starting to feel like just the lucky cases, just the lucky patients. and, second question, if you are a health worker in this country, is it reasonable for you to expect that you can do your jobs safely? one of the doctors who has done just that is a remarkable personal story to tell and she is our guest for the interview next. stay with us. o i do? you need to catch the 4:10 huh?
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. the lead authority, the cdc,offers this basic diagram of a crucially important process. how to put on and take off protective gear. but in real laf, it's complicated. nbc news recently observed a demonstration. >> we tape our first set of gloves on. >> it's a meticulous task where suiting up can take 20 minutes and a second worker watching every step. workers can be most at risk removing the equipment.
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>> nobody knows yet exactly how one of the nurses ended up herself getting infekted with ebola when she was involved in the treatment of an ebola patient there. it's still under investigation. meanwhi meanwhile, the center for disease control with a training conference call. they say they're also going to issue more specific instructions for health workers in terms of how to put on and take off protective equipment that might have been contaminated in dealing with an ebola patient. with this news about this dallas nurse, there's only one noechb case of ebola being transmitted in this country. but if it happened to this nurse, has it happened to other health care workers, as well. they're now introducing the prospect of being key to this illness but also at risk themselves from doing that work. joining us now is somebody who's
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been in this position. joining us for the interview is the assistant medical director for the biocontainment patient care unit. an american doctor, named dr. rick sacra who was evacuated from liberia after being diagnosed with ebola there. the nebraska unit is treating the freelance camera unit for npc news. thanks very much for being with us. i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. >> first of all, i should just ask you if you can tell us anything about the condition or the treatment plan for the freelance camera man working for nbc? his family says that he's sitting up improving. is there anything you can tell us about his care? >> i can tell you he's definitely improving. he's feeling a lot better, for sure. and he's making a gradual improvement. we're always cautious with this disease. we want to make sure that we
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don't get too excited about it. >> is there a fear factor for you as a physician. is there a personal level of worry that you have to overcome to be able to do this work? >> i think there's definitely some worry, some anxiety, i think these are normal human emotions when you're dealing with this sort of situation. also, there's some excitement, as well. there are really mixed emotions when you're in a situation like this where you're dealing a highly infectious patient. >> having lived through these precautions at a nuts and bolts level, having practiced medicine with protective gear on knowing exactly what the risks are, do you have any insight for those of us just watching the story unfold about that nurse in dallas, do you have any insight
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in terms of what's the hardest to do in keeping yourself say from infection? where are the potential pitfalls where they might be potentially still at risk. >> well, i think that we also have to recognize that this is not a zero percent risk sechuation. we pride ourselves and those are the things that you really have to do in order to keep yourself safe. we have a lot of checks and balances in place with our health care workers to put on our personal protective equipment and take off our personal protection equipment. we try to have a person who is in charge of removing our personal protection equipment for us. they basically stand across from us and say now i's time for you to remove your mask. now it's time for you to remove your fwlovs. we really try to take that human element out of it. >> right now, we have one person
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who has been treated for ebola in this country who has died. and that person was treated at this facility, this local community hospital in dallas. that is also the same facility where it seems like the one case of ebola transmission in this country also happened. cdc is reportedly considering right now sending all fuel dhtu patients diagnosed with ebola to your unit or another hospital specifically trained for this kind of treatment. do you think it's wise that they should sort of consolidate treatment in a specialty yupt like the one that you work at? >> well, i do think that that's a reasonable idea. however, i really do firmly believe that this disease can be taken care of at a regular hospital. they just have to have a lot of plans in place. i don't think that our physical structure makes this more effective at caring for this disease. i think that it's all of our pro
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calls we have. if that he can work out the staffing with the disposal of waste, with the laboratory, with the personal protective equipment, i think that other hospitals can be caring for this disease. it just takes a lot of planning to do so. >> that's exactly where we're at right now, that people know what the gold standard is and you may be living the gold standard at nebraska medical center. it's just a question as to whether or not other facilities, actually, run-of-the-mill facilities can get up to a level of that standard. doctor, thank you so much for helping us understand all of this. best of luck to you, ma'am. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. coming up, also a tribute to the power of persistence. stay with us.
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as a general rule, you do not want the skyline of your city to look like this. this is the city of richmond, california. just outside of san francisco. this was august, 2012. and the thing that turned that otherwise peaceful day resembling a war zone is the thing sitting right at the base of that huge cloud of black smoke. that billowing cloud was coming out of an oil refinery owned by the giant oil company, chevron. the chevron refinery snugs right up to the city of richmond and has been there more than a century. that day in 2012, chevron's oil refinery just ignited. a corroded pipe was the cause of the explosion. the fire stretched on for nearly five hours. ultimately, that incident sent more than 15,000 residents of richmond to the hospital. toxic chemicals spread all across that city. since that day, august 2012, a
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little more than two years ago, the city and the oil company have more or less been in a state of war with each other. it's not so much the residents of the city of richmond, but more like the mayor and the city council. residents of richmond but the mayor and city council. the city sued chevron over a year ago because of that. chevron's response to the lawsuit was to personally attack the richmond mayor for, quote, failed leadership. they also labeled the city council dysfunctional. more recently, chevron and the city council have sparred over a billion dollar plan to enhance and turbocharge the giant refinery there. the same one that blew up back in 2012. the richmond city council, and specifically, the more liberal wing of the richmond city council. they've been a thorn in chevron's side, they want to put all kinds of conditions, safety conditions, mostly, on chevron
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upgrading its refinery. what does the world's most profitable company do? guess what they do. this november 4, otherwise known as election day, there are of course the big marquis races. bill boards have been popping up all across the city. lots of them. this is one of the candidates for mayor in richmond. that's nat bates, but if you read the really, really, really teeny, tiny fine print you will see something else, major funding by chevron. ta-da. very subtle when you put it in print that small. in the leadup, chevron is now
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trying to pick richmond's new mayor and city council. and why not. they've got a refinery there. they would prefer their own candidates there to run things in order to get out of chevron's way, so they are trying to install their own local government. they've been sending out glossy mailers like these ones to the city residents, running lots of tv ads against city council members, the ones that they, chevron, would like to see ousted. because california is one of those states where you have to say right on the ad who's funding it you can follow it, major funding by chevron. the candidate who chevron is supporting for mayor, he's had, so far, $1.3 million of chevron dollars, $1.3 million so far. his opponent, the guy that chevron wants to defeat? last count he had about $22,000
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cash on hand. so $22,000 versus $1.3 million. for a small-town mayor's race. chevron has run up against a city and certain elected yoe x officials that it would very much like to get out of their way. and right now they are trying to remove those obstacles by backing a brinks truck up and opening the doors. after the citizens united decision cleared the way for unlimited spending and corporate campaigns, it didn't feel like it was an earthshaking national update. when they followed up with it's not just federal elections. corporations can spend unlimited money in local elections too, but little old richmond, california is living that dream right now as one of the richest corporations in the history of the earth unloads money on that
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♪ chicken parm you taste so good ♪ ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ mmm mmm mmm mm mmm mm mmmmmm the great state of georgia has some of the tightest races in the country this year. there's new polling out that shows the republican governor in georgia is tied, tied, with his democratic challenger for governor. also. the other toch the ticket race is the one for the open senate seat that is has belonged to the republicans in the past. new polls show that the republican and democratic candidate for senate in georgia are tied. it's kind of incredible, isn't it. both top of the tickets are dead even in the latest polling. polling the same, in both of those races, and this is a year when every vote counts, in a place like georgia, both sides
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are scrapping and hunting for every possible vote they can get. specifically, in the case of a democratic-leaning group that has been registering new voters in georgia. what they are trying to do right now is find the names of new georgia voters on the voter rolls. last week georgia's stacy abrams told us that her group, new georgia project has turned in applications for at least 40,000 people whose names have not appeared yet on the rolls or list of voters whose applications are pending. where did those names go? what happened to those people who registered to vote and their name never popped up anywhere and it doesn't seem like they're registered. georgia's top election official says that everybody who applied to register to vote by the deadline will be enrolled in time for the election. his office says they're not aware of any backlog in processing new applications. but new georgia says they're missing roughly 40,000 people. after our interview last week,
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after they told us about the missing tens of thousands of voter applications, and told us about their frustration in trying to get answers from the georgia secretary of state. the day after that interview, the new georgia folks sued the state of georgia, sued the secretary of state trying to make sure everybody who ought to be qualified to vote this this election actually gets to vote. the group moved the fight from e-mails and meetings they say were going nowhere into a court of law, they say they're going to ask a judge for answers and action as we get closer and closer and closer to voting day. in the polling place ins of georgia, the voting is already in full swing as of today. early voting started in georgia today. but in the courtroom, in the case of those missing tens of thousands of voter applications, that fight is just getting started. the georgia story, when liberal groups and didn't democratic leading groups started talking
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about it, it sent the ripple of progressive politics in the country, and democratic the candidates who think of georgia as the laptd of possibility. if they are going to handle that by disappearing tens of thousands of proper voter registrations, that is a scandal of significant national proportion. all right. and i promised you a best new thing in the world today, and then this other thing happened. i promise you there will be mucho best things. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> the network says i have to start at 10:00. i want to hear the best new thing. >> i'll text it to you later. you can have a preview. >> well, mitt romney is dying to run for president again, but he needs to pretend that he is being nudged into doing it by republicans. tt