tv Ronan Farrow Daily MSNBC October 14, 2014 10:00am-11:01am PDT
10:00 am
in an isolation unit where just days ago she herself treated the late thomas eric duncan. and troubling numbers today. the w.h.o. announcing the death rate for the ebola outbreak has spiked at 70%. that striking concern and high level contributions. facebook's mark zuckerberg ponying up $25 million towards the effort. that same kind of concern is echoing around the united states. some of them are promising. false alarms or non-starters of ebola. take a look at this map. first off in kansas city, kansas, a man is in isolation for potential ebola symptoms. but no confirmation there yet. in boston a scare as a hazmat crew boarded a flight. that too turned out to be a false alarm. and at new york's bellevue hospital, two patients just released for what were thought to be ebola symptoms but did not
10:01 am
pan out. finally an interesting story we're following in louisiana where a judge has blocked the delivery of incinerated items from thomas duncan's items in this state. they don't want that in a hazardous materials landfill there. much more on that later. i'm here with nbc's kate snowe. she's been following every aspect of this story. thank you. >> hi, ronan. >> tell us the latest you're hearing from this patient and on this community. >> what we know nina pham, 26 years old, in stable condition inside this hospital. we don't know much more about her care. he priest telling us that her mother is very concerned has been to talk to her by phone and video conference link. but we don't know exactly what kind of treatment she's getting other than the fact that we know that dr. kent brantly who was the first american to recover from ebola has given her some blood. that's the third time now that he's given blood to an ebola patient. the idea being that those
10:02 am
antibodies that he's built up against the virus might help her recover. >> he's stepped up time and time again. we're also hearing news about her dog. in spain there was a report they had put down the dog. they felt that was necessary. they're dealing with that differently here. >> the dog in spain belongs to a spanish nurse trying to recover from ebola. they did euthanize that dog. there was a social media bid to save the dog. here the story's quite different. nina pham has a dog. his name is bentley. and they've taken the dog from the home. we watched them remove the dog from the home yesterday. and take him to an undisclosed location for his own protection. the city saying they don't want anyone to know where the dog is because they don't want to raise a ruckus around the dog. but they have no plans to put the dog down. scientists aren't really sure whether ebola can be transmitted by dogs or animals. >> there's only one study and
10:03 am
it's inconclusive. >> right. so they're removing him from the apartment. the cleaners were out there a couple days ago. i spoke with the people that did the cleaning. you saw them spraying down the sidewalks. that was because she walked her dog out there. again, there's no science to say that that's infectious. >> thank you to kate snowe doing incredible reporting on this. cdc director thomas frieden has stressed again and again that hospitals around the country should be prepared for ebola. but new facts are echoing those questions. medical experts have begun to suggest, they say, that patients transfer to designated centers with special expertise in treating ebola. there are four around the country. emory, the nhi in maryland, nebraska medical center, and st. patrick hospital in montana. dr. richard carmono was the 17th
10:04 am
u.s. surgeon general and he joins us now. there have been some apparent mistakes here in dallas in the handling of this case. what does that tell us about the preparedness of u.s. hospitals for ebola? >> it's good to be with you. thank you for the opportunity to comment. what we know is that over a decade ago we spent a lot of money and time preparing hospitals for any and all hazards to include bioterrorism and events like we have with ebola today. the challenge is, though, in between those times when we have these events when there isn't practice, aren't scenarios being run, where the personnel are not being stressed in these type of situations, they lose those competencies. those skills. so there is an argument to suggest that we might want to be thinking about moving patients to locations where the expertise is maintained because of the repeated training on a regular basis. that's not to say many hospitals aren't prepared. but this is a unique situation and we are on new ground right now.
10:05 am
as dr. frieden said, we have to ensure patients get is the best care and we do the best we can to keep this pathogen out of the united states. >> and we've been talking to health care professional who is are very concerned and who are echoing that saying maybe it would be better to send these individuals to specialized locations. do you think that's a policy proposal that's gaining traction? are states calling for that, for instance? >> well, ronan, i think it's too early to tell. but to echo dr. frieden's remarks earlier, i think it's important that any and all options are put on the table including these specialty centers. we deal with it now on a regular basis in the united states with non-pathogens. major trauma cases go to trauma centers. burn cases go to burn centers. cancer patients sometimes go to cancer centers because the expertise is concentrated there. these are unique circumstances with a pathogen that most people don't have a comfort level with. where we have centers that have the expertise, it's worthy to consider but there's a downside.
10:06 am
you take patients away from their family, their support systems. there's logistical challenges as well. we must consider all options. >> dr. carmona, i want to get your take on the response. the absence of a surgeon general, a role you once occupied. i want your take on that. is washington at fault and how much has it hurt this response not to have someone in that role? >> a strong surgeon general, somebody who has been vetted, who has earned the right to be surgeon general, to be an admiral, who has the credibility and authenticity to speak to the american is just what you need now. people are talking about an ebola czar. an ebola czar is not needed. you need a doctor of the nation to coordinate all of this information and educate the american public. so if we start along this path of considering czars, we're going to have other pathogens in the futures. are we going to name a czar for
10:07 am
every pathogen? that doesn't make sense when we have a doctor of the nation. and who's been vetted appropriately and has the experience and has earned the merit and right to be surgeon general. that's what i think would serve this best fop have that doctor -- >> so talking about new roles, start filling the existing roles. but do you think that for instance senate democrats should force that through. because for people just following along at home, that's probably what would be necessary. complete gridlock on the hill. >> well, there's gridlock on the hill for everything, but i think this is something both sides of the aisle need to come together on. there's a lot of issues. there's a number of senators who had questions on both sides of the aisle about this current nominee being that he's very early in his career. he's got no senior leadership experience. he has no public health training or experience. and so they kind of backed off and said i'm not sure this is the right person for our nation at this time. and he is a very active person socially. he's a very good doctor.
10:08 am
i've communicated with him and expressed my concerns it wasn't personal. but that other than he was one of the cofounders of doctor for obama, there was nothing to indicate he would indicate being even worthy of the consideration for surgeon general of the united states especially in these tough times with complicated issues he's never dealt with. >> so maybe some real substantive objection. dr. richard carmona, appreciate your loud clear voice on that. we need to role filled clearly. this is of course also a personal story, everybody. that's one thing we've been following here. last night there was a special prayer vigil held at the church that nina pham's family attends about 30 minutes from here in ft. worth. i spoke to the priest at that search. father jim coy. i started asking him after his service how the family was doing and how nina's doing. >> i think her mom doing well.
10:09 am
she talk normally and sometimes she laugh. and she very comfortable. >> do you have a message about what kind of a person she was? >> oh, she's very good girl. she very cooperative. she's just very good girl in her family as well as in parish in the church. >> and how important is her faith to her? >> i think that her family is a good family. and even the grandma and dad and mom was very good people. so they show that faith to her. >> do you feel she was prepared for the risks of this job? >> i don't know. even the job before he got infected, her mom told her that maybe you can quit. but she says she likes the job. and she's very responsible.
10:10 am
she feel that it's her job and responsibility more important than her life. >> she sounds like a very giving people. >> we believe in our faith that everything happens in god's will. so he knows what happens and what he let happen and going on. so to me and i just sharing with my parishioners, everything is in god's hand. so if we worry or try to avoid it, we don't know how do it. so god is the one who knows everything. on another hand, we try to do whatever we can to prevent it, we carry away from it or just what the doctors say. so we try to do whar tever we c. but on both sides, we live in --
10:11 am
>> thank you for all you're doing in this community to support this wonderful young woman. and thank you for your time. >> you're welcome. thank you very much. >> father jim khoi, priest to the family of nina pham. our thoughts continue to be with the family at this time. stay with us, everybody. up next, a difficult question. what to do with ebola waste. louisiana weighing in and saying not in our back yard. but is there any science behind it or is it just fear? we dive in up ahead. don't go away everybody. hungry for the best? it's eb. want to give your family the very best in taste, freshness, and nutrition? it's eb. want to give them more vitamins, omega 3s, and less saturated fat? it's eb. eggland's best eggs. eb's. the only eggs that make better taste and better nutrition... easy. eggland's best eggs.
10:12 am
better taste. better nutrition. better eggs. it's eb. the annual medicare enrollment period is now open. it's time to pick your medicare plan. but how do you find the one that's right for you? you can spend hours looking ... or you can let healthmarkets do the legwork for you. with our free service, we'll search thousands of plans nationwide from highly rated insurance companies to find the one that's right for you. tell us what you're looking for in a medicare plan and we'll find it. at no cost to you. healthmarkets insurance agency has enrolled americans in more than 1.1 million insurance policies and found them coverage they could afford. you can talk to us over the phone ... or meet with a healthmarkets representative in your area. call healthmarkets now ... before the annual enrollment period ends on december 7th. the call is free ... and so is the service. call this number now. and let healthmarkets find the right medicare plan
10:15 am
virus. it's ready destroyed by incineration, destroyed by chemical means. it's not a particularly hearty virus environmentally. >> cdc director thomas frieden being unambiguous about saying the ebola waste poses no threat. but there are still fears around the country. this is playing out in realtime right now in louisiana. that's the location of a hazardous materials landfill that was supposed to be the destination for the incinerated belongings of thomas eric duncan here in texas. those belongings had been incinerated at 2100 degrees and according to scientists pose no threat. nevertheless, a court issued a temporary injunction preventing them entering that state playoff political outrage there. joining me now someone who knows that state well, a retired component of emergency responses
10:16 am
in that state. thank you so much, general, for your time. i appreciate it. tell me off the bat, does this waste pose any threat in your view? >> well, the federal government said it's safe. but it makes one wonder if it's made safe, why is it containerized and sent to another state? so in a way, it deals with the full na forming of the message and the consistency of the message. so it opens that question up. on the other hand, on a daily basis, we have all sorts of hazardous material shipped specifically to louisiana for disposal for the states for which it come from will not allow for it to be stored there. so the attorney general while he raised a good question, why would we take waste from texas?
10:17 am
on the other hand on the daily basis allow all sorts of dangerous materials to be shipped here and stored in abandon oil wells. i don't understand. we've got inconsistency on both cases here when we're dealing with this ebola waste. >> i want to delve into that further, general honore. 2.4 million pounds of waste were accepted at this same landfill over the past year. is there any reason this should be treated differently? >> well, i do think if what we heard from the cdc that this waste from this medical waste has been made safe, i don't think from a perspective of a safety perspective it's a problem. but the other waste coming into louisiana the a much bigger concern when you look at the impact on our water and environment here in louisiana. that is a bigger case. and then the story of the
10:18 am
hazardous chemical from fracking comes to louisiana and put in an abandoned well. so to answer your question, i think scientifically it's not the problem to louisiana. we accept much more hazardous material daily. in this case it's why would you ship it from texas to louisiana and whether that's a political play on politics. i don't know. but it certainly looks that way that this is more about a news flash. >> general, i want to ask you about that point. i think you just raised an important point here. do you, in fact, feel this is being used as a political football? a lot of politicians very vocal about this. governor jindal coming forward in a strong way. is that playing politics? >> i don't know, but we've got serious pollution problems in the state of louisiana. like near the airport where the people have to run inside
10:19 am
because there's toxic gas coming out of chemical plants there. i would sure hope the governor and our attorney general would be involved in that. or near lake charles where we have contamination of entire city water supply and people are being evacuated because the air's not safe there. so we have real pollution problems in louisiana. but i don't think this ebola waste is one of them. >> general honore, thank you so much for your time and all you do in that state. we'll be keeping track of that story. appreciate it. stay with us, everybody at home. we've got a lot more to cover here on the ground in texas and also some other stories going on nationally including this. activist cornel west arrested in ferguson, missouri. he's going to join us right after this break. u're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right.
10:20 am
so yneed to keep an eyesleep. there aon my health.s why i we won... that's why i take meta biotic. a daily probiotic. with 70% of your immune system in your gut, new multi health meta biotic with bio-active 12 helps maintain digestive balance. and is proven to help support a healthy immune system. i take care of myself, so i can take care of them. experience the meta effect with our new multi-health wellness line, and see how one small change can lead to good things.
10:22 am
10:23 am
but first up, i want to bring you some other stories. my colleague krystal ball is following today's top news in new york. have you got? >> thanks so much. next hour leaders in the coalition will meet outside washington. president obama is hosting military leaders at the andrews air force base. they will focus on strategy to enhance the current military campaign. among those attend dees will be those from saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. turkey will also be participating. the u.s. has been pushing that country to take a larger role in this fight. turkish officials say the two nations will hold deeper talks this week. meanwhile the u.s. says it has conducted 22 air strikes in syria since monday. 21 of those air strikes were near kobani. they targeted isis staging locations, buildings, and vehicles. a ena major severe weather outbreak is shaping up across
10:24 am
the southeast and the east coast. some 23 million americans are at historic today for tornadoes, high winds, and heavy rain. that includes the florida panhandle up the atlantic seaboard to west virginia. this system is already being blamed for two deaths overnight in alabama and in arkansas. and the dust is settling after hundreds of protesters marched in ferguson and st. louis, missouri, last night. on what demonstrators are calling moral monday. it was the fourth day of demonstrations that marked two months since unarmed black teenager michael brown was shot and killed by a white police officer. dozens of people were arrested including religious leaders, activist and author cornel west was arrested by cops. joining me from ferguson is cornel west and along with him is rev yent osajifu saku who was also arrest.
10:25 am
thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> i want to start with you, mr. west. what brought you to ferguson and how were you treated by police? >> well, i wish my precious young black brothers and sisters were treated in the same way i was. because this is a movement that has to do with radical love for young black people. you've got eloquent spokesperson ashley yates swob many others. there is a movement that is historically unprecedented. and it's ironic, i find it, that me and brother saku were arrested. but the officer that killed michael brown is still not arrested. i wish the world would learn. >> pastor, protesters at the police station they drew a chalk outline of a man lying on the ground. there were about 40 officers around in riot gear looking on. what statement were you hoping to make there? >> fundamentally we came before
10:26 am
the police to engage in active repentance that leaders across the country saying you are part of an evil system. again, our attack is not on individual police. it's not simply about a few bad apples but about an evil system. an evil system of policing where there are more tickets distributed on people in ferguson than there are people in this city. so we laid a memorial. we read prayers in the names of those who have been viciously murdered by police in state violence. so it is to bear witness to the fact that we in the nation has a choice. will the nation continue to be a nation that sits down an unarmed black children or provide the adequate resources so that young people, these young people can live in such a way that
10:27 am
democracy is actually there. >> it sounds much bigger than just about michael brown even though obviously that one life is enough to spark outrage. are you hoping this leads to a broader national movement? and are you seeing it leading to a broader national movement? >> oh, it's already a movement. keep in mind, for 400 years black people have been catching he will r hell. you're seeing now the young folk, grassroots organizing. i'm just here coming from from old school, using whatever status i have to love the young folk. it's about loving them to death which means protecting. which means respecting but also correcting because it's a mutual thing. thap is a crucial thing. keep that love flowing. we need to love our young brothers and sisters. >> pastor, let me ask you about the generational peace. "the new york times" had a quote from a local activist kareem jackson who was talking about
10:28 am
sort of the outside groups that had come in saying that they're using tactics that come from a different generation and got the results that those tactics are capable of getting. at this current moment we believe you need a little bit mo more. what would you say to that? >> we think he is completely accurate and he's concrete in his analysis that there's been clearly a generational shift in our movement. young people have come onto the stage, those of us who are older our only role and responsibility is to stand next to them and when need be in between them to protect them from state violence. but what we're doing is young people have take upon the tradition of militant nonviolent civil disobedience. that's what clergy did yesterday in solidarity with young people on the street for days. many have shown up late, but we are here. we will support them and we will follow their leadership.
10:29 am
>> all right. thank you both so much. >> bless you. >> thank you so much. and coming up, the race for an ebola vaccine. how at least three countries are fighting to get an effective weapon against the ebola virus right now. ronan's going to be back from dallas with that after the break so stay with us. the setting is perfect. you know what? plenty of guys have this issue, not just getting an erection, but keeping it. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. and you only take it when you need it. good to know, right? if ed is stopping what you started... ask you doctor about viagra. [ male announcer ] ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision.
10:30 am
to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor if viagra is right for you. it's amanda. hey sweetie. what? [phones rings] okay, i'll send it. one hundred seventy-two dollars for a chemistry book, what is it, made of gold? just use citi popmoney. boom. ah, she's feeling lucky.
10:31 am
hey sweetie...cancun, yeah no, you'll be spending spring break with your new chemistry book. with citi popmoney it's easy to send money to just about anyone, anytime. visit your local branch or citi.com/easierbanking to learn more. the last four hours have seen... one child fail to get to the air sickness bag in time. another left his shoes on the plane... his shoes! and a third simply doesn't want to be here.
10:32 am
♪ until now... until right booking now. ♪ planet earth's number one accomodation site booking.com booking.yeah! welcome back, everybody. we are back live in dallas, texas, which has become the front line in the u.s. response to the ebola virus. a race to the vaccine for that virus. dr. anthony fauci writing that the government is going to pour more resources into researching zmapp. that was given in courses of surviving patients here in the u.s. they are also putting into moth
10:33 am
other drug given to eric duncan here. and research is beginning for a canadian drug that may also show promise. also more news out of russia. they plan that ready a vaccine within the next to months to send to west africa. let's sort out what holds the most promise here. i've got dr. seema yasmin and dr. brian walsh. dr. yasmin, do any of these courses of treatment show any promise to be the ultimate choice for a mainstream widely available treatment plan? >> well, ronan, the canadian vaccine you mentioned as well as another one being tested by nih in africa, the u.s., and the uk have been shown to be very effective in primates or monkeys. but they have been v not been tested in humans up until now. it's a tord say whether they will work. the first type of testing you do for any type of experimental
10:34 am
vaccine is just to see whether it's safe to give. not people with ebola. >> brian, take a listen to what the canadian minister of health said about this. >> the canadian vaccine provides great hope and promise because it has been shown to be 100% effective in preventing the spread of the ebola virus when tested on animals. >> so echoing what dr. yasmin was saying about this being promising, but there are also calls for larger human samples to be tested next. is that code for running tests in west africa and would that best kal? >> i think potentially that could be something you'd be doing. if you want to see people who are actually on the front lines to see if it's effective, you might want to fast track that. we have an outbreak out of control and i think almost any method can be used to get ahead
10:35 am
of it. using people in africa a lot of concern and a lot of fear that would have to be seen in africa right now. but the reality is it's such a terrible situation. realistically an effective vaccine might be our best or only chance to get ahead of this outbreak. >> dr. yasmin, one interesting thing the head of the nih just told "the huffington post," he said we should already have a vaccine. do you agree with this judgment? ebola doesn't, in fact, kill that it wasn't clear there was the proper basis for this being where we put our funding. what do you think? >> there was always a potential for this to happen. and the fact is the nih has been working on a vaccine since 2001. they've been working on it. but over the past year there's
10:36 am
been consistent cuts in funding to medical research and to public health preparedness. that's why we're rushing right now to start this testing to fast track everything when we could have been two or three years ahead right now if we hadn't faced those cuts. >> bryan, final question to you. looking at all of the science in play now, all of the drugs being test tested, what is the realistic timeline here? >> i think we're in unknown territory now. we need to rebuild our stocks of zmapp. who knows what the russians are doing. it's hard to get verification. the reality is we're going to need to work on tracing on the ground to slow this down before a miracle drug or vaccine would be able to come into play and save the day. >> bryan walsh, seema yasmin,
10:37 am
thanks for your time. everybody at home, stay with us. we've got something big up ahead. a young woman faced with a wrenching decision makes the call to die in dignity and it sparks an international conversation. that's the subject of our call to action this week. you don't want to miss this. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions.
10:38 am
if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members, but it's open for everyone. there's not one way to do something. no details too small. american express open forum. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs.
10:39 am
to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and virtually no referrals needed. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. we love to travel -- and there's so much more to see. so we found a plan that can travel with us. anywhere in the country. [ male announcer ] join the millions of people who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp, an organization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations. remember, all medicare supplement insurance plans help cover what medicare doesn't pay.
10:40 am
and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call now to request your free decision guide. and learn more about the kinds of plans that will be here for you now -- and down the road. i have a lifetime of experience. so i know how important that is. i plan to be surrounded by my immediate family switch my husband and my mother and my stepfather and my best friend who's also a physician. and probably not much more people. and i will die upstairs in my bedroom that i share with my husband. >> that was brittany maynard in her own words. the 29-year-old woman has sparked a national conversation on the right to die with her youtube video that has now received over 7 million views. the travel connoisseur, wife, and beloved daughter was
10:41 am
diagnosed with terminal cancer earlier this year. she's seen her life expectancy dwindle down to ten years and then to five years, then to three. and now down to just six months after developing the most aggressive and lethal brain cancer that is known. a cancer that the nih has dubbed, the terminator. since her diagnosis, brittany has made the decision to die on her own terms. she moved from california to oregon where patients have a legal right to die. and on november 1st, two days after her husband's birthday, brittany will end her life. this morning in an interview with cbs, brittany said ending her life is actually the last thing that she wants. >> i don't want to die. if anyone wants to hand me, like, a magical cure and save my life so that i can have children with my husband, you know, i will take them up on it. but we haven't been able to find
10:42 am
that. and the way i would die just according to this disease is terrible. >> oregon is just one of five states where the practice of dying with dignity is legal. and brittany is speaking publicly of her ordeal in an effort to start a national movement that would change those laws for dying americans who feel they would be forced to endure the full pain of their terminal illnesses without another choice. joining me now is barbara coombesly, she's the coauthor of death with dignity act and also president of compassionate choice. thank you for being here. how is brittany doing? she's very busy telling her story. i'm sure that's exhausting. and if she wasn't to make this choice, what would the rest of her life likely look like? because you also are a nurse who practiced for many years.
10:43 am
>> right. i think that you can see the difference in her appearance from the first video to the footage that you have from yesterday. she obviously has a lot more swelling in her face. she's taking a lot of steroids in order to prevent her brain from swelling. these things, these media things she's doing, just taking a short walk i'm sure is taxing for her. what this disease would have in store for her would be a relentless, progressive, really dehumanizing descent into seizures until they became almost constant. headache, nausea, vomiting, and loss of everything in your body that your brain controls. including moving and thinking. brittany wants to control how steep she goes down that descent. when she calls it quits. she wants to control her cancer. she's saying i will not let my cancer bring me all the way down that descent.
10:44 am
so she wants to be able to say, okay, this is as far as i'm going. >> and brittany's case is fairly clear cut. she's going to die in the not too distant future whether she does it on her own term or on cancer's terms. other cases may be less clear cut so from a legal perspective, how do you draw that line of who is eligible to make that decision to have the right to die? >> the law in oregon says that you're eligible if you're mentally competent and termly ill. and terminally ill is defined with you will die in six months with or without treatment. there is a certain amount of flexibility, of course. that's why it's important to hand over control to the person themselves. because as their journey toward the end of their lives, it's really their decision. once they are terminally ill, once they're looking death right in the face, how far do i want to go? how much dehumanizing
10:45 am
deteriorating do i want to endure before i end the process. >> the american medical association and the hospice organization, they oppose these sorts of laws. what the ama says is that the practice is fundamentally inconsistent with the physician's role as healer. what do you say to that? >> you know, anyone watching brittany's videos can see what an enormous peace of mind she has achieved once she had those pills in her hand. that's the duty of medicine. that's what physicians are supposed to do. comfort always. >> thank you so much. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and whether you call it death with dignity, end of life awe
10:46 am
autonomy it raises ethical questions. people remain quite divided. this is of course a very personal decision. for our call this week, we'd like to hear from everyone on this issue. tell us your opinion using the #death with dignity on facebook and on twitter. ronan farrow is back in dallas right after the break. with universities across the state. for better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. and you pay no taxes for ten years. from biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo... startup-ny has new businesses popping up across the state. see how startup-ny can help your business grow at startup.ny.gov having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second... boom! you've had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim.
10:47 am
so you talk to your insurance company and... boom! you're blindsided for a second time. they won't give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don't those people know you're already shaken up? liberty mutual's new car replacement will pay for the entire value of your car plus depreciation. call and for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. switch to liberty mutual insurance and you could save up to $423 dollars. call liberty mutual for a free quote today at see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. eir credit score, they don't have one. but they do. your score still needs someone to take care of it. it needs your help.
10:48 am
10:49 am
welcome back to the program, everybody. we are back live in dallas, texas. what's become the front lines of america's response to the ebola virus. one interesting update on that response. yesterday the president convened key leaders around his administration on ebola. conspicuous by its absence, the role of surgeon general. that's because there is no u.s. surgeon general right now. republican opposition and gridlock on the hill has held up his nominee for that job since february.
10:50 am
dr. murphy has been outspoken about gun violence. there is an acting surgeon general right now. but what is it going to take to get a permanent surgeon general in place? admiral boris lushniak. chris jansing is following this at the white house for nbc. chris, thank you so much. first of all, tell us in your view, following this story, how much of a difference has it made not having a term surgeon general in place during this ebola? >> reporter: we were talking to josh earnest about the surgeon general during the daily briefing, which is still going on. they've had a strong response, and the cdc director has been the face of, this dr. frieden. would they like to see a surgeon general? yes. i've talked to a lot of people about this issue. and the example thaw hear most often takes you back to the 1980s when c. everett coop had a
10:51 am
significant impact on people, including smoking, and even aids. when there was a lot of fear, like we see with this ebola crisis, which was a disconnect from what the medical facts were. we really did make a difference. having said that, it is essentially someone who speaks to the american public. it's a communications position. not a strong policy position. and the white house thinks their policy in this case has been strong and has been an overall government effort. >> chris, what options are available to the white house if they want to push through a nominee? >> reporter: they can try the nuclear option. i don't think you'll see harry reid doing that, particularly what what's coming up. there's outside pressure building. an online petition for surgeon general has 80,000 signatures. we'll see what happens after the election. >> thanks for that update. this is a political issue right here in texas where senators ted
10:52 am
cruz and senator cornyn as well here both oppose and voe ccally oppose that nomination of dr. murthy. rick perry weighed in. he started a task force on ebola on october 6th. we haven't heard a lot of word from him since. here to sort out the impact of local politics, wayne slater with "the dallas morning news." you're right south of here in austin. you have a view from the ground on this. how have senators cornyn and cruz's opposition played politically? is that something that could backfire while we're in the midst of this ebola that would seem to necessity a surgeon general in place? >> not right here in texas. this is a political no-brainer for a republican in a state like texas, you either vote for an obama nominee, even in a crisis situation, difficult situation like this, or you vote against the nra. well, let me tell you the nra wins every time. so, politically don't look for cornyn or cruz to be in the rallying around a new surgeon
10:53 am
general unless it's someone that the nra doesn't oppose. >> how has governor perry played? >> very well. at this exact hour governor perry is in london, making a speech, governor of texas talking about business opportunities in texas. others might see that as part of a fledgling, growing and presidential bid for 2016. but he came back quickly. he had been on the road. he came back and had a news conference. looked like he was in charge. that's half the battle right there, frankly. named a task force to deal with this, and then he flew off. now, democrats are criticizing him. what the heck is he doing in london and the ukraine and elsewhere at a time when we now have a second texan, this time the first texan that has gotten
10:54 am
the ebola virus. but he looks like he's a leader, stood up, got in front of the cameras, talked about it and has done what he could do. i don't think it's been a bad showing by rick perry. >> wayne, looking although this nationally, how likely do you think if is ebola will be a political football going into the midterms? >> it is. this is so amazing, ronan. no crisis is left unattended and anybody can use it at their will. both sides are. the republicans are saying it's all obama's fault. i heard on the far right some talk show hosts like rush limbaugh saying it's obama's fault because he wants america to suffer just like africa, the people in africa suffer. on the left, the democrats and more progressive folks point out it's republicans who have severely cut the budget for a response to ebola. and so it is a political issue.
10:55 am
in those not statewide, but here in texas and i assume in other races where you have sort of regional, congressional or other races where one side or the other can take advantage there. there's plenty for democrats to point to that republicans have done badly. and there are some things republicans can point to that they claim, if they can claim it's obama's fault, as the gubernatorial candidate, greg abbott, in our governor's race, is now charging in a new ad today, it's all his democratic opponent, wendy davis' fault because she's just like obama. >> wayne slater, thank you so much. you really know this better than anyone. i really appreciate getting your insight. very interesting. >> thank you. >> thank you all of you at home, to all of our guests including wayne. it's a real privilege to have your time, all of you watching. "the reid report" up next with joy reid. joy, i understand i'm going to be seeing you in a few minutes. i'm going to give you an update on the ebola situation. >> i'll see you in two, three minutes. stay right there. next on the "the reid report,"
10:56 am
the latest on the ebola outbreak, including the update on the nurse in texas battling the virus. president obama is about to meet with allies from 20 countries to talk about the next move in the fight against isis. in ferguson, missouri, the fallout after several moral monday protesters were arrested. "the reid report" is next. people with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. if you have high blood sugar, ask your doctor about farxiga. it's a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. with one pill a day, farxiga helps lower your a1c. and, although it's not a weight-loss or
10:57 am
blood-pressure drug, farxiga may help you lose weight and may even lower blood pressure when used with certain diabetes medicines. do not take if allergic to farxiga or its ingredients. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include rash, swelling or difficulty breathing or swallowing. if you have any of these symptoms, stop taking farxiga and seek medical help right away. do not take farxiga if you have severe kidney problems, are on dialysis, or have bladder cancer. tell your doctor right away if you have blood or red color in your urine or pain while you urinate. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including dehydration, genital yeast infections in women and men, low blood sugar,kidney problems, and increased bad cholesterol. common side effects include urinary tract infections, changes in urination, and runny nose. ♪do the walk of life ♪yeah, you do the walk of life need to lower your blood sugar? ask your doctor about farxiga and visit our website to learn how you may be able to get every month free.
10:59 am
hello, i'm joy reid and this is "the reid report." new developments in the second ebola case in the united states. we'll give you an update on the dallas nurse battling the virus. how nigeria managed to contain and almost eradicate the virus. also ahead, targeting isis. within minutes president obama will meet with u.s. allies to refocus and bolster the military campaign against the terrorist group. first, here's the latest
11:00 am
developments regarding ebola in the u.s. one hour from now, officials from the centers for disease control will deliver an update as they continue to trace the number of people who may have come into contact with nina pham, the texas nurse now in isolation with the virus. pham is in stable condition and says she's doing well after receiving a blood donation from ebola survivor kent brantly. customs and health officials have announced enhanced screenings at airports in washington, atlanta, washington and newark, new jersey, beginning on thursday. stepped up screenings began at jfk airport on saturday. all of this as administration officials say president obama has been briefed about an investigation into an apparent breach of infection protocol at the dallas hospital where pham was infected and where eric duncan died. ronan joins me from dallas. feels like a long time.
164 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
MSNBC WestUploaded by TV Archive on
![](http://athena.archive.org/0.gif?kind=track_js&track_js_case=control&cache_bust=1881323441)