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>> islam state militants are claiming gains on two different fronts. >> isis is now advancing towards baghdad. >> president obama is hosting 24 military leaders at andrews air force base. >> this is pretty much a pep talk. >> the president said he's going to degrade and destroy isis. they keep marching. >> ebola disturbing numbers. the death rate has spiked at 70%. there could be up to 10,000 new cases of ebola per week within two months. >> in dallas the country's latest ebola victim. >> she continued this risky job even after her mother told her she should quit. >> that young lady is a hero.
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how to stop advances by isis. right now president obama is huddled with foreign defense ministers from more than 20 countries trying to develop a strategy to that very question. the meeting is being led by general mark dempsey who warned isis mill at that poiitanitants baghdad. today a suicide bomber in northern baghdad killed at least 24 including a member of parliament. that's just the latest in a wave of attacks that killed dozens this week. sunday attacks left 45 dead and west of the capital iraqi's are fleeing for their lives. 140,000 are forced to flee in
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just the last few days. for many of them this is the third or fourth displacement. those isis advances include a take over of the town of heat. third base seize in as many weeks. the crisis is growing wider and more complicated in syria. the u.s. and partners continue to pound the town kobani on the tu turkish border. >> our cape ality in syria is limited by the fact we don't have ground forces to follow up on coalition air strikes. turkey finally launched air strikes against curdi iskurds fighters in their order boners. fighters in their own borders.
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it is yet another region with no shortage of trouble. thank you gentleman for joining us. david, let me first just talk to you about what is happening here. that was a littany of really bad news about what is happening in iraq and syria. >> yeah i could read between the lines there. >> exactly. is this working? i mean, you -- you have been in the white house and now how complicated these situations are. it's hard to find good news to report on this. >> what i learned from being in the white house is what is very difficult is being in the middle of a very difficult situation that will take a long time to resolve and being scored every day on it. it does look bad right now.
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and what i remember the president saying is this will take years to resolve yet each day the news comes in and people evaluate day by day and it is very, very difficult, as a political matter it is very, very difficult. i do wonder how long people's patience will last. is there a resolve to see this through for years. part of it will rely on whether these allies who are meeting today are going to step up and take on some of the responsibilities that have to be assumed here. >> steven, do things need to get worse before they get better? how much optimism do you have in terms of isis being effectively decapitated? and no longer a threat in the middle east any time in the near future? >> well, look, the president set out two goals, to destroy and
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degrade isis and it is something that will take time, he stead would be a matter of years. we do have a problem in kobani because we don't have people on the ground and you need people on the ground directing the strikes to make them more effective. had there not been strikes kobani would have been taken. kobani is the center of the universe for much of the news media. what is missed is isis is drawing ever-closer to baghdad and that is where united states needs to bring the brunt of its force. >> to his point, things would have been worse if we weren't involve in kobani. that is just a number of the complex if problems this administration has tackled, yet it is a difficult thing to prove to the american public. you don't get a lot of thanks for it. >> without question. listen, there's no, from a
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political standpoint there's very little good news here. i don't know when there will be really good news here. a lot of what's going on here is the buying of time. the buying of time to train up syrians to fight on the ground there. the buying of time for the government to regenerate itself in iraq and the army to regenerate itself in iraq to fight back. that's not a very satisfying position in which to be. >> to that end in terms of dissatisfying positions to be in, what of our relationship with turkey here and the fact they are firing on kurdish fighters that we have aligned our self with, how devastating is that? >> it is extraordinary difficult, the united states and turkey are long time strong allies but find ourselves in the position with the turks where
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u.s. officials are finding turk irk officials maddening but the turks have reason to be concerned. first they're concerned if they take action against isis they would be the object of retaliation. there would be blood rubbinning turkish streets. secondly they don't believe the strategy deals with the problem of the assad regime, which you will go far towards solving the isis problem. and finally in kobani they signalled they believe curd iis nationalism is more of an immediate threat than is isis.k nationalism is more of an immediate threat than is isis. >> this is a problem not likely to be resolved by 2016.
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hard to believe another president would take a remarkedly different role. do you envision this would be something litigated a lot in the next term or basically it will be status quo? >> well i don't think it will be status quo politicly. one of the questions will be what is the mood of the american people about these operations of they're ongoing in 2016. i remember in 2002 then state senator obama took a position against the war in iraq. a lot of people thought it was a risky position for him to take. by the time the elections rolled around in 2004, and he was on the ballot, the war was quite unpopular. i don't know what the public mood will be. right now there is such revolt about isis and beheadings that there's a strong sense of
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support for the air mission. but will it be true in 2016, i'm not so sure. >> one more question. we have remarks from the president who just finished his meeting with foreign defense chiefs, let's take a listen to those comments. >> we're here together to review coalitions to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. i want to thank general austin of central command and general for special ops. some 60 nations are contributing to this coalition, more than 20 members representative here today, among them, iraq, arab nations, turkey, nato allies and partners from around the world. so this is a operation that involves the world against isil. so far we've seen some important successes. stopping isil's advance -- saved
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many sicivilians, destroying is targets across iraq and syria. we are focused on kobani which under scores the threat that isil possesses in both iraq and syria and coalition air strikes will continue in both these areas. >> steven, i want to ask you the last bit the president talked about kobani, you alluded to this earlier in the segment, are we too focused on kobani, some say we are focused on it because it is within shooting distance within news cameras and should we focus our attention else where in terms whaf isis is taking. >> we should be focused on
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kobani because there is potential for humanitarian disaster and is such strategic importance to our kurdish allies and strategic importance to turkey. in fact the facts that began this weekend with isis being rather close to the airport in baghdad are of greater strategic differences than the sooiege of kobani. baghdad is clearly their objective. they would love nothing more than to get involve in a direct battle for iraq right here with baghdad. kobani is a side show when it comes to central american objectives. >> thanks steven as always. david please stay with me. after the break, dire new predictions on ebola, the death rate hits 70% as the who warns
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the death rate has risen to 70% with 9,000 people effected. meanwhile pham has now received transplant. 76 staff members may have had contact with the now deceased patient thomas duncan. today josh earnest responds. >> the question is how do you respond, what you're seeing is a response in dallas to insure the safety of this one health care worker to put her life on the line to try to treat one ebola patient is what makes america, america. >> a new response team will oversee any ebola case on the ground. >> i've thought often about it. i wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the
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first patient was diagnosed. that might have prevented infection. but we will do that from today onward with any case anywhere in the u.s. >> tomorrow frieden will testify about the cdc response. joining me now from nyu school of medicine and political editor from huffington post. sam, testifying before a house committee is never good for the white house officials. how do you grade their response, specific josh earnest saying you should expect mistakes in the response to any deadly disease. >> well, i think that's an honest answer. there are going to be mistakes made. the problem is you have a deadly disease that has a good chunk of the country panicked. there's not much room for error in the response.
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i appreciate the cdc is forth coming about its mistakes but if they gave us answer that's turned out to be wrong. we are sort of in unchartered territory in respect to ebola. is there are other diseases we're looking out for but cdc is being forth coming about it. >> in terms of the cdc knowing how many health care workers came in contact with thomas eric duncan, the cdc can't give us numbers, does that concerni you? >> that is concerning because we should know how many people actually came into contact with the patient. everyone who came into contwakt him should be aware of it too. that's concerning. if these people are quarantining
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themselves, they could come down with the disease and who did they come into contact during that period, we have to monitor that. if health care workers are being removed from seeing patients what are happening to the patients in the er that might need treatment for things besides ebola. the whole situation is very concerning. >> sam you have great reporting on some of the system failures or budget cuts, in terms of response time, it would seem our funding for those programs has been cut and had a measurable effect in a situation like this. >> i interviewed the director of nih and his point is a ten-year slide in research funding had
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set that institution back in terms of its study of vaccines for ebola. he made the case it is likely we would have had a vaccine in time had the research just stabilized in inflation. but that's been backed up since then. a talked to a official in connecticut who is a subcontractor working specifically on an ebola virus. he said he had to stop his research because the grant ran out in 2007. three years the biomedical community didn't consider ebola to be the preeminent emerging threat. that's the deal with science. you have to prepare for a lot of things, the best thing to do is to make sure you're prepared when it does happen. >> this is a fluid situation, a moving virus. it looks like it has become more deadly. i mean, the morality rate was
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50% when it first began, it is now at 70%. walk us through what that means. >> first of all, we might be getting better at measuring the cases and what's happening, it could just be related to measurement and statistics. some of it may be, as more people actually contract the virus they are able to spread it to more people. that's another factor. that might be a reason for its growth. the final thing also is that, you know, people are concerned that maybe the virus is spreading in different ways, not just through bodily contact. i don't think that is true. viruss can adapt. that happens with the flu virus, that's why we get the vaccine, there are new strains, the virus can learn from its mistake and become stronger but with ebola right now we're seeing isolated cases where if the virus was
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learning from its mistakes we would see much more spread more quickly. >> let me follow up on this virus and the deadlyness of it. we are now getting, we here at msnbc get breaking news alerts and have gotten a lot of false alarms across the country where they have suspected ebola cases. i wonder if there's a residual you'lly bad effect. if you scare people enough they don't take the scare seriously, bo the boy who cried wolf, on a disease outbreak what is your concern about the heightened concern over ebola like symptoms. >> i think people should be aware of ebola because it is a problem and it is becoming more of a concern. we need to get more tool to people because just being
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worried is another problem. i wonder if we should make home testing kits available for people flying here from west africa or people working in the health care system. also if they flood the system then there might be longer delays in the er, there are a few different factors to consider. >> one other thing, the nih and cdc are operating off existing budgets to deal with this crisis. they are taking resources away from other research and other diseases that they are moderating and applying it almost exclusively to ebola. we have limit the pool of finances and resources we are now solely putting into the ebola epidemic.
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be bermuda. hawaii is expecting a tropical storm to hit in a few days. these violent storms are characteristics of climate change. a problem that is only getting worse. yesterday 9 department of defense released a report saying climate change poses immediate risk, leading to food and water short ages, pandemic disease, and destruction by natural disasters in regions across the globe. the pentagon, the national security hawks in the republican party will listen to our top military commander, surely. not really. >> back in the 70s a lot of scientists felt we were moving toward an ice age. so, look, i think the main thing to understand here is the job of
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the united states senator from kentucky is to fight for cold jobs in our state. >> that man could become the most powerful republican in the country in just a few weeks. then there's paul ryan. here's what he had to say in a debate last night when asked if humans are warming the planet. i don't know the answer to that question. i don't think science does either. he added we've had climate change forever. for those who still don't believe humans are contributing to rising tempts, perhaps there is this useful animated last six months of global temperatures. those six months were the warmest ever recorded. more carbon die ox id in april than at any time in the past 800,000 years. how is that paul ryan for an answer?
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not going to sugar coat that. >> same was true in kentucky where grimes again to say whether she voted for the president zwl thzbl this is a matter of principal. we have constitutional right for privacy of the ballot box. >> while becoming a frenemy should be the only way to survive in kentucky shouldn't be the same for gillespie. yet it was. >> i think like every american. i'm concerned about ebola. and the challenges it presents. and i think the administration should have acted quicker. >> but why all the defense? because on policy, the stuff that actually matters, republicans weren't standing on shaky groungd, they were on a
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magic carpet ride. in kentucky saying obamacare was the worse piece of legislation passed in the last half century. but on connect, the exchange that insured over 500,0 kentuck i -- >> insured over 500,000 kentuckyian. >> you would support connect? >> it's a state decision. >> would you support it? >> well it's fine, yeah. i think it is fine to have a website, yeah. >> the new york times put that best. that is like saying, google should cease to exist but that google.com should live on. on policy what are tom cotton's great accomplishment besides voting against the farm bill. voting against violence against women and overwhelming tendency to vote "no" on everything.
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>> i haven't been in washington very long, less than a year, but been there long enough to know it is just as important to stop bad laws is it is to pass good laws. >> david let me just start with breaking news here. the democratic senatorial campaign k34i9 committee is announcing it is going off the air in kentucky. can't be good news for allison grimes campaign. what's your reaction. >> i'm not terribly surprised. the committees have to allocate their resources in the final weeks. there are so many difficult race that's are more winnable for dem democrats than this one that i'm not surprised that this race didn't make the cut. mcconnell has been consistently ahead, not by a lot but fairly consistently in the last several weeks 678.
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she's not performed particularly well in the last few weeks. to effectively take the fifth on whether you voted for the president doesn't seem like an effective strategy to me. i have sympathy for her. the president lost the state by 23 points. it is not easy territory. the dfcc has to make decisions as to where they could possibly tilt the race in the right direction and they have decided kentucky is not one of those states. >> the dfcc talked to the post and said, their action is less about the liability of the race and probably about the recognition the house and sen sat protecting the incouple ants, defense not offense. i'm surprised how much of these races are characterized bring republicans being on defense.
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>> let's take allison grimes and her vote for the president as a practical matter we shouldn't applaud any candidate who can't answer a question like that but mitch's vagueness on health care probably matters more. i've asked federal times if he would vote to end federal subsidies to the people who shop on connect. which is the critical question. they haven't answered that question. so grimes should be forth coming who he voted for. and mcconnell should be forth coming whether he would end the subsidies. >> mother jones has a headline, process gaps matter, policy gaps don't. tom cotton is running in a race saying the islamic state is
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collaborating with mexican drug cartels and he's basically bchb been unchecked on that comment. >> yeah. beyond which that are verifiable and known. voting against the farm bill in arkansas is really a destructive thing to do and he votes his ideology more than the state's from. state's interest. this is not on the level. you're starting in races where the game is being played way down on the field on the other side of the field if you're a democrat. and it's very, very difficult. i couldn't agree more with sam. i think the words of senator mcconnell on the health care act are absurd and really revealing. the game is being played on his
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side of the field. he will win, perhaps narrowly, that is stunning in and of itself given the advantage he starts with. this is the problem with democrats this year, seven states with mitt romney beat barack obama in many cases by double digits where democrats are trying to hold on. >> brooks paints a dark picture of our democrat cy and i guess e question is will there even be red state democrats left after this in the long term. will there be blue state republicans. brooks writes political represent will under lie social social segmentation. the question is whether you will have red state moderates from the party in red and blue
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states. >> i wouldn't take it that far. the same column could have been written in 2008. you had republican elected in blue states, these things go in cycles. i will say that, you know, there is a muddied picture here which is that while president obama is toxic on the ballot for democrats, a lot of these republican candidates are vaguely inching closer, tom collins, for instance, supports the wage hike. he says it should be a state thing. in general he's supporting minimum wage. mitch mcconnell with his if vague answer on respect to connect. these republicans are inching towards the president's agenda. >> the question is once the election is over will that mood continue? >> no of course not.
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come on, dave. >> no i understand. so that ultimately is the question. >> i was going to say yesterday at an event, you asked people in a panel to raise their hand if you thought the gop would take the senate and robert gibbs raised his hand. so i would pose the question to you, raise your hand if you think the democrats will hold on to the senate. >> i'm not raising my hand. >> give it back to david so we can see him raise his hand or not. >> she's trying to put me on the spot, man. let me answer. >> yeah. >> i do believe that it's going to be very tough for us to hang on. here's where this is what will determine it, democrats take some hope right now in the micro targeting they have done using big data, the kind of organize niezing tactics we used in 2012.
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when you look for the applications for vote by mail ballots in states like north carolina and colorado and returns from illinois where we have a close governor's race. perhaps that will make the difference in some of these races and could tilt this. i think as i have said throughout this tegmesegment the red statement advantage will be very telling on november 4th. >> i'm going to say that hand was maybe half way up. the jury is out there, david. >> yes. >> there we go! we need a jpeg of that. thank you gentleman for your time as always. coming up, jason writeman joins me on set to talk about his latest film. if you have ever used the internet or cellphone this movie will resonate.
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>> in 1937 george orwell said the machine is here and its corrupting effects are almostir resistible. now jason reitman's new film explores the impact of today's machines and their corrupting effects. the film follows a group of eleven people, high school parents in a suburban town as they tackle this brave new world. >> you have read through every
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interaction i've had on every website, mom, i think i'm safe from the predators. >> really what is this? you're hot. >> i can't help if some random guy finds my picture cute. >> i can. >> are you serious. >> now i don't have to worry about him being inappropriate. >> i would hate to get any more compliments, it could do a lot of permanent damage. >> you know i do this to keep you safe. >> whatever. >> i love you sweetie. >> love you too. >> okay. let me see you phone. >> joining me now is the director of "men, women, and children" jason reitman. jason, let me clarify. i emphasized the number 6 because you're far to young to be this accomplished. >> i could say the same for you. >> oh, please i only directed five movies. >> i'd like to see those. >> they are all shorts.
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in terms of this film. it is a heavy subject matter, technology. the emotional impact of technology to paraphrase. >> we have turned it into a heavy subject matter. it is a reflection of our curiosity and desire. it is a reflection of what we put out there. >> what led you to this film. it is unique in so far as there is a lot of dialogue and plot that turns on text messages that is not based on actor to actor correspond ens. >> it was the most technically complicated movie i've come close to. we had to put the internet on screen and watch the actors to see what they are looking at. otherwise it would be what you see in restaurants. >> what we're living. >> yeah people staring at glass. but it is a great book.
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he approached ten different characters, a teen, a parent, young falling in love, married and trying to hold onto to the thing ins the age of internet. i knew immediately i wanted to make it into a movie. >> do you feel like the next generation is going to make the world, that we are progressing as a species and that the people that come after us will have and make a better world than the one we're living in. is that true in terms of technology because obviously the kids have a different intimate will relationship with technology than their parents. >> i try to take their home and make it mine. every transition moment comes with a lot of fear. as you look at the internet, as you and i didn't grow up with the internet, it's scary. it's an enormous change, but the star of the film, who is 20 years old, he said the internet
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landed at my feet half way through my life and what you suddenly have access to everything you want to see everything but to grow up with access to everything maybe you don't need to go see zblefrg ev. >> do you think we are now everybody reading the newspaper or having a ipad, people were absorbed in something other than talking to their fellow passengers. >> i think that is probably very true. at the end of the day, the movie looks into ideas that have been around a long time. which is why is it on a first date you reveal things immediately and you're able to be open with secrets, yet the longer you get into a relationship you actually start to clam up, you're not as open, you're scared to start an argument, you're more apt to share a secret with a stranger online.
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that's what interests me. the internet is an interesting location to look at that. >> i feel all your movies have diem exestential questions. >> i'm not a fun guy. >> that's not at all what i meant to imply. you have carl sagan speech. it is totally awesome. >> the movie opens with voyager, the space craft we launched in the 70s on which we put a golden record that contained the sounds of the earth, it was a message in the bottle to make contact with something we don't even know exist, then why don't we look at the people two feet away from each other. >> jason reitman i've enjoyed looking at you. >> not as much as i've enjoyed looking at you. >> come back any time. the movie is in theaters this weekend. thank you so much for your time. >> my pleasure. >> we'll be right back.
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if you are a big bank on wall street, today was a good day because profits with back up, way up. this morning j.p. morgan, chase, citigroup and wells fargo reported third quarter earnings. j.p. morgan chase this morning reported a third quarter profit of $5.6 billion in the third quarter alone. s citigroup reported third quarter profit of $3.4 billion. wells fargo which remains under investigation by the doj, posted third quarter profit of $5.7 billion. bank of america will release its results tomorrow. that's all for tomorrow. the ed show is up next.
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good evening americans and welcome to the ed show, live from new york. let's get to work. >> i do believe that our states know best how to protect their nar natural resources. >> sound bites have consequences. >> no kidding. >> you're saying you don't want clean air. >> we are in the middle of the mid-west window. >> we need the next senator to support fuel standards. >> i stood against big oil interest. >> i grew up on iowa farm. let's make them squeal. >> a
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