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l.i.e. le 2-1 score. fair ball. and 29 years of frustration have ended. the royals are going to the world series! >> there you go. good morning. it is thursday, october 16th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set we have msnbc contributor mike barnacle, "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner and former communications director for president george w. bush and co-host of the view nicole wallace. so glad to have you, guys. thomas is not happy about this game. >> he's been crying. >> he'll get over it. it's over for him and the orioles. >> that's so mean.

>> i love the orioles. >> put the storm windows on. >> oh, my lord. >> that's what is it. >> you feel bad for orioles fans. how could you not love the kansas city royals. >> baltimore that story is incredible. most games won in the american league and to go out in four straight, wow. >> that stadium in kansas city has been pretty quiet for the last 30 years. to see it that way last night, awesome. >> we'll also go to florida. take a look at just a little dip of what happened at the debate. just take a look. >> as you can see, the two candidates who were invited to take part in this debate right now are not stepping up on the stage. [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have an extremely peculiar situation right now. >> so what do you think? maybe it was ebola or isis or some sort of conflict, i think. turns out and we'll have this coming up when we get to it,

something about a fan. you know some people need a fan. we'll try it. might work. swear to god. think about that. we'll have that story coming up. first we'll start with the question as to whether can hospitals hand tell ebola crisis. it's the front page of the "atlanta journal constitution." it asks that question as one of their city's hospitals receives amber vincent the second health care worker from texas diagnosed with ebola. there's also news this morning that miss vincent flew on a commercial plane with clearance from the cdc. she didn't have symptoms when she took a return frontier airlines flight on monday from cleveland to dallas. but did have a slight fever of 99.5 degrees. she called the cdc before boarding to see if she could still fly. in a carefully worded response a spokesman says vincent was not told that she could not fly. >> double negative.

>> okay. earlier in the day space shuttle discovery thomas frieden said vincent should never have boarded the plane because she treated thomas eric duncan. the agency is tracking down the plane's 132 other passengers but says they are at very little risk. still frontier airlines says it was notified by the cdc that the passenger may have been symptomatic earlier than initially suspected and could have had symptoms while on board the flight. and today on capitol hill a top official from texas health presbyterian hospital will apologize for making mistakes in the initial treatment of duncan. those mistakes include leaving duncan in an open area of the emergency room for hours and nurses working without proper protective gear. i want to figure out, what exactly is going on here and is it actually contained?

let's bring in our medical correspondent, and emily, first of all, how could this woman have been allowed to fly. is there any possible scenario if you got that phone call you would let that person fly? >> anybody who is a member of the medical community, would they say that person should fly? >> i don't think so. i think if she was symptomatic and reported her symptoms she should not have flown. there's a lot of information about what's happened in texas that would be incredibly helpful to all health care workers to know so we could learn from what's happened there. on every level whether it's what type of personal protective equipment the nurses had to how the patient was triaged in the emergency room. we can learn from these things. it was pretty obvious she shouldn't have flown if she had symptoms. >> do you know how close we are to having national protocol standards for all hospital workers in all hospitals big and

small given the ebola crisis? >> right. so the protocols are evolving. that's true. we learned a lot from the texas experience and i know that all hospitals now are working to sort of double down on the type of protection and the protocols that they will use to encounter these patients. those are the two most important things in getting a handle on this. and i think that we will. and i think that understanding how to correctly identify a patient when they come in, no matter how they come in to an institution, isolating that patient, very, very quickly and then making sure that you activate the infection control people who are the people who are going to manage this patient from there on out. it's really those people that willwill manage that patient on they have been admitted to the hospital who are at highest risk. we are not. the average person is not. >> joe has been at the forefront of this argument.

people at first say oh, you can't do that. clearly, if thomas eric duncan didn't come here we would not have this problem. >> of course. you have political leaders in washington, john boehner calling to shut down the flights. that's the next chapter in the debate. i don't under how it's possible no one could have imagined this. i saw the movie "outbreak" two decades ago and this is exactly how ebola spread and became a very dramatic national catastrophe. why weren't things in place because you can't say we couldn't imagine this because it was in a hollywood movie. >> is that question to me? >> yes. i mean if hollywood could have imagined this and played out the scenario why couldn't the medical community have imagined this and made a plan? >> it's been a while since i watched "outbreak." >> it was about ebola. it came from -- playing out. came from the jungle meat, consumed and people flew here.

it happened as it's playing out in real life. why count the medical community have had a plan on the shelf for 20 years? >> there is a plan on the shelf. most of the protocols that already existed if properly implemented would provide all the safety we need. what we've got to do is double down on the training of staff and make sure that when we identify that person and really that's the key first step, that all the proper protocols are followed. and if they are, the ability for hospitals to care for these patients is really quite high. now, having said that it may be best that we start to identify specific places where these patients will be treated so that people with experience handle these patients. and that's, that's fine. we need to be flexible. we need to adjust as the information changes. we're not going to have a hollywood experience here,

despi despi despite hysteria. they did imagine it. i'm not so sure that's true. i think we need to be flexible. >> nurses flying on commercial flights it's true we weren't prepared for it. >> we need to know specifically what happened in texas. every physician in the country, no matter where they are practicing, every nursing the country will have something to learn from texas. and that's going to be what i think informs us going forward. the plans were in place. i know at my institution there were drills, there was plenty of information coming from the cdc. we know how it's spread. the science is here. the average american is not at risk for getting ebola. it's really the health care workers and that's where the work needs to be done in an education and make being sure we identify people right away. >> doctor, am i wrong in

thinking perhaps part of the issue here is that the health bureaucracy is just too big to draw a straight line from problem to solution? >> i don't think so. because the health bureaucracy at the end of the day is unique -- the health bureaucracy is where you meet the patient and that is the nurses and the registrars and people who come in first contact with that person and if they are properly educate in the protocols and they know what to do and they practiced it and comfortable with it, this should work. it shouldn't be a great -- it's not that complicated. it's very basic stuff. there's no technology that needs to be involved here. it's awareness. it's education. it's protocol. >> so stand by for the second day in a row president obama is cancelling plans to attend campaign events so he can stay in washington none tore the government's response to the outbreak. president met with members of his cabinet on wednesday about the crisis.

the white house press secretary josh earnest struggled when asked if homeland security adviser lisa monaco or anyone else is in charge of the federal response. >> i hate to be nit picky. she's coordinating the activities of all the government agencies who are themselves responsible for responding to specific areas of their own expertise. she's not overseeing -- >> whose in charge. >> she's not overseeing the construction of ebola transmission units in west africa. the department of defense is responsible for that. she's not responsible for coordinating the activities of the international community as they interact with local governments in west africa. usaid is involved in that. they have an area of expertise. she's not diagnosing people in the field. >> you interrupt me. you feel you have a point to make. you one my question. >> the point i have to make -- >> you are reluctant to say who is in charge of the federal response to ebola. >> there are individuals who are

directly responsible for their line of responsibility and you have an individual here at the white house who is responsible for coordinating the actions of those government agencies to make sure they are properly integrated. that's at that reasonable management structure. >> "morning joe" requested for interviews on this show any time during this three our period of time to have an official from the white house and four other federal agencies including the cdc. each department either decline or did not respond. >> but, in fairness, tom frieden, the head of the cdc has had press conferences every day. >> this story keeps getting worse. it's not getting better. in terms of the cases we're dealing with now it keeps getting worse. it keeps getting worse. we have a health care worker that was exposed to thomaseric duncan not quarantined. >> this is the question i was getting at. you can't say we couldn't have imagined it. this has played out -- this has

played out in books and films. played out -- >> there's no question. >> in my white house we had plans on the shelf for bird flu. avian flu is less contagious. >> in your white house katrina happened. >> you want to go there, that's fine too. but the answer to the question who is in charge is answered a lot more easily than josh earnest answered it. >> he did a heck of a job. >> you want to relitigate that, let's go. let me accept that comparison and say in, let's see we're in week two. week two after katrina there was a person in charge of the federal response. i don't understand why the white house isn't yet telling its story. i'm guessing the white house has a decent story to tell. lisa monaco is fantastic and if she is in charge of the federal response she's a fantastic person to come on the show and explain what she's doing. >> let's separate two things. it's fair cdc is in charge of the domestic u.s. response. tom frieden was a city health commissioner here in a new york.

he's a good guy. he's the first to say mistakes have been made in dallas. >> the public can forgive that. the public can't forgive why are there mistakes being made day after day after day. >> let's not blow it up. >> i'm not blowing it up. she was on a flight on sunday. >> she. one nurse. >> that we know of. plus 121 other passengers on the plane. >> in the early days mistakes were made. no question. the question is now are they pulling it together. >> there were an ebola patient in quarantine at mount sinai would you go to the emergency room? >> probably not. >> in lot of cities there's not 30 hospitals to choose from. it's a big deal if someone has a kid to go to the emergency. >> is this a legitimate argument? i'm hearing this every where. >> which is that people are afraid to go to the emergency room. >> people are afraid to trust

that the system knows what it's doing and somewhere along the way something correct will to be done in terms of handling people exposed. >> that's evolving. we got to do better about getting the word out what the science. there is science on this. this is not a mystery. we know what to do. clearly there's more work to be done to educate those people who are going to come in to contact with potential ebola patients and be very specific about what needs to be done. so, you know, comparing it to hollywood scenarios is really not helpful because i think we need -- >> public information piece of this. if the public aren't hearing from people like you and people who know the facts and science then people will assume what they see about ebola. >> in fairness they have been out there. the best people have been out there. tom frieden has been out there.

anthony fauchy has been out there. they presented the facts on ebola how to get it and how from text yourself from it. there's been mistakes. no questions. they will change their direction in terms of making sure people get the education. for months before it was even a story here in this country, the cdc has been putting out very clear information to all hospitals about what's happening in west africa, how to handle it here. some of that is evolving. but we'll get it. we'll be able to handle it. >> taking all the pot shots today we appreciate it. >> up know what's helpful? >> what would be helpful? >> if you skip spending just one day's expenses on bombing iraq and provide materials and equipment for local hospitals and large hospitals. >> that's a debate too. >> while we're on this point the

cdc's budget has been cut heavily. >> we have the dow to get to. we have the fan story to get to. >> i love the fan. >> which i'll use one to see if charlie crist -- thomas is bringing me. still ahead on "morning joe",", ezekiel' manuel will be here. also legendary sports right bob ryan is here. editor and chief of "glamour" cindi leive has the definitive list of women. russia attacks china. sort of. if you love yogurt then new york is the state for you. oh, gosh this is -- yes. this is yogurt politics. snacks. state snacks when we come back.

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♪ my gosh, it's time now to take a look at the morning papers. "wall street journal," citizens in hong kong are outraged following the release of a video showing police beating a protester amid pro democracy demonstration. the video show half a dozen police officers taking turns, repeatedly kicking a protester while he's lying on the ground in plastic handcuffs. reports say he was beaten for four minutes and of later treated at the hospital for his injuries and is expected to recover. authorities say they are investigating the incident. >> the "atlanta journal constitution" a record number of black candidates will appear on ballots both statewide and congressional elections next month. 83 black republicans and democrats are running for the u.s. house. that's an all time high. that includes mia love looking

to become the first black republican elected to congress. there's 25 black american candidates running for state office. some are calling it a by product of president obama's administration. >> mike? >> we'll find out about that. the post standard yogurt has been named the official snack of new york state. governor andrew cuomo signed the legislation yesterday in a courageous move. jon stewart takes us on a trip down albany lane. >> at the behest of a local fourth grade class attempting to bring forth into law official honor for yogurt. >> as far as the state snack what are we defining as a snack here? >> it's self-explanatory. you have breakfast, lunch and dinner. then you have snacks. >> did you consider, say the potato chip as the potential

state snack? >> no. >> did the sponsor consider raisins as a potential official state snack >> no. >> did the sponsor consider perhaps pretzels as the potential state official state snack >> never. >> that was actors from jon stewart show, right? >> very funny. >> there's this guy who is one of the writers and very talented. >> pretty close to reality. >> that wasn't real. don't worry, everybody. that's not our -- >> apparently the "daily news" still isn't over it. they are still wondering about the chips. >> stop. san jose mercury news, u2's bono is apologizing for iphone fiasco. the tune appeared in their libraries without consent as part of the iphone 6 launch.

album was free but apple was forced to quickly tell users how to delete it. >> bono gives you a gift you accept it. great stuff. it's free. come on. >> then you get more data usage or something. >> calm down. what's wrong with us. >> excuse me. >> a gift. take it. >> how about "the guardian" one of the rare siberian tigers is believed to have attacked a hen house in china. it was one of three cubs fitted with a tracking device and released to the wild. the cub crossed the chinese border and wandered into a nature preserve. the chinese media say the animal may have eaten as many as five chickens at the hen house. russian officials contacted chinese forestry officials who removed traps and set up cameras

in hopes of locating this rarity gear. >> was that really the five most important newspaper stories. yogurt. the album and the thing with the tiger. >> the yogurt. is that really a story. that really didn't happen? come on. >> it's a big story. >> that's interesting. >> god almighty in heaven for the first time in ten years. coming up things got heated at the florida gubernatorial debate. finally something interesting as the two candidates argue over how best to stay cool. seriously. we're calling it fangate. they fought over a fan, two men. plus if you don't know who will win the mid-term elections follow the money. we're tracking the campaign cash ahead. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe". (receptionist) gunderman group.

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the florida governor's race is among the tightest in the country, pitting former governor charlie crist against rick scott. the debate centered on major issues, education, same sex marriage, job growth. before that the showdown was delayed because they were

fighting over a fan that charlie crist brought on stage with him. >> as you can see two candidates who were invited to take part in this debate right now are not stepping up on the stage. [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have an extremely peculiar situation right now. which have governor charlie crist -- [ cheers and applause ] we have been told that governor scott will not be participating in this debate. governor crist has asked to have a fan, a small fan placed underneath his podium. the rules of the debate that i was shown by the scott campaign say that there should be no fan. somehow there is a fan there and for that reason, ladies and gentlemen, i am being told that

governor scott will not join us for this debate. >> i'm about seven minutes in governor scott took the stage. both campaigns dispute the agreement. charlie crist -- let's put it right here. >> i didn't get paid. >> can you plug this in. >> i negotiated three fans in my contract. >> plug it in. plug it in. right down here. he's like a -- wow. >> separate your legs, mom. >> wow! >> hold on. >> look up. >> got a leg in the air. >> what's happening here. >> there you go. >> you too are like charlie crist. >> nice. i can have a little. >> it works. i understand why -- do you hear it in mimi crow phone.

why was he bugging that guy? >> i'll do the whole show like this. >> what's wrong with these people. >> very humid here today. >> it was florida. >> humid. >> let's bring in the president and ceo of politico, jim in. >> what's with the fan with charlie crist. you want a fan, have a fan. >> we've seen the tricky dick tapes. sweaty upper lip. >> it was handwritten in the agreement. they put an asterisk next to the rules, wrote it in there and both campaigns signed it. it was in there. >> this helps. >> nice. >> you say your opponent can't. scott does. >> or if you don't want him to have it.

you know there are elaborate negotiations going on. >> in my experience there's nowhere on earth colder than a debate hall. >> correct. >> presidential debates when you cover them it's like 40 degrees in there. >> it is frigid. >> maybe not. >> nice, isn't. >> it awesome. >> okay. you're on here, jim. you played follow the money. >> he's regretting here. >> he's very uncomfortable now. trying to find out where the advantage lies in the senate races. what did you find? >> one thing. if you look at these different formulas people use to find a 69% chance for republicans to take the senate. i wouldn't be surprised if republicans won a seat or two or nine. there's so many races close. watch where the money is going.

democrats are pulling out of kentucky vladimir putining a lot of money into georgia. georgia suddenly looking like it could be in play. if republicans lose that seat they don't end up winning the senate. you look at georgia and you think who cares it's one seat. think about that next presidential election. if georgia is the next virginia, the next state that used to be solidly conservative that's now becoming very much in play because of demographic changes, pretty worrisome sign for republicans. >> there's another scenario where they pick up nine. in the last 48 hours i am hearing more of six to nine scenario than the one. >> i hear that too. i think that's the conventional wisdom. the polls we're looking at with the exception of wishlg and montana no two seats you can say right today i know exactly how that will turn out. >> the president has his lowest approval rating of his presidency. >> no doubt it hurts him. polls despite the lowest approval rating, you've not seen a big shift towards republicans.

republicans do win back the senate but all this conventional wisdom that seems like it's a done deal is absurdly premature. >> willie are you upset you haven't heard any of this talk six to nine. are you out of the loop? >> we haven't heard it on the park bench in central park. >> are they really take away from kentucky. allison's campaign pushing back about that. >> i don't think she's done done. but democrats feel it's not the best place to put their money right now. 19 of the last 20 polls showed mcconnell has a small lead. extremely conservative state. obama favorable rating below 40% in that state. not just one that looks great for him. look at arkansas or louisiana. yes, you think republicans win those. those polls remain tight and incumbents do good in re-election for a reason. >> what's going on in north carolina. >> republicans thought they would get it.

again tightening. now you have republicans dumping 5 to 6 million at the last second to take a state that may go democrat. it's a conservative state. a southern state. one that should favor republicans but for whatever reason the incumbent is running his campaign. a lot of this is tosses of the coin. >> what about yaerks six, seven months it was a slam dunk for republicans. where is the money in arkansas. >> that feels it's safer for republicans. top three or four as likely pick ups. tom cotton is an attractive candidate. has lots of money. has lots of ambition. again it's a state tough to beat am democrat. tough to be a democrat. tough to be a republican but twoshs a democratic. >> thank you very much. >> i love your fan. >> i get it. cheryl cyst knows what he's doing. up next, a piece about the --

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the story. todd, given your extensive analysis of this threat, this virus spreading in africa and the domestic reaction here as it comes to america, do you think what we're hearing from mitt romney, from john boehner, from our own joe scarborough is a bridge too far or is that a missed opportunity? >> in hindsight some can see it as a missed opportunity, but i don't think that's the answer. i think we have the capabilities to deal with this and, you know, we should not need to close our borders. the screening is a good idea to take precautions. closing the board sear bridge too far. >> would the screenings have stopped thomas eric duncan from coming here? >> no. but thomas eric duncan also should not have turned into the case it was. there were some missteps by the hospital that hopefully other hospitals won't do. >> but if he never came here, wouldn't we not have this

problem? >> that's true, but i don't know how you effectively keep him or other people like him out. if you're going ban everyone from west africa coming back, then you're going to have some other issues. the health care workers that we're sending over there to respond to this epidemic we have to allow them back in this country. i think there's ways to control this that perhaps do not result in closing the borders. >> steve rattner. >> i heard the argument about the health care workers in not wanting to close the borders because of health care workers. why couldn't you simply say health care workers come back and have a process, maybe quarantines, certainly detection, but close the borders to any random person who wants to go back and forth to west africa? >> perhaps you could. i mean that seems -- it doesn't seem to be a need for that. there is reassuring news in how duncan was treated in that yes there's a risk to health care workers in the u.s. because that's who has gotten sick so

far. originally the concern was his family would come down with it, school children would come down with it because he was in the community and sick. so far those people have not gotten sick. this weekend they will be out of their 21 day incubation period. >> what's reassuring about that. that sounds like luck. >> no. we know a bit ebola is a scary disease and on the face of it. and i think the worry was that he was going to spread it throughout the community. and so far that has not happened. it happened in the hospital. perhaps because of some missteps by the hospital. but he did not infect his fiancee, the family he was staying with, anyone else so far. at this point it's unlikely they will come down with ebola. >> todd it's willie geist. let's talk about this second nurse now who we know got on a plane, flew to cleveland, spent time with friends and relatives in the akron area, got on a plane and came back and said she called cdc and said i have a fever of 99.5 and was given

clearance. that's below the 100.4 that cdc says to set off alarm bells. but how on earth did that happen. first of all why did she get on the plane knowing she treated an ebola patient but how did she get clearance from the cdc >> part of the battle against ebola is this game of confidence. cdc projects this image of we know what to do and how to control it. i still beef they do. and so, you know, perhaps she was overconfident in following these guidelines, and, you know, right now we have people freaked out. it does sound unbelievable someone was allowed to get on a plane with a slight fever. >> it is unbelievable. she called the cdc, todd. she treated an ebola patient and she's running a fever and she's a health care worker so i'm thinking perhaps she might even do some of the math herself but not to blame the victim here.

>> she was below that, their cutoff. >> i don't want to blame her. >> you have to start somewhere. >> she was worried enough to call the cdc. >> i'm not blaming her. >> she was worried enough to call, who you said the agency in charge the cdc because they have been every where. she thought to call him. they did not not not not tell her not to fly. like 11 notes in it. why did they not not tell her to fly or whatever it is they said. >> there's a difference between the official guidelines. i don't think she was contagious. you're right it doesn't look good and i want makes people nervous. that's important. you don't want to freak people out and have them panic. yeah, perhaps she should not have flown. i was surprised that someone went on vacation during this period. >> mike. >> todd, do we know, can you give us a status report on the equipment, protective equipment available to small local hospitals or large regional

hospitals in order combat ebola for health care workers >> yeah. the moon suits you see in every photo out of west africa most hospitals should have access to that. again in the early phases when someone shows up at the hospital door step with a fever they are not that contagious and should be controlled. let's not forget that nebraska medical center and emory have treated several patients at this point without getting any health care worker sick. somebody knows how to do this correctly. >> that's a good point. todd frankel thank you very much. come back soon. coming up steve rattner explains yesterday's free for all on wall street. or free fall. why americans are finally getting a major break at the pump. plus after nearly 30 year drought the kansas city royals are going to the world series. bob ryan joins us on "morning joe". when laquinta.com sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready,

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. shares of the biggest u.s. airlines tumbled after news that the latest hearth worker infected flew on a commercial flight. at one point the dow plunged 460 points yesterday, the biggest dive in three years. there was a rebound but not enough to bring stocks back into positive territory. at the "closing bell" the dow was down about 173 points.

the s&p and nasdaq also closed lower. meanwhile, global oil prices are going down faster than at any time since the financial crisis in 2008. that's impacting everything from manufacturing to the auto industry. steve, what happened yesterday >> well, it's been happening for a couple of weeks but as you said oil prices after sitting in a fairly consistent range of 90 to 110 dollars a barrel since. financial crisis have plummeted in the last several weeks and there's a bunch of reasons behind that. first and foremost there's been a little bit more supply. libya has been coming back online. the u.s. is producing more. less demand because of weakening economies around the world. china and germany in particular. and it's a thin market. the other interesting piece of this is normally when this starts to happen the saudis pull back on production to stabilize prices and now they are not doing it and there's a lot of theories why. some people think they are trying to get at russia.

russia deriveds half of its revenues from oil. in any vent that's what's happening. we're winners because we still import a lot of oil. japan and europe are winners. countries like venezuela which are dependent on oil on rush are big loser. >> the market tumbles down yesterday yet that oil price means gas prices are lower. good news for the consumer. why didn't wall street react to good news for the consumer and second part of the question is tumble down yesterday, how much of it is europe's drag on the global economy? >> you heard about the stock market. first on gas prices they have tumbled down and you can see they are down to $3.20 a gallon, which is the lowest, again, that they have been since back before, at the time of the financial crisis and that's good news. but the stock market right now is consumed with a bunch of other things. slowing growth all around the developed world except the u.s.

europe is a mess. a huge mess. china is slowing down although still growing fast. brazil is a disaster. japan is not growing. all of that is scaring the market after a big long run. then you have the overtones of ebola and isis and other bits and pieces. >> why said mess. >> europe is a mess because they are 19 countries trying to act like one with 19 separate governments with huge structural problems, countries like france and italy where you can't hire workers or fireworkers, can't even open a business easily in many of these countries. and today is another ugly opening on the market. the market will open down a couple hundred points. >> steve rattner thank you very much. coming up at the top of the hour. southern charm clinton style. >> don't forget the time i spent crisscrossing the state in 2008. i still smile when i think about that bottle of maker's mark. i dipped into the red wax. >> thousands of kentuckyians

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>> it does. i love ellen. that looked like emma, my cat. top of the hour. mike barn cal, nicole wallace, still with us. there's news this morning that ebola patient amber vincent, that's second health care worker to be diagnosed with the virus flew on a commercial plane. and she flew on that plane with clearance from the cdc. she did not have symptoms when she took a return frontier airlines flight on monday from cleveland to dallas. but did have a slight fever of 99.5 degrees. she called the cdc before boarding the plane to see if she could still fly. clearly she had some concerns given she had treated and worked with an ebola patient who died. in a carefully worded response a spokesman says quote vincent was not told she could not fly. earlier in the day, the cdc director thomas frieden said vincent should never have

boarded the plane because she treated thomas eric duncan. the agency is now tracking down the plane's 132 other passengers but says they are at very little risk. still frontier airlines now says it was notified by the cdc that the passenger may have been symptomatic earlier than initially suspected and could have had symptoms while on board the flight. today on capitol hill a top official from texas health presbyterian hospital will apologize for making mistakes in the initial treatment of duncan according to the nation's largest nurse's union those mistakes include leaving duncan in an open area of the emergency room for hours and nurses working without proper protective gear. so let's look into all of this now. joining us now, former white house adviser for health policy and vice proboston at global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania, dr. zeke emanuel. zeke, actually i have a list because we have been reaching

out to folks at the white house and the cdc and other top -- nobody would come on the air this morning. what do you think -- these are all the agencies we reached out to the get interviews this morning. they have been forth coming in the past and been doing interviews. but the news keeps coming. i'm wondering what you would advise the president to do to make it very clear this crisis is being dealt with the utmost attention from the top down. >> well, i think what one of the problems is we've had problems with texas health, multiple problems including problems in the emergency room, communication among doctors and nurses, problems in how they actually instituted the safety precautions for the health care workers. that has to be taken care of and probably no more patients or health care workers admitted there until it's fixed and the idea of concentrating the people in places that we know can really handle it like emory, like nebraska and other sites around the country that have

training. that's obviously step one and moving the second patient, miss vincent to emory is, obviously, a step in that direction. the cdc has also made at least two important mistakes, this obviously one about flying commercially. seemed like the right hand didn't know what the left was doing and not sending a team immediately which recently was revealed to texas health to help them manage this give jints not an epidemic center, not a center used to handling come flex infections. we need to get it under control and we need to have a spokesperson who really feels authoritative. unfortunately, mr. frieden's credibility here, people are getting a little nervous and is not reassuring. >> would you advise the white house and president to appoint an ebola czar. what still hasn't been done because you just listed a number of mistakes and we can go on for a long time. >> zeke, before you answer, let

me add one thing to what mika said. if you were there in the white house would you advise the president of the united states to get on tv tonight or as soon as possible to tell us, or the country what's agagoing on, wha been done in clear and concise language. >> the president really does have access to the world's leading experts on this, including people at the nih who have done work on this at the national institutes of allergies and be infectious diseases. i think getting people on who the public can trust and really have it authoritative. you do need a brain trust, i think, certainly when i was in the white house and we had the outbreak of influenza in 2009, we had a s.w.a.t. room there thinking about it. getting more people in the room constantly thinking what should we be doing. that kind of emergency response

with talented people, there were a number of doctors brought into the white house would help. i don't know exactly how they are handling it and i do think, again, you know, you probably would have said all right let's get some experts on managing ebola to texas health given the unique circumstances of that situation. so, the other thing i would say is let's focus on two nurses here. you know they got early symptoms. they need support. the big ricks here for those patients are, obviously, coagulopathy the system is not working and drop in blood pressure they need to be managed by supportive care and i think those are important to make sure they get optimal care so we don't have additional mortality in this situation. >> on this question of who is heading up the effort at the federal level, josh earnest the white house press secretary was asked in the briefing room if that person is homeland security secretary lisa monaco or

somebody else. let'sist end to what he said. >> she's coordinating the activities of all the government agencies who are themselves responsible for responding to specific areas of their own expertise. she's not overseeing -- >> whose in charge. >> she's not overseeing the construction of ebola transmission units in west africa. the dod is responsible for that. she's not responsible for coordinating the activities of the international community as they interact with local governments in west africa. usaid is involved in that effort. they have an area of expertise. she's not diagnose people in the field >> you're interrupting me because you feel you have a point to make. >> no. the point i have to make is directly relevant. >> you're reluctant to say who is in charge of the federal response to ebola. >> there are individuals who are directly responsible for their line ever responsibility and you have an individual here at the white house responsible for coordinating the action of those government agencies to make sure they are properly integrated.

that's a completely reason wrabl management structure. >> lisa monaco was the homeland security secretary, advisor for the president on homeland security. let's talk about as you mentioned the second nurse. are you surprised given who she worked with, the man who died, that she was even allowed to take the initial flight to cleveland and spend time with family in the akron area. should that have been stopped before she left >> it does seem if you got people in incubation, or people in observation for 21 days you do want to limit their activity, whether we need to move to people under high suspicion to a quarantine situation for 21 days which they did with mr. duncan's family is a question best left to the federal authorities. i would say just getting back to the previous issue of how to coordinate, one of the things i learned back in the white house working on health care reform and global health issues is when you have multiple agencies, the

defense department, homeland security, hhs, us did aid there really is only one place that can coordinate all those agencies on the same page and really think through things and that's the white house. and i think you do need to have a situation where you have people knowledgeable about ebola, knowledgeable about the kind of responses and capacities working probably from across agencies but working under authority because when the white house issue, you know, this is what we want to do, that carries different weight than if you have, say, homeland security talking to hhs or even two agencies within hhs talking to each other. remember, again, while there are very important people managing it, probably physicians who know something about ebola, know something about its clinical course as well as it's

epidemidology. >> you make a great point. well get to some politics. first this in a huge blow to traditional cable television, hbo's chief executive has announced the company's streaming service, hbo go will be available to u.s. consumers without a cable subscription next year. it's considered a huge announcement that will make hypothetical shows like "game of thrones," "true detective" available to 80 million new consumers. millennials will engaging cord cutting. growing field of digital content providers. >> this proves that he's the christopher columbus of the 21st century. taking cable into a whole new world. >> big business story. >> this is a huge deal because this is perhaps the beginning of the end of traditional cable television and it has huge

implications not just for consumers having choirks buy what they want and not what they don't want and get it over internet or broadband connection. huge implications for some of the programmers particularly espn which essentially forces every single subscriber in america to pay over $5 for that service embedded in your cable bill whether you want to watch espn or not. >> do you think espn will follow suit? >> espn is going to resist to it their dying breath for the reason i said. now you'll see the bricks crumble. one service after another go the so-called over the top, and it's going to be a great thing for consumers and it's going to change the media landscape for companies. >> from business to politics, last night hillary clinton campaigned with kentucky senate candidate allison grimes. clinton has known grimes since the candidate was 14 years old. now grimes is trying to unseat nature minority leader mitch mcconnell. both she and the first lady appealed to women to do so.

>> he said why would we trade someone that's been there in d.c., part of the beltway for a woman he believes would sit on the back of the bench as i looked him in the eye i told him no kentucky woman will ever sit on the back of the bench, i will be heard. >> she will fight with everything she's got. for women to earn equal pay for equal work. that is not preferential treatment, that's fairness and common sense. let's put another crack in that glass ceiling and elect this incredible young woman to the united states senate. >> that's a message that works. let's bring in msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt live in louisville. allison grimes has been going after mitch mcconnell on women's issues. any signs that it's working? >> reporter: well, there were

some signs last night. they brought out a great crowd. about 4,500 people here to see hillary clinton and also to see allison grimes. you know, the atmosphere was almost convention like. hillary clinton recalled her own time here in kentucky. she won here in 2008. so, you know, you sort of -- we're beginning to see the outlines of what might look like another presidential campaign for clinton. but you also have to be this comes in the context of the dscc pulling down their ads here. clinton has largely played it safe in her decisions for who she will campaign for. she's been to pennsylvania, to michigan place where democrats are farther ahead than here. sign some ways it's a little bit ironic. mika. >> you know, hillary clinton, she kind of looked like a candidate last night for the first time. >> yeah. that was good. that was really good. >> she looked like a candidate. a candidate who is enjoying being a candidate. >> which isn't always the case. >> she's been focusing on equal

pay which is something she's in sync with at the white house. can you imagine hillary clinton female president, potential female president campaigning on the final nail in the coffin when it comes to -- >> the only problem this is a candidate that will lose and this issue, it's so interesting to me, colorado has backfired for the democrat. so i think it would be even more interesting to see hillary clinton go to a state like colorado where the democrat was hurt and the republican was endorsed in colorado. my point is the issues aren't the same. so i think that hillary clinton, to the extent that watching hillary clinton in the mid-terms is watching hillary how she will be as a president i think is important to evaluate her broader appeal. >> how did the issue backfire in colorado. >> the republican was endorsed by the local paper because there was a feeling that the democrat has demogogued the issue.

>> how about mitch mcconnell. how he is responding? >> reporter: it's interesting. you're talking about colorado and how that has backfired. here in kentucky mitch mcconnell is working hard and arguing that back in the 1990s he worked to expel bob packwood from the senate and that's why women should vote for him. he was a powerful committee chairman accused of harassing ten women. >> 20 years ago sexual misbehavior was widely viewed as not very important. almost never pursued to any conclusion. i made the motion to expel him from the senate. this was 20 years ago. so i've had a long and consistent record of support for things that are important to the women of kentucky and women of

the nation. >> reporter: so, mcconnell is also up with a new ad that focuses on some funding he brought back for sexual assault victims to help get dna test. he's thinking a lot about. the reality is here the gender gap in kentucky is not as wide as it is in some other states. something he always points out on the stump. >> thank you very much. i want to get this story in. i don't know. >> this is bizarre. this is ridiculous. >> did you talk about this on "the view." >> a new hampshire state representative standing by his comments. comments that he made that were very insulting to the physical appearance of another lawmaker. republican made his remarks on the blog calling his opponent ugly as sin. he compared her to a drag queen and noted -- can you guys take the pictures down. noted how he finds her opponent in the race more attractive.

he said if any reporters can't see that as a fact should question their own ability to function. both women involved in the "post" have denounced them, the comments, and -- who is he? >> he's a local state representative in new hampshire. he's basically a nobody. he's a nobody who -- >> he's a politician in new hampshire? >> he's a republican which makes me so sad because he's turning women's appearance, a candidates's' pearance into a central issue in the campaign. designee should be -- >> he does not look like george clooney. i'll leave it at that. not his appearance. maybe if we did comment on men's appearance, every male candidate's appearance became a central issue for women voters maybe they would stop commenting.

i'll make a comment about every man's appearance until they stop. you guys gorgeous. okay. but you are work in television so that's not fair. i think we should actually start. it's not working the other way. you talk about how it's not fair to talk about a women candidate's appearance. the better way to level it out is to talk about their appearance. >> rather than pick on appearances you go to intellect. say steve dumb as a door post. >> does it hurt? >> sure. >> i could have said that a week ago. >> doumb as a door post. >> we call lots of politicians dumb as a door post. >> in the year 2014, a guy who is a nobody says that about a woman who, you know, obviously -- >> what a specimen. >> second runner up in the pete

rose look-a-like. >> we should have skipped the story, actually. >> my fault. okay. still ahead on "morning joe" a new cia study reportedly finds that arming rebels rarely works. what does that mean for the u.s. strategy to train the syrian rebels? the former supreme ally commander at nato joins us ahead. plus have reporter found a way to get around the white house censorship issue. we'll tell you their plan next. we'll be right back.

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♪ all right. airports in atlanta and portland are the latest to deal with an ebola scare something that's becoming more and more common across the country. in yesterday's case a child threw up on a flight from nigeria to atlanta. she threw up again on that

plane. scrambling a new round of emergency measures when she touched down. turns out the girl ate too much junk food. earlier this month, there was a scare on a flight from belgium to newark when a liberian man started vomiting. three days late ear sick passenger triggered an emergency landing in texas. a flight from philly from the dominican republic was met by agents in hazmat suits after a passenger made a joke on ebola. other people on board whipped out their cell phones to record it. there's false alarms in las vegas, nashville and boston. as the fire chief involved in one of the cases a person getting sick adding quote, people get sick on airplanes all the time. >> okay. we have nicole here and mike -- >> whoa. >> hands where we can see them. >> exactly. hands in the air. we'll do the papers.

"chicago tribune" police in chicago say a man briefly ran the chicago marathon over the weekend while fleeing police. the man was spotted bumping into spectators. he bolted. officials chased him down, tackled him to the ground and he was found carrying drugs. he was charged with three misdeamnors for resisting arrest. reckless conduct. plus pretending to be in the marathon. >> hope he stopped and got the water cups. >> an orange slice. >> should nicole take this next one. >> from the "huffington post," research out of harvard university says there is a mass shooting in the united states every 64 days. the study says the rate of mass shootings have increased three fold since 2011 to an everything of every 64 days. researchers say the report

focuses on public attacks and echoes the findings of an fbi study that was released last month. troubling. >> "the washington post," white house journalists are finding new ways to distribute their pool reports after mounting frustrations with the obama administration. washington journalists have created an alternative forum to share information among themselves without the white house getting involved. reporters say white house sometimes delays or refuses to release reports to hundreds of news organizations unless changes are made to their satisfaction. >> so, i don't know if everyone unzs. a pool is asemied. one reporter writes the full report. our white house was never involved in the content of that full report. the notion that they have taken on an editorial role is wild to me. it's a development in journalism that i think people don't really care about because they feel journalists always complain. >> did your white house ever

read the reports? >> i did read them. and they were not always pleasant. they are a tool for the press corps. and seriously, if our white house or press office had tried to edit the reports there would have been a revolution. >> i think you're being heckled by barnacle. >> take the next story. >> okay. this is from the "new york times." neil patrick harris has been tapped to host the 2015 emmys. the actor previously hosted the tony and emmy awards. he standard in the broadway play and in the movie "gone girl." have you seen that? >> i heard it's very good. >> phenomenal. >> great choice, neil patrick harris. >> very talented. >> that will air on february 22nd. >> "san francisco chronicle" apple expected to unveil new ipads and a new mac operating

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♪ we're learning that turkey is now going let the u.s. use its air bases as a base for the launching those air strikes both in iraq and syria. >> that's what i'm talking about, turkey. i always knew one country you can always count on turkey. good old ottoman. i knew you guys would come

through. what's that. >> turkey is denying reports that the u.s. can use its bases for air strikes. >> can't use the bases. what the hell, turkey, you know we're all about the base. we're all about the base. no rebels, we're all about the base. wow. here with us from the pentagon, it would be funny if it wasn't so true, nbc news chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski. there are indications that isis fighters are not only on the run but making additional gains virtually in the shadow of baghdad. what your hearing? >> reporter: that's right. some disturbing developments overnight as isis troops are poised to take the down of falluja to the north and west of baghdad. accords to u.s. military officials this has been a long standing campaign by isis to take over all of the anbar

province and this is not a random rampage but a well-planned strategic operation to seize a string of these cities to tighten their death grip in anbar but also to potentially threaten baghdad in the long run. at the same time a bit of good news, if only slight. those relentless air strikes against kobani up there in syria along the turkish border have set the isis fighters back on their heels. they stopped them dead in their tracks, and the kurdish fighters, rebels inside the kobani city have been able to retake some of that territory. u.s. officials caution, however, that that fight is far from over and that kobani could still fall. and, mika, this gets back to what general martin dempsey the chairman of the joint staff have said repeatedly since the beginning of this air strikes alone cannot sufficient degrade or ultimately destroy isis. that it's going to take ground troops. if they are not going to be american troops as president

obama has said it's got to be reliable troops. iraqis, other arabs. but i emphasize the word reliable and so for military officials have no confidence in any of those inforces to take o isis. >> willie. >> joining us now dean of the fletcher school of tufts university, the author of the "accidental admiral." thank you for being with us. let's pick up where jim miklaszewski left off. a month or so into this anti-isis campaign to degrade and destroy, the terms being used by the white house yet we're seeing now they are taking over cities in anbar province. they are the general said they won't take baghdad. is this working. >> i would say it's not. we have got to get turkey into the game.

that requires them letting us use these bases. it requires, ultimately, ground troops coming across that border. turkey has a 500,000 man army the second largest in nato. they got to get into the game. second, ultimately is not good news. we need to put u.s. boots on the ground. not 150,000 but probably 10,000 to do the advising, training, mentoring. that's how you make iraqi security forces effective. if we can get isis in a three front war, iraqi security in the south, bombing in the west we can still turn this thing. >> two questions, admiral. turkey is a member of nato. are we overestimating this support we're getting from nato countries such as turkey, and two, with regard to iraq and the iraqi army do the iranians, do you think have more influence on the iraqi army than we do?

>> i think to the first question, nato and turkey, we have to put more pressure on them. there's 28 nations in turkey, 27 nations ought to be standing with the turks and say get in the game. >> why aren't they. >> they are but not having an effect. turkey is conflicted. they are focused on bringing down the assad regime. they need to get more focused on isis. to your second question on the iran ran influence. the iranians have a lot of flun in baghdad. not more than the u.s. at this minute because we can put more assets in this game than the iranians. >> jim miklaszewski, you talked about reliable forces. are there -- what other options are there besides u.s. forces? >> reporter: yes. well, you know, some of the arab allies at least the u.s. is hopeful that ultimately they

will participate. now i can tell you that the hopes or the aspirations of people here in this building of getting any of those arab allies involved in this fight is minimal, and that as the admiral mentioned a moment ago it's ultimately going to take american troops on the ground. if i could ask the admiral one question about turkey and the assad regime, syria. it appears that turkey is holding out in an effort to get the u.s. and its allies to, in fact, confront assad. is that your take? >> i think that's very much part of it and the third leg of this turkish issue is their very troubled relationship with their kurdish minority. as someone said just yesterday hey the good news is turkey is bombing. bad news is they are bombing the kurds. we got to get them in the game against isis, get them unfocused on the kurdish issue and unfocused for the moment on assad. >> does the military have

confidence that if they go the white house, they go the president and say to achieve your objective mr. president we need to re-examine this issue of boots on the ground. how is that relationship and how would you guess that conversation would go? >> i would hope that our military and i believe this, our military have given the president a wide range of options and within that range they will say to him this is very high-risk. if we don't put u.s. boots on the ground, if we want to turn this thing mr. president we need to put 10,000, maybe 15,000 troops on the ground. i would guess those conversations are under way. >> you're surprised the president initially said there would be no american boots on the ground. >> i'm not surprised. there's middle east fatigue. last thing people want is troops back. we have to confront this dean it without 150,000 troops. >> what about the use of the word destroy. we'll destroy isis. basically how do you destroy an ideology. >> i don't think we're going to

destroy isis in an ideological sense. you're on the right point. the long game here. we need to destroy isis in the short term mechanically. the long game is ideology. some people say we're in a war of ideas. that's not quite right. we're in a marketplace of ideas. we have good ideas. we got to move that in the long term. >> that's the other conversation to have on this. the book is "the accidental admiral." thank you so much for being on the show. jim miklaszewski, thank you as well. still ahead, a tiger on the loose and attacking china. why vladimir putin was to blame for this. >> stick around for this. >> you don't want to miss it. >> really. >> i can comment on that. >> go for it. you got ten seconds.

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just the conversation we're having off camera with nicole, bob, one of the points in this book that jumps off each page and jumped off the page each time bob ryan is in the "boston globe," it's possible to write about these games with enthusiasm, with respect for the athletic skill. >> thank you. i like to believe that. i think the central issue is are you a fan of the sport. are you a fan of competition? do you appreciate events. that's the core of it all. so people say i don't root. fine. i don't care. i root for the story. i never care who wins or loses. this is how people cover a team. i write about people. big deal. it's not hard to write about people if you're a professional writer, if you have a little element of compassion, intelligence, curiosity you should be able to write about people. do we care about these people? absent the games? the games are the core of everything.

if you don't like the competition, if you're not moved and curious about outcomes, why are you in this business. >> you know -- >> that's a good question. >> your favorite sport basketball. this guy formed and framed the popular concept of the nba. >> you've seen the nba evolve is a lot. there's some incredible photographs here. i'm looking at one of you sitting at a table in 1972 with tommie hinesman, dave collins to your left. how different is that league today than it was then. obviously it made the big turn when larry and magic came. >> i started in 1969. we still had teams that played home games. we had double head towers attract patronage. we did. >> that's crazy. >> mom and pop standing in the store, at the grocery store with the thing knock the thing off the shelf as opposed to what it is today an international c

conglomera conglomerate. >> this is a picture of your mom. >> my father died when he was 11. he was the dna that was injected in me. the sports passion. i know nothing of my life other than going to games because of his involvement. but when he died my mother had she not been aware and said good fan, not -- she knew that she needed to stoke the flames. so here's a good example. my father dies in may of 1957. following november or october whatever there was a big football game. it was the resumption of a series that ceased in 1947 amidst great publicity it was resumed and she got tickets for that game in philadelphia and that meant so much. and as time went on took me to games in philadelphia. 1962 i came home from a summer job and said we're going to

bridgton, new jersey because trend on the babe ruth league was laying for the national championship. yes my mother was instrumental. >> took the mantel. >> there are many great pictures in this group. willie pointed out a couple of them. you were friends with larry bird, with many members of the celtics, with several athletes and made no bone about your friendship with them. do you think it's possible today for sports writers today, sports journalists today to become friendly with athletes, the people they cover without all this tisk, tisk and tweeting and conflict. >> it's much more difficult. i can't imagine -- first of all i wouldn't want to cover a beat on any major paper or website with any major sport or college today. the demands, the question, everything is different. no. the answer to your question is almost undoubtedly no. you don't have access. no ability -- how would you get to know them. you don't spend any time with them. i went to practice every day. an hour before practice, no

notebook i my the wives names, kids names. watched practice entirely. go in with a notebook, write the story and go to lunch with them. >> tell us about cowen's retirement. >> i start the book with something that's singular for me. if anybody else has a similar story raise your hands. during the exhibition seen of 1980 he were in indiana and i knock on the door at 12 noon and there stands dave cowen in his uniform, 18, holding a sheath of papers. he hands me the papers and it's a retirement statement. i'm quitting. effective immediately. i said what do you want from me. i want to you edit it and get it in the paper. i can get it in the paper. give me about an hour. it was written. need ad little tweaking. because we knew -- >> that's what you do. >> but the punch line, he's going out the door and turns

around do you mind if i call red first. red the auerbach. no that's okay if you want to call red. so the conversation, calls his secretary, hi, mary it's dave can i call red. red remember what we talked about a couple of days ago. i'm going to do it. see you. click. if anybody has a story similar to that send it. >> the book is "scribe." >> every page is great. >> fantastic. great book. up next "time" magazine is calling him the most interesting man in politics. we'll reveal who that is next on "morning joe". kid: hey dad, who was that man? dad: he's our broker. he helps looks after all our money. kid: do you pay him? dad: of course. kid: how much? dad: i don't know exactly. kid: what if you're not happy? does he have to pay you back? dad: nope. kid: why not?

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thomas is joining us. my fan anywhere -- >> it's over here, my feet. >> you took it. >> i'm no dummy. it's warm in these parts. >> thomas has one fan. >> joining us now, the washington bureau chief for "time." you've got the cover story. would is the most interesting man in politics? >> randal howard paul, the junior senator from kentucky. >> why? >> politics is about storytelling and the stories

almost never change and here's a guy who's really trying to canning the whole narrative of how we think about republican party versus democratic party. he's going around the country talking to conservative, all white, straight and narrow, preppy audiences, saying we have to embrace the freaks and the weirdos and the long hairs and the guys with tattoos. like other republicans have done unsuccessfully to minority communities, saying, i want to do a bunch of things you haven't heard republicans say in the past need to be done. he's going to young people around the country. more important than that i think is republicans -- he's not the first person to try to color outside the lines, but republicans, because they're in this sort of demographic bind, are actually listening. he's got a soap box and he's actually making changes. >> well, what did you find surprising? why did you find him to be the most interesting man in politics? >> i think there's a -- spending time with him, there's a strange

contradiction. he's incredibly bold in his positions. he's also incredibly cautious and wary of the process. he's not a great campaigner yet. i think he can get better. but he's also -- the way in which he slices positions is actually very interesting. it's almost like interviewing him is being in a graduate seminar on how to be conservative and hold these views and be consistent. it takes three or four jumps to really slice the issues he's after. it's far more intellectual approach to politics than we've seen. >> we've sort of been watching him. do you think he's viable? >> yeah, i think he is. i was going to ask him -- i don't know is the answer, i don't know if he's viable. he is so different from where the republican party tends to go. he scares me on foreign policy.

i don't know in my gut if he's viable. i don't know how many republicans feel that way. he just went to ferguson and did a meeting in ferguson. not only have other republicans done that that i'm aware of, not that many white politicians have done that. so what i find interesting is his fearlessness. i think it is exactly what the republican party needs. i wonder how you find republicans feeling about rand paul. >> their very excited, especially the younger crowds i saw him with. ferguson, during that conversation, he actually said he wanted to increase social spending for job training, things like that, in urban communities. you don't hear many republicans, especially like rand paul, saying that. he's proposing taking nonviolent offenders out of prison, using the money saved from that,

increasing social money used in cities. going to various groups around the country and saying, i'm going to give you more country. he's saying, i'm going to pay for it by cutting dramatically in other parts of government. it's a very odd thing. i think the question about viability is interesting. may not be the right one right now. he's going to have a huge impact on what the nominee, whoever it is, is saying. >> i get the most interesting man in politics and i get all the interesting things he says and the places he goes that are very different from a lot of perceptions about republicans. my question to you, may be un c unanswerable. what does this say on politicians on both sides of the aisles that rand paul is the interesting one? >> he didn't have a lot of competition, that's right. republicans have sort of painted themselves into a corner.

democrats feel like, you know, hillary clinton, if you read her book, she can speak exactly like you expect hillary clinton to speak and say nothing else that surprises you and she's going to win the nomination and win the presidency. i think we're in a dry spell. i think at the same time, huge numbers of people in the country reallye iine iningly sick of boh parties, and so there's an opportunity. >> thank you so much. did you see that poll? that's shocking to me. there are a couple others like that. >> really? >> i was not -- iowa's not the easiest place for that. >> i'm surprised about his number. >> that's why he's on the cover. >> social issues with rand paul, he's going to start to use the other factor real fast. >> by the way, michael can write. >> for sure. coming up, so many unanswered questions surrounding the ebola crisis.

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wallace. thomas is not happy about this game. >> yeah. he's been crying. >> has to get over it. it's over for him and the orioles. >> wow, that's so mean. >> go home, that's what happened. >> i love the orioles. >> put the storm windows on. that's what it is. >> you feel bad for oriole fans but how can you not love kansas city royals? >> baltimore, that story is incredible. most games won in the american league. and to go out in four straight. wow. >> that stadium in kansas city has been pretty quiet for the last 30 years. to see it that way last night, awesome. >> we're also going to go to florida. take a look a little dip of the debate. >> as you can see, the two candidates who were invited to take part in this debate right now are not stepping up on the stage. ladies and gentlemen, we have an extremely peculiar situation

right now. >> so what do you think? maybe it was ebola or isis or some sort of conflict i think? turns out, and we'll have this coming up when we get to it, but something about a fan. you know, some people need like the models fan. might work. swear to god. when you think about that. we'll have that coming up. first, of course, we will start with the question as to whether -- can hospitals handle the ebola crisis. it's the front page of "the atlanta journal-constitution." as one of atlanta's hospitals receives the second health care worker from texas diagnosed with ebola. also news this morning that miss vinson flew on a commercial plane with clearance from the cdc. she didn't have symptoms when she took a return frontier airlines flight from cleveland but did have a slight fever of 99.5 degrees. she called the cdc before boarding to see if she could

still fly. in a carefully worded response, a spokesman says vinson was not told that she could not fly. >> huh? >> double negatives. >> earlier in the day, cdc director thomas friedman said she should have never boarded the plane because she treated duncan. they're tracking down the plane's other passengers but says they're at very little risk. frontier says it was notified the patient may have been symptomatic and could have had symptoms while on board the flight. today on capitol hill, a top official from texas health be presbyterian hospital will apologize for mistakes made in the initial care of duncan. include leaving duncan in an open area of the emergency room for hours and nurses working without proper protective gear.

all right. we've got a lot of questions here and everybody has someone to criticize. i'd just like to figure out, what exactly is going on here? and is it actually contained? let's bring in medical correspondent for pbs' "need to know," emily senay. how could this woman have been allowed to fly? any possible scenario if you got that phone call you would let that person fly? anybody, a member of the medical community, say that person should fly? >> i don't think so. if she was symptomatic and reported her symptoms, she should not have flown. there's a lot of information about what happened in texas that would be incredibly helpful to all health care workers to know so we could learn from what's happened there on every level. whether it's what type of personal protective equipment the nurses had to how the person was triaged in the emergency room. these are all things we can learn from.

i think it's pretty obvious she should not have flown if she had symptoms. >> doctor, do you know how close we are to having national protocol standards for all hospital workers in all hospitals, big and small, given the ebola crisis? >> right, so the protocols are evolving. that is true. we've learned a lot from the texas experience. i know that all hospitals now are working to sort of double down on the type of protection and the protocols that they will use to encounter those patients. those are the two most important things in getting a handle on this. i think that we will. i think that understanding how to correctly identify a patient when they come in, no matter how they come into an institution, isolating that patient very, very quickly, and then making sure that you activate the infection control people who are the people who are going to manage this patient from there on out. it's really those people who are going to manage that patient once they've been admitted to the hospital who are at highest

risk. we are not. the average person is not. >> we didn't -- nicole, i'll let you take it to dr. senay. joe has been at the forefront of this argument. people were like, okay, you can't do that. clearly, if duncan did not come here, we would not have this problem here, correct? >> of course. you have political leaders in washington, john boehner's calling to shut down the flights. i think that will be the next debate. i don't understand how it's possible no one could have imagined this. i saw the movie "outbreak" nearly two decades ago and this is exactly how ebola spread and became, you know, a very dramatic national catastrophe. why couldn't the medical community have had a plan on the shelf for 20 years? >> well, there is a plan on the shelf. most of the protocols that already existed, if properly impleme implemented, would provide all the safety that we need. what we've got to do is double down on the training of staff and make sure that when we identify that person and,

really, that's the key first step, that all the proper protocols are followed. and if they are, the ability for hospitals to care for these patients is really quite high. now, having said that, it may be best that we start to identify specific places where these patients will be treated so people with experience handle these patients. and that's -- that's fine, we need to be flexible, we need to adjust as the information changes. we're not going to have a hollywood experience here. despite the hysteria that's surrounding it. that's not going to happen, i'm afraid to say. so you might want to -- if that's what you're interested in, stick with netflix. >> we can't say we couldn't have imagined this. it's -- >> well, they did imagine it. >> and not preparing -- >> i don't think that's true. >> we have nurses flying on

commercial flights. i think it's true we weren't prepared for it. >> we need to know specifically what happened in texas. either physician in the country. every nurse in the country will have something to learn from texas. that's going to be what i think inform us going forward. the plans were in place. i know at my institution, there were drills. there was plenty of information coming from the cdc. we know how it's spread. the science is here. the average american is not at risk for getting ebola. it's really the health care workers. and that's where the work needs to be done in an education and making sure we identify people right away. >> doctor, am i wrong in thinking that perhaps part of the issue here is that the health bureaucracy is just too big to draw a straight line from problem to solution? >> i don't think so. because the health bureaucracy at the end of the day -- the health bureaucracy is where you meet the patient.

and that is the nurses and the registrars and the people who will come in first contact with that person. if they are properly educated in the protocols and they know what to do and they've practiced it and they're comfortable with it, this will -- this should work. it shouldn't be a great -- it's not that complicated. it's very basic stuff. there's no technology that needs to be involved here. it's awareness. it's education. it's protocol. >> so stand by. for the second day in a row, president obama is canceling plans to attend campaign events so they can stay in washington to monitor the response to the outbreak. he met with members of his cabinet on wednesday about the crisis but the white house press secretary struggled when asked if homeland security adviser lisa monaco or anyone else for that matter is in charge of the federal response. >> i hate being nitpicky here, but she's coordinating the activities of all the government agencies who are themselves responsible for responding to specific areas of their own

expertise. so she's not overseeing -- >> who's in charge? >> she's not overseeing the construction of ebola transmission units in west africa, the department of defense is responsible for that. >> -- the overall response -- >> she's not responsible for coordinating the activities of the international community as they interact with local governments in west africa. usaid is in that effort. she's not diagnosing people in the field -- >> you're interrupting me because you feel you have a point to make but you understand my question -- >> the point i have to make is directly relevant -- >> you seem to be reluctant to say who's in charge of the federal response to ebola. >> there are individuals directly responsible for their line of responsibility and an individual at the white house who's responsible for coordinating the action, of those government agencies to make sure they're properly integrated. i think that is a completely reasonable management structure. >> mike, to your point, "morning joe" requested interviews for this morning on the show any time during this three-hour period of time to have an

official from the white house and four other federal agencies including the cdc, each department either declined or did not even respond. >> but in fairness, he has had press conferences every day. >> yes, but the story keeps getting worse, it's not getting better. inner er iterms of the cases w dealing with now, it keeps getting worse. we have a health care worker that was exposed to thomas eric duncan who was not quarantined, am i wrong, not quarantined -- >> this is the question i was trying to get at. you can't say we couldn't have imagined this. i mean, this has played out -- >> with a fever. >> right. this has played out in books and film. other place -- >> look, there's no question. >> in my white house, we had plans on the shelf for bird flu. avian flu is less contagious and less fatal. >> in your white house, katrina happened also. >> you want to go there -- >> i don't want to go there but -- >> -- answered a lot more easily than --

>> he did a heck of a job, brownie. >> listen, you want to relitigate that. >> let me just accept that comparison and say that in the -- we're what, week two of this, week two after katrina, there was a person in charge of the federal response. there were daily -- i mean, i don't understand why the white house isn't yet telling its story. i'm guessing the white house has a decent story to tell. lisa monaco is fantastic. if she is in charge of the federal response, she's a fantastic person to come on the show and explain what she's doing. >> let's separate two things. i think it's fair to say the cdc is in charge of the domestic response. he is the first to say mistakes have been made in dallas in particular. they're now pulling it together. >> the public can forgive that. but i think what the public can't forgive is why are there mistakes being made day after day after day. >> let's not -- let's not blow it up. we've had a couple mistakes. >> i'm not blowing it up. she was on a flight on sunday. >> she, she, one nurse.

>> plus the other passengers. where have they gone? >> now the question is, are they pulling it together and will they do better. >> if there were an ebola patient at mt. sinai, would you go to the emergency room there? >> probably not but what does that have to do? >> because in a lot of cities, there aren't 30 hospitals to choose from. it's a big deal. parents are terrified -- >> emily, is this hysteria or is this a legitimate argument because i'm hearing this everywhere. >> which is that people are afraid to go to the emergency room. >> that people are afraid to trust that the system knows what it's doing and along the way something correct is going to be done in terps of handling the people who have been exposed. >> that is evolving. we've clearly got to do better about getting the word out about what the science is because there is science on this. this is not a mystery. we know what to do. clearly, there's more work to be

done to educate those people who are going to come into contact with specific ebola patients and be very specific about what needs to be done. comparing it to hollywood scenarios is really not helpful. because i think we need to stick to the science. >> the public information piece of this. if the public isn't hearing from people like you and people would know the facts and know the science, then the public is going to what they've seen about ebola. that's my only point. >> in fairness, they have been out there. the best people have been out there. tom frieden's been out there. anthony fauci has been out there. they've really presented the facts of ebola, on how you get it and how to protect yourself from it. there have been mistakes, there's no question. but they will change their direction in terms of making sure that people get the education. for months before it was even a story here in this country, the cdc has been putting out very

clear information to all hospitals about what's happening in west africa, how to handle it here. some of that is evolving. but we'll get it. we'll be able to handle it. >> dr. emily senay, we appreciate it. >> you know what would be helpful? >> what would be helpful? >> if you would skip spending just one day's expenses on bombing iraq and provide materials and equipment for local hospitals and large hospitals -- >> by the way, while we're on this point, the cdc's budget has been cut heavily as part of all the sequestration and stuff going on in washington. >> still ahead on "morning joe," a view from above. one of the most accomplished astronauts shows us what it's like to look at the earth from space. lots of different incredible photographs. plus, bono apologizes to fans for u2's latest album. later, the women of the 2014

election cycle. but first, bill karins. >> morning, mika. a tropical storm heading for hawaii. the immediate threat is bermuda. the tropical storm force winds will arrive and it will be a rough friday afternoon with full-blown hurricane force conditions. here's gone zalo. this storm looks about as impressive as they get. the eye grew from eight miles in diameter to about 20 to 25 miles wide, so a larger storm means there's less margin of error. if it goes near bermuda or right over the top of it, really doesn't matter anymore, looks like they are going to get a direct hit. goes from a category 4, down to a category 3 over the top of bermuda. that's still a really bad blow. the last category 3 to hit bermuda did about $300 million worth of damage. that's the kind of storm system they could be dealing with. hopefully not but this is what it looks like. friday about 1:00 p.m. is when the hurricane winds arrive. it should be almost over the top

of bermuda by about 4:00 friday afternoon. now, let's take you to hawaii. it looks like a rain threat, flash flooding threat, but we're not going to see a lot of devastation there from the hawaii islands from ana. as it nears the big island late friday night, and then it's going to sit there and wonder. produce tremendous amounts of rainfall. remember, they got the mountains there in the hawaiian islands. that means the potential for flooding. speaking of the rain, we're almost done with it. four days of tracking this storm. new york city, you're just about done. and now the rain will go up to new england the rest of the day. of course that game is later on tonight and it does look like rain will be just ending as the game kicks off so the first half may be a little wet. the second half should be just fine.

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it's time to take a look at the morning papers. "the wall street journal," citizens in hong kong are outraged following the release of a video apparently showing police beating a protester amid pro democracy demonstrations. repeatedly kicking a protester while he's lying on the ground in plastic handcuffs. reports say he was beaten for four minutes and was later treated at the hospital for his

injuries. authorities say they're investigating the incident. >> the atlanta journal constitution. a record number of black candidates will appear on the ballots next month. at least 83 are running for the u.s. house. an all-time high. that includes mia love in utah looking to become the first black woman elected to congress. like senator, governor, or lieutenant governor. that's also a record. some are calling it a byproduct of president obama's administration. >> mike. >> we'll find out about that. the post standard. yogurt has been named the official snack of new york state. governor cuomo signed the legislation in a courageous move while also naming the empire state as the nation's top yogurt producer. how did this come about? the "daily show's" jon stewart. >> at the behest of a local fourth grade class attempting to

bring fourth into law an official honor for new york's vaunted yogurt industry. >> what exactly are we defining as a snack here? >> i think it's self-explanatory. you have breakfast, lunch and dinner. and then you have snacks. >> did you consider, say, the potato chip as a potential state snack? >> no. >> did the sponsor consider raisins as a potential official state snack? >> no. >> did the sponsor consider perhaps pretzels as the potential state snack? >> never. >> you elected officials at work. >> did they really -- that was actors from "the jon stewart show," right? they're hilarious. there's this guy kevin who's one of the writers, he must have done that. >> pretty close to reality. >> no, that wasn't real. don't worry, everybody. that's not our leaders. >> apparently the daily news still isn't other it. they're still wondering about

the chips. >> okay, stop, all right. the san jose mercury news. u2's bono is apologizing for failed promotion involved the band's latest record. many apple records were upset the album appeared in their libraries without their consent. the album was free but apple was forced to tell users how to delete it. >> people were not happy about that. >> bono gives you a gift, you accept it. it's great stuff. it's free. come on. >> then you get more data usage or something. >> oh, calm down. what's wrong with us? >> oh, excuse me. >> a gift. take it. right, joe? >> furious about the gift. how about the guardian, one of the rare siberian tigers released into the wild by russian vladimir putin is believed to have attacked a henhouse in china. the tiger was one of three cubs fitted with a tracking device and released into the wild by putin himself back in may.

reports broke late last week that the cub had crossed the chinese border and wandered into a nature preserve. the chinese media say the animal may have eaten as many as five chickens at the henhouse. russian officials, concerned over its safety, contacted officials who removed traps and set up cameras in hopes of locating it. >> where do you get this stuff? we'll see how the markets are doing. we'll go live to the new york stock exchange. first, more than any other election in u.s. history, women are dominating the headlines this election cycle. and "glamour's" cindy levy is here to break it all down. we'll be right back.

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yeah, photo shop hero. okay. the florida governor's race is among the tightist in the country, pitting former governor crist against governor scott. the debate centered on major issues, but before that, the

show downw showdown was delayed because of a fan crisis. take a look. >> as you can see, the two candidates right now are not stepping up on the stage. ladies and gentlemen, we have an extremely p lly pe lly pea kwal situation right now. we have been told that governor scott will not be participating. governor crist has asked to have a fan, a small fan, placed underneath the podium. the rules of the debate that i was shown by the scott campaign say that there should be no fan. somehow, there is a fan there and for that reason, ladies and gentleman, i am being told that governor scott will not join us

for this debate. >> i can't -- about seven minutes in, governor scott did take the stage. both campaigns dispute the agreement on the rules regarding having a fan on stage. according to -- are we doing this, really? are we going to hear from rick scott? crist had used a fan on stage in the past including in 2006 when another opponent also refused to take the stage because of it. >> what is up with that? >> what the heck? do we have rick scott, what he said? no? all right. we're going to get that. that's just -- thomas, ways tha the deal? >> i go nowhere without it. >> here with us now, the editor and chief of "glamour," cindy levy. the new issue is on the women to watch in this year's election. i would actually add the women's issues to watch. because i'm beginning to think they're picking up steam. first of all, midterm elections,

are they going to be a big year for women? >> there's not a record number of women running. this is not one of those great year of the women, which is a bit of a shame because we are stuck at 19 percent of congress being female and only 10% of this country's governors are female. the number of women who run has not increased. that's the bad news. the good news is we're seeing more young woman run. if you're going to be in congress, it takes a lot of time to assuccumulate the seniority be able to run committees so the earlier women can get in, the more leadership they're going to be able to accumulate. >> that's a great point. the rise of the poll cay the ca daughters. >> if you look at the kennedys, there's been a kennedy in congress every year but the last two years for the last 60 years. and they've all been men. right now, we're seeing a lot of political dynasties where young women are taking the reins. >> yeah, i like it. >> so the lack of female candidates on ballots for mayor,

governor, congress, whatever. how much is attributed to the fact that running for public office today in this country is a nightmare that very few people want to endure? >> criticizing the way a woman looks, it's ugly out there. >> i will say, i think that's changing. i think that's encouraging you have a record number of women under 36 would are running. i think increasingly young women are saying, i don't care if it's going to be hard, i'm going to do it anyway. >> so except you get into, you know, the whole gary hart issue and everything. it's going to happen. >> yes, it's true. listen, there are a number of races in the country where it's woman against a woman. things get just as ugly as when you've got two women running against each other. yes, it's tough, but i do think increasingly young women are willing to say i'm going to do this and you know what i'm not going to wait until after i've had my kids. there are a number of candidates who have had six children, five children, a lot of young kids at home. >> you drilled down on some

speck states as you look at this in the magazine, arizona, we can see the potential where we have two female vets. and then wendy rogers, who is 60, both republicans. >> and there are two female veterans already in congress. and what's interesting is you had all these women who went off and searched in the iraq war. the military has been a sort of leadership grooming ground for male candidates for a long time and now we're seeing women coming out of that. there are 11 females running in this year's cycle and i think that's really cool. >> a valuable voice when it comes to talking about the things senator gillibrand has been trying to talk about when it comes to dealing with problems within the military and sexual issues when it comes to sexual misconduct. >> trying to make the military more accommodating. also for women it's been tough to deal with that challenge. of how are you going to be firm on security issues? if you have a military

background, it's a lot easier to make that case. >> i would put on the table that no one is better prepared for this than a woman, head of household. >> the ghi is what matters to all voters right now, male and female. >> do you think equal pay is going to come up in that? >> yes, i think so, but even more than that, it is just straight up, employment, jobs, women want that opportunity. i think equal pay matters. whether you're a republican or democrat, you're going to come out with a different solution to how we get to different pay. fundamentally, we always -- >> iowa, the state of iowa, when we talk about the iowa caucuses, they've been woman free. >> but this year, they might so that could be real progress. >> exciting. cindy levy, thank you so much, great to see you. at one point yesterday, the dow took its biggest dive in three years. what was behind the volatile day and what can we expect the market to do when it opens

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it's important, by the way, to understand the value of women-owned businesses. you clearly do. you got that from your mom years ago. >> years ago. my mom was widowed age 38 with four girls to raise. i'm the youngest of four girls. she was a nurse. she kept us together with her training. she said to my sisters and myself, girls, it is not just about an education, learn how to do something. i went straight into the beauty industry. the salon industry when i left high school. and immigrated here in 1983 with a suitcase in one hand and a beauty school diploma in the other. my boyfriend and i, now my husband, we boot strapped up the company with a $14,000 self-funding never taken outside loan, never given away a piece of the company. when we emigrated here, we didn't even have a bank account. we had to literally figure out how to do it. the salon industry puts more women into business than any

other. it is an economic powerhouse for women. women own 64% of all the salons in the industry. as opposed to 30% of segments for women in business. >> now you have a nonprofit fite, funding 50,000 loans to women entrepreneurs so far. so you've taken your mom's message and doubled down, tripled down. >> that's right. we launched fite and we funded loans to women around the worrell. >> how do these women find you? how do you find them? how do they get the loan? >> we have a partnership with the largest online funding group. and in 2010, we formed this partnership. we called it an online, on shelf partnership. we have all products on shelf in 48,000 salons around the world. 86 countries. >> all of it made in the usa. >> every single product made here in the united states.

with it, we engaged our entire supply chain. we said, we want to fund the loans. we want everyone to hear the stories of each of the women going to receive the funding. we have an online platform, joinfight.org. we talk about tell us why we fight. tell us what you're fighting for. we post the stories of the women. you can go and look at them. you talk about why they've used it and what they're doing with their business. >> what's more exciting for you, the changing face of the beauty industry or the actual success that you get to pay it forward now? >> the greatest success and excitement for me is the fact that our industry, a salon industry, is an industry of women entrepreneurs. no one's talking about that, saying this is a blueprint of how to empower women economically. hillary clinton herself announced our commitment and

said how much she talks about it in job one. this is really sort of the job creation mechanism i think is entrepreneurship. our industry knows how to do it. this is such an exciting opportunity for me to have -- >> how does someone get a hold of you and your organization? >> joinfite.org. you can also get to it through the dermatalogic website. tell us your story and tell us why you care. >> so it will not have alcohol in it? >> we were one of the first companies who left that out. >> yeah, get it out. >> okay, you've already done that. thank you so much. it's great to meet you. it's been quite a week on wall street. yesterday, the dow at one point plummeted 460 points. its biggest tumble in three years. let's go to cnbc's sara eisen at

the new york stock exchange this morning. >> the wild swings are back in a big way. you've got the headlines on ebola. that's certain lay fact they're doesn't help sentiment now. there's some serious concerns about europe heading back into recession and also dealing with inflation which is an ugly word for the trading community. you have concerns here for the united states. yesterday, retail sales number actually came in negative. we'll see if the u.s. consumer can hold up. given everything that's going on. there's still geopolitical fears with isis. all of this is leading to the comeback of 100-plus point swings in the dow. it was the most turbulent day on wall street since back in 2011. when everyone was very scared. it does look like the selling is

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let's talk about how to brush your teeth in space. standard toothbrush. let me get a bottle of water. there's a nice bottle of water. floating in the ends. toothbrushes soak up water nicely. so now i have a nice wet toothbrush. squeeze a little on. not too much. because you're going to have to clean it up later. so there's my toothpaste on my toothbrush. it's wet. it's ready to go. it's loaded. brush my teeth just like normal. i've got a mouth full of toothpaste. i've got a dirty toothbrush. what do i do? i just swallow the toothpaste. >> oh, no, no, no, ah!

that was one of the nearly 100 videos retired colonel chris hadfield has recorded in space. he is the former commander of the international space station which makes him really cool. even though he swallows his toothpaste. the author of the new book featuring incredible photography from outer space. you're here around the world in 92 minutes. how many times have you been around the world, sir? >> somebody counted 2,593 times around the planet. >> who can say that? >> a really rare human experience. >> incredible. this book is incredible. >> thank you. >> i think in so many ways it gives people a perspective that we often forget. tell us about it. >> i really wanted it to be as if -- as if we were sitting by the window, two people, and i wanted to show you what to look at. let's go around the world once together. let me show you what's coming up. and then try and choose my favorite 150 photos in just a book to hold in your hands. >> hard to do that.

>> we've curated a few favorites starting with manhattan at day and then at night to show the side by side comparison. it's amazing to look at this. and beautiful at the same time. >> it's awe st study of the nat with the place with the hudson and how it works together. then the human interaction and how we choose to live. you can see central park really clearly. the eruption of light. >> we see d.c. >> this view of florida, havana, to the nation's capital. >> to the himalayas. >> you can see where india's crashed up into asia and just ground it up into mountains. >> venice. >> bizarre. red tiled roofs like a fish floating in the sea connected by a little umbilical of road that carries to it. >> utah, the great salt lake. >> this looks like a wolf to me. >> yes, it does.

>> you can see the eye and the snout. >> just keep your eyes open and the world is just giving a gift of visual delights the whole time around. >> detroit, michigan/windsor, ontario. >> the way the the two countries have developed and the farmland. the river in the springtime carrying all the sediment down. it's like some pastel art drawn between the two and yet that's just how our world looks. >> here is a picture of the australian coast. part of it is so barren, so empty, yet so filled with light. did it strike you in all of your revolutions around the earth the differences in the earth that we live on? bright, dark, populated, unpopulated. >> the first time around, you're looking for stuff you know. hey, look at that, i recognize that. the fifth or the 20th or the

1,000th time around, you really start to see what's truly there and you see those contrasts of nature itself. but then the contrast of how we're choosing to live in the places. it's more and more interesting. like you're developing a mutual understanding as you're looking at the world around and around. i've taken a lot of pictures. i've tried to get the 150 best so people could really get a feel of where we all live together. >> would it strike the casual observer, the transference of resources from parts of this globe that are dark as you fly over them to the manhattan lights, the energy propelled from places which are rather poor, i would imagine, in some cases, to places which are affluent and lit? >> most of the word is either water or uninhabited. you're actually struck by the opposite. the huge parts of the world that are dark, that is just nature. we don't normally see those anywhere except a spaceship. part of the idea of you are here

is to get a complete global sense of what the world really looks like and not just focus on the heavily populated areas we all tend to live in. >> the book is "you are here" around the world in 92 minutes. colonel, thank you so much. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe." dad, i know i haven't said this often enough, but thank you. thank you mom for protecting my future. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa auto insurance could be one of them. if you're a current or former military member or their family, get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life.

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we're learning turkey is now going to let the u.s. use its air bases as the base for launching the air strikes in iraq and syria. >> turkey, i always knew, the one county you could always count on, good old otto, man, turk. i knew you guys would come through -- what's that, really, one daydenying reports the u.s. can use its bases for air strikes. >> can't use the bases. what the hell, turkey? you know we're all about the base. ♪ about the base ♪ about the base no rebels. we're all about the -- time to talk about what we learned today. thomas is going to explain our color choices.

they're important. >> today is spirit day. and you'll probably notice a lot of people wearing purple today. hold this purple pen. you are now spirited. it's to promote anti-bullying campaigns for lgbt youth. coming up at 2:00, a twitter chat with sarah. you can reach m me @thomasaroberts. >> @thomasaroberts. what did you learn today? >> i learned that the admiral, dean of the fletcher school of diplomacy at tufts and former head of military, head of nato, speaks the truth when he says turkey has to get on board and we have a bunch of reluctant allies in our fight against isis. >> i'll make a prediction about what we learned today and say i think we'll get something really clear, get major clarity from the top down on ebola coming out of washington today. that does it for us. if it's way too early, it's time

for "morning joe." now it's time for "the daily rundown." craig melvin is live from dallas. have a great day. up in the air. the ebola patient who flew from cleveland to dallas and back is now in treatment this morning. president obama cancels a slate of midterm slumping to focus on the federal response. the cdc tries to answer a growing list of questions. on the campaign trail, hillary clinton stumps for allison grimes in kentucky. does mcconnell have reason to feel good despite the high punches hitting him? also, fanfare. charlie crist plays it cool. as rick scott gets a little hot under the collar over crist's craving for a fan on his feet last night. it led to one of the most bizarre debate starts in