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for "morning joe." now it's time for "the daily rundown." craig melvin is live from dallas. have a great day. up in the air. the ebola patient who flew from cleveland to dallas and back is now in treatment this morning. president obama cancels a slate of midterm slumping to focus on the federal response. the cdc tries to answer a growing list of questions. on the campaign trail, hillary clinton stumps for allison grimes in kentucky. does mcconnell have reason to feel good despite the high punches hitting him? also, fanfare. charlie crist plays it cool. as rick scott gets a little hot under the collar over crist's craving for a fan on his feet last night. it led to one of the most bizarre debate starts in recent memory.
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it is thursday, october 16th, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." the fight against ebola in this country is intensifying. here in dallas, the second nurse to test positive for ebola from human to human contact is waking up in an atlanta hospital. she walked both on to and off the medical flight and into a waiting ambulance last night. she's the one in the yellow there, wearing that hazmat suit. she walked from that ambulance into the isolation unit at emory hospital. just days after duncan's death, vinson flew from dallas to cleveland to visit her family and fiance in the akron area to plan an upcoming wedding. monday, she boarded a frontier airlines flight with 132 passengers on board for the flight back to dallas. even though she had a temperature of 99.5. the head of the cdc said vinson should have never been on that flight. >> we will, from this moment
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forward, ensure that no other individual who is being monitored for exposure undergoes travel. >> in an exclusive interview with nbc news, a nurse at texas health presbyterian hospital said the hospital did not properly prepare the staff to handle ebola. and she expressed concern about a gap in her protective suit. >> in fact, i'll just be honest, i threw a fit. i just -- i just couldn't believe it, you know, and the second week of an ebola crisis at my hospital, the only gear they're offering us at that time and up until that time is gear that is allowing our necks to be uncovered. >> now, responding to earlier similar accusations by a nurse's union, released a statement that says, our hospital followed the cdc guidelines and sought additional guidance and clarity.
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in just a few hours, the head of the cdc will testify on capitol hill along with the head of the nih and the top official from texas health presbyterian. the doctor plans to tell congress, quote, unfortunately, in our initial treatment of mr. duncan, despite our best intentions and a highly skilled medical team, we made mistakes. we did not correctly diagnose his symptoms as those of ebola. we are deeply sorry. president obama canceled all travel plans yesterday. he trcanceled all travel plans today as well to meet with advisers to talk about the response to the virus. >> we're reviewing exactly what we know about what's happened in dallas and how we're going to make sure that something like this is not repeated. and that we are monitoring, supervising, overseeing, in a much more aggressive way exactly what's taking place in dallas
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initially and making sure that the lessons learned are transmitted to hospitals and clinics all across the country. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez has the very latest on the situation in atlanta where two americans are being treated for ebola. let's start with the latest on vinson. what can you tell us about her condition? >> vinson was described as ill but clinically stable. that's what she was described as before she made the trip to atlanta. since she arrived, emory officials aren't saying what her condition is, citing patient privacy. she is at emory, in their isolation unit, one of four such isolation units specialized to treat ebola in the country. you may remember, this isolation unit was the same one that successfully treated dr. kent brantly and nancy rightbol.
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they are still treating a third unidentified w.h.o. worker who was brought over from sierra leone. that person released a statement yesterday, saying that he planned to be released in the next few days, that he was improving. em emory's isolation unit can hold a maximum of three people in this unit. right now, we're waiting to hear what the condition might be for amber vinson. >> president obama says he wants the government to take a more aggressive approach to monitoring ebola. he's skipping a political trip. he's staying at the office to oversea the government's respond to the ebola crisis. today, the president was supposed to be included at a speech in rhode island at a fund-raiser. that got canceled as well.
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nbc's kristen welker joins me live. what exactly is the president going to be doing today at the white house? do we know? >> we know that president obama will hold meetings today. he's going to follow up on that high-level meeting he had with his cabinet secretaries yesterday, which he did announce a more aggressive response by the u.s. federal government. particularly, he said s.w.a.t. teams will be dispatched within 24 hours of a patient being diagnosed with ebola. he called for better communication with state and local officials. tom frieden will testify, after acknowledging there have been mistakes and missteps. among the questions he will likely need to answer, are hospitals across the country prepared to deal with another case of ebola? does there need to be an ebola czar? something a lot of lawmakers are calling for. does there need to be a travel
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ban put into effect? the white house has said a travel ban is not necessary. and has also said a czar is not necessary. but undoubtedly, those will be among the topics of conversation on capitol hill today. president obama continuing to say he has confidence in tom frieden and an outbreak in the united states is very unlikely. craig. >> kristen welker from the white house, thank you. dallas county commissioners are announcing travel restrictions on any health care worker who helped treat duncan before he died of ebola. the tom administrative official here in dallas county is leading the county's response to ebola. let's start with the travel restriction. what does that include? how is it going to be enforced? >> well, i actually put restrictions on people admit night last night. the commissioners want to give
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me extraordinary powers. i'm appreciative of their support. the governor and i are talking about that today because there are civil liberty issues in that. and if i need those, then i will use them. i'm just not sure i'm going to be declaring a state of disaster at this point. but i'm going to listen to their concerns on the local and state level. we're getting done what we need to do to keep people safe. we will restrict travel of health care workers. >> these are the workers who came in contact with duncan? >> that's correct. >> we're going to restrict the commercial aircraft?it, on >> on mass transit, commercial aircraft, they can't leave the county. we're also going to -- these are hometown health care heroes. these aren't people who want to break protocol. they just need to know what the protocols are. we are going to get them some nice living accommodations if they choose to separate from their family during this time here at the hospital.
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>> how is this going to be enforced, judge? >> well, it's enforced, you know, there are laws -- >> is this the honor system or someone watching these folks? >> these folks are being monitored and they're being watched but, again, these are hometown health care heroes. they're not criminals. they're not interested in breaking protocol. amber got on that plane because the protocols weren't given to the hospital to give to her and she had the foresight to call the cdc and they told her it was okay to fly. this is not our health care professional's fault that she got on that plane. >> you've been fairly critical of the cdc over the past few days. >> i'm not critical of the cdc. let's stay focused on what we have here. we had a misstep. the cdc was honest about it. >> we've had a number of missteps. >> they've owned up to that. we've got to fix the missteps. it's one team, one fight.
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we've got to move forward. i don't want to demonize these hometown health care heroes that are afraid they might have ebola and are, you know, dealing with two of their own who have ebola. >> how real is the possibility that we are going to see at least one, if not more, cases of ebola come out of this hospital? today, tomorrow, next few days? >> that is a very real possibility. i'm preparing my emergency managers and our team for that. i'm in regular consultation with the white house and others about that possibility. and the doctors here. and we need to steel ourselves for that. but what people need to understand is these are 75 people who are being closely monitored. if you haven't come into contact with the bodily fluids of eric duncan, you don't have ebola. >> my understanding is this hospital has the capacity for three ebola patients, is that accurate? >> that's right. that's why we're sending people to emory and nebraska. >> that's why vinson was sent?
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>> yes, we don't really want to see this hospital have more than one active ebola case at any time. because as we bring cases in, i need those beds open. if we get two, we need to send one. >> if there is another case here, that person is going to be sent to either emory or nebraska, one of the other hospitals? >> or nih. we have to contingency levels now. i'm putting a third one in today. >> how would you characterize the level of fear here in the dallas area right now? >> the people of dallas county are strong people. they're resilient people. 99.5% of them are going on about their daily lives and are in prayerful support for people affected by this. you have a few crazy people everywhere. but by and large, i'm proud of the people of dallas county. >> thank you so much. i know you've got a lot going on. do appreciate it. judge jenkins, the county executive here in dallas. much more ahead from the ground
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here in dallas to the airport, stepping up screening today, to capitol hill, where members of congress will address tougher actions to contain ebola. also, we'll turn the politics after the break. hillary clinton's big push for candidate allison grimes. we are hearing a lot of talk about ebola on the campaign trail. first, a look at today's planner. as you just heard from kristen welker, the president will remain at the white house to address the ebola response starting with secretary hagel at 11:00 a.m. you're watching "the daily rundown" here on msnbc. oats go! wow! go power oats! go! go power! yayyyy!
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bluegrass state by a whopping 36 points. last night, she was back on behalf of democratic allison grimes, urging voters to, quote, put another crack in the glass ceiling by electing grimes to the senate. both democrats made a pitch to women voters, calling herself a clinton democrat. grimes blasted republican mitch mcconnell. >> he said why would we trade someone who's been there in d.c.? part of the beltway? for a woman he believes would sit on the back of the bench? as i looked him in the eye, i told him no kentucky woman will ever sit in the back of the bench. i will be heard. personally, i'm always a little confused when people in high positions oppose the minimum wage. do you know who holds most of those minimum wage jobs? women. and many of those women are single moms. a lot of them are working two, three jobs just to keep their
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families afloat. don't you think they need a little understanding and support? don't you think they deserve a senator who will fight to give them the help they need? don't you think that would be allison? >> msnbc correspondent kacie hunt is live in louisville, kentucky, this morning. kacie, they've known grimes since she was 14 years old. good friends with her dad. last night, hillary clinton was there. how much can all of this help allison grimes in kentucky? >> well, she's hoping it can help her a lot. as we sort of discussed here, grimes, more than anything, wants to be viewed as a clinton democrat and not as an obama democrat. the landscape here is tough for allison grimes.
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the campaign committee isn't up on the air any more. that sends the message they're more focused on other states that they don't necessarily think they can win here. although they are investing in the ground game. if grimes is going to pull this out, she has to distance herself as much as possible from what's going on right now and hillary clinton helps her do that. >> grimes is not the only one reaching out to women. women should vote for him because he helped expel the senator back in the '90s, for folks who remember that. what were your takeaways from that? >> held an event appealing to women in london, kentucky. i was struck by his pitch. he said, you should vote for me because i pushed to expel packwood, who was accused of harassing ten women in the '90s. he said when sexual behavior wasn't seen as a huge proshgs i acted on it.
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democrats will say mcconnell silenced them over packwood. there's a little dispute over the history. i asked mcconnell whether he would extend that criticism to bill clinton who ran into his own troubles in the '90s. mcconnell wouldn't go that far. he said i don't have any particular comments about clinton's behavior. >> interesting last night to hear hillary clinton go after mitch mcconnell to go after health care specifically. what was all that about? >> yes. in some ways, hillary clinton was fine-tuning potentially a national message. she went after mcconnell specifically on the exchange website that was built as part of the affordable care act, as part of obamacare. he sort of tried to have it both ways a little bit. he said obamacare should be repealed. hillary clinton went after him for that. >> all right, kacie hunt on the ground for us in louisville,
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thank you. a year ago, we expected health care to be the key issue in this campaign. now in the final day, it is taking center stage, but not in the way that pundits predicted. candidates are wielding the threat of ebola on the trail to score political points. it came up in kansas last night. with three-term republican senator pat roberts and independent greg orman clashed in their debate, trading blows on immigration, abortion and the ebola crisis. roberts called for a travel ban. >> the ebola epidemic, along with isis, shows you how we should really secure the border and not be granting amnesty. >> we should suspend air travel with west africa. for the time being. until the crisis is contained. this goes back to sort of a crisis in leadership. senator roberts has come back and made strong statements about ebola. it came out the other day when he was in washington last month, he skipped a hearing on the
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ebola virus. >> we have a crisis of leadership all right with regard to this whole situation. i think the administration, especially the president, again, has been two steps behind and asleep at the wheel. >> meanwhile, in colorado, swapped charges in their final debate. >> this is a difference between congressman garner and me. he's voted to cut cdc spending. we're not going to beat ebola by cutting back the cdc. we ought to listen to the health care professionalings. if they believe we ought to close our board borders, let's listen to them. senators and congressmen shouldn't be making those decisions. >> we need an immediate travel ban going into effect now. not tomorrow but now. look, we lack a strategy to deal with the ebola virus. i think that's been very clear in the news. that's unacceptable.
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>> garner takes a rare break from the trail today to participate in a house hearing on ebola in washington. republican candidates from georgia, david perdue, would called it competence at the highest levels. brown said it's the latest example of how the white house is putting us all at risk. to ernst calling for travel restrictions or a total travel ban from the west african countries who have been hit hard by ebola. to new hampshire's scott brown, linking ebola to immigration and the border. >> that's one of the reasons why i have been so adamant about closing our border. because if people are coming in from normal channels, can you imagine what they can do through our porous border? >> even former presidential candidate mitt romney stumping for brown in new hampshire
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yesterday, even he got into the ebola politics game. >> why hasn't the president addressed what we can do to keep our nation safe? why hasn't he talked about closing the borders with those countries who have extensive ebola spreading across their population? >> nbc political editor mark murray joins me. it's the politics of fear. it's irresponsible. but will it work? >> we've seen the politics of fear work in the past. in 2002, right after the 9/11 attacks, that was a dominant story. republicans were able to capitalize right after 9/11. 2004, presidential election was largely fought on the politics of fear. and this honestly is terrain where the republican party's a lot more comfortable in having debates with the democratic party. particularly when the democrats were in control of the administration. they're in control of handling. i mean, you make the very good point that often engaging in the politics of fear is irresponsible and of course the message coming from ebola, isis,
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border, is one that's coming from republicans right now. but to score quick political points when there is so much engagement from the public on ebola right now. our nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows it's 97% of america has been following this story. that is something you can't exploit. >> mark, i want to turn to something else now. we've dubbed it fan gate already. six very awkward minutes last night. down in florida. take a look at what happened. >> ladies and gentlemen, we have an extremely peculiar situation now. we have governor charlie crist. governor rick scott. we have been told that governor scott will not be participating in this debate. somehow, there is a fan there. and for that reason, ladies and gentlemen, i am being told that
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governor scott will not join us for this debate. [ crowd booing ] >> the shot of the fan really makes it. it was like an "snl" skit, mark murray. >> it was one of the craziest moments we've ever seen in debates. of course, debates often have a lot of negotiating points on ways to be allowed. can notes be there? how many seconds do you have for rebuttal, et cetera? >> even as somebody violates it, you keep on going through. this is a big problem for rick scott. because it made him seem like he lost his cool, that charlie crist was using a fan, that he didn't come out. rick scott campaign pointed out that they were confused. that they didn't deliberately try not to get on the debate stage. but the perception is very damaging to rick scott. it's worth pointing out the debates have been a very
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interesting issue in florida in the past and this was a very big issue last night. >> mark murray, thank you. up next, lawmakers are calling for tougher action to contain ebola, including travel bans on west africa. republican congressman tim mi y murphy will join me live ahead of the congressional hearing he will be leading today. we'll also learning more about the nurses from the cleveland clinic. also from metro health medical center among those on the frontier airlines flight with amber vinson. a press briefing will start just moments from now in cleveland. that and much, much more when tdr comes back in three minutes. to help entertain some friends at the beach. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time.
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dominic, what's going on here? why are we seeing these big swings in the market, what's behind it? >> what's interesting about what's happening, it's a confluence. a convergence, if you will, of so many different factors. you've got concerns about the economy not just here in the u.s. but all over the world, especially in europe. there are still concerns about the economy in places like china and other places in asia. then you've got earnings season kicking off this time around. we just want to know whether or not companies can make the kinds of profits they want. all of those things are helping to contribute to the volatility. >> dow's down about 10% now since september. is this a sign we are in for a major downturn? here's a look at the markets. all of the indices pointing south. >> if you look at the way the markets are working right now, we haven't had any kind of a 10% pullback or greater since 2011.
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that was the last time we saw it. back then, we had things like the budget impasse. we were worried about the sequester. we were worried about the u.s. credit rating being downgraded. all of those things contributed to that decline. so a lot of traders say we were overdue for a pullback of this size. what's more disconcerting this time around is the idea that we haven't seen these huge, you know, triple digit swings on multiple days during the rest of the market top. so a lot of traders are saying this might be one of those battlegrounds where we could be due for an even bigger pullback to the downside. >> stocks have opened lower. dominic chu from cnbc. thank you. from the economy to politics now. as ebola fears spread, lawmakers all over the country are chiming in. some want the administration to take tougher action. like imposing travel bans on countries in west africa. speak boehner said it should be strongly considered. senator john thune, bill shoester, say a bill is timely.
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even democratic senator bill nelson pushed for a ban, calling the situation a matter of national security. against that backdrop, house lawmakers are convening the latest hearing to focus on the ebola outbreak. it will take place this afternoon. in prepared testimony from cdc director tom frieden, he will insist this outbreak can and will be stopped. dr. fauci from the nih will tell congress that two ebola vaccines are headed for clinical testing. pennsylvania republican congressman tim murphy will be running that hearing. he joins me live now from the hill. congressman, let's just start with your thoughts, your personal thoughts, on the travel ban. how far would that go to help? >> i think it would be very helpful to have a travel ban, for people coming from the hot zones in western africa. we also have to recognize that u.s. citizens have a right to
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come back ton the united states. but upon their return, i do not want to just rely upon a quick fever screen or a quick question from people from customs. i believe such persons should undergo some travel restriction, perhaps quarantine. the issue is in convenience. the alternative is deadly virus spread. i think we should err on the side of inconvenience. >> do you feel that tom frieden, the head of the cdc, that frieden and other officials have been forthcoming, have been as forthcoming as they need to be about this country's level preparedness? >> well, i think there was some missteps made and assumptions of our country's level of preparedness and assumptions can get you in a lot of trouble, especially when they're false assumpti assumptions. they did not have the right
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clinical garb and gown to wear. other hospitals may not have that levelle. they're improving that now. we only have a couple centers in this country which are capable of handling this high level of a virus, deadly virus. there's a lot in flux here and growing. i believe dr. frieden is telling us, based upon his assumptions to go through, but those have to be modified. >> one of the issues i understand you're going to raise during the hearing is whether the fda can make experimental ebola treatments available on an emergency basis, is that right? >> yes. there are standard guidelines the fda has in terms of human clinical trials. this is not something we can wait two or three years for. if there are some things that have some promise to it, we could be working on vaccines, working on other elements. there's no cure for this disease. there's treatments in terms of giving people fluids and electrolytes. when you have a 70% mortality rate with this virus, we have to advance this much quicker. asking the fda to advance these
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quicker is going to be part of our concern. >> you also raised some concerns recently, i understand, about our troops who are in west africa right now. fighting ebola on the front lines. what do we know about the precautions that are being taken to protect our service members? >> that's precisely the question we want to ask. some service members, even though they're not in direct contact with ebola patients, for example, building some clinics and some other treatment areas. we have to nonetheless decide what happens if they are exposed. what happens if our military does develop symptoms of ebola. we do not have the capability currently of bringing more than one or two people at a time with a multiday turnaround. that is not going to be sufficient if a number of our service members do contract ebola. so we have to make sure that the military's better prepared at handling this and that's going to be some of our questions today as well. >> congressman murphy who is going to be running that ebola hearing this afternoon.
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congressman, thank you. a news conference has just started in cleveland where we are expecting to learn a little bit more about the nurses who were aboard that frontier airlines flight. let's listen in. >> she is the chair of the infection control committee here at metro health. she will take your questions one at a time. >> good morning. any questions? >> -- because people, you know, they hear that someone with ebola was up in this region. and people have i think different tendencies whether to shut down or stay at home, i'm going to keep my kid home from school. want schools shut down. put this into context for people who are not sure what to think. >> i think it's understandable that people have anxiety. i also really want to make it clear that it's a point in time that there is no reason for
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concern. so ebola is not that easily transmissible. you have to have direct contact with somebody who's sick or with their bodily fluids. so it's not something that's going to be spread just by going through the airport, where that person was, or on the same airplane really isn't enough for it to spread. it's not airborne. a lot of the steps that are being taken are because we know that people are really concerned and worried. it's really to try to decrease some of the worry and fear. right now, the message that people in cleveland and surrounding areas should know that they're safe and that they really have no reason to be concerned at this point in time. >> so we've been listening in to this news conference. in cleveland. 13 nurses were on that october
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10 flight from dallas to cleveland with amber vinson. who went to northeast ohio to see family outside of akron, we're told. she's in the process planning a wedding. she returns to dallas on another frontier airlines flight. hospitalized the following morning with a fever. that news conference that's ongoing right now, five cleveland clinic nurses were aboard that flight. a total of eight metro health nurses also on that flight. the cleveland clinic nurses are going to remain on leave for 21 days. they're going to remain on leave for 21 days, paid leave. they're going to be self-monitoring, we're told. we're going to continue to watch this news conference. we'll take a quick break on "the daily rundown." we'll be right back. turn the trips you have to take,
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nbc's tom costello join us from dulles outside washington, d.c. in virginia there. any idea at this point how it's going so far? >> here's the plan. we're going to see screenings picked up today here at washington dulles, at chicago o'hare, at newark, as well as atlanta. you combine those four with jfk airport in new york. you've got the five airports that handle about 95% of people coming from west africa. some coming directly. some others coming through other cities like brussels, for example, in europe, and then transiting into a major airport like this. customs and border patrol is working with the cdc and also with the coast guard. those personnel will be on duty at these airports. they will bring aside anybody who is coming from west africa, check their temperatures, give them a questionnaire, ask about their health, ask about their travel history. do any know anybody who's had ebola? have they been exposed to ebola? have they had any sickness at
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all over the course of the last week or so. then, if they're clear, if they don't have any symptoms, they'll be allowed to move on. they'll be told, listen, if you develop any systmptom, contact e cdc immediately. if anybody is showing symptoms, or become sick in flight, or whatever, they will be pulled over by the personnel and quarantined. at that point, the state health department brought in. the hope is they can keep anybody coming from west africa and who might have an ebola contagion, keep them from coming to the u.s. but as you know, this is fraught with political upheaval right now. people calling for, on both the right and the left, calling for a travel ban on people coming from west africa. >> really quickly, there continues to be a bit of confusion over the cdc's do not board list. this do not board list. what more can you tell us about the existence of this list and
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whether we know anyone who's on the list now. >> yeah, this is similar to the homeland security's watch list. there is a list the cdc has kept for the better part of ten years. essentially, a list of individuals who might pose a risk to the public health should they board an aircraft. it is enforced by the tsa and customs and border patrol. they can prohibit somebody from flying if they're aware that somebody is a potential risk. they have to know the person's name, the dob, a whole variety of pieces of information to put them on that list. if they were aware that somebody of a special name is traveling from west africa who had ebola and he somehow had gotten through the screening in west africa, they might put him on that list and stop him from ever coming into the country. this is something, though, you'll see this expansion of this program as they try to figure out how to enforce it more rigorously. >> tom costello from dulles for us this morning, thanks, as
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always, sir. from that big story to this one. the fight against isis. u.s. air power is helping the kurds hold on to kobani. air strikes have hit isis targets around the city nearly 40 times since monday night. the united states said hundreds of isis fighters have been killed. and kurdish fighters say that's helped them regain some territory there. the pentagon's john kirby said wednesday that kobani could still fall. meanwhile, over in iraq, militants appeared to be gaining momentum there. ahead of the international anti-isis coalition, general john allen says the group has made, quote, substantial gains in iraq, especially in the anbar province. nonetheless, u.s. officials say their plans are not changing. >> the strategy's still sound. but you don't judge the success of a strategy based on a day or a week or even several weeks. we are -- we believe and we've said it before that we're in
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this -- we all need to be in this for a matter of years. >> our guest is the director of the research program at the washington institute for near east policy. the author of the book "the rise of turkey." good to see you again, thank you for being with me. how would you judge this strategy against isis so far? >> i think it's a strategy where the united states is really trying to get in more turkish buy-in. the turks are hesitant. they see isis as a threat. they really would like to see every policy step they're taking in syria serve their ultimate goal, which is ousting the assad regime. they wanted an american commitment to see boots on the ground. that's not happening. now they're going for other buy-ins, which they want to see u.s. support for safe havens in northern syria that would protect civilians in rebel-held areas so that could ultimately undermine the assad regime, then bring the turks in as a
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counterpart in the fight against isis. short of that, i think what washington is doing right now is increasing air strikes to not allow the kurdish enclave to fall. this enclave, kobani, strategically is not important but it has a humanitarian element. their misery is in front of our eyes because this town is on the border with turkey where there are a lot of international media. it would be embarrassing for the united states to let this enclove fall, as well as the turks. they're actually turning back into baghdad because they're realizing they're losing in syria so they want to make gains in iraq. >> but it seems turkey's going back in forth. then it seemed like turkey would grant the u.s. access to an air base. now it says there's no deal. what's going on? why the back and forth? >> that's correct. the turks are playing a game of brinksmanship. they are trying to increase the stakes. they want to help but they don't
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want to commit, obviously, before they see a comprehensive plan to undermine the assad regime which is their primary objective in syria. i think what we're going to see is turkish/u.s. cooperation behind the scenes but on the public side you're going to see some sort of hesitation on behalf of the turks until they get a more stronger u.s. commitment. especially because they want such commitment to serve their ultimate goal, so they want to establish safe havens which would protect rebel-held areas and undermine the assad regime. also another game they're playing which is not related to u.s. policy, they're fighting this group called the ppk which is considered terrorists in turkey. nevertheless, they don't want the ppk to emerge from this conflict strengthened. the ppk has control over this enclave, this town, kobani, that's under attack by isis, so i think the turks actually want the group to weakened. they want the group to come to turkey for assistance,ing begg
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for assistance so the turks can dictate their own terms in the ongoing peace talks. that's a game united states doesn't want to get involved. i think the u.s. has so far listened to turkish sensitivit sensitivities on this issue. >> thank you. up next, i'm joined by an official on the front lines of the ebola response. why you might see so many friends and co-workers wearing purple today, that's because it's spirit day, a day to show support for lbgt youth and take a stand against bullying as well. thomas roberts will host a twitter chad with glaad president and ceo sarah kate ellis. join in with #spiritday. there it is on your screen. we'll be right back. for over. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real.
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we are also watching some storms both in the atlantic and the pacific today. bermuda could be in the path of a direct hit from the storm. a category 4 hurricane is expected to be a category 2 or 3 when it passes over the island tomorrow. in hawaii, what is now tropical storm anna could be a hurricane by the time it hits the island tomorrow. the big island is under a tropical storm watch right now. the big concern for the big island is heavy rain. back to our top story again here, the latest on ebola in dallas, while nurse amber vinson is being treated here in atlanta, her home in texas is being cordoned off. and national correspondent kate snow has more. it want to go back to something that was said back here in dallas. this idea if there is another ebola patient the person will
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immediately be transferred? >> probably so because you remember what he said to you, there is more capacity here but he believes it really should be only one patient with ebola treated here at one time. he believes that is sort of what would be the most -- how do i say this? the best use of their resources would be to have one ebola patient here and not more than that. now, this raises a big question, craig, because we've done the math and looked at how many places in the united states can actually handle ebola? how many paces are equipped. we have emory university in atlanta, there are two patients there already. they can handle one more, nebraska, they can handle two, they could handle one more. and nih in bethesda, maryland, could take two, missoula, montana could handle two. they are handled with the most specialized care, an ebola
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patient. the cdc would tell you every hospital in the country is preparing to handle the ebola patients. so every hospital should have some ability. but as we know from the experience, a lot of things fell through the cracks it could appear. >> and there continues to be this back and forth between the nurse's union here in dallas and the hospital itself, nurses, the union saying the nurses were not essentially prepared when thomas duncan arrived. is this something we'll continue to see play out in the next for days? >> it is interesting, today a nurse on "the today show" with matt lauer are actually one of the 75 people being monitored right now who had direct contact with the patient eric thomas duncan. she spoke out with really dramatic charges saying things were not handled well at -- well at the hospital, the hospital we should note refuted that, saying we had all the right protective gear. but this is the first time a
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hospital has dealt with the case of somebody walking in with ebola, and we're seeing it happen in realtime. >> kate snow, thank you so much. that will do it for us. developments already on the ebola congressional hearings under way. the political world buzzing over that fan moment down in south florida. one reporter who was in the room will join jose on set in miami. jose diaz next. but when we start worrying about tomorrow, we miss out on what matters today. ♪ at axa, we offer advice and help you break down your retirement goals into small, manageable steps. because when you plan for tomorrow, it helps you live for today. can we help you take a small step? for advice, retirement, and life insurance, connect with axa.
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director tom frieden isxpected to face some pretty tough questions on capitol hill as congress opens up the first hearing on ebola since the disease first arrived in the u.s. one huge red flag, why was amber vinson allowed to board a flight to dallas from cleveland even after she told the cdc she had a low grade fever. frontier airlines is putting people on paid leave, and is reaching out to 132 passengers out of an abundance of caution. and there could be testimony with explosive allegations. in an exclusive with matt lauer, brianna aguirre became the first nurse to go public about the lapse of protocol. >> knowing everything i know, i would try everything to refuse