21-damon to21-day monitoring period is coming to an end by the end of this weekend, is that correct? >> that is correct, sir. >> do we know how many are being monitored right now? >> yes. in total or of the 48? >> yes. >> so, of the 48 it will be over on sunday. and then there's another 77, so 135 in total. and that number goes up and down -- can go up and down as we do more disease detective work. it's 135 today. >> i know earlier this week you indicated there was very much a real possibility we might see some more victims brought here to texas presbyterian. is that still the case? do we still think that's something that could happen over the next few days?

>> yes. we have to plan for that contingency. that is a real possibility. and we are preparing and planning for that. and we are working long hours to make sure that that occurs. those people will get world class care. and that's one of the reasons why we sent the two nurses to other facilities. so, we've got three isolation units ready to go. >> let's talk a little about the hospital. as you know, there has been a great deal of criticism leveled at texas presbyterian. they've gone out, hired one of the largest pr firms in this country. have you noticed a shift in the way the hospital has handled things over the past day or two versus in the first few days after all of this started? >> well, i think that being the first hospital in america to see ebola, it is a humbling experience. and then when you've got 75 of your hometown health care heroes, they were waiting to see if they are going to catch ebola

like nina and amber did. and all the family and all the drama around that and all the scrutiny involved in that, they're going through a tremendous amount of emotions and pain right now. and they're dealing with that with grace. and they're continuing to do their job. and when i think of the hospital, i don't think of some corporate entity. i think of nurses in scrubs who i've held while they've cried because they're working so hard. these are -- these are heroic people that need our compassion and our support. >> what's your take -- we're going to spend some time talking about this over the next 45 minutes or so. what's your take on the idea of a travel ban from west african countries? >> well, the best way to fight ebola is to go fight it in west africa. is to spend the money and send in the scientists and the teams to eradicate this disease in west africa. the travel ban, i've asked for information so i can weigh in on that. frankly, i haven't seen all the information yet because i'm busy on this. but i want to -- i want to weigh in with what's going to be necessary to keep our people safe.

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one of the most contentious debates right now about the response to ebola in this country, should the united states institute a travel ban on anyone from west africa whose final destination is the united states? just a short time ago texas governor rick perry changed his opinion on the matter. now says that with the exception of aid workers, president obama should, in fact, implement one. >> air travel is, in fact, how this disease crosses borders and it's certainly how it got to texas in the first place. based on recent and ongoing developments, i believe it is the right policy to ban air travel from countries that have been hit hardest by the ebola outbreak. >> congresswoman johnson of texas joins me now. her district includes dallas. congresswoman, thanks for being with me. >> thanks. >> let's start with the travel ban. do you support one? >> not totally.

however, let me say, if it is determined to be the safest way to contain this disease, then perhaps i will. rutd now people from west africa can leave and go anywhere in the world and not coming directly to the united states. that would wreck the entire aviation system to have that happen. what i think we need to do is more vigorously question people to make sure that they don't get on a plane. the mistake we made here is this man got on a plane. perhaps not telling the truth or whatever the reason. we need more vigorous question, just as we need at this hospital. if the nurse had questioned this person vigorously, then perhaps it wouldn't have happened in this way. however, we were not prepared for this disease -- >> when you say "we," do you mean the city of dallas? do you mean texas presbyterian?

do you mean the united states? >> the united states. i think the united states was not really prepared to see this disease in the united states until it happened. >> whose fault is that? >> i'm not sure it's a fault -- >> but we saw ebola spreading in west africa this spring, march. >> yes. >> how could we not have been prepared? >> well, i think that, really, dr. frieden had sent out protocols to every hospital. that was probably the most he could have done except staying on them, follow them, give attention to them. but i'm clear the people here did not expect that they would be seeing a case in this country, and certainly not here in dallas. and certainly not at this hospital. >> a lot of fingers have been pointed, as you know, at texas presbyterian. the hospital has hired a pr firm. what's your take on this hospital? i mean, some folks have said, this could have happened anywhere. if the first case of ebola in the united states had happened at a hospital in ohio or new york, the same would have

happened. is that true? >> i'm not sure the same would have happened. i'm not sure the same would have happened right here in dallas, but i think that it's only -- the hospital we depend on for unusual occurrences here is parkland. associated with the medical school. i think they probably would have been a little more careful in questioning. i'm not sure there was any hospital other than the hospitals or four hospitals that are already ready and in tune with the extra care would have been prepared otherwise. we just didn't expect it. and that's where we are. that's what got us to where we are. >> take off your congresswoman hat for just a second. you are a registered nurse as well. >> yes. as a nurse, the response from the cdc, the response from the nih. how would you rate that? >> i would rate both responses as top of the lot because -- >> top of the lot, really? >> yes, i really would, because

we have a great director. he sent out the information. >> you had nurses in this hospital, the hospital right behind you putting on two and three gloves because they either didn't know any better or weren't told better. how can you then say -- >> it's the hospital's responsibility to carry out the protocols. >> okay. >> the protocols were sent out. the hospital probably just did not pay it much attention because they did not have that expectation. at that point, i think they just didn't think about it. i don't think the patient who received the first patient asked vigorous questions to get the information. we don't know what the patient said. he's no longer around. >> congresswoman johnson, who's represented texas for a long time, thank you. i want to turn to former health and human services

director michael levitt. i want to start by playing what president obama said thursday about this ideas of a travel ban. take a look at what he said. >> i don't have a philosophical objection, necessarily, to a travel ban if that is the thing that's going to keep the american people safe. the problem is in all the discussions i've had thus far with experts in the field, experts in infectious disease, is that a travel ban is less effective than the measures we are quurntly instituting. . >> secretary, is a travel ban inevitable at this point? >> i've had the same briefings that the president alluded to. there are no experts on this because we've never done it. but those who have studied it and gained through it, all the ramifications continue to believe there are difficulties with it.

now, this is a bit different in that we are dealing with a quite contained, that is to say, isolated number of countries, whereas much of the study that's been done has been done assuming a widespread disease. so i don't know the difference here, but i think what the president said is consistent with what i have heard over the course of many years of studying this. >> in your opinion, what's the value of an ebola czar? >> i think an explanation here is useful. there is a federal response plan that has been in place now for several years and that's continually refined and practiced. part of that is the appointment of a federal coordinating officer. now, that's not nearly as -- as eye-catching as the word czar, but this is part of what typically occurs. now, if the president's appointing someone to oversee a process that's already in place, that might not be productive. but if he's appointing a federal coordinating officer to break through the logjams of a

bureaucracy, that's a likely good thing and something that would be part of the plan. >> it sounds like you're saying that this may be a bit of window dressing as well, some appeasement -- some appeasement to some folks. does it matter that klain isn't a doctor? does that matter at all? >> the job of this federal coordinating officer or czar, if you must, is to make certain that when the department of agriculture is being slow on releasing something that fda needs in order to get a particular compound approved, that they can break through those jams. it's to work with congress and do the things so medical officers can pay attention to medical issues. there will be a lot of doctors focused on this with lots of background. cdc is full of people who the world considers to be highly competent. i'm sure that mr. klain will be receiving a lot of advice from competent medical people. >> as czar, we haven't had a

working surgeon general in the united states of america for some time, as you know. if congress had confirmed surgeon general by now, do you think the response we've seen so far might be any different? >> no. let me shed a little light. the surgeon general of the united states, again, as it's a very good brand. it's a little like saying czar. the reality is the surgeon general is at a third level in the department of health and human services and reports to the assistant secretary of health who reports to the secretary of health. the surgeon general has no emergency staff. they don't have any -- there really -- they have a role of communicating information about health, but they're really not a big part of the comprehensive federal response plan. and so i think a lot's been made of this. i personally don't find myself very exercised over it. >> secretary, really quickly before i let you get out of

here. what have we learned, what have you learned so far from the response from this, from the way this has been handled from the beginning until now? >> i think we can relearn that anything that is said about preparation for a pandemic before it starts seems alarmist. anything that's done before it starts, after it starts, seems inadequate. there's a lot of preparation over the course of the last four or five years that have been going into this, but we as a public ignored this. we just didn't think about it much until it became a big crisis. now we're thinking about it a lot. and we ought to be using this as a moment to ask ourselves, how well prepared are we, not just for ebola but for any kind of a natural disaster? because the same things we do to prepare for a hurricane or for an earthquake or a bioterrorism event are the things that we need to do. and i just add one other thing. state and local preparedness is a very important part that's not being talked about.

the federal government cannot respond everywhere if this disease becomes more widespread. and local governments and state governments need to be thinking and leaning towaforward now so they're not caught unprepared. >> secretary michael levitt, i own joyed your insight. have a good weekend. >> thank you. it is almost the end of hurricane season. no nonetheless, we are tracking not one but two big storms in the atlantic and pacific. we'll bring thaw update in a few minutes. jooishgsz

. welcome back on this friday. we continue to follow the latest developments with ebola here in dallas. first, though, let's get you updated -- up to date on the two major storms causing problems on both sides of the country today. in the atlantic, hurricane gonzalo is expected to make landfall in bermuda within

hours. expected to bring widespread damage and power outage to residents of the tiny british territory have been told to seek higher ground because of a potential life-threatening storm surge. schools and the international airport have also been closed there. nbc meteorologist dylan dreier has the latest from bermuda. >> reporter: we are on the western edge of bermuda and we're expecting the storm to pass to our west by 20 to 50 miles. the surf is already starting to get roughed up as this storm gets closer. for the first time we've began to notice the winds start to increase a little bit here. now, we are looking at some natural defenses. you know, we are a small little speck here in the atlantic but bermuda actually has a reef that surrounds it that is going to cut back the storm surge we so often see in these major hurricanes. we're also high up in elevation, so while there will no doubt be some coastal flooding, inland areas aren't going to see that flooding that you see on the roadways. so, that will protect it.

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and secretary of state john kerry is asking countries to donate more money and equipment as well to fight the outbreak in africa. kerry says a lot more is needed or things could get worse. >> if we don't adequately address this current outbreak now, then ebola has the potential to become a scourge like hiv or polio that we'll end up fighting, all of us, for decades. >> meanwhile in maryland, nina pham, the first nurse to contract ebola is now resting comfortably in isolation at nih headquarters in bethesda. this is some video of ms. pham looking alert, appearing to be in pretty good spirits. she was getting set to depart from dallas last evening. this was 24 hours ago before she made that trip from dallas presbyterian to nih. the director of nih infectious

disease unit gave an update on ms. pham's condition. >> she is fair, stable and resting comfortably. we fully intend to have this patient walk out of this hospit hospital. >> nbc's luke russert was in bethesda for the news conference. nina pham, when she left dallas her condition was listed as good. now they say fair. what can you tell us about that change? >> reporter: hey there, craig. as far as why nina pham's condition has gone from good to fair, we did not get any real answer on that from the he cited privacy rights for patients. there is some indication her long-distance plane ride could be one of the reasons. also, this is nih, one of the premiere hospitals in the country, so the medical professionals here may have noticed something that perhaps those doctors in texas did not. all that being said, though, nina pham has a team of 20 nurses who are dedicated to her.

she has two nurses in the room at any given time. we're told she's interacting with staff, having a good face about all these types of things. it can't be easy. dr. fauci called her very brave. she has a few creature comforts, including her ipad. she's resting comfortably and doing the best she possibly can. one of four biocontainment units in the hospital specifically created to deal with diseases like of that ebola. so, she could not be in better hands than those here at nih. now, as far as when she will get out of here, that remains to be determined. the doctor said it is their goal at nih for nina pham to walk out of here under her own condition at some point, but that will only happen when she has rid herself of the virus, rid herself of the disease and is fully back to normal. while it's very difficult to have ebola, craig, she seems to have the best wits about her. and from what we've learned from these doctors, they expect her

to make a full recovery eventually. it's a tough process moving forward as we saw with the other patients. >> luke russert for us outside nih in bethesda. thank you. meanwhile, we are learning more about nina pham's colleague, amber vinson, who may have been showing symptoms a little earlier than originally believed. as a result, the cdc is now adding hundreds of names to its list of people potentially exposed to her. nbc's gabe gutierrez outside the hospital where amber is being treated. what more can you tell us about the timeline of when ms. vinson may have had symptoms and when she traveled. >> reporter: hi, craig. we are learning more from the cdc about when her symptoms began. they say they can't rule out she may have gotten sick on october 10th, when she first flew from dallas to ohio to plan her

upcoming we hadding with her family. what they do say now, according to the cdc official on the ground in ohio, is that she felt funny but didn't show any specific symptoms at the time. so, that's why they're looking into it. again, they say she didn't show any symptoms when she went to this bridal shop in ohio over the weekend. out of an abundance of precaution, that bridal shop shut down out of an abundance of caution. and authorities have identified 60 people she came into contact with and they're monitoring them very closely. although, again, they are not sick. again, they're trying to track down some of the airline passengers that may have flown with her on that first flight from texas to ohio. she did call the cdc on monday, self-reported that fever, which was underneath the risk threshold, so the cdc is also revising those travel guidelines, craig. back to you.

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on monday, louise troh will have completed 21 days in isolation. she had this phone call she received from texas presbyterian hospital, apologizing for the death of her fiancee. here's the statement in part. i am grateful to the hospital for this personal call. i am grateful to god that this leader reached out and took responsibility for the hospital's actions. hearing this information will help me as i mourn eric's death. because of my faith in god and because of my belief in what the bible teaches, it is my position that god is the judge of others and their actions and vengeance is not mine to demand. god is the judge and god will take care of me. i'm joined now by george mason, senior pastor at wilshire baptist church. sounds like she's quite the

forgiving woman. >> well, we all have to work at forgiveness. it's not natural to any of us, i think. obviously, this has been a difficult time for grief, but part of what it means to be a christian in particular is you do what needs to be right, not what feels right at any given moment. she's made the deliberate decision to be forgiving. i do want to say an apology goes a long way. while she was willing to forgive to begin with -- reaching out with an apology makes it so much easier. it makes moving forward in grief for her easier. so, it was a welcome thing. >> let's talk about the next step for her. monday, i understand, is the end of her 21-day period, correct? >> correct. >> have we made any progress in terms of finding her a place to live? >> we're working feverishly to that end. it's complicated by the fact that it's difficult not only to identify the place where she's

going to live and the and establishing the criteria she needs and for the long term, afford anlt and those sorts of things, and also there's going to be a gap probably. we'll probably not be able to move directly into the place she's going to be for the long term, so there will be a transition period. >> i know you just visited with her about two hours ago. how is she doing? not just physically, emotionally, spiritually? >> i think she's a little ragged right now, to be candid. i think, you know, she -- she's very frustrated by the circumstances. she's very tired. she doesn't have a clear path of what's happening next yet. she has to trust government agencies. people in the church and in the community generally. and all of this while she spent nearly three weeks in quarantine, not being able to touch another human being, not being able to grieve and mourn

with her family over the loss of this man who would be her husband. there's just so many things at once. i think she's doing as well as any human being. >> in addition to the apology, is the hospital stepping up to help her? >> there's no indication at this time. >> does that frustrate her? >> it would frustrate anyone in that situation. let's be sympathetic to the hospital to this end and say, this is an unprecedented situation. they understand that they are dealing with many things on many fronts at one time. the first important human thing they did was to call and make the apology. i think it was delayed too long. but i'm sure that they are looking out for all sorts of interest at this point. my hope is they'll get around to thinking about what would be the appropriate thing for them to do. >> quickly, before i let you go. this little boy who is now going to grow up without his father. how is he doing? >> first, he's not a little boy, he's is the years old. he's in college and he's a man. he acts like a man.

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racial identity. now, my kids are going to be very jealous because i got to talk to the guy who had everybody hates chris star tyler williams in the film. how did you go about -- how did you come up with the idea? >> the idea just came from -- it started in my college experiences. kind of came out of the conversations i was having with all of my friends on this mostly white campus about, you know, finding sort of groups of people that kind of relate to you but sort of toggling up and down different aspects of our identities for different groups of people. just that kind of conversation about, you know, being a black face in a white place. which has always been my black experience. that's really where it started. also, wanting to kind much, you know, make a throwback film, like the ones that like to do the right thing and hollywood shuffle -- >> school days. >> and you are already getting some comparisons. this film has already gotten some positive buzz on it. nelson george has talked about it. a distinguished contemporary

sensibility. post-black but very much 21st century as it tries to update and expand notions of black identity. that's heady praise. any of us who went to a predominantly white college can identify with each of these characters in a way. sam, the biracial, not to give it all away, but the biracial young woman trying to find and have this fierce black identity. you've got lionel, who is this sort of out of place awkward dude. didn't fit in in a black high sxool and now in another school. who did you most relate to as these characters? >> wow. >> you know i had to ask. >> you know, they're all me, to be honest with you, but in college i definitely entered -- i entered college more of a lionel and i left more of aisam. a little more sure of myself. a little more -- slightly more militant. >> and i love the way you played with all the different interactions of black identity. that's one thing african-american audiences crave. you see these different aspects of the black experience that don't always match up.

not everybody that was black in the film is on the same page. is that deliberate? >> absolutely deliberate. a lot of times we get caught up in this argument of, you know, what's black and not black? it's oftentimes a conversation that's not really being asked from other black people. it's sort of, you know, it's out there in the culture that black people are always a certain way. and i think this film, you know, does a few things but i think one of the things i wanted to do was get into the complexity of the experience. and presented us as human beings in the struggle like everybody else. >> i feel like i need toure at this moment to talk about this post-blackness. the other thing that's fascinating about the film is the way the black and white characters interact. have you white characters being assertive pushing back about political correctness and the black people see but mainstream media doesn't portray. >> the movies i referenced before, different people with different points of view, for

every point there's a counterpoint. i wanted the film to feel like a conversation, you know. i think if i had all the answers, the movie wouldn't even need to be made. so it's really -- it's- i wanted to create, you know, the sati satirecal world. the audience can be asking these questions. >> you played with things like color consciousness and you sort of cast it in an interesting way, the characters who have these sort of weird relationships to wanting to be less black or more black. you discovered a lot of great talent in this film. yes, tyler james white but a lot of new faces. how did you go about putting together this ensemble? >> we had a fascinating casting director. it was an embarrassment of riches. people responded to the screenplay. i got to see a lot of great people for the role and place people together. and the cool thing about this cast is that, you know, i spent

a lot of time writing the screenplay. i was intimately aware of how i saw the characters, but everyone in their roles brought something completely new as well. they sort of realized these parts the way i wrote them, but also gave me something new and i felt like, oh, who wrote that? that's the best feeling. >> the film is called "dear white people," how have white audiences responded to it? >> really positively. i think part of also on my agenda, i guess, of things to do as a filmmaker make it so every man can be the every man. as a film lover and person of color, you know, i'm sort of forced to see myself in movies that people don't look anything like me. what's really cool, you know, audiences of mostly white people, mixed audiences, whatever, they're able to see themselves in these characters and able to sort of engage in this conversation because when you're laughing, it's a safe space to talk about these things. so, it's been really great. the response has been amazing. >> justin, i don't expect anyone

to listen to a film review from me, but i highly recommend this film. you'll love it. i expect to see a lot more from you. look out, spike. very good film. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> and that is going to wrap up things for me. this was the friday edition of "the reid report." joy reid will be back next week, 2 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. visit us online, thereidreport@msnbc.com. "the cycle" is up next. 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. there it is... this is where i met your grandpa. right under this tree. ♪ (man) some things are worth holding onto.

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