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giving an ñiupdate onx> well, her condition isxd okf she's stable, she's t(comfortab. had a long conversation with her late last night. andçó as you might expect, she p a serious disease and i think she's doing well. my full intention is to at some timet(ok in the hopefully reasqk future to walk out of the hospital with her. but we can't predict. but she's doing well. >> a dallas county judge says the city is at a crucial crossroad in the battle against ebola.lp+ jud'# midnight tonight, the firstfá t people onr who have not showni] symptoms o the vs&uj will be cleared and g ñv monitored forko signs of ebola

port. on saturday, açó helicopter land on the carnivalxd magic toi]xd r a blood sampleçó fore1 that quarantined health worker. a spokesperson from carnival confirms toñi nbc news that blo sample tested negative for ño[i joining me now,ñis?hk kerry sann the ground there in galveston for us. a few hours ago. kerry, it was a good day to you, what are the passengers telling you? >> well, good morning. we're here in galveston at the port where sá ship came in just they're actually doing as beì(l% as they can to sanitizeñrxj(ñi vessel, even though there was no indication that anybody on board ultimately had exposure to the ebola virus orcxd actually wasx- because of ebola. nonetheless, thexdxd ship here hospitalw3 int( the lab hadc acc

handled some of thomasok eric duncan'sxd bodily fluidsxd in t lab. that person wasw3fá isolated in their room andw3 allc the other passengersçóct( started getting concerned, especially when the ship was supposed to make a port call in cozumel, mexico. andok the mexican government to them, i'm r the potential risk of having people who may have been exposed to ebola entering mexicö so a lot of anxiety. eventually, as you know, they'v] come took the conclusion, as yo come took the conclusion, as yo reported, tha4z, the bloodx&í5a1 taken from that one isolated 3 did not show any signs of ebola orqa+l exposure ebola. so everybody got the all clear. but nonetheless, we talked to passengers as they got off the c ship. and this is what they had to say.9 >> if there was any danger çóñi, you know, the +cdc released thi lady. áeájjt to it. bud 2q ruined a lot ofñi people vacations. but at least we're alive and don't have ebola.çó >> reporter: cruise line did do somexd extra

for those onboard givingok them credits, providing at one point an open bar so people could sori of !míuz relaxçó some of their anxieties without having to look in their pocketbook.ñi and, of course, ther passenger onboard here who was isolated, she got off first, she is now home, we understandlpp, she's not necessarily in any sort ofe1ñi isolation. her monitoring will contin3%e along with the group of others that are beinge1 monitored in t united çóstates. and carnival cruise line r was )ñ)jáy to refund her money and give her axd deal to come back. >> we may. i think we had a graphic made of that.

>> okay. say what you'rexd reporting, th fellow passenger remains symptom free andxdxd is performingp,fá they were performing a lab test. before they knew she didn't comá up any positive testing with that blood test.fá iñ alex, the bottom line here, what they have done here in concert, not only carnival, but the cdcqy texasi]ñrr want to givepa'ok+abundance of information. imagine this, you're on a ship. there were 4,000 people and rumors can spreadñrfá as fast aj virus, quite frankly. and so what they really had a problem here was people sayingq things that weren't true. and sortzv of becoming sort of like this gossip that took onpp% life of its own. ñ they had a helicopterko from the coast gua fly up to the shesterday, take a w3vial of okblood, flown first here to galveston, then aó biohazard team flew itwqx#uz th

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and i understand you havet( some new information about thomas eric duncan's fiancee. what have you learned about that? >> well, alex, we're learning more about whate1 her next step will be once she clears thatg 21-day monitoring period. she's going tor more days, along with three family members with her at that gated home, that home in thepao undisclosed location in dallas. that is because axdñ new home i b. it is in the dallas area, it's a single-family home. and it is provided right now by

who specifically gets to be cleared if symptom-free in e"ayrñ well, we mentioned her family. the group of 48. the initial contacts to duncan.k some of the medicalok workers. all in all, a totalxd of 48 p will be clearñrxdñit( monday mo. they've already graduated as they say from this quarantine program we have a sfs group who 4)ated duncan after he was admitted.w3xd we've been told that 25 of them opted to s0?"ñ the night at the hospital out of concerns that if they weret(lp to become symptom, they could expose their families.lp the majority of the 25xdw3fv

female and they are mothers. >> what about texas presé9u andñr the full-pager dallas morning news. >>çó here it is,jf full page co ad in the newspapers this 6 also working to reassure the public. i want to read you 0d 0lw3 says,o quote, 0d texas health is a safe place.q many are speculating aboutú ms. pham and ms. vincente1 becad infectedfá despite their&? &h(l% compliance for safety xd procedures. ourxd focus is the facts, and w are determined to get all o&n7e% answers as soon as we can.cw3 and they also go'c on to say, ty will continue adapting and changing theirñi policies in orr to keep it as safe a placexrñ possible, both for patients and employees there, alex. >> okay. thanks so much. we'll check in again next hour.w in just a fewok minutes, i'

/ with the public k minutes, i' / with the public k minutes, i' information officer for of dallas about how officials humanfá remains were discovered about ten miles at an abandoned property in a rural area.ñi needs to confirm the identity of 3 parents and college community are nowr preparing for the xdr jim, technically speaking, i guesse1 the searchfá for graham been suspended. it's beingñi called a death investigation. does this tell you law enforcement is fairly certain re heattánt is fairly certain >> e1qyes, it does, alex. i think they're on it now andfá the finding of lw3 hanna is goi

to cemen%9mq"áj @&h(lc% killer.zf5w3xd the theory ofw3 transfer when y have that encounter and certainly alpbpa= homicide, you right up close together in a killing like this.çó so there'se1 a transfer. the theory of transfers. you transfer things and the victimc transfers things. hair, blood,c saliva. whatever it may t(xdbe. "%"t$ave him on xg6videotape, ws at the bar. if they submit theñi fore5ñ.m from7io donezc and morgan's killing, as well.d ñ the length of time o identify these ñ if this is her?t(p, >> right.p, and that's a challenge for the medical examiner's because she's been in thec weather for six weeks. but hair remains, fluids can remain a long time if they're 1 there's decomposition, animal activity. there's weather. so it's a challenge.

but if it's there, they can get it.ñi and recover it, dna can be used, as well. they alsoñi have morgan's case. so in the end, it's going to be morgan and hanna that stop this killerxdxdlpçó just byñr being and the people have searched for them. that's going to be the answer in the end. >> it's an emotional time for that police chief who we've watched through thisxd arduousñ last month. here's what police chief tim longo said about the discovery.c >> sergeant james mooney of the police department.ñi made a very difficult phone call. and reached outjfxk to john and susan. to share wisáaq!"áj @&h(lc% preliminary discovery.xdgxlci] >> sot( what% investigation if it'sok confirmation it's hanna? >> well, one thing's changed a little bit. the police will play a larger role becauser found in theirok fájurisdiction.

found in theirok fájurisdiction. so you han police. we haveñiçó the chesterfield deputies who have found the body. you have virginal state police, forensic lab,r everybody here has done a tremendous joblp of investigati. and you know the hollywoodxd my oft( brilliant serial killers i bl>erjjtpt(r'. most of these guys aren't very brilliant. they're just ?;sqp', nasty sociopaths who prey on people like hanna and morgan.xd luckily now this guy stopped. what's next? mostlyw3 forená,(ák courtt( proceedings. this guy likes to play football, alex, he'll be playing on the prison team from now on. qrq)e.fá qrq)e.fá if it isokv hanna and you have morgan, as ñr well, how much does this help the prosecut/h? you said slam dunk. are you positive that's the way it'll go down? >> uwell, you don't get evidence in a homicide than eyewitnesss, seeing them at the bar. a videotape of him with his arm around her and he doesn't know her.çów3

dna and5a forensics in his vehicle, maybe in his house.ñibe and then ifó(i her body herself cements that with the theory of transfer, there's no more evidence to get. if you're looking for more than that, therew)sno more than thatá plus, they have-uox two cases. they can try one, virginia has the death penalty,jf they could try one a$ñ then they can also try the other4 ìekerjjut(jy so prosecutors areq going to be driving the case here, the police work is solid. the evidence is strong. yes, i think the killer's been stopped. that's the good t(news.t( the sad news is hanna's been lost and morgan, as well. >> thanks so much. appreciater x,át(qi'll speak to a journalist who traveled to syria and spent time on the ground. what he has took say about the week he spent embedded with jihadist militants. next. wow! go power oats! go! go power! yayyyy!

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they come from every cuúmer of the world.çów3 at least one fromçóxde1 singapo about 100 or so from the u.s., and nearly 2,000 from western europe. foreigners who have left their n syria's civil war.e1 a recent reportñr estimated tha 12,000 have traveled there since the war began three years ago. they've joinedñir frontxd andxd otherñi islamic ql"tjájt, and an independent journalist was able to get footage when he spent a week there.w3lp welcome, i'm glad you're here t1 talk about this.

iñi established contact there.ñi oncelp i was inside, it was oka. $'before thefá revolution. i felt home there. it was okay. >> okay. i know this group that you followed. how would you describe)?pñt(t(wc ideolo ideology? and what is their ultimate goald >> an$ offshoot of th#á front. it startes( off as part of it ad decided to become independent of it. its primary aim0 is to remove cou43ñ like"ñ many of the battaliothey would likexd some sortct( of islamic state o some sort of islamic lawñrñkc o goes. >> and what percentage of the fighters that you metnb were fr western countries?d >> i'd say about 15% to 20% that i met qhtjut)t)ur'g, as well.ñi

>> and did they tell you? did they tell you what makes ráv)ia to fight?ok >> they did. i mean, most of them believed that it is their duty to fight. some people i spoke to. said to me thatxdñixd the chemiw attack, for instance, was the main reason. especially the inactionñi ofok3 internationalq communityxd led them going over to fight.ñixh so that's really one of the main reasons to take out assadm and inaction of the international community made them think, this is whatxib need to do. and, of course, that is something withinxd the isla tradition to fight and to help your muslim b2 so this is why they're fighting. >> what about the impact of the u.s. bombing campaign?jfokñi >> oh, that's -- that's ( having -- i mean, it's creating morexd jihadists.

@&h(lc% to isis have come outok supportg because, remember, a lot of these bombings are happeningxd. a lot oft(ok civilians arerddyi. not necessarily fighters. the fighters are well aware of how to deal with+ planes and drones and so forth. >> but you asked one of those dutch jihadists whether he and the group were a danger to the west. i want to listen to zejuu >> because they're the ones who are coming with the airplanes, the tanks, the new weapons and killing innocent people.fáqc and we only protect the innocent people.nb like i xdñw3said, even if it's

don't fight. so who is the one with the danger?nb i think ifbhey wanti] to enter and kill innocent muslims, then they are in w3danger, we are in danger. >> so didn't the fighters you met with show any desire to conduct air attacks or is their sole focus on syria? >> for sure. the fighters that i spoke to had no xddesire even to go back to e west to do any terror attacks. towards the west. of course, they haveq noñr hesitation if america western troops were to be in syria or in iraq, they would have no hesitation in fighting them, of course. but terror attacks in the west, no problem. they wouldn't do that. them about the recent behepings of the american and british journalists and thelp aid worke. what was the reaction to that? >> i mean, i think a lot of people -- a lot of the fighters

weren'tlp comfortable with that. i think especially thelp killin oft( alanxdq henning didn't sit with them. and,lp of course, you'vekl/ got issue.okçó and what thev=always seem to say. and there's ae1 point here. they said, how does western lives --c western lives, why ar we treating western lives -- why aren't we treating them the same in fact, some of the fighters i spoke to are nowcå)ui5) @&h(lc% result of barrel bombs and, in fact, the guy i used to buy groceries from is no more. this is something they experience every day.ú and in the light of the things theyr western lives? it's a bubble. >> and we've seen all the picturek of the absolutely devastated landscape in the cities. can you talk about daily life for the civilians who you saw?

what's it like? >> i$x these people and how they just, you know, continue with their "uj everything else that goes ú they live and they try to live a normal life and be decent people. it's quite extraordinary to see that courage even flinch oncec these bombs + fall. you know, children know the difference.r all these different places. and they'll give you an explanation of what they are. so it'se1 really -- it's sad at the same time.çó i knew how these people were before and seeing them the way youxd changed the people ("á @&% same time.xd there are still a lot of good in these people. and you admire these people. >>u7 we admire you. it's an extraordinary experience you're bringing to us and to ouó viewers. thank you very much for sharing it.fá >> thank you for having me.ñi next up.pgti átr'formationç. some people are about to come

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who's this guy? oh that's charlie. you ever put pepper spray on your burrito? i like it spicy but not like uggggh spicy. he always like this? you have no idea. at&t. the naon's most liable 4g lte network. in about 12 hours, the firs% people quarantinedc for ebola i texas will be off the monitoring list. others,c including several hospitald quarantine. what if one of them should turn out to be infected? well, a short time ago, a county official answered that question3 >> tell ambulances to bring them and anyone3w elseok who has+ a african travel history and fever to presby. we'll çóintake them here and se them to oneñi of three national health centers via air ambulance or sendxd them=qúlç"by ground a3 in galveston where we have the ability to dispose of the t(was. and there's a copious amount of

waste that's created in the care of these patients. we're also setting up a triage unit in another location here in case we have a whole lot of cases.okçó so we'll have isolation units to take care of ebolau$!@ positive somewhere else in the next 24 hours.w3 e announcing that

do they share that excitement? do you getñr a sense that the situation is getting under control?p,t( >> i definitely do. you know, we got throughokd nile virus. we took in thousands of people after hurricane katrina.t( we as a community,g strong, prideful and we'll get through this together. ihbkn tell you, there's been a lot of talk 6 been this point.w3 there's a lot of excitement here for that. >> yeah, i imagined information is -- it's all on your shoulders rj really what needs to be done to make sure concern about the virus doesn't turn into panic. has thisñi -- has that turned o to be the case? information out there? >> it absolutely is. if you take a look at yesterday, we had a situation wherelpw3ñi n

was on a d.a.r.t. train and we received reports she hadt( live at thexdçó apartments, been in contact with mr.fá duncan and s vomited eitherok on the train o on the platform.oklp then once we started doing the research, we found this woman did not livex(ç atxd táñ apartm she was not on any monitoring list. and she justok sits on a platfo. and that wasw3 treated as a potential contact because we are not going to take anyjf xdrisks. and we wantj< >> yep. and can you give us an update on the cities treatinglq apartments of both of the nurses and alsoçó nurse nina zfojpham? >> at this point, the decontamination of both apartments is completed. xd place right r

now. j strictly at this point are focused on any medical waste thatñi may still here, but the waste that incorporates thexd belongings, e from both nurses' apartments, that process has been completed. >> okay. and you

we thank you for sharing them with all of us. best of luck as you continue progress through this.ñiokñi ahead, newi photos of kim jong-un after weeks out of the public eye.

welcome back to ñr"weekends with alex witt." new pictures ofñi northjf korea leader are surfacing. this follows a lengthy public absence bylpc the leader which drawn worldwide speculation. officials in nepal say resc->ok operations have been authorities say most of the remaining survivors have already been rescued. the disaster marks nepal's worsr hiking tragedyhtt( ever. and riot+ crews were out after an afternoon party gotñi

at least 14 arrested and 30 injured in that melee.xd health officials in ohio say they are now monitoring more "1 signs of ebola, but none of those being monitored stick. this moveq comes after dallw n]$ve amber vincent flew to cleveland beforekoçó testing positive for ebola last week. they were monitoring 16!reople, but the sharp increaseçó now includes airline passengers one vincent'st( flights and people p also visited a dress shop where vincent's bridesmaids tried on dresses. vincent is currently being treated at an atlanta hospital.% new reaction today from the director of the national institutes of health to the criticism overok the ebola protocols in this country.ñi >> the original protocol on the cdcw3 website was a protocol th was adopted from i]w.h.o. in whh they handled the epidemicxd und much different conditions. j it wasn't where you were giving people intensive care.ccñi

and it became very clear right away we needed to modify that protocol to bet( much, much mor strict in which no part of a body is exposed. and that's where we are now. >> well, joining me right now, katie 2lb,romer with the califo nurseszf5 association and the organizing committee. you. i know you're well aware of the cdc new guidelines for health care workers dealing we bith ebr do these new guidelines give you more confidence in the cdc? do you think the guidelines are enough? >> e1well, the reality is, it's not about our confidence in the1 cdc. what it's about is getting the highest level ofhtp, standards % place. and we are atlfgñ this point, y know, the cdc does not have theó they are just that,d áz what we president obama5a use his executive authority or give the authorityrtv theçó ebolau czar mandate national uniform standardsçót( so we can have th

very highest level of personal protective equipmentok= includi hazmat suits and adequate nt. for us, nothi' because we're putti",our lives on the line. we right now have a petition at national nurses united.org to have peopleñi go and ask presidt obamañi to do the right thing a mandate those standards so our patients and ourselves and our communities can stay safe.e1 >> soxd the dallas hospitalw3 w thomas eric duncan waslp treate and died and where the two nurses caring for duncan contracted ebola. they released a full-page letter.w3 the quote starts with, we have remained committed to complying with lpcdc guidelines from the á start. we believe our procedures comply with the cdc ebola guidelines and our staff1w9a implemented t diligently. we'll continue to make whatever changes al%÷ needr4ñ to provide safe working environment for our amazing care-giving teams as ti compassionate and quality health care to the citizens of north texas.

this letter goes on to say that the hospital's a safe place for employees, also patí5&ts. what's your reaction to7$%at, katie?jfw3fár >> look, allu$ese protocols have been changing.r this hospital, i'm not sure, you know, what to believe coming out of this hospital anymore. they've changed things multiple times. you know,r nurses right now who are fighting for their lives in n the united states. and our real concernçóñi is wit them and that not one morec nure be exposed to this.ñiçó$xì(lc% so, you know, our viewpoint is thatxdlp all of us atw3r anotherjf until we have mandate uniformxd standards that, you know, teach us how to use the equipment andhpyi)e using the highest level of protective equipment,p, including hazmat suits and respiratory protections. we are not going to be satisfie] and we're going to keep going again. >> katie, i also want to say, look, i'm in noúslçs7 way defen

texas presbyterian, but hasxd i crossed people's minds?fá texas presbyterian was the first on the front lines.ñi what texasfákook presbyterian d based with what theyfág you know, we have had health care in the united states is incredibly fragmented.xm3 c1 these hospital systemsok have a choice about whether they -- how they're going tow3 implement th guidelines that are given to 3é president obama and congress need toxdçó mandate the highest levels of standards. and, again, that's whatxdw3ñiç

petition at nationalt( nurses united.org is asking everyone to go thevand ask president obama to do the right thing and have this be a mandtí, not a voluntaryfát(t(fá response. >> okay. katie romer, thank you veryi] much. appreciate your insight. >> thank you. lastozweek, theñifxáq%9 mad huge strides in howe11;ñ they minister to gays and lesbians, this week, they're taking a step back. when folks think about what they get from alaska, theyhink salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here crtes something elses well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety syems & technology.

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closer toxdq saint hood, but bishops backtrackedçójfr move gays into the fold.ok declaring them as individuals who had gifts to offer the churchjfr bishop's final report on marriage and families. and even the tougher wording was voted down, calling çó homosexuality a problem,a?nñ sa people with homosexual tendencies should be welcomed.bá bishops also rj:q language saying that living out of "tqi p'd remarriage.fát(e1 catholic gayfá rights groups ca it very t(disappointing. some see this ase1 a e1setback pope francimd who said last yea if a persov( is gay and searche% for the lord, who am i to judge? today thelp pope reaffirmed his commitment to reform saying the thank you for that.t( well, tomorrow is the first dayi] of earlye1 voting in texar the upcomingjf midterms.

but=0c order to fáupholdc the state's ;tp((uár'g texas of discriminatg against minorities.xdfá10[iñ today, we're hearing mixed reactions from texas voters.r >> i think it is a partisanu trick to try and prevent people from being able to vote. and i'm against it. >> i think it's good. you wantñr to make sure that people aree1 not trying to try to use )uv to vote for someoñdu ac%> well, joining me nowi], an msnbc contributor and fellow5a for politics and governance. go=dpokrñ$uz see you{tj always. and as[ youxd also know, justi ruthçó baderok ginsburg wroteok could preventxd 600,000 people from votinknññr so canscrs you "ds q the kind o impact this could have at the polls? effect of this law isn't just in theory. it could affect. we know fromçó polling done thi

summer by latino decisions that 7% of eligible texas voters don't have the necessary documents. and perhapsi] what's even moreç troubling is that at least half of those folks didn't even know that they were z they thought they had the right documents, they were going to documents, they were going to show upt( atw3xt potentially be turned away. and whenxd we get a little deep into the issue and we're starting to get into the factor of a poll tax is that the folks that don't necessarily have the underlying documents to get them. the argument thatok pro voter i. folks put forward is, hey,m's free to get an i.d. but it's not freexd tofá get a h certificate andr energy is estimated atfá aboutq0 to $100. we're getting into the realmc o the poll tax. >> it's listening to that last gentleman who spoke. youxd heard the two sound bites

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plus your runny nose. oh, at a relief it is. back on dry land. a cruise ship returns to port. >> people were sort of irritated, wondering why she worked with the ebola specimen, i guess, and got on to a ship 19 days later. >> but good news for a dallas hospital worker who had been quarantined on board that boat. also, inside the hot zone, hear from an associated press photographer who captured the ebola tragedy unfolding in africa. and imagine wearing face masks while running a marathon? hello, everyone, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." now here's what's happening. new today, the director of the national institutes of health is reacting to the criticism of how

government officials have handled the ebola crisis. >> although there seems to have been some missteps in the beginning, those things are experiences that put on your radar screen and make you improve. we think about it every single day. how can we do better? what's the best way to do it? what's the best way to do this and that. and right now, actually, things are running quite smoothly. the big issue right now is the contact tracing and making sure we get people in those brackets and make sure we follow them. >> dr. anthony falchi says nina pham is doing well. describing her as fair and stable. the group of people on the cdc monitoring list who have not shown symptoms will be cleared and officially declared ebola free. the carnival cruiseship with a dallas health care worker being monitored for signs of ebola is back at the port today. on saturday, a helicopter came in and landed on that ship to recover a blood sample from that

quarantined health worker. a spokesperson confirms to nbc news the blood sample tested negative for ebola. and a memorial service was held for thomas eric duncan this weekend in north carolina. he, of course, the first person to be diagnosed with and die from ebola here in the united states. nbc's kerry sanders has been at the galveston port since the carnival cruiseship arrived. kerry, another welcome to you. what are you hearing from passengers? >> well, alex, most of the passengers have gotten off the cruise ship. in fact, those onboard who work on this cruiseship, about 1,400 crew members have been scrubbing it down as best as they can to sanitize the ship. now, that really is just to give peace of mind to the next 4,000 passengers who are getting onboard for a 7-day cruise. according to the cdc as well as to carnival cruise line, there was, as it turns out, no ebola virus or exposure of somebody to ebola virus on board this ship. but they just want to give people a sense that they are

doing everything possible that they can do. now, those who got off board today, some said they felt their cruise was a little ruined. others said they understood the precaution. one of the passengers here isolated in her room having no contact with others. bottom line is it was sort of a back and forth between what passengers had to say when they got off about this cruise that really wound up having some delays, including that they were unable to -- >> yeah. i literally had anxiety. i was like, don't do it, don't cry. >> they never said ebola until today when we were finally cleared. they said a virus. somebody's in quarantine and kept saying that over and over and over. >> and so they heard those words ebola, they didn't know what they meant. but at the end of the day, everybody on board goes home. nobody's going to be subjected to isolation or quarantine. meantime, the cruise line association has announced that they're going to voluntarily

adopt some new rules. okay. so passengers who are coming from level 3 countries, like sierra leone. if they've come there, they would not be allowed to board. they'd be denied boarding. if somebody has traveled there and returned. for the time being, they'll be denied. and finally, for somebody actually treating somebody with ebola, they're going to be doing the checks on the health to make sure they don't have any indication of carrying the virus. if they do, they'll be denied. it's the ultimate in trying to prevent more concern and quite frankly, as we've heard from some of the people on here, trying to put to bed any hysteria that could start. again, these are vacations, people are going on vacations to get away from the real world. and unfortunately, for many of these people, it was not an escape from the real world. >> absolutely. have increased vigilance before you get onboard that boat.

from galveston, texas, north now to dallas. and welcome to you. i know you've gotten a bit more information about the fiancee of thomas eric duncan. what are you hearing? >> well, alex, some generous people in the community are stepping forward to help her and her family start over. once that 21-day monitoring period is up for them. here's what's happening. enormous donors and the city have worked together. they have found a home for the fiancee and her family to go live in. and they're also working to replace a number of items that had to be destroyed as part of the decontamination process. right now, they are being -- they are staying, rather, in a home in a gated community here in dallas that is undisclosed location. they're going to spend a few more days there while final preparations are made in the new home, alex. >> okay. can i ask you about this full-page ad in the local papers there? i'm going to take a look at some of what is said there. but i'd like to have you gauge the reaction from the community.

if now, all this time has passed we're almost at the end of the quarantine window, do you get a palpable sense of calm or at least returning to normal there in dallas. >> life for most people here in dallas never really strayed from too much from the norm. now, while ebola was a hot topic of the conversation, you couldn't go anywhere, not even the nail salon, the mall, the grocery store without hearing about it. people were still going about their daily lives. so this letter comes at a time where ebola, it's not affecting people's lives, it is still an issue in them. it is still something that's being talked about here in the community. so the letter addresses some concerns that people still had had here. in the letter, the hospital acknowledges some of the mistakes that are made, seeks to reassure the public that the hospital is safe for patients and employees. and the letter discusses some of the steps that the hospital is taking in case of huge cases of ebola here. that includes training some

specialized training, putting on and removing that personal protective equipment. and changes in their electronic medical records so they can ensure that every member of the medical team is aware of that patient's travel history. they also discuss a little bit about the investigation which is still ongoing into how exactly nina pham and amber vincent contracted ebola. they said they don't have answers right now, but they'll keep the public informed and they'll continue to address any issues on it and continue to adapt their policies as they learn more about how these two nurses possibly could've contracted ebola. >> okay. thank you very much from dallas. president obama's keeping a close eye on the ebola situation. holding a meeting last night in the oval office with several high-ranking officials. kristen welker at the white house for us. with a good sunday to you, kristen. >> good sunday to you. president obama met with some of his cabinet secretaries and other top officials for more

than an hour last night. i'm told he was briefed on the status of those two health care workers who are recovering from ebola. and just generally the domestic response, the attempt to do a better job of getting information out to hospitals and the american public. meanwhile, earlier today on the sunday shows, republican senator ted cruz of texas continued to call for a travel ban for west africa. >> there were no doubts mistakes were made up and down the line at the level of the hospital, the level of health officials, implementing the protocols. but i'll tell you the biggest mistake that continues to be made is now more than two weeks into this we continue to allow open commercial air flight from countries that have been stricken by ebola. >> and alex, important to point out, there are democrats also calling for a travel ban. at this point in time, the administration says that is not the right way to go. they say it could ultimately

make it harder to screen people coming in from west africa who might be sick with the disease. interestingly, i was in the oval office with a number of other reporters this past week with president obama just after he had met with some of his top officials. and he said he's not philosophically opposed to a travel ban. he left the door open just a tiny bit to that possibility. of course, no imminent plans to do that. and, again, the administration believes this is not the right path forward. but undoubtedly, that is going to be a big topic of debate in the coming days here, alex. >> and the newly named czar, is he already on the job? >> he was here at the white house meeting with chief of staff mcdonagh. i believe that was a meeting to brief him on the task before him and, of course, alex, that task is enormous. he's charged with being a bridge between all of these agencies who are working on the ebola response. trying to get the white house to make sure it's communicating with congress as well as health officials. and to make sure all that

information is getting out to the public. basically, making sure that everyone is on the same page and that the mistakes that were made in dallas don't get repeated. as you know, as we've been talking about throughout the weekend, alex, some republicans have criticized this pick. they say he doesn't have a background in health care, and that's going to be a real problem. so there's going to be a lot of focus on every move he makes, and he's expected to hit the ground running, that's for sure. >> no pressure there. thanks so much. >> thanks. a grim discovery in a rural area of virginia. investigating the human remains that were discovered saturday about ten miles from charlottesville at an abandoned property. virginia's chief medical examiner needs to confirm the identity of those remains. hanna's parents and college community friends are now preparing for the worst. >> captain sergeant mooney of the police department made a very difficult phone call and reached out to john and susan graham to share with them this

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look at the streets of hong kong where police are trying to keep the peace there. earlier today, clashes certainly erupted between pro democracy protesters and police. the demonstrators are not backing down from their movement, which began about three weeks ago now. hundreds of thousands of people have been occupying the streets to show their support for democracy in hong kong. widespread fear connected to the ebola crisis has caused some to wonder if panic is spreading faster than the virus. with only one reported death in the u.s., why does the country seem to be running rampant with fear? maggie joins us to discuss what is driving the mass hysteria. what is it that most don't understand about this virus? >> well, i think, alex, what people don't understand is that there aren't a lot of unknowns. i think the natural instinct is to think that perhaps there's something we don't know or that we're not being told. and, quite frankly, alex, i think we're to blame. we in the news media that the top of the show focused on

ebola. we're talking about ebola, i'm writing about ebola. the news is leading we bow ith . all people hear is ebola. and when you hear something over and over again in the news, it sets off the alarm centers in your brain. and it's only natural to think that perhaps there's something you're not being told or you're not hearing or that might happen. and that's especially true with an infectious disease because there are infectious diseases such as flu that do spread quietly, that do spread when you're not sick, that do spread after you're sick that can remain on surfaces. and it's only natural to think something like ebola might do that. now, the experts say it doesn't. it absolutely does not. the only people who have been infected are those who everyone predicted would be infected as health care workers and let's hope that the people who are the close contacts of thomas eric duncan will get through to midnight tonight. there a moment when they'll be

considered free and not infected as everybody predicted they wouldn't be. but, again, the experts say it's only natural for people to feel alarmed. >> yep. look, ebola isn't anywhere close on the list of top american killers. i mean, the flu kills considerably more people, thousands every year. and that's -- people think that's a simple disease or a simple virus. does ebola even have the potential to ever reach one of these top killer levels here? >> not here in the united states. now, africa is a whole different story. over in west africa, absolutely. if the aid does not get over there, if clinics aren't set up to get people isolated, it can and will spread that way. here in the states, absolutely, you are correct, alex. flu is the thing you should be afraid of. flu kills anywhere between 4,000 and 40,000 people a year. they're not all elderly people. every year, it kills perfectly healthy adults. it killed more than 100 children

last year. and more than half of them were perfectly healthy children, as well. >> what about the u.s.? having -- has not banned the travelers from west african countries. belize, parts of mexico, cozumel shutting their ports when a cruise passenger was suspected of being exposed to ebola on that ship. thousands of people were not able to disembark. they wouldn't go to port there. what do you think was behind those decisions? >> plain and simple fear. people are trying to reassure the public because as you can see with kerry sanders' report, there were plenty of people scared and nervous. and it's possible that these measures instead of being reassuring are frightening people even more. there are ways you can reassure people that they're safe without taking unnecessary measures. sending a blood test out may have been a final measure to say, look, this person isn't really infected and there's absolutely no way she could ever infect you. but it's kind of hard to balance

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film editor for "variety." that clip alone makes me want to see "st. vincent." >> i really like it. it's a cute movie. kind of a cross between "silver linings playbook" and "as good as it gets." >> here we are talking about the oscars, february 22nd. four months until we get there. feels like there's a lot of oscar buzz already. is this unusual or the norm? >> i think it's kind of the norm. once we enter the fall season with october/november, it gets into fever pitch and the movies start to open and people start to see them around thanksgiving. >> yeah. speaking of the actual ceremony itself, the event, neil patrick harris named as host this week. what do you think of that? >> he's hosted the emmy's four times, tony's. and he's always wanted to host the oscars. i think he'll do good. i think the challenge for him will be different. to be different as oscar host as he is the other hosts because he's hosted so many other things. >> also hard to come off ellen degeneres. >> she was the biggest telecast

in years. and they wanted her back and she said no. so he does have big shoes to fill. >> that'll be a challenge. but i think he's up to it. what about the theory of everything? let's play a clip of that. >> sure. >> my name is stephen hawking. >> it's american. >> is that a problem? >> it's been a great joy to watch this man defy every expectation. both scientific and personal. >> it's a tough role because he's got to play the physical condition of hawking. do you think that alone will give him serious consideration as an oscar? >> i interviewed him. and he said it was hard because he couldn't use his voice. that's actually hawking's real voice. >> really? >> he gave them permission to use his voice. and he has to contort his body in several ways and he has to study his life to portray him on screen. he hasn't been a lead actor, but i think this will change the

trajectory of his career. >> i like his work a lot. what about -- well, you had to do for the cover of "variety," the interview with bill murray. >> i did. >> getting him for an interview was tough. i know. he said in this interview, if you want an award so much it's like a virus, it's an illness. so, the campaign for oscar. how important is that? >> it's getting more and more serious. it's almost like turning into a political presidential campaign where, you know, there's all these analysts and people study oscar voters and there's more lunches and campaigning events. and bill murray says he's not going to campaign at all. but this movie st. vincent is being released by the weinstein company. i think bill murray will probably -- he has a good chance of getting in there. and he's a great actor. >> what about bird man? bigry lease this week, michael keaton getting attention. >> it opened at $100,000 per screen. only here in new york and l.a.,

but michael keaton's never been nominated for an oscar. this is a quirky indie movie where he plays an actor who played a comic book hero called bird man. naomi watts is in it, emma stone is in it. i don't know, audiences might be more divided because it's so weird, but it's one of the critical favorites of the year. >> a lot of times, you gloss over when you and i will have interviews, like a director. but you've got david fincher with gone girl. both of these movies getting a lot of buzz. what do you think? the director? >> i think they'll be nominated. also richard link later for boyhood -- >> how many years? >> 12 years making the movie and great cast. and it's an incredible cinematic accomplishment. so i think has a chance of getting in there as well and possibly winning. >> all right. let's go to the movies some time again. >> let's do.

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rallies held in venezuela's capital. the demonstrators upset over the murder of a ruling party member. the antigovernment protesters were angry about high crime rates, alleged human rights violations and foot shortages. the beijing international marathon got underway today despite heavy pollution blanketing the city. look at that, many runners donning face masks as they run. describing the air quality early as hazardous. the mens and women winners were from ethiopia. a motorcycle featured in the movie "easy rider" has a new owner. the captain america chopper sold for $1.35 million. bidding was fierce for that harley davidson. the person with the winning bid has not been identified. health officials are keeping a closer eye on a new crop of people who may have been exposed to ebola after amber vincent traveled to ohio from dallas. chris palone with the latest on the new additions.

how many people are now been monitored following this trip from cleveland to dallas? >> yeah, hi there, alex. now, officials in ohio are saying at least 100 people are being self-monitored, taking their temperature a couple of times a day because they believe they came in contact with amber vincent. now, as you mentioned, she flew from dallas to the cleveland area over last weekend and she was in akron, which is her hometown. she was doing some wedding planning. so she went to a bridal shop. she did other things out and about that weekend. so officials have identified. people who went to that bridal shop, people who were on her flights who might have been near her on those flights, and those folks are now being monitored. their temperature taken a couple of times a day. so far, no signs of ebola. also a tsa agent who gave amber vincent a pat-down before one of her flights, he's been placed on 21 days paid leave. he's been put on paid leave as a

precaution. and her stepfather is the only person in ohio who is in quarantine at this point. but also, no symptoms for him either. >> aren't through others, as well, who went to a dress shop where she went with her bridesmaid? are they being notified or quarantined? what's the story with them? >> yeah, they're being monitored. those folks are being identified. she went to a dress shop for the bridesmaids to try on their dresses for her wedding. and so, health officials in ohio had to go to that dress shop and try and put together exactly who else was in there when she was there last saturday. >> also in alabama, the cdc apparently preparing americans to help out in west africa. what kind of training are these volunteers receiving? >> right. well, our cameras got a good look at this training that the cdc is putting on, very interesting. over in alabama, about an hour's west of atlanta. the cdc is doing the week long training sessions for volunteers, nongovernment organizations, missionaries,

people like that, government people who are going over to west africa to help with the ebola crisis over there. they're learning things like how to properly put on protective equipment, how to clean up potentially infected bodily fluid spills and things like that. certainly an interesting training and a very popular training that the cdc is doing. these training sessions last about a week. there's been high demand for them. and we're told, they are planning to go into next year with these training sessions over in aniston. >> okay. thank you so much, chris. a new call for help in africa today from one of the charities trying to keep ebola from spreading. calling for troops to be sent to west africa along with funding and medical staff to prevent the situation from becoming, quote, the definitive humanitarian disaster of our generation. the charity says there is a less than two-month window to curb the spread of the virus.

doctors, volunteers and members of the media are already there alongside thousands of the sick and dying. jerome delay was among them spending nearly two weeks trying to capture the human misery on camera as it unfolds in liberia. he joins me now from paris. jerome with a welcome to you. i'm curious, did your bosses have to convince you to go on this assignment? or did you have to convince them to let you go? >> good morning, alex. well, actually, i would say i had to convince them, it was not very, very difficult. the main concern. i went in with the team of the writer and camera man. and really, the main thing, you get sick there and we can't tell the story the way it is. we had to do risk assessment. we had to do a bit of convinc g convinciconvincing and make a plan as to what we're going to be doing exactly. just like in any situation where we go. and then we got the green light because assessment came back

saying the most dangerous thing that could happen to us is a car crash. and not catching ebola. so we went and tried to do a job just to tell the story of the people, you know, living under the fear of ebola there. >> so, as one of the people who volunteered to go into that hot zone, what kind of a mindset did you have to adopt in order to do your job? because i imagine you saw a lot of pretty horrific things. >> well, you have to approach it like any -- like any conflict. i've said it before, to me, ebola is a war, and you're walking in a virtual war zone where you cannot see the enemy. you preyoursepare yourself like other situation. you use common sense, you pack the proper gear that will be necessary for you to do the job in the safest condition. and, i mean, it's really no

different. >> you know, jerome, i've heard you talk about a photograph that you took of a little girl, i think she was 9 years old, mercy kenne kennedy. and your story stuck with me. you said this story's going to stay with you. i want you to share her story with my viewers. >> well, she's a little girl who lives in the same compound where mr. duncan came from before he flew to the states. and went to dallas. when that news broke, we went to that compound and talking to people. and her mother had just passed away. and the thing is, the very sad thing about what happens there is there is absolutely nothing you can do to reassure people. there's nothing you can do to give people any form of relief. and that is really heartbreaking.

imagine a society where people do not touch each other ever. it's like both of your arms were cut off. like one of your major senses, which is compassion, has been taken away from you. and that's difficult to live with. but, again, it's not about me, it's about them. and, you know, what this little girl went through is really, really very sad. >> and this poor child, will she be a pariah in her community? >> well, yes and no. because the people -- got to stick together and family units are quite strong. i know we got a little bit of news later on that she was actually taken away and put in a 21-day quarantine with the help of unicef and the local ngo and the ministry of health. and i haven't had news in a few days, but i would imagine, you know, she might never show symptoms. might not be, you know, sick,

which means she will return back to the community as a healthy child. now, yes, there is a stigma. yes, she might be looked upon, you know, as dangerous by other people. but i don't think, you know, that the fear and the hysteria happening in the states right now is not happening there in the same level. >> you know, jerome, you've been covering africa for nearly 20 years, how does this crisis compare to those you've experienced in the past? >> how does it compare? i've never covered a disease before. never covered anything like that. it's the same thing in the sense that you cover -- you tell the story of people who are going through a hard time. you tell the story of people in this case, in the time of a plague. and you try to give them a voice, and you try to get near them, and you try to be sensitive and sensible.

it's just a story you have to tell. and the way we do it. there is no competition. we all together there to tell a little part of the story that is developing. >> yeah. well, i know you heard the phrase, a picture tells a thousand words. thank you so much for your photographs which are beautifully chronicling the situation in africa. thank you. the fight against isis and the push for more involvement from turkey. i'll talk with a former terrorism expert just ahead. ♪ there it is...

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senior fellow at the research institute. we've got witnesses on the ground who say the isis mortars were falling inside turkey last night. so, where is the point where turkey actively gets involved in this fight against isis? >> i think we're looking at a very complicated squags situation with kobani. it is, by nature, a kurdish enclave. what isis has done is made the turks essentially make a decision about whether they want to support their islamic brothers as they see it from isis perspective or support the kurds who inside turkey, the turkish government has been battling insurgency. >> issued a statement of support for isis, is this -- this is pretty significant because aqap is the strongest al qaeda franchise. its head is close to the leadership. so what would it mean if isis and al qaeda start working

together? >> this symbolizes the long conflict over the past year between isis and al qaeda. yemen is a swing state, if you looked at it like an election between al qaeda and isis. and if yemen were to swing al qaeda in the arabian peninsula were to swing toward isis, it would mean that isis is the global leader and that al qaeda has become number two. so this call for unity is al qaeda's last ditch attempt to take control back from isis. >> interestingly earlier today, i spoke with a journalist who just returned from syria. he was embedded there with the islamist group. the fighters told him that if anything, the u.s. air strikes are actually pumping up their morale. they're inspiring more people to join them. do you think that's inevitable? or is there a way go after this? >> it's going to rally both groups back together at a time where we're in a good position

where they were split and fighting each other. i'm very concerned about this on the horizon. >> what about the report from the syrian observatory for human rights. on friday, said that isis now has three russian-made fighter jets and they're getting trained on them by iraqi officers. what are you hearing about the story? i should say one of our military analysts questioned whether or not these jets were operational or could be long-term operational because you need parts and repair and that's what they may not have. >> i doubt that isis could sustain the use of aircraft. they're doing this as a propaganda stunt. and i'm sure their american fighter pilots have been waiting for decades to get into a dog fight. and should they get up in the air for more than a few minutes, i would imagine they won't last long. >> i know your analysis looks at the origins and the trajectories of the jihadist groups. if you look at that bigger picture, does isis make sense in the evolution of modern terrorism over the last quarter century? was this a logical direction?

>> yes. isis has come from al qaeda's failures. al qaeda has failed to strike a big attack in the u.s. and in the west since 2005. and they've also failed to deliver on their main objective, which is to create an islamic state. isis is doing that and therefore all jihadis around the world are rallying to their cause. >> what does that mean? what are you most concerned because of this? >> my biggest concern is we're taking our eye off the external operations branches. namely the ones inside al qaeda and arabian peninsula who are determined to attack in the west. luckily -- >> and isis is not? >> isis at this point would like to, but likely doesn't have the capacity or the planning time to actually put together a viable plot in the west. it'll only come down those that really take up the cause on their own and might try to pull off an attack. >> really quickly. you said that isis is taking their eye off what? we've taken our eye off what?

>> taking away from our focus on al qaeda who still has foreign fighters, american foreign fighters that have joined the ranks who could deliver an attack into the west. to have access to the west. and they can be empowered by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula who has been overshadowed by isis and needs a big victory. they're probably pushing for a large scale attack. >> appreciate it. >> thanks for having me in, alex. the setting iperfect. you know what? plenty of guys have this issue, not just getting an erection, but keeping it. well, viagra helps guys with ed geand keep an erection. and you only take it when you need it. good to know, right? if ed is stopping what you started... ask you doctor about viagra. [ male anuncer ask your doctor if yo heart is healy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pn; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure.

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i mean, there is such a palpable desire to change the direction we are on. >> joining me now, msnbc contributor jimmy williams, and mercedes schlop, former spokesperson for president george w. bush. mitt romney has double the support of his closest contend, jeb bush. first of all, do you think he's going to give it another shot in spite of the fact his wife says, no, we are done, no way, no how. >> i know. >> what does it tell youbt a the gop field? >> the field is completely wide open. when you look specifically at romney, ann said they are done, done, done. we may never say never. he's probably looking at the numbers. when you look at iowa and new hampshire he's actually up in the polls as well. he's got to be thinking, why not maybe look at it? i have to say, they are drained. it was an emotionally draining experience in 2012. he's got to be thinking to

himself, you know, is it three strikes you're out or three's the charm? that's where he has to make -- seriously think about that. i don't think there is an opportunity to get in. >> without him in the race from the gop side, jeb bush leads with with 15%. rand paul second with 12%. that's where that stands. jimmy, it should be no surprise that hillary clinton has the majority. a whopping 65% of the democrats with vice president biden far behind. do you think the era of inevitability surrounding the run could turn democrats off? >> no, i don't. i look atten someone like my mother who is a conservative in south carolina. she wants hillary clinton to win. i'm pretty sure my mother probably doesn't agree with most anything that hillary clinton would ever propose policy wise as president of the united states. she wants a woman in the white house. if my mother is not an anomaly, that's the case across the country. what we know is women decide every election.

they will decide this election. as to whether they show up to vote or sit out. in 2016 if she's at the top of the ticket, it's fantastic. put up mitt romney. he would be fabulous with his binder full of women going up against hillary clinton. >> i have talked before about independence and also the liberal republican female crossing over the vote to potentially vote for her. it could be a huge thing in the election. the new york times is reporting today that there is a little bit of panic in the democratic party and the white house over the turnout of african-american voters for the midterms. they are warning of crushing losses. give me your thoughts on that? >> two things. first, it wouldn't be the worst day in the world if the democrats lose the senate. this is why. if the republicans have the house and senate, are they going to send up bill after bill filled with crazy stuff to the president? he'll veto it. then that positions us in a very good way for 2016. especially if hillary clinton is at the top of the ticket.

but in the meantime and on the fourth of november the democrats on the senate are spending around $60 million. four million staffers in battleground states. this is about get out the vote. we don't care about tv. at the end of the day if you can get african-american, latinos and young people to vote you win. >> can i ask you about the order from the supreme court yesterday to pull the texas voter i.d. law for the midterms? you have justice ginsburg writing this is purposely discriminatory toward african-americans and hispanics. weigh in on that. >> when it comes to the supreme court what they have done is they are going with the status quo saying we won't up end it so close to the fall election. it doesn't mean they are looking at the constitutionality of the law. again this becomes a big issue. it continue os be a big issue. so far it's what the supreme court has ruled on. again, further cases can come up. this is the law of the land now. >> it is. hey, good to meet you, mercedes. come see us again. >> absolutely. >> jimmy, you're an old

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