dallas under pressure as america's ebola fears center around one of its hospitals. i will talk to the city's mayor about what he's doing to calm fears. also this hour the former health and human services secretary who led the u.s. response to the bird pandemic. does he think a travel ban will help fight ebola? we have heard there is little risk of contracting ebola on an airplane. that doesn't mean you don't have to worry about germs there. we talk to a scientist who studied the germiest places on the plane. we are digging deeper into new york times article that revealed new information in the michael brown shooting. the reporter shares more about the first public details from the police officer who shot and

killed the unarmed teen. >> this is exactly what the pope wanted to have this open cleej conversation on the issues. if he wanted to be a dictator he'd say this is the way we are going to do it. that's not his style. it's not what he want it is to do. he wants to have the conversation and move toward a consensus. >> a set-back for the lgbtq community in the catholic church. the push for change is not over. good afternoon to you. i'm richard lui. the pentagon stepping in to prevent an ebola outbreak in the u.s. this medical support team consists of 20 critical care nurses, five infectious disease doctors and five trainers. they will head to fort sam houston in texas for a month long deployment. the team is designed to respond quickly, effectively and safely in the event of ebola cases in the u.s. meanwhile in a few hours we'll

turn the corner many the ebola scare at midnight. 48 people are expected to be in the clear. they will no longer be monitored by health officials for signs of the virus. all were considered initial contacts of the first u.s. ebola patient thomas duncan including his fiancee, sons and nephews. the family members will be at an undisclosed home for a few days before being moved. a second group of 75 health care workers who treated duncan when he was first admitted to the hospital, they are under watch. 25 of them spent the night at texas presbyterian hospital saturday. they could expose others. joining me is mike raulings, mayor of dallas. let's start with the latest development. i was laying out details. thinking back to when you heard about duncan, the first patient in the u.s., how would something like this, the pentagon response

team help you and other mayors that may encounter more cases. >> while this is a global issue it is a very local issue as well. with each person, each household having to be looked at. i liken it to a defense on football or basketball, a man to man defense. >> right. >> we need boots on the ground, making sure that those individuals are watched and we have communication at many levels. plus we have to fly people from time to time. so having those resources is going to be helpful. this is something we have talked to the white house about earlier this week. as you can see, they have really ramped this thing up. >> mr. mayor, tell me about the conversation with the white house. how did that go? what are some of the details you shared with the white house? >> we just talked about what was working and what our opportunities are. i expressed the insight that we

need great science but we also need great operations. we need a sense of phrase that's been used, a military cadence about this to make sure that we've got the resources, process and discipline to get it done. they understood that. i think they have been very, very responsive. >> an advertisement was just put out in the local papers there in your town. you're pretty aware of it. the hospital that treated duncan had a full-page ad in the dallas morning news. it reads texas health hospital dallas is a safe place for employees and patients. many are speculating about how ms. pham and ms. vin son both skilled and careful nurses became infected despite safety procedures. our focus is on the fact. we are determined to get the answers as soon as we can. you have been a very busy mayor in the last month.

have you spoken with health care workers? what did they tell you that surprised you? >> i think what surprises me is a sense of brother had had hoo and sister hood. they are all dealing with health care needs from time to time. involved in this hospital at this place. this has been a great hospital. there have been missteps as was reported. they admitted. we have to learn how to get better as a system with the with cdc, the health care workers, the hospitals, county people. you have been trying to answer questions about dallas itself. you have a busy job and you have to be concerned not only of your

residents and the economics out there. you had a new video you posted two days ago saying dallas is open for business. i can't imagine the amount of time you have invested in dealing with ebola. give me a sense of that. how many hours a day do you work on ebola? >> well, it started about 6:00 in the morning and goes to 10:00 at night. i'm able to do a couple of things that were important. the right amendment came down at love field. we celebrated that last monday then a couple of nights it was around the clock. i have a good partner with judge jenkins. he and i are doing this together. >> how many hours a day? four, five, six? >> on this? >> on ebola. >> oh, my goodness. 12 hours a day.

>> 12? >> between briefings and talking to people and going to neighborhoods and briefing other individuals, this is my job for the last two plus weeks. >> mayor mike raulings, go get them. thank you very much for stopping by. i know you have a busy day ahead. thank you for stopping by again. >> thank you. >> across the state in galveston the carnival cruise liner docked. on board was a dallas health care worker. blood tests confirm she's negative for the virus. she had been in isolation on oh board the ship. officials raising a red flag after learning she handled lab samples of thomas duncan. while the ship may be back they are carrying people from ebola infected countries in west africa. the cdc scanned people for symptoms. the question of oh a travel ban swarmed the talk shows today. >> what you do if you ban travel there is the feasibility of going to other countries where we don't have a travel ban. >> it makes sense logically when

you think about how to stop something. but we've got to focus on the source of this. >> we have now seen both democrats and republicans coming together saying, listen, this is a basic, common sense step. >> joining me now, michael le have it, he was secretary of health and human services secretary during george w. bush's second term. thank you for being here. your former department requested the defense department and this action team we have been describing so far at the top of the show. would you have gone to the defense department and asked for this action team? >> this seems like a logical step in the phase of this fight we are in. there are three phases. first was to smother. that didn't succeed either in africa and unfortunately here. the next is to contain it. that's where we are. the way you contain it is to have specialized facilities. could i say that the mayor of dallas, i thought, said very

wise things. the extension is that every community in america needs to be thinking about this. even if they don't have cases. because ultimately if these types of diseases begin to spread, every community has to find ways of coping with this. so the mayor and his colleague, i think, are doing an important thing but something that ought to be noticed by others. >> certainly mr. rawlings is working hard to achieve what you describeded. to help is the team that was announced just within the last hour. just to down more, the break down has 30 individuals, 20 critical care nurses. five doctors in infebruary shouk diseases and five trainers. if you were putting together the ebola reaction dream team what would you add to it? >> i would begin to lean forward and recognize that if we are not successful in containing it and we all believe we can be.

if we weren't, we could be dealing with this in a whole series of oh places around the country. just having care in one place will not be adequate. that's the difficulty with this kind of pandemic disease. it happens many places at the same time. the federal government has a limited capacity, even because it's the federal government. not because there is a lack of will or wallet. you can't send resources everywhere at the same time. >> you have a family foundation. you also have a health care consul tan si. this is a space of giving advice you are comfortable with. if the president were to say, well, mr. secretary, michael levitt, what do you suggest we do now, what would you say to him? >> there is a great deal happening now. the one thing i would continue to emphasize is what i have. we need to recognize that this kind of thing can come to a lot of communities at the same time. preparation will be in local and

state governments, not just the federal government. the federal government has a very important role. local, state governments need to be thinking about this. businesses need to be thinking about it. churches, others. we need to ask ourself it is the question, what would we do in any kind of disaster. the kind of thing we would do in a pandemic we would do for an earthquake or a hurricane or a bio terrorism event. >> let's talk about something we know well with. you led the u.s. response to the bird ban demiracle in 2005 and 2006. that was a big scare across the world. you were skeptical of travel bans. i think you remained that way when it comes to ebola. if you could describe your thoughts on that. >> i think we have become caught up in a word debate here. if we are talking about blanket travel bans that's a bad idea. if we are talking about restrictions on travel in certain situations, there is another way to call that. it's monitor and screening. being able to find those that ought the to be treated in a way to keep them out of our country.

i don't think i have an objection to that. we do it all the time. when you come into the country before ebola you fill out a blue paper that asked if you have been around certain situations. they take you aside and interview you more deeply. if you have danger then they can, in fact, quarantine you. so the words travel ban have become a little bit political really. we ought to recognize that i'm not objecting, nor should anyone to careful screening and monitoring at the borders. if we are talking about wholesale cancellation of flights, i think that does have problematic implications. >> secretary michael levitt. thank you very much for your time this sunday. >> you're welcome. >> experts saying your risk of contracting ebola on an airplane are low. that doesn't mean you don't have to worry about other germs on planes. we'll talk with a scientist who found the dirtiest places on those tube that is fly.

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today investigators interviewed teams and combed roadsides outside of virginia. human remains were found in the search for a missing university of virginia student. the 18-year-old student disappeared in september. a search team found the remains on abandoned property. it's less than ten miles from where she was seen in the early morning hours. they are waiting now for forensics experts to confirm. >> today's discovery is a significant development.

we have a great deal of work ahead of us. we will not jump to conclusions regarding today's discovery. i ask for the public's patience as we move forward. and pursue what's now a new ongoing death investigation. >> joining me now kelly avalino and nbc analyst clint van zandt. kelly, we'll start with you first. any word -- i know it's early on. when we'll get results from the forensics investigation? >> reporter: not yet. that identification can take weeks. however, i do have a feeling that the scientists at the richmond medical examiner's office will be working diligently to make a positive identification on the remains. as you said it is a death vags at this point. the search for hannah has been officially called off. i want to tell you about the location of where those remains were found and how it ties in to

the suspect in this case, jesse matthew. jesse matthew lived and grew up in that same area. where the remains were found yesterday. morgan harrington has been forensically linked to jesse matthew. her body was found five miles from yesterday. matthews has been charged with abduction in the. let's get to clint van zandt. we have the forensic process moving ahead. >> yeah. what are the essential steps and the clues that might come from what they are now doing? >> well, as you know the last person hannah was seen with alive was jesse matthews. law enforcement was able to somehow link him to her based

upon forensics. they found either in his apartment or his car. in a case like this, presumed murder right now a death investigation, you will have evidence at the point the victim was taken. you will have evidence in the vehicle she was transported in. you're going to have evidence that the body disposal site. law enforcement is being careful, trying to put together everything they can to find some type of evidence that will link the remains to whoever they think may be responsible. again, we have a death investigation now. should this be the remains of hannah graham and realize the remains are sketchy from what i hear. should the remains be here it appears it is the person they have in custody, jesse matthew. >> today we were mentioning investigators interviewing residents.

miles of roadsides. >> when you find a victim in this case this is a whole new investigation. hopefully able to link to hannah graham. if it is an item of clothing it could be rich in forensic evidence back to the offender. could be hair, fibers. saliva, dna. anything at all that might help law enforcement identity who the offender is. something as little as a cigarette butt left near a crime scene could help link it back to a potential killer.

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grand jury panelists choose not to indict wilson, an event likely to spark a fresh round of outrage. >> michael, thanks for joining us today. the piece of information. i think what most will take from -- glean from what you were reporting on is we have had so little information on what was said or what was done by officer wilson that this seems like a lot. the information you got from your source. >> yeah, it's quite interesting. you wonder why the ferguson police department didn't put this information out shortly after the incident. i believe some police departments that are more transparent would have said, look, here is the account of the officer. this ises what he says. we didn't learn that until now which is more than two months after it. >> again, we don't have what would be a standard police report. in your reporting you describe

what happened in the car, the blood on the gun. the blood inside the police car as well. no information necessarily from what you heard about what happened after that. any indication? >> no. the information that we have is focused basically on the second struggle. this is after brown is shot by wilson in the car. what happens is that brown comes at wilson again. >> as you focused in on this, did you get a sense of the timing, why this information was releaseded from this individual now? >> i think your presumes we were fed the information in a way people said, hey, we want to put

this out there. that's not how it happened. it was much more of a process of us trying to go in and find out what was going on. this information, at least to our knowledge wasn't pushed out to us. >> what did you find surprising? in this report, as you were putting it together. clearly when you laid out the details. it was the first time that if you owe confirmation of what he said during the this testimony. >> i was surprised by the amount of blood there was in the car. and that they were able to find in the car. and that brown, after he had been shot, had really gone back after wilson and that there had been such an exchange of blood there to the point that brown's blood ended up on wilson's clothes. to me it was significant and something that certainly i had not known about any of this. >> as you talked about this, after discovering this piece of

information did it affect some of the potential context this story was discussed around? we didn't know that until you reported it. >> i don't know what the context is. i don't know what the government's context is or whatever. what we do know is that the justice department which looked at this has found no evidence to lead it to bring civil rights charges against the officer. now is that something that the president knows and that's why the president hasn't said much about this? i'm not sure. certainly the feeling from the justice department is there is not enough here to bring charges at that time federal level. that doesn't get to what goes on at the local level which is the grand jury which is the question they are looking at now. >> as you discuss what effect your reporting might have or the information might have on what's happening in the city with the grand jury as well as the fbi investigation, do we know any more about that timing?

will it happen sooner or later? does this mean we are getting closer to some sort of report or outcome? >> no. certainly nothing that i know. what we do know and what's been out there is the officer did go in front of the grand jury. to legal experts and folk who is know this stuff, that's a pretty bold move for the officer to make. it certainly shows a level of confidence on his and his lawyers' behalf on his account. he didn't have to go before the grand jury. that's really putting him out there. he's playing a strong card on their half. you know, some say if they thought they had something to hide they wouldn't do that. others would say, well, he has to concoct a story. why doesn't he make it to the grand jury? most people would say. >> we have had a very informative piece.

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prepares to end her regular checks for ebola. she released a statement reading, we are so happy this is coming to an end. we are so grateful that none of us has shown any sign of illness. the quarantine is over but our time of mourning is not. we ask to be given privacy. duncan died in dallas nearly two weeks ago after contracting ebola in liberia. the family will be in the dallas area for at least a few days before being moved. meanwhile there is new debate over whether the obama administration should ban travellers from west african countries affected by ebola. dr. fauci told fox news screening passengers is effective. >> if you look at the august and september 36,000 people came to an airport in one of the three countries to get out. by the screening there, 77 were not allowed to get on the plane

for health reasons. of those 77, none had ebola. >> for now, passengers will be screened for fever and obvious signs of illness and the planes will keep on flying. let's bring in james barberi, the associate director of research at the center for detection and food safety at auburn university. thank you for being here. i want to start with this. we were just speaking with mike levitt. he said travel bans would not be effective. what's your statement on this. >> think the travel ban might not work. you have to monitor the people carrying the disease. that's an advantage to the travel ban. i see a point people are making in terms of the travel ban.

you cut off the possibility of people coming to our country. so it's a two-edged sword when you think of the problem. >> you have done a two-year study, part of which reported on the clen iliness of oh airplanes. the problems lie on the chair upholstery, tray table, armrests and toilet handle where bacteria such as mrsa and e. coli can live for up to a week on airplanes that aren't properly cleaned. that's what they wrote about the study. how serious is the situation they were describing from your study? >> my study was on two specific pathogens, mrsa and e. coli 017 h 57. we were interested in how long can these sbaerkt survive on the surfaces. we got the surfaces from an airplane cabin. >> mm-hmm. >> so we tested that.

we found that essentially on the porous surfaces they survive longer. on nonporous surfaces they do not. however the transmissability from the porous surfaces is less than transmissability from the nonporous surfaces. >> make the distinction for us. sbaerkt versus virus based on the two-year study and what you learn from that about how long ebola, for instance might survive. >> well, we did not test viruses so i can't say for sure. the airplane cabin has humidity about 20%. it's room temperature. in terms of the virus it will depend on the type of virus. there are virus that is do live for a period of time in the environment and some that don't. i don't think anybody has been able to do that kind of oh study with ebola. all i can talk about really is the survivorability of the

bacteria. the viruses are organisms that are parasites of host cells. so i would think they may be more injured by the environmental conditions unless they really get on the skin of oh somebody or are transmitted. >> james barberi, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> here is a look at some of the other top stories we are watching around the country. police in virginia waiting for forensics experts to confirm the identity of oh human remains found yesterday afternoon found less than ten miles from where hannah graham was last seen, that university of virginia student. she disappeared in the early hours of september 13th, just over a month ago. pennsylvania state police shifted the search area for eric frein who shot a trooper and wounded another last month. police are focused on the swiftwater area of paradise and

pocono townships. a potential sighting of him caused the shift. the head coach and assistants of the syreville war memorial high school team have been suspended. several football players are facing charges in connection with hazing and sexual assault. the board of education will vote tuesday night. the president of kings day college now responding to violence that erupted last night in new hampshire. students threw bolts, knocked over durpsteres and flipped cars. police in i riot gear arrested 12 people. the president say it is school is working to identify those who participated in the violence and they will be held accountable. let's look back on this day nine years ago. october 192005. that was the first day of saddam hussein's trial. he and several co-defendants were charged against crimes against humanity for the torture and murder of iraqis in 1982.

13 months later he was convicted and sentenced to death by hanging. here is how nbc news covered the first day of the trial. >> when saddam was brought into the court carrying a koran he looked tired, older. his feet heavy. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: when the chief judge asked him to state his name, a formality, saddam suddenly came to life. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: i demand to know who you are, saddam shot back. i do not recognize this so-called court. the judge asked again, and again for his name. saddam never cooperated. i am president of iraq and don't acknowledge the court or the aggression that brought it, he said. then he questioned its legitimacy quoting an arabic expression, what is founded on injustice is itself unjust. during his three hours in court, saddam appeared smug, self-assured. he leaned back in his chair, looking down his face at the judges.

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might be with this development of the final report and the voting on it, what does this mean for same-sex couples, for the church going forward? >> i think you need to look at this report, not as an ending point but a starting point. for a year-long discussion that the church will now have about family matters. the church is having the same kind of discussions that many american families have. if i have a gay son or daughter, what do i do? how do i accept them? how do i make them feel welcome? if i have a son or a daughter who isremarried, same thing. how do i keep them as part of the family, make them feel welcome? that's the discussion the church will have over the next year. the language in the final report certainly was not what some had hoped after they saw the interim report. >> mm-hmm. >> that doesn't mean the church is necessarily backing away from dealing with the issues of how

to welcome homosexuals into the church or how to -- what to do about divorced and remarried catholics, should they receive sacraments. those are issues on the table for discussion over the next year. >> give us that context. because although the same-sex couples and the gay community may have wanted x and they didn't get x, this might be a step forward. there is really interesting details we may have never heard of before. >> first of all, the fact that the church is having this discussion in public is pretty remarkable. i think the catholic church is steeped in mystery. so much of it seems to happen behind closed doors. this is a discussion that the bishops are having in front of us. they are disagreeing in front of us. the other thing is if you look at the report, you will see they vote on each paragraph. >> right. >> the votes of each paragraph are tallied there. that was something pope francis wanted. he wants this debate. he wants the debate to be

transparent. so people in the pews can see the people at the top are discussing the same issues they are. >> some of the details that you know about is this majority of more than 50% or majority of two-thirds or greater. >> right. >> that's also instructive in terms of how the church might be changing. >> exactly. i think if you look at the paragraphs about how the church proposes dealing with homosexuals and also dealing with divorced and remarried catholics, all three of the paragraphs passed by majority vote. they didn't get the two-thirds needed to be a consensus of the meeting. they did get a majority. there is certainly willingness among the bishops to address the issues. >> let's look at a portion of the final report that those who are in a same-sex couple and/or married or remarried -- divorced and remarried. men and women with homosexual

tendencies must be welcomed with respect and delicacdelicacy. it says in the final report discrimination against gays should be, quote, avoided, even though that was seen as controversial. what's the perspective in terms of sfwh of why? >> you have to look at how the church has treated homosexually. it was intrinsic moral disorder is how it was referred to. the church is well aware that kind of language today is not what people want from their church. they want a merciful church, a compassionate church. so you see the church trying to wrestle with that old language and new attitudes. the church makes very clear they are not going to put same sex marriage which has been passed in many states on the same level as traditional marriage. the church will not do that. it makes it clear. the question is now how can you

welcome gay people into the church so they feel like they are part of the church and not an outcast. the same with divorced and remarried catholics who can't receive is sacraments without an annulment. is there a different way to do this? >> quickly, if we can, you have been covering the vatican for 12 years now. >> mm-hmm. >> you have traveled with this pope. you know this pope. this is a bit of a set-back for him. >> i don't think so. some people will portray it that way. what he really wanted out of this, he wanted a spirited, open, honest debate. i think he got that. then the other thing he wanted was a report that shows people what the bishops talked about and where they came down. he got most of that. this is the man who said, who am i to judge, about a gay priest. did he get that kind of compassion in this report? no. but this is the starting point, not the finish. that's what you need to remember. >> fantastic information.

nbc's anne thompson, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> coming up, president obama hit it is the campaign trail. he hits his first stop in about

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to deal with the ebola crisis. kristen welker is at the white house. what has changed between wednesday and now that has allowed the president to shift from crisis mode to the campaign trail? >> reporter: i think part of it is that he did go into crisis mode. he canceled two days of campaigns. he held meetings here at the white house with his top officials, announced that there would be s.w.a.t. teams that would be it is patched within 24 hours of someone getting diagnosed with ebola. and he really ramped up his administration's response to the ebola issue . and then of course on friday came the big announcement that president obama is appointing what shall are calling an ebola czar, a point person to deal with ebola. ron klain, someone who served as chief of staff for vice president biden, al gore. some say he stdoesn't have a

background in medicine, but the white house pushed back seaing this is a person who knows how government works. so that's why you saw the tide turn. there are a lot of fast moving developments. still a lot of unknowns. so there is acknowledgement that while the president may be campaigning today, still can't take his eye off the ball. >> not taking the eye off the ball, and as watchers are commenting on his choice for the ebola response coordinator, they're also watching what he's doing on the campaign trail. he's headed to illinois tonight. his home state. and the questions they're asking, is the president sticking to politically comfortable states, polices where he will be welcomed only. >> reporter: to a large september he i september extent. with you hebut he's on the sidelines of the main late. he's almost exclusively campaigning f campaigning for gubernatorial elections.

the president will also spend a lot of time at fund raisers. he's already attended more than 60 fundraisers. a lot of people used to call him campaigner in chief. they say this election cycle he's fundraiser in chief. he still brings in big dollars for the democratic party. >> chrkristen welker, thank you much. have a great sunday. that is our show for this day. thanks for watching. we'll be here next saturday, 2:00 p.m. eastern, until then, keep it right here for the latest new, update and have a great evening.

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