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all-time leader in career touchdown passes breaking brett favre's record. >> good morning, welcome to "morning joe." with us onset we have professor at columbia university of school of international public affairs dorian warren. >> good stuff there. last night. >> yeah. peyton manning broke the all time career touchdown record that was held by brett favre. he did it in the first half. he needed three. he did three in the first half just for good measure. you can make the case he's the greatest of all time. we're living in an era it could be him or tom brady. his teammates love him. he's one of the smartest players that ever played the game. now perhaps the greatest quarterback ever. >> unbelievable. >> well, that must be fun for you guys. >> i want made my weekend. i'm sure you were in front of the weekend watching football seeing alabama to win. >> i did notice that they won
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like the biggest way ever. >> they woke up. >> the poor little team. >> they were terrible, obviously. did they even score a point. >> no. they wanted to. if that counts. >> i'll move on to news and politics. >> something nobody in america has ever said about texas a&m. >> the mid-terms are weeks away and democrats and republicans are jockeying for position but not just the congress at stake but the white house. hillary clinton leads all other names tested by more than 50 points and for the moment the primary would be hers to lose. mitt romney is the head of the republican party field by 10 points. he's winning with women and voters who identify themselves as very conservative. but without him the picture is muddier with jeb bush edging out rand paul and mike huckabee. and ben carson is right behind national figures like marco rubio and chris christie.
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nbc news "wall street journal" poll shows likely voters prefer a republican led congress by a five point spread. high-profile surrogates have fanned the country for both sides. bill clinton and senator elizabeth warren were in arkansas and iowa over the weekend for democrats. but throughout most of the cycle president obama has been noticeably absent. "the washington post" poll shows why his approval is upside down on everything from the economy to ebola. but he was back on the trail yesterday, campaigning in maryland and illinois for gubernatorial candidates. and in the case of the maryland defense reuters reports some of the crowd left early while the president was still speaking. >> the only thing they said yes to was another massive tax cut for millionaires. i know that's surprising but that's what happened. so you know who they are fighting for and it ain't you.
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it's not you. they are not. >> willie, a lot to talk about. first let's go back to the polls. no surprise. on the democratic side hillary clinton up 50 points. >> yeah. >> on the republican side, mitt romney ahead. comfortably leading the field if he decides to run. the romneys can say they are not interested in running but the more they hear that this guy is a prohibitive favorite without even trying i got to say the more likely they are going to jump to this thing. >> you have to stipulate every time we look at these things it's very early. we don't know what these polls mean except there's some indecision in the republican party about who the best guy would be. does jeb get in. does chris christie get back in. until we know those pieces that poll doesn't mean that much. >> dorian, we say polls, mid-term polls really just don't matter until you get down to the last few weeks. we're the last few weeks away --
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nbc news "wall street journal" poll show republicans have a five moynihan lead on democrats. that's something to pay a lot of attention to. unless you're two weeks out and other polls showing this trend and then suddenly that's a big concern for democrats. >> all the polls that we have seen in the last few weeks and months show for a republican takeover of the senate, but there's some key races that could country out anyway in the next two weeks depending on what happens. we've seen in several states in terms of alison lundergan grimes in kentucky and her position whether she voted for president obama, the president is trying to mobilize black voters in some key states, georgia, maryland, it will be interesting to watch what happens. generally the predicts from the polls show republicans holding on to the house and possibly taking over the senate. >> you mentioned elizabeth warren as she hits the campaign trail she brings an aggressive
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populist message. >> i think the game is rigged here. i think washington actually works really well for those who have lots of money, lots of lobbyists, lots of lawyers. i remember the day that i walked into my folks' bedroom, and my mother had her best dress out and i was trying to figure what this meant. i was 12. she was trying. talking to herself. we will not lose this house. and finally she wiped her face, she pulled on that dress, put on her lipstick, stepped into her high heels and she walked to the sears roebuck where she got a minimum wage job in an america where a minimum wage job would support a family of three and that's how we survived.
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>> veteran iowa reporter jennifer jacob tweeted i think it's fair to say that the crowd ofway dems absolutely loved elizabeth warren's debut speech here of the 2016 presidential cycle. >> is she going to run, mika? >> i don't know. i really don't. because i think hillary clinton has this. but i would love to see her in the conversation, that's for sure. >> if hillary doesn't she's putting herself in a position where she can. >> do you think this idea of clearing the field, hillary clearing the field is bald for her and for democrats, the fact that you have someone like elizabeth warren who has a good message, a portion of the country really relates to, can't even be talked about in serious terms until hillary clinton decides why not talk about everybody equally. >> it's bad for the democratic party that they are placing the crown on somebody two years out saying you are going to be the heir apparent. what we've seen with hillary
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what that makes her do is move more to the center, more to the center right, she gets cozier with wall street because she doesn't think anybody will challenge her on the left. she gets cozier with the foreign policy position that i've been calling her a neo-con for years. she's one of the most militaristic democrats. >> very hawkish. >> also the biggest hawk in the room and i find it stunning that the democratic party will not even allow a challenge to this sort of warmed over conservatism that she presents. >> i agree, joe. i agree wholeheartedly. i think the republicans are in better shape because they will have a competitive primary season. we should prefer competitive elections. we were saying the same thing in 2006 and 2007. this is hillary's if she wants it and then somebody came out of almost, of the shadows so to speak and emerged at this new
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candidate. the same could happen this time. >> those battles week in and week out that we covered, president obama and senator clinton were scratching and clawing. >> everyone got better. >> they all got better. hillary went from being an absolutely miserable candidate on the field to being, i think, an extraordinarily effective tough compelling speaker. she will not be with this sort of rose garden strategy without the rose garden which is what she's going to do. she's going to play it at 30,000 feet and get in a general election and get blind sided. i've seen it time and time again. this is very bad for the democratic party. >> you see this team around her that's making it very clear to others they need to keep their distance and i think sometimes having -- being challenged and bringing your opponents closer to you and letting people into the process makes for exactly what you just described. >> yeah. >> a process that makes everybody better and the best
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candidate emerges. i think it would being a great if elizabeth warren joined it. i really do. even for the conversation itself. >> and help define the party principles going into the next -- >> absolutely. politico is out with a new poll showing a pessimistic outlook for voters in swing states. 64% think things are out of control while 36% believe the country can meat its economic and national security challenges. >> look at that, willie. 64% we're completely out of control. america, a runaway beer truck. i've never seen that question asked. do you think that we are a runaway beer truck careening through the appalachians about to go into a death spiral. >> are things completely out of control. >> we have to ask mike about that. 20% thought the country is on the right track. 50% say it's on the wrong track.
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let's bring in mike allen. what's with your questions, man. >> it's very grim out there. of course who does this hurt? does this hurt the democrats since the president is in power. does it hurt republicans since republicans are running the senate? who gains, who loses from this very dower mood. >> depends on who is driving the beer truck and in the case of the nation that's the president so in senate races this mostly benefits democrats. in states, the governor who trying the beer truck and a great example of where this could hurt a republican is in wisconsin, where governor scott walker is very dependent on the right track/wrong track feeling in his state. now, the real game change in this poll is that as we've seen on "morning joe" throughout this cycle there's been this sort of low grade worry about the economy and jobs.
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but what we're seeing here, regardless of how you word the question is now a red hot worry on a number of fronts. and this includes as you delve into the polls and we have some of these specifics to show our viewers, people are worried, very worried about their health insurance and whether or not those prices are going to go up. there's mixed evidence about that. they are threat to the homeland that the islamic state could pose. this is the most interesting one. you mentioned this at the top, presidential management. believe it or not a tie between george w. bush and barack obama as to who is better off running the government. >> there you go in terms of managing the federal government. you see the numbers there. >> george w. bush seeming to be more effective, 38% to 35%. barack obama under george w. bush certainly something no one at the white house would have thought six years ago. >> no. >> four years ago.
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two years ago. two days ago. but there it is. >> it's one crisis after another the latest is the ebola crisis that's at the top of mine. another number that jumped out at me direction of the country only 20% think that the country is on the right track. 20%. >> all right. mike allen, thank you. we had a debate on the show last week about that and it got, you know, rough between steve rattner and nicole wallace over who is better at running the country. >> can we just say -- can we just say that both presidents have been very challenged in their leadership abilities for different reasons. >> yes. and i think that it's interesting to see the republicans respond to ron klain being chosen i guess not an official ebola czar but running the ebola fall out now in this
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country and they are lining up. we could play eight sound bites of people criticizing the decision at every turn. >> what do you think of that, though? >> look, it's obvious people are like why doesn't he have the medical experience. right now it's about trying to get the different organizations to work in sync with each other and in tandem. >> for me it wasn't that he didn't have the political background. i would have loved to see could lynn powell. >> emergency response. >> bring alan malawi. but with this, maybe ron will do a great job. i'm sure he's a great guy, a greet leader but here again it's somebody that barack obama knows, that barack obama is comfortable with, that's inside the cocoon, that won't challenge anything. i think a lot of americans, if he wanted to make americans feel more comfortable he would have gotten somebody like a colin
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powell or somebody from industry like alan malawi that knew how to run things. >> i also think what we have said in this set is that a lot of it is the optics of what they are already doing being channelled appropriately. and perhaps that's one of his great strengths, strategizing and making the different deputies work together. i get it. it was interesting to see them line up. this is what we've seen throughout this entire presidency, just pot shots right and left. >> i don't think it's a pot shot to say barack obama -- no, i don't think it's pot shot that barack obama has serious leadership challenges. look, you have the grimace face. i would like to take betts. historians will be writing and lumping together george w. bush and barack obama as two people
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that don't -- >> we just had this conversation. >> i don't know. >> on a range of issues. >> maybe if barack obama -- but as far as leadership knowing how to effectively run the white house, knowing effectively how to run washington, d.c., knowing effectively how to run the bureaucracies. >> we should have a surgeon general in place. >> i look forward to reading those historians that say this guy knows how to run washington effectively. i look forward to seeing that. i don't know who will write that. >> i'll be happy to call my friends in vegas and place that bet. >> still ahead on "morning joe," actor danny aiello. he didn't start acting until he was 36 years old and he played over 90 different roles. >> he said he was glad he didn't get the academy award in "do the right thing." he said if he did he would have lost all respect for the award.
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he said if i get it it's not worth a damn. >> but it's what he did before acting that could be for a movie. >> and runners in one marathon forced to wear facemasks to compete. >> and a man rescues another man from a burning building. those details next on "morning joe". turn the trips you have to take,
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♪ time now to take a look at the morning papers. >> before we do. front page of the "usa today." >> i see it. >> microsoft ceo and karma. >> we'll hear from him coming up, i think at 7:00, in our 7:00
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hour, because -- >> he's staring at you and telling you to be patient and sit back and everything will work out right. >> changing his tune. >> i think he is. >> stop being so pushy with phil griffin. he'll take care of you. just relax. kind of frightening. >> yeah. he's done a 180. >> yeah. that's good. >> might have been an unfortunate comment. we'll start with the telegraph. the runners of the 2014 beijing international -- >> is this bad -- >> completed the race despite hazardous levels of smog. organizers refused to cancel the race despite warnings over the heavy pollution. come on now. runners opted to wear facemasks. >> that's more than a facemask. >> i don't even want to say what that looks like. >> that looks like world war i. >> they were told to clean their
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skin after it was exposed to the air. >> look at this poor runner here on the front of the "financial times." she's texting her doctor. one of my lungs just dropped out. is that a bad thing. can i keep running. >> some of the athletes were unable to finish the race because of the conditions. >> that's why i don't run. >> are you going to train with me for one in a couple of weeks. >> no. >> a woman is facing charges in the first revenge porn case to be prosecuted in virginia. the 28-year-old has been charged with a misdeamnor for posting a nude picture of her ex-boyfriend's current girlfriend on facebook. officials say the woman admitted to stealing the woman off her ex-boyfriend's phone. the new law makes it illegal for people to post nude tos without
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permission. >> mika doesn't know what revenge porn is. everyone will call you that's what led to the dual between aaron burr and alexander hamilton. >> really? >> the sketches were very bad. it was awful. >> the "st. louis post-dispatch," police officer darren wilson's account of the shooting that killed unarmed teenager michael brown has been made public for the first time. in-grand jury testimony wilson reportedly said he feared for his life when he shot brown. wilson claims during a struggle inside the police suv brown allegedly shoved and punched him and reached for the officer's gun. brown's blood was found on wilson's uniform, gun and inside the police car. wilson's testimony contradict testimony from eyewitnesss. >> the "daily mail," new hampshire parents whose shot was
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killed offered the killer a home and a job after he's finished serves his sentence. it happened in 2011. he was drunk and high at the time. the victim's parents defended him saying it was an accidents and say they believe their son would want to help his best friend. >> a man was carried to safety following a dramatic rescue in fresno, california. it happened early saturday morning. you can see the man in the blue hat calmly walking up to the burning building. watch what happens less than a minute later. >> everybody is out? >> no, there's a man inside! >> oh. >> everybody out. >> oh, thank god! >> is everybody out? >> oh, thank god >> the guy just calmly walked in. >> the rescued man was treated for smoke na had a allocation.
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the house pretty much exploded into flames. >> did you see that guy walking in there just calmly. >> just incredible. >> coming up, great story, "the weekly standard" says there's a reason for -- >> you know it happened in newark with the mayor. >> be in there quickly. >> be hard to carry him out. he would carry out with one hand and tweeting with the other. >> weekly standard say there's one reason for americans to panic about the ebola outbreak. there are six. plus a look at what today's top columnist are writing about the must read opinion pages next on "morning joe". you probably know xerox as the company that's all about printing. but did you know we also support hospitals using electronic health records for more than 30 million patients? or that our software helps over 20 million smartphone users remotely configure e-mail every month? or how about processing nearly $5 billion in electronic toll payments a year?
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>> everybody talks about florida state, mississippi state, florida/notre dame game really. is that important compared to harvard's undefeated season. this weekend on espn 3. do people get espn 3. is that a real channel? >> it's a computer box. >> porno week. >> if i go to a sports bar they will be showing the harvard game on saturday afternoon? that's my plan. >> okay. bill kristol and "the weekly standard" has six reasons to panic over ebola. we'll get to that in a minute. before you panic, "the washington post," a campaign with no answers. we're sort of talking about politics and a lot of campaigning happening over the weekend as we close in on election day. the closing days, this is ruth of a closely fought election rarely offer uplifting moments, but the 2014 season has been particularly dreary, nearly
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devoid of content and high on unedifying speck cal behavior that disrespects voters knows no partisan label. consider kentucky democrat alison lundergan grimes steadfast refusal to state whether she voted for president obama. this strikes me as the wrong calculation. the voters would be alienated by a straightforward answer and already lost to grimes but i can imagine wavering voters being turned off by her dodgeiness. >> we can talk about other democratic candidates did poorly. i go back to what you said after the republicans lost the 2012 election. if you're going to win stand for something. are republicans standing for anything specifically? >> some are. i don't agree this media line it's the worst election ever. in virginia where i live, ed
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gillispie has given two or three serious policy speeches. he laid out, had the courage to lay out a conservative alternative to obamacare. >> he's losing. >> he's gaining. i actually think if you go around and look at tom cotton or those from new hampshire they are running clear policy campaigns. it's not a mystery what the republican party says in opposition to obama. 2014 is more about checking and stopping president obama and rebuking him for what he's done. 2016 has to have a big positive agenda. off year elections are different from presidential elections. >> we have some results from early voting that show promising turn out early on. iowa, georgia. few other states. >> promising for whom. >> for both parties. just for the election broadly the turn out rates are much higher than they were in 2010. >> dana millbank writes the
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nasty politicization of ebola. there's budget cuts forcing them to shelf 14 ebola grants. the nih was forced to prioritize spending to react to the most pressing currents threats rather than potential ones and because there was little ebola activity at the time shifting money to ebola from say cancer or alzheimer research wasn't a viable possibility. with ebola vaccines entering clinical trials it's not much of a stretch to conclude that with those extra research dollars vaccines would now be on the market. all right. >> i can't let that go. that would be like me telling my mother, like when i was 14 years old and i kept forgetting to tie my shoes before i went out and played football and i kept tripping on the one yard line and fumbling, mom if you only spent more money on my shoes -- no it's that i can't stand up for falling down as abbott costello would say.
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we had a congresswoman who we liked very much on friday who said all of this is happening because of cuts to this budget. no. we're talking about basic incompetency. we're talking about agencies the world health organization and the cdc not knowing how to follow set up and have people follow basic guidelines. we can have this discussion about funding later. we can't have it right now. there's gross incompetence through not only the government but health care organizations. this crisis right now is not brought about by funding. this crisis has been brought about by gross government incompetence. the time for the government to ask more money is not while they exhibit gross incompetence but when they prove to us and all taxpayers they know what the hell they are talking about and doing. >> ebola has been an issue in africa for months and months and months. >> world health organization has ignored it. the cdc --
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>> the white house has. the president could have -- look it's a legitimate policy debate about the budget levels for nih and cdc. and how they are spending the money they have. what they are spending the money is politically correct nonsense. the president of the united states could have gone to the appropriate committees in congress and said i need to reappropriate these studies going from second hand smoke from electronic cigarettes to ebola. he didn't. it's a legitimate debate. the president is the president. the democrats control congress. if they wanted to increase funding they could have. joe is right. it's a matter of government incompetence not funding. >> right now. as i said from the beginning of this debate don't put me in that right-wing republican box. >> i'm alone in the republican box. >> i think we should spend more money on the nih like we should spend more money on jaex but not until we reform them first. and right now, nih needs
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reforming, the cdc needs reforming and before we give another dime to the w.h.o. we need to make sure through the united nations that they stop being this incompetent. this crisis is upon us today because of the horrible decisions they made last spring. >> because of cuts we have no vaccine. six reasons to panic for ebola. >> that's not true but i'll let you go ahead and put that jab in. >> one jab against 20. a constitutional congress -- >> that one jab was not. >> six reasons to panic over ebola is in the weekly standard and let's go through these bill kristol. number one, start with what we know and don't know about the virus. >> well, it can be transmitted, obviously, not as easily as some people think. >> general infection rates are terrifying. >> we're over 8,000 cases.
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it's growing. the rate of growing is increasing. people who sit here in the u.s. and say only three kay sos far, one person was let in foolishly, he's infected two people. we don't know what happens next. that's a dangerous -- the growth of it is what's dangerous. >> the growth -- this is what's dangerous. i want to go back to the first question. the thing what we know and don't know. what's angered me the most is having health care officials get on tv, willie, and saying we know this. if something goes wrong, you know, it's because of a nurse who took off her uniform the wrong way. right. or a doctor that took off the uniform. like my dad. my dad was scared of flying. every time a plane flipped upside down and crashed, pilot error. a bolt falls off the engine, pilot error. could have put the thrust. that's what they are doing here. they are not exactly sure how it
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transmits. i've said this since david axelrod mocked me on "meet the press" three or four weeks ago. kent brantley who sat in africa preparing for ebola patients for a month, they set up special units to prepare, when they finally came in, kent dantley treated them and came home and he still doesn't know today how he got ebola. we're not exactly sure how this transmits because as this article presents, this isn't like the other four strains that infected human populations before. we don't know. if they would just say we're not exactly sure i would have a lot more confidence in them. >> every doctor you've seen on television are pretty sure. this is the way it's transmitted. yesterday somebody said this is a very difficult disease to get and that's the message that's put out there. the truth is the only reason it's here in the united states one guy came in when he shouldn't because there was no screening and the hospital at dallas admitted it wasn't
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prepared. >> it wasn't because there wasn't good screening because they gave visas to people in liberia to be tourists in the u.s. that's ridiculous. that exposed americans to risk. two americans now contracted ebola. secondly why were they treated at that hospital in dallas which seems like a normal suburban non-expert hospital. the head of the cdc said as matter of principle this can be treated at any hospital in the u.s. it's not that urgent or dramatic. they put the burden on this hospital which clearly wasn't ready for this. they put the burden on the nurses. now they got two people and said all the protocols are in place. the protocol are 800 pages. the nurses did their best. that's a real governmental failure. >> we should have as much concern about american lives around the flu and other things.
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>> the flu killed more americans than war in iraq but it was legitimate for people who disagreed with me this war is going well. that's a bad argument. ebola is a current threat. there's legitimate policies to debate. i'm waiting for anyone to explain why people are getting via sasse in liberia and sierra leone to visit the u.s. on a non-emergency basis. >> this entire argument, we're playing with a nuclear bomb right here, and people are saying, well, you know, more people are going to die from the flu this year than a nuclear bomb. yeah, if we hand tell nuclear material correctly. if we don't, guess what. it's going to get bad and get bad very quickly and i'm not talking about you. i really am not. but i am sick and tired of people saying oh, you're just trying to panic people. axelrod -- i went back to david three weeks ago being conde sending and he was wrong on every single point. he said this will not affect
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elections and let's look back six months from now joe and see if nothing happens. i have four children. i hope six months from now we look back and go thank god that was just like monkey pox. >> axelrod's point was the government is handling it fine. >> of course. >> they just appointed someone. >> axelrod's point three weeks -- >> he was frustrated. >> and axelrod's point was how dare anybody question the federal government for doing this. called me dr. scarborough because i quoted "the washington post" directly on three points. >> i think we should be worried about the 100,000 west africans that might die. the 100,000 that's the estimates from several experts by the end of the year. we should care. >> i know we got to go but i have to ask bill kristol this. i've been challenging liberals to stop being so smug.
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please let's not even ask any difficult questions because you're trying to panic the population. my challenge to conservatives is this, we're going to have to do what george w. bush did with aids in africa because it's not just about aids in africa, this is an international health crisis. we have to invest, we have to do two things at once and liberals don't think we can do twhoings at once. we can. we can aggressively go after ebola in africa like george w. bush went after aids in africa. we aggressively make sure we don't let it grow here. >> the other countries in west africa have taken responsible precautions. they shut off entrants from people from the infected areas. >> as did -- did you read thor to about the guy who was a business leader in one of the regions in sierra leone. you don't get in you don't get out. guess whatnot one ebola patient.
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>> bill kristol, thank you. they say president obama has a spending problem. said personal finance problem. >> i went up to a restaurant in new york when i was a member of the general assembly, and my credit card was rejected. [ laughter ] i guess i don't use it enough. they thought there was some fraud going on. fortunately michele had hers. i was trying to explain to waitresses i've been paying my bills. even i'm affected by it. thank you very much, everybody. >> the president's budget director is our next guest. we'll ask what the president needs to do not to have his credit card decline. >> are you coming back to the princeton game this sunday? >> the college games are played on saturday. >> i thought you played high school. wow! the only person i know that says that is...lisa? julie?!
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here's one of these good news/bad news cycles. good news, you're going to have to spin the bad news into good news. good to see you here. we have the office of management and budget director shaun donovan here. it shrank to $483 billion in 2013. this is an issue -- it's a reason i got into congress. so we see numbers like this and it's good news. could you explain to us this has been predicted for some time and then we understand it will ramp back up. why is that? >> well, first of all, it was predicted by the president. he said this is going be a key thing. the deficit is down two-thirds since he came into office and one of the things that's most important to focus on is not just is it down but it's below the average that we've had over
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the last 40 years. >> they have been predicting this for some time but it's actually lower than they have been predicting. the number that i'm excited about and a lot of economists would be excited about, 2.8%. any time you're below 3% of gdp you're in pretty good shape, right? >> exactly right. that's a key target. whether you call it we're back to fiscal normalcy but below average of the last four years is a key thing. >> the bad news. what will we do about it. the demographics over the next five, six, seven years this number will go back. what do we do to lessen that. >> you're exactly focused on the right thing which is in the long run we have more folks retiring than we may have in the workforce to support them. we need to make sure, first of all, we're bringing health care costs down and the good news there is health care costs are
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rising at the slowest rate in 50 years. >> that's the number one driver. medicare and medicaid, the cost of medicine is the number one driver. >> that's exactly right. one other good thing -- because costs are rising more slowly, if you look out to 2020 cbo says our costs will be lower by $188 billion just in that one year. so we are taking steps, the affordable care act is contributing to this slower growth. the recovery of the economy is an important piece of it. all of those things are key things, we need to keep pushing on those. immigration reform is another key thing we can do. that would save about a trillion dollars to 6r years if we could gelt immigration reform. >> you're beginning to see the effects of the president's policies and it appears to be good news on the economy, jobs front more people are working. the reason people are not feeling this good news wages are
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stagnant. they are not make ends meet. >> we do see americans perceiving the economy as getting better. lots of folks going back to work. the president gets letters all the time from people who have gotten a job these last few years. 1.3% drop in the unemployment rate in the last year. that's the fastest we've seen in about 30 years. you're right. wages have been not just over the last few years but over a few decades one of the biggest challenges that we had. it's accelerated a bit. we got to take additional steps. raising the minimum wage. investing more in things like infrastructure. investing in people's skills so they can ge that better job when it comes open. there's a range of thing we need to do and the president is focused on doing those things. >> shaun donovan thank you so much. great to have you on the show. >> congratulations. at least for this week. >> pushing karma aside the ceo of microsoft continues his apology tour this morning.
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pestilence, dogs living with cats. >> almost biblical. >> where are we right now with the president's strategy towards isis. we hear they are getting fighter jets. what's our strategy? you don't know, do you? >> it's not a question of whether i know, it's a question of whether they know. >> there you go. >> we're beginning to see two things are not working. one in syria the absence of a ground partner, turkey has not come over. for the first time we're seeing the administration work directly with the kurds inside of syria. that's a big break. secondly in iraq what i think you'll see is increasing work around the iraqi government. again direct support for the kurds, for the sunni arabs, our partners the iraqi government. >> the new iraqi government is weak. >> looks like the old iraqi government. >> a lot of people said there's got to be ground troops of some kind. you can't do it just from taxpayer.
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we hoped we would find partners. you say that's not been the most fruitful enterprise. will we see american ground troops? >> you've seen them increasingly inside iraq. we did it all without a status of forces agreement. the administration said that was the reason we couldn't have iraqi forces stay in iraq and now more than 1,000 americans are there without the iraqi political system. shows there's more wiggle room than people thought. yeah. you'll see increasing numbers in iraq particularly working directly with kurds and sunni tribes and less likely but potentially in places inside syria. if we have zones where kurds begin to control certain territory not inconceivable you'll see american special forces there. >> dorian? >> i'm curious about the nonmilitary strategy. what is it up to this point besides just the air strikes and potential ground troops. we know we need more than military option to defeat isis. what's the strategy?
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>> short term and long term. short term to reduce the philosophy recruits through places like turkey and reduce the flow of funding through places like qatar and saudi arabia. you're not seeing a diplomatic strategy to calm things down in syria. but at some point you could have low level talks with russia and iran. the long term is to do something that's so deeply flawed about the arab world. >> we can't fix the entire world. what if we just shake up the table right now and say, you know what? we'll double downtown kurds. the kurds are a tough fighting unit. if we can get them to take care of their region across the north, syria will not like it. turkey is not is going to like it. we really don't care. we need to bring order to this chaos. can they do it? >> certainly inside of iraq that's your major partner and letting go of the fiction that you have this intact country called iraq. i would let go of it. when this is all said and done you won't have something called
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syria and iraq any more. this border is meaningless. you'll have clusters. you'll have a kurdish area. sunni areas. shi'ite areas. this idea of this hetehogenous middle east is over. >> joe biden's idea from 2003. >> more radical than that. we were talking about areas of autonomy. >> he's called the president's pick for ebola czar. the chairman who heard testimony on ebola joins the show. new polls are giving a revealing look at the direction of the country with less than 15 days way until the elections. serena williams blasting a high ranking tennis official who should have been fired. it's weird. racist, sexist, bullying comments and he still has a job. we'll tell you what he said next. goal is to grow.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." look at that beautiful shot of new york city. >> it felt like fall this morning. >> it was cold. >> cold this morning. >> chilly. richard haas and dorian warren are still with us at the table. much to talk about today. we'll start with the mid-terms. politics. it's getting hotter. >> how did the giants do yesterday? did the giants win? because i seriously -- >> i thought this was a circle -- >> just got broken. >> how about the jets? >> they didn't play did they? >> did the jets play?
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>> what. >> thursday. >> that's right. >> okay. moral victory but an actual loss. >> giants throats the cowboys who are a very good team as it turns out. >> really? >> the eagles and the cowboys. >> the tony romo still dating jessica simpson. >> i'm going back to politics now. hillary clinton -- >> redskins won. i saw that on the front page of the "the washington post." let's go the news. >> hillary clinton leads all other names tested by more than 50 points in these polls and for the moment primary would be hers to lose. mitt romney ahead of the republican field by at least ten points. he's winning with women and voters alike. >> let's stop right there. keep going. >> who identify themselves as very conservative. but without him, the picture is muddier with jeb bush edging out senator rand paul and mike
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huckabee and newcomer ben carson is right behind national figures like marco rubio and chris christie. >> let's go back to that first one that has mitt romney up ahead. he's about ten points ahead of everybody else. pretty crazy, richard haas, isn't it, that mitt romney by not running now puts himself in first and you have to go back to that foreign policy debate where time and time again mitt romnbaa mocked him for being concerned about vladimir putin, for being concerned about other things that have blown up in the past couple of years. i think that's why voters are going wait a second this guy called it right. >> other polls say the democratic advantage in handling foreign policy and national security is fading. that will help republicans. mitt romney represents a kind of -- he hasn't been around so that makes him slightly fresher
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and he represents a managerial republicanism. in the other poll jeb bush is leading. these are not ideological people. >> it's interesting, in the poll that has mitt romney ahead he leads with female voters, and conservative voters. you don't see those two things going together very often. and then, willie, there's nbc news "wall street journal" poll that came out that talked about how americans are really concerned -- one of the questions they asked -- >> the politico -- >> it's a politic sko poll. this is nbc news "wall street journal" poll republicans have a five-point lead. these things don't mean nothing until you get close to the election. we're two weeks away. i wonder if we're starting to see a slight trend towards a republican party that's concerning a lot of democrats. >> same thing whoever the president is, there's a reaction to that party.
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so they want to see some republican control. they already have control of the house. they want to see control of the senate as well. the question you were talking about with politico is the country completely out of control. >> i love it. >> this is -- >> what year it is. >> can we see the number here. because this question is the country completely out of control. this is not a question that pollsters usually ask voters. this is a question one parent usually asks another parent about their teenage boy. >> right. >> is he completely out of control. 64% of americans think things are completely out of control. we'll be serious here for one second. if democrats end up losing control of the senate and lose a lot of seats in the house, it's not going to be really hard to look back and look at the administration's handling of isis and the ebola crisis combined with everything else.
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>> what's wrong with their handling of isis. are we done? is the war over and we lost it? i'm confused. >> you, obviously, are confused because if you look -- >> it's messaging issue. that's what they lost control of. >> the president's poll numbers have completely collapsed. it's not a messaging issue. you have the president of the united states who has made one miscalculation after another for a very long time. and you're seeing that in the polls. now we could all have the debate. i've been here supportive of the president over the past month or so in many respects. i'm just simply saying, though, americans see what's happening in the middle east and they see what's happening with the ebola crisis and it looks like the president has been out of control for the past two or three months. whether that's fair or not fair -- >> it's not. >> you may not think that so you wouldn't be one of the 20% that think america is going in the right direction. the overwhelming majority of the
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teaming masses that watch you as you jump off to the south of france disagree. >> the administration did itself no favor. it set itself up for defeat. they said isis was a jv team. then it turned out to be a bigger problem. then on ebola don't get worried. it's a case of a little bit of over promising and underdelivering. that's where the administration did itself no favors. >> family members of the liberian national that died -- >> you say are saying the same thing. willie, this hurts me. can you intervene, willie on my behalf. >> you two need to work this out. >> he's done. he's out of control. >> no more counselling. >> he can't at this point. all right. what's next >> family members of the liberian national who died in dallas from ebola are marking an important milestone this
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morning. three weeks of confinement are not over for thomas eric duncan's fiancee and other relatives who had close contact with him. family members are flonger considered at risk for the virus and a dallas health care worker who was being monitored on a cruise ship also tested negative for ebola. meanwhile the pentagon says it's preparing a 30 member quick strike team in case there are more ebola cases diagnosed in the u.s. it comes as a "new york times" reporter over the weekend that president obama is not pleased with how aids initially responded. >> you know how the white house leaked this out the president is angry with his staff members. >> sure. absolutely. >> leak that out. >> the president announced ron klain former chief of staff to vice president joe biden and former vice president al gore will oversee the federal response. >> so one thing we have noticed, you look at this family that's now, duncan's family that's freed up, it seems -- i think
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it's really telling that the people who treated duncan when he first went to the hospital, when he a fever, had ebola but not the later stages of ebola no one got infected in that time period, when no one was wearing hazmat suits or taking precautions, then he went home and came back in advance stages even with the hazmat suits, unbelievably contagious. like a lot of health care workers said, chances are good if you're flying with someone on an airplane even if they have ebola in the early stages you won pick it up. it's in those later stages when it becomes so contagious they still don't know what the proper protocols are now. >> joining us now tim murphy of pennsylvania who chairs the oversight and investigations subcommittee, and i guess, first of all, let's talk about the ebola czar. i take it you are critical of this choice. >> well, look. this is a very uncertain course we're going through here.
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there's a lot we don't know about ebola, and we don't know what we don't know. it goes that far. after the hearings it was clear that even the experts have a great deal of concerns with moving forward. i think at this time when america is very worried and very anxious about this we didn't need someone who was a political person who has worked on campaigns before. i didn't hear anybody at that hearing saying please put somebody in charge of us who works on campaigns. there's is a great deal that still needs to be done in this nation. my request to the president was travel restrictions on non-essential travel. making sure we're training more people. create more centers who can handle ebola. advance research at a faster speed. tell us what congress needs to do. have more transport mechanisms, et cetera and continue to put a great deal of work into africa. that's the things we need to be focusing on at this time to increase that whole defense perimeter for the united states. >> richard haas you suggested he
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put somebody like colin powell or mitt romney. i talked somebody like alan malawi, somebody that outside of the political sphere. it's awfully strange to me at least you put somebody in there who worked on political campaigns. >> just to be year this is not a shot at ron klain. >> it's not. >> this is nothing personal about him. look this is a disease which is insidious and pervasive. thousands have died. we don't need somebody who has to have a learning curve but somebody who understands what needs to be done when the physicians and other researchers and people involved with this make a request, someone who involved and knows his logistic, get him on board. this is dangerous. >> willie geist is here with a question. >> congressman to take a step back, does adding another layer of bureaucracy, somebody else to the problem actually help? will this make things better? will we see a rapid
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transformation in the way we respond to the crisis? >> you don't cure bureaucratic problems with more bureaucracy. right now one of the problems taking place in africa, we have 300 soldiers there and the president has committed several thousand more. the reason why this is a critical time, a number of my grant workers are leaving western africa and traveling throughout africa for other jobs. there's so many thing that need to be done. my concern is someone who just has worked on other things and nothing to do with this there's too much of a learning curve and more bureaucracy isn't helpful. an ebola czar is an hhs secretary or someone within that. >> the only reason more bureaucracy might be useful you got all sorts of people inside the u.s. government and between the u.s. government and outsiders who never worked together. this may be one of these cases where bureaucratically this makes sense. you're used to having private-sector, ngo, federal and
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so forth. one thing that will change this debate is the ability to detect ebola. rather than waiting for 21 days, within an hour. but several drug companies are very close. not a vaccine but a detection kit almost like a diabetes test within an hour. >> what a huge difference that will make. >> the whole debate over travel and screening fundamentally changes. fda is looking at several drugs. that can be transformative. >> congressman tim murphy, thank you very much. one more story here. tennis star serena williams is firing back at comments made by a member of the international olympic committee who referred to her as one of the quote williams brothers and also called her scary. williams called the comments made by shamil tarpischev quote, very insensitive, extremely sexist, racist and bullying. shamil tarpischev apologized after being fined $25,000 as
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head of the russian tennis federation and he's banned from tour involvement for a year. >> there was a meeting between bib hops and cardinals in pushing for a more inclusive church. the final version said homosexuals have gifts and qualities that should be welcomed by the church. it signaled an openness to divorced catholics by a vote of 118-62. bishops still approved this statement. nonetheless men and women with homosexual tendencies must be welcomed with respect and delicacy. >> the pope included the revised statement even though it fell short of a needed two-thirds majority. the final edited document shows there's deep divisions within the catholic church and conservative catholics won out. during sunday's mass pope francis said god is not afraid of new things. he also urged church leaders to accept ways that society has changed. >> mika -- >> don't you love that
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statement? >> i think it's a great statement. i think it's fantastic that they are having the debate. i think anybody that sits out there this morning and says oh, the catholic church is so backwards and so this and so that because they didn't accept the whole thing needs to remember, all right, the church -- this has been doctrine for over 2,000 years and the united states of america in 2004, republicans won elections by running anti-gay marriage campaigns, just because we changed as quickly as we've changed in america in ten years doesn't and invatican is going to whip one way suddenly. they are having the discussion, though. and that's extraordinarily important. it's important for the church and it's important -- >> it's a discussion brilliantly being led by this pope. he's not forcing anything. he's not trying to sort of push it through unnaturally. he's really trying to make everybody question their own
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consciences and sense of perfection and judgment. >> even in the vote there's not condemnation, there's openness. >> as you said it's almost better that things don't get whipped through. when fundamental change happens there's a kay for gradualism. >> that's why that one sentence kind of, quite frankly undermines the critics. >> gradualism that's certainly a lot more acceptable to, to those in the church that may believe in same sex marriage. because you've got somebody at the top that you feel like is actually sympathetic to your position and actually -- >> human. >> the most important thing when you walk through the church doors instead of feeling like at outcast you feel like they want you there, willie and you get that sense by looking at this. >> he's doing two things. yes he's speaking out for what believes is the right thing but
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it's strategic. he know for the church to survive you'll have a whole generation of people looking at the doctrine saying this has no relationship to how i see the world. >> it's not about gays and lesbians. >> poverty inequality. a range of crises in the world. this church is in a crisis of membership. this is a huge step forward that legitimatizes the debate and institution and allows people entry instead of exclusion. >> still ahead rear admiral john kirby joins us. plus facing skrut tiny over comments he made about equal pay for women in the workplace, satya nadella gives his first television interview as ceo of microsoft. we'll hear from him next. >> that's kind of a rough start. >> karma man. >> karma is going to get you.
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♪ all right. time now take a look at the morning papers. we'll start with the stuntton news leader. police belief they may have found the body of hannah graham. human remains were found outside of charlottesville. no conclusive i.d. but the parents have been notified. remains were located in the some region where the body of a virginia tech student was discovered in 2009 and police have linked 32-year-old jesse matthew jr.'s dna to both women. he's been charged in graham's disappearance. the "usa today," the dea is being used for using a woman's identity to create a fakes facebook page as port of an ongoing investigation. the woman claimed the agency
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used photos from her phone after she was arrested. the dea said she consented by allowing information stored in her cell phone to be used in their investigation. in a letter to the agency facebook said the matter is a serious breach of its policies and asked for assurances it hadn't made other fake profiles. >> the "los angeles times," police have arrest ad woman for trying to break into a california home through the chimney. around 6:00 in the morning police found the woman stuck. this is a photo -- >> look at that. >> her hands over her head. >> where is her santa hat. >> she's trapped inside. took two hours to bust her out using dish soap and dismantling part of the brick facade. >> that's a long way down. what's in that house that was worth that. >> you punch through the glass in the back door. >> willie that didn't work for you. look at your hand.
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>> "usa today" turns out more men were cutting back during the recession when it came to having kids. >> no male pregnancies between 2007 -- >> between 2007 and 2009 rates of vasectomies went up. about 5.8% of men got vasectomies in the worst years for the u.s. economy that number went up to 7.5%. >> i'm confused. >> what are you confused about. >> nothing. >> what are your confused? they didn't want to have babies during the great recession. right >> let's move on. unless you guys want to talk about vasectomies. >> give me about 20 years. >> microsoft ceo is apologizing after making tone deaf comments about equal pay in the workplace. joining us now, cnbc john ford has an exclusive interview with
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satya nadella. how did he do? >> i think he did pretty well. you can be the judge along with viewers. satya nadella had gone to a conference called grace hopper conference, which was women in technology and he was asked what should women do when they want to ask for a raise but aren't sure how. basically said well don't ask, just trust that karma will take care of it. when he talked to me he said look it was a mistake. what i said is i gave the advice that i was given that worked for me. i became the ceo of microsoft. i didn't take into account how it would sound to people that feel they have been held back from opportunities in their jobs. he's working on changing the industry and how industry looks at this. he also said this about how microsoft is doing on these issues. take a listen. >> it turns out last year 99.7% of the men's salaries are what women make. it's different than what's felt across all industries. we're doing well.
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by the way, i'm not celebrating any of it. all i said we pay equally if you're at the same level. the real issue is do we have enough people of different ethnicity and women in those levels. do we have them in our corporate vice president ranks, are we promoting people as rigorously. there's other secondary things we have to go after. to your points of course the expectation of anyone should be that a ceo like me should go to work on this and have some principles guided and the two principles that i really want to stay grounded on is equal pay for equal work and equal opportunity for equal work and we'll make progress on that. >> the interesting part there, guys, equal opportunity piece saying he's looking to make sure that women and other groups, minorities, have the opportunity to be at the same level to make those same amounts as others in the workplace. interesting conversation. he also is talking about
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microsoft's cloud initiatives, trying to push technology forward, guys. >> thank you so much. mika, you okay now? did he explain everything okay? >> actually, i was surprised. >> at what? >> because he basically said, you know, kind of pointed to culture again. he looked at the way he viewed his own experience. >> right. >> was narrow about it. >> what worked for him. designee has to take his apology a step forward. like what nancy did when she took over "time" magazine she looked at all the salaries of women and their male counterparts and raised the women to their male counterparts. he needs to take a look at microsoft's payroll and needs to bring every women up to the male counterpart. i can tell you they are not paid equally. he needs to make that public. >> for women to do the same job as men do. >> absolutely. since he's clearly admitting that he has a knowledge gap on the issue. >> i'm curious --
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>> he has to learn. he's sorry. >> you didn't like what he said. what he said is i was passing on advice that was given me. that seems pretty legit, right? >> right. when you're running a company you actually have to include other people besides people with your own culture, world view. what he's saying is he's close minded. that was his problem. >> can we go back to those chairs. get us back to these chairs. i'm curious, because these chairs, can they really be comfortable to be sitting in, t.j.? i'm uncomfortable. theysprockets. >> my answer to that one question which i interpreted super narrowly was wrong bus i answered through my experience through my career and when you
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work passionately you see rewards. he said that was a mistake i was looking through my lens. >> at a women's conference that was his advice. i think he has to do something. i don't think there's anything he can say any more. >> when we go to women's conferences do you know what mika tells women? don't act like joe. >> i do. >> she does. >> i say that. >> how do you think that makes me feel. >> maybe find your own authentic graceful way of navigating the negotiations. >> it breaks my heart in a million pieces. >> you do well for you, joe. and that's important. >> it makes me sad. >> you're very good at it. >> still ahead the long road of political come back. why some can't quit even after spending time in prison. and the pentagon has helped with a domestic response to the ebola outbreak, and many other items. "morning joe" will be right
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press secretary, rear admiral john kirby. thank you very much for being on the show with us this morning, sir. first of all, describe this 30 person rapid response ebola medical support team. i guess better late than never and also how it will help prevent and protect in this country? >> well this team is going to be on what we called prepare to deploy. 20 nurses, five infectious disease experts and five trainers. they are going to get down to texas for some training this week. so that they have all the protocols in place and they know what to do and the preparations and put on this prepare to deploy order status where they can be ready in 72 hours. that period will last for 30 days. be on that ready status for 30 days to go assist civilian medical authorities anywhere in the country that might need them. >> admiral, it's willie geist. what about the source of ebola. most experts think if you want to stop the outbreak you have to
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go to west africa to do it. what exactly is their role there, what can the united states military do? >> in west africa in keeping with the requirements laid on us by the government of liberia and usaid and cdc we have 5450 troops. those troops are focused on four line of effort. mostly there's a lot of construction going on. we're trying to get these emergency treatment units stood up and built, a training site built. two emergency training units that we're working on are on track. first one will to be done by the end of this month. second one probably the first week of november. weather has been a factor. it's monsoon season down there, a lot of rain slowing us down. the infrastructure is not so good in some of these places where we're building these units there are no roads and where there are roads they are mud most of the time. slower than we would like it to go. that's what our troops are focused on. >> admiral, it's richard haas.
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can you explain how it's possible legally for u.s. armed forces to take on the sort of role you're describing within the united states given the so-called rules and what they are allowed to do within our territory. >> sure. we actually do have the legal authorities to do this. this isn't going to violate a law enforcement role. this is nothing more than potential support and i stress potential support to civilian medical authorities if and only if they ask for that. there's novi allocation. the northern command commander has the authorities he needs to get this team ready to go. >> admiral, i'm curious what your response is to critics of the recently appointed ebola czar ron klain. do you think he doesn't have a public health or medical background but do you think he's equipped to deal with the crisis and coordinate among different agencies and the private-sector? >> our job is to support him and whatever he needs us to do. our job is to support the interagency and the government and that's what we're doing.
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>> admiral let's move on to isis. we hear isis may have gotten control of fighter jets. what can you tell us. >> we have no indication they have fighter jets in their capability or capability to fly them and we don't have any indication they have any air defense or anti-air capability at all. we're watching it very closely. >> any concerns about that. are you making preparations for it. right now do you just don't see that strategically as a limitation for what you want to do over there? >> we worry about everything here at the pentagon and we make it our business to be concerned about all those kinds of capabilities. we're watching it very, very closely. we don't see any indication they have that capability. we're watching it very, very closely. >> what's the situation in central baghdad right now, central iraq and baghdad. reports coming over the ap of another suicide bombing. >> 17 dead. >> 17 dead. appears to a lot of observers and i don't expect you to make
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any comment along these lines but people saying this iraqi government not much better than the last iraqi government. how do we up the ante in helping the kurds. what are we doing to help the kurds help themselves and help us in the process? >> there's a lot in there so let me break it down. >> one of these days i'll learn how to ask a simple question. how are you doing today, admiral. good, bad? how is your back stroke? let's start with the kurds. what are we doing to help the kurds. >> as you may have noticed last night we did an air drop of supplies to the kurdish forces inside kobani and trying to defend that city against isil. every indication we have the morning the bundles made to it the hand we want to make them to, at least the vast majority did. we're trying shore up their ability to defend that town. north of iraq, our partner nations, many coalition nations are resupplying kurdish forces there in the north. we have a joint operations
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center in erbil. they are holding their own. no question about that. let's go down baghdad. you talked about the ied attack. no surprise to anybody that isil wants to continue to threaten the capital city. this is a group that not only is a group of terrorists but they want to grab ground. they want infrastructure. they have these governs designs, this caliphate vision. it should come as no surprise they are threatening baghdad. that said we do not assess that baghdad is under imminent threat right now. there's no masses of formation of isil fighters around the capital and iraqi security fors are doing a good job stiffening their defenses. >> good to hear. last week a lot of people were talking about western baghdad being at risk. thank you for being with us. we appreciate it as always. we'll work on simplifying my questions. >> four goals -- >> by the way really quickly.
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richard, it is very important what he said, baghdad right now doesn't seem like it's under any threat. there was a concern because anbar province, everything west of baghdad seems to be going intoy isis hands. lot of concern this is going move towards baghdad right now. >> not imminent but still fundamental challenge about getting the sunni tribes to work with us rather than deferred to isis. there's real questions whether this iraqi government can organize and motivate iraqi government troops to fight for their country. that's an open question. >> okay. >> still ahead on "morning joe," four goals in the final three minutes of the game. >> i almost a heart attack. >> did you? >> yes, i did. >> roger bennett has the stunning play. >> stop. you're terrible. but first -- two men who are
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clearly you are type e. you made it phil. welcome home. now what's our strategy with the fondue? diversifying your portfolio? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*? less than two weeks from tomorrow -- we talk about a lot of exciting elections. three involving guys you heard of. edwin edwards famed former governor of louisiana now running for congress. designee loves america. >> the long time mayor of providence spent some time in the federal lock up. running again. larry pressler after almost 20 years out of office is running for his seat in south dakota. >> has pressler been to jail >> no. >> why are we profiling him
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snoom's a political come back. >> i get that theme. >> this 87-year-old man is working the phones for votes. >> i'm a politician that knows how to deliver on his promises. i'm governor edwards. >> edwards as in edwin edwards, congressat candidate who spent 16 years as governor of louisiana. before spending 8 1/2 years in prison for racketeering. he's one of a crop of candidates seeking political redemption this fall. there's 76-year-old larry pressler out for a morning jog and stunning the political world as he runs neck and neck in a race to win back the south dakota senate seat he lost in 1996. >> i have my seniority. i can be a powerful senator for south dakota. >> one person is not so thrilled about the prospects of a come back. his wife. >> she's not excited about coming back to washington. >> there's the legendary former six term providence mayor buddy,
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looking to return to city hall after a prison stint of nearly five years for conspiracy to commit racketeering. >> i did my time. in this system you get found guilty you pay the price. i've always proclaimed my innocence. >> released in 2007 from what he calls the federal gated community, the 73-year-old wants his old job back, holding court on this night at a drag bingo game. >> under the b for buddy, 6. >> why dive back in. >> we had over a decade of decline in the city. that's number one. i was looking to see who was running and none had the vision. >> he has his share of critics but what polls show providence just might give buddy another try. >> i got you out of a bad time in 1980. well i'm glad you remember it. >> even over the phone, everyone knows exact leadership who edwin edwards is. >> governor, did that gentleman say you got him out of a bad time in 1980.
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>> that's what he said. >> do you recall? >> he was very grateful. >> edwards spent the evening this way, cold calling and then catching up with voters who feel like old friends. >> hi. >> edwards who many people in louisiana still call the governor and who now has a 1-year-old son was first elected to congress 50 years ago. >> you know, a lady asked me the other day, you're 87 years old, you're retired, why don't you do what you feel like doing. i said lady that's what i'm doing. >> he's not worried about those 8 1/2 years behind bars. >> i did nothing wrong. i want to point something out i had nothing to do with my politics. nothing to do with my role as governor. >> the justice system disagreed. as we walked around baton rouge people were overwhelmingly happy to see him. >> i think he would be an excellent congressman. >> edwards provided american politics with some of its most famous quotes like this one from his 1983 gubernatorial race.
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>> that campaign provide another perhaps your most famous quote which is the only way i can lose this race is -- >> if i got caught in bed with a dead woman or live boy and, you know, there was no chance of that happening. >> edwin edwards, ladies and gentlemen. >> wow. >> so, willie, he's running for congress. why did he decide to run for congress instead of governor. >> good question. he said i rather run for governor but the law in the state of louisiana says you have to wait 15 years from the time you're released from prison to run. so he can do it when he's 99. >> that 87-year-old has a 1-year-old baby. >> he has a 1-year-old baby, yes. >> why did he meet his wife. >> she's a woman that visited him in prison. grew up while he was governor of her state. they got married and now they have a 1-year-old. >> how old is she. >> 35, 36. >> i love america. >> the deal on him it's a very
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red district. he's a democrat. people think he'll get in the runoff. he's still an underdog. buddy is leading in the polls. larry pressler is tight as well. >> he slowed them once. the only way he would -- >> no, no. they asked him if he was going to lose or not. >> this is his 1983 race. only way i could lose if i was found in bed with a dead woman or a live boy. >> there was a year, willie, where he was running for governor. he was running against david duke. >> that's my favorite. >> the klansman. his bumper sticker was vote for the crook. go ahead dean it. so they -- >> running against david duke the grand which standard of the klan. he was asked do you have anything in common. the only thing we have in common
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is we both whiz under the sheets. >> still ahead, madonna once gave danny aiello a key piece of advice. we'll find out what that is when he joins us. >> roger bennett is here with the football frenzy. i'm relieved roger is here. we'll be right back.
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we got roger bennett here. he's the analyst for blazers. roger. >> hey, roger. >> i'm telling you, man, so liverpool playing the worst team, qpr. >> the jacksonville jaguars. >> i'm watching the game. they're ahead 1-0. i'm thinking, we're going to get an ugly three points but i'll take it. what happened then? >> this was mario bartelle, their long-sufferering scorer. >> an own goal. so qpr scores a goal for liverpool. >> qpr did the unexpected, they
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righted a wrong by equalizing chaos in the lir poverpool defe. it looked like it was going to be 1-1. then a brief moment of wonder with one minute to go. liverpool look to have -- >> by the way, by the way -- cuntino, most important moment of the game for us. >> vargas again, chaos in the liverpool defense. the protestant work ethic is reaffirmed. liverpool bang the ball home. >> second own goal. i will say belotelli was in good position there. >> you think so? he did earlier in the game shoot over the bar. mario barotelli is kind like the manny ramirez of football. how many has he scored this season? >> none in the epl, one in the champions league.
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he missed one from about four feet yesterday. a huge disappointment. >> liverpool only have two weaknesses. one is they can't attack and the other is they can't defense. they struggled against queens park rangers. >> she's a big qpr fan. dear god, it's going to be very ugly. very bad news, sturridge out for another month. he actually looked at his leg and it broke in half again. it's just miserable. let's go on to chelsea. no doubt, most dominant team. >> five points clear at the top of the table. >> unbelievable, five points clear this early. >> the passing along the edge of the box. it's like hypnotizing, the ball movement. >> you hip ypnotize me, roger. >> i'd like that to be my phone
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message. >> so up on man city. southampton. okay, here's the deal, for anybody that doesn't follow, southampton actually traded away their entire squad, their entire squad. they're the hottest team right now in english football. they won 8-0 this weekend. >> they are america's darlings. manchester united play this afternoon on nbc sports. take the afternoon off, america. >> nobody'ser sugge ee eer ever southampton are america's darling but now that you've said it, i'm going to adopt that as well. how's your show going? >> tonight, 10:00, thank you, on nbc sports. >> the first week, mika, the first week ratings, actually higher than "american idol" in its first season. >> and "the voice" combined. >> up next, our friends at politico know how to ask a poll question, that is for sure. we'll tell you how many people think things are, quote, completely out of control. also ahead, is it a bad thing if
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so, how are things? good, good. nearly $800 billion dollars in assets under care. let me just put this away. how did edward jones get so big? could you teach our kids that trick? by not acting that way. ok, last quarter... it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. ♪ welcome back to "morning joe." dorian warren is back at the table along with joe, willie and me. >> last night -- >> patton manning broke the
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all-time career touchdown record that was held by brett favre. >> yeah. >> he did it in the first half. he needed three and he threw three in the first half, just for good measure. he's going to make the case, he's the greatest of all time. it could be one of those two guys. and he's done it with huhumilit. he's carried himself well off the field. and now perhaps the greatest quarterback ever. >> unbelievable. >> wow. well, that must be fun for you guys. >> it made my weekend. >> i'm sure you were in front of the tv watching football all weekend. seeing alabama win 59-0. >> i did notice they won in the biggest way ever. >> they woke up. >> the poor little team -- >> well, they were terrible obviously. did they even score a point? >> no, they didn't. they wanted to, if that counts. >> such a sports analyst. i'm going to move on to news and
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politic, now. >> poor little team. >> okay. the midterms are now weeks away and they're jockeying for position with not just the congress at stake but the white house as well two years from now. hillary clinton leads all other names tested by more than 50 points, and for the moment, the primary would be hers to lose. mitt romney is ahead of the republican party field by at least five points. he's winning by women and voters who identify as very conservative. without him, the picture's muddier. newcomer ben carson is right behind national figures like marco rubio and chris christie. likely voters prefer a republican-led congress by a five-point spread. high-profile surrogates have fanned the country for both sides. former president bill clinton and senator elizabeth warren were in arkansas and iowa over the weekend for democrats.
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president obama has been noticeably absent. that same "washington post" poll shows why his approval is upside down on everything from the economy to ebola. but he was back on the trail yesterday. for gubernatorial candidates. in the case of the maryland event, reuters reports, some of the crowd left early, while the president was still speaking. >> the only thing they said yes to was another massive tax cut for millionaires. i know that's surprising, but that's what happened. so you know who they're fighting for. and it ain't you. it's not you. they're not. >> willie, a lot to talk about. let's first of all go back to the polls. the democratic side, hillary clinton up 50 points. on the republican side, though, mitt romney ahead. comfortably lapping the field. if he decides to run.
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now, the romneys can say they're not interested in running, but the more they hear this guy is a prohibitive favorite without even trying, i've got to say, the more likely they're going to jump to this thing. >> every time we look at these, it's obviously very, very early. we don't know exactly what these polls mean except there does appear to be some indecision in the republican party. does jeb get in. does crihristie make his way in? they're already thinking about the last guy. >> we say that poll, midterm polls, really don't matter until you get to the last few weeks. we are the last few weeks away. nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows republicans have a five-point lead. that's something to pay a lot of attention to. unless you're two weeks out and other polls start showing this trend. suddenly, that is a big concern for democrats. >> all the polls that we have
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se in the last few weeks and months show if the republican can take over the sete, there's some key races that could turn out any way in the next two weeks, depending what happens. we've seen already in several state, grimes in kentucky, in terms of her position. the president is trying to mobilize black voters in some key states. georgia, maryland. it will be interesting to watch what happens these last two weeks. the predictions from the polls show the republicans holding on to the house of course and possibly taking over the senate. >> i've mentioned elizabeth warren. as she hits the campaign trail, she brings an aggressively populist message, especially on the american financial system. take a look. >> i think the game is rigged here. i think washington actually works really well for those who have lots of money, lots of lobbyists, lots of lawyers. >> i remember the day that i walked in to my folk's bedroom
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and my mother had her best dress out. trying to figure out what this meant. i was 12. she was crying, talking to herself, we will not lose this house. and finally, she wiped her face, she pulled on that dress, put on her lipstick, stepped into her high heels and she walked to the sears roebuck where she got a minimum wage job in an america where a minimum wage job would support a family of three. and that's why we survived. >> veteran iowa reporter jennifer jacobs tweeted, i think it's fair to say that the crowd of iowa dems absolutely loved elizabeth warren's debut speech here of the 2016 presidential cycle. >> is she going to run, mika? >> i don't know. i really don't know. because i think hillary clinton
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has this. i would love to see her in the conversation, that's for sure. >> she definitely is putting herself into a big position if she can. >> do you think hillary clearing the field is ultimately bad for her and democrats? the fact you have someone like elizabeth warren that has a good message. can't even be talked about in serious terms until hillary clinton decides? why not talk about everybody equally now? >> i think it's really bad for the democratic party that they are -- that they're placing a crown on somebody two years out, saying, you are going to be the heir apparent. what we've seen with hillary, what that makes her do is move more to the center, more to the center right. she gets cozier with wall street because she doesn't think anybody's going to challenge her on the left. she gets cozier with a foreign policy position. again, i've been calling her neocon for years. certainly one of the most
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militaristic democrats that'ser held high office. she's always, always the biggest hawk in the room. and i find it stunning that the democratic party will not even allow a challenge to this sort of warmed-over conservativism she presents. >> i agree, joe. i agree wholeheartedly with you. the republicans are in better shape because they're going to have a competitive primary season. but remember, we were saying the same thing in 2006 and 2007. this is hillary's if she wants it. and then somebody came out of almost, you know, the shadows so to speak and emerge as this new candidate. i think the same could happen this time as well. >> the battles we covered, president obama and senator clinton were scratching, claws. >>er got better. >> hillary went from being an absolutely myself rabl candidate on the field to being i think an
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extraordinarily effective, tough, compelling speaker. she will not be with this sort of rose garden strategy without the rose garden, which is what she's going to do. she's going to fly at 30,000 feet, then she's going to get into a general election and she's going to get blindsided. i've seen it time and time again. this is very bad for the democratic party. >> you see this team around her making it clear to others they need to keep their distance. i think sometimes having your -- being challenged and bringing your opponents closer to you and letting people into the process makes for exactly what you just described, a process that makes everybody better. and the best candidate emerges. i think it would be great if elizabeth warren joined it. i really do. even for the conversation itself. >> and to help define the party principles going into the next. >> absolutely. politico is out with a new battleground poll showing a
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pessimistic view. 64% think things are out of control. >> look at that, 64%. we are completely out of control. america, a runaway beer truck. i've never seen that question asked. do you think that we are a runaway beer truck? careening through the appalachians about to go into a death spiral. >> the question, are things completely out of control? >> we'll have to ask mike about that. so let's bring in the chief white house correspondent for politico, mike allen. mike, first of all, what's with your questions, man? >> it's very grim out there. of course, who does this hurt? does this hurt the democrats since the president's in power? does it hurt republicans since the republicans are running the senate?
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wh who gains from this very dour mood? >> in the case of the nation, that's the president. so in senate races, this mostly benefits democrats. in states show, it's the governor who's driving the beer truck. a great example of where this could hurt a republican is in wisconsin. where governor scott walker's very dependent on the right track, wrong track feeling in his country. in his state. throughout this cycle, there's been this low-grade worry about the economy and jobs. what we're seeing here, regardless of how you word the question, is now a red hot worry on a number of fronts. this includes as you delve into the polls, and i think we have some of these specifics, to show our viewers. people are worried about their health insurance and whether or
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not those prices are going up. they're very worried about the threat to the homeland the islamic state could pose. this is the most interesting one. you mentioned this at the top. presidential management. believe it or not, a tie between george w. bush and barack obama. about who's better off running the government. >> wow. >> all right. well, there you go, in terms of managing the federal government, you see the numbers there. wow. >> george w. bush saying more effective. barack obama under george w. bush. certainly something that no one in the white house would have thought six years ago. four years ago. two years ago. but there it is. another jump number that jumped out at me, 20%, only 20% think the country is on the right
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track. >> mike allen, thank you. we had a debate on the show last week about that. it got kind of rough between steve rattner and nicole wallace over who's better at running the country. >> well, can we just say -- >> katrina versus ebola and there was not an argument here. >> can we just say that both presidents have been very challenged in their leadership abilities for different reasons? >> yes. i think it's interesting to see the republicans respond to ron klain being chosen as sort of the -- i guess it's not officially ebola czar but running the ebola fallout now in this country. they're lining up. we could play eight sound bites of people criticizing the decision at every turn. >> what did you think of that? >> look, i think it's obvious that people are like, why doesn't he have the medical experience? right now, it's about trying to get the different organizations to work in sync with each other.
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>> for me, it wasn't that he didn't have the medical background. i would have loved to seen somebody like colin powell. >> emergency response. military. >> somebody like alan mulaly in. with this, again, maybe ron will do a great job. but here again, you have somebody that barack obama knows, that barack obama's comfortable with, that's inside the cocoon, not going to challenge anything. i think a lot of americans, if you wanted to make americans feel more comfortable, he would have gotten somebody like a colin powell or somebody from industry that knew how to run things. >> i see it, although i also think what we said in the set is that a lot of it is the optics of what they're already doing that is being channeled appropriately. perhaps that's one of his great
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strength, strategizing and also trying to make the different departments work together. i get it. it was just interesting to see them line up. the criticism. this is what we've seen throughout this entire presidency. just potshots right and let. >> i don't thing it's the potshots -- >> everything he does. >> no, i don't think it's potshots to say barack obama has serious leadership challenges that -- look, you have the grimmest face. i guarantee you, i will be glad to take bets. historians are going to be writing and they're going to be lumping together george w. bush and barack obama as two people that don't -- >> we just had this conversation -- >> oh, my god -- >> -- a range of issues, but maybe -- >> as far as leadership, knowing how to effectively run the white house, effectively run washington, d.c., effectively
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how to run -- >> we should have a surgeon general in place which -- >> i look forward, saying i look forward to reading that. i don't know who's going to write it. >> i'd be happy to place that bet. >> still ahead on "morning joe," oscar nominated actor danny aiello will join the table. why he's relieved he didn't win that academy award. politico has an interesting piece and the author will join us ahead. but first, bill karins with a check of the forecast. >> joe knew not to say anything during that last sentence. we're watching ana still leaving hawaii. it brought some rough surf but overall they were spared by this hurricane. some of the surf was pretty impressive out there. they enjoyed the high waves out there. it was on the south side of the
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islands. we picked up five inches of rain in honolulu. that doesn't happen very often. that's exiting as we go through today. they'll be no more effects in hawaii. very chilly, coldest morning of the year so far in the northeast. one spot on the jersey shore down to 30 degrees. in a few spots, we did end the growing season. other areas, it's considering. we had three items to watch. one is a lot of rain in the northwest. that's good. we need it in oregon. it looks like a nor'easter. you say nor'easter, people go snow, snow. no, it's a cold rainy nor'easter. some of that will be on the back side too. this is a little bit interesting, down in florida. a lot of heavy rain projected down there in cuba. maybe miami and the keys. that's where we could be dealing with tropical moisture. as far as the temperatures go during that nor'easter in boston, upper 50s to low 60s.
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time to take a look at the morning papers. >> before we do, front page of "usa today." microsoft, ceo and karma. >> changing his tune. >> stop being so pushy with phil griffin. he'll take care of you. just relax. >> really? >> that's good. might have been in the fortunate comments. the runners of the 2014 international marathon completed the race despite hazardous levels of smog. refusing to cancel the race amid warnings over the heavy pollution. come on, now. opted to wear face masks. >> that's more than a face mask. >> i don't even want to say what that looks like. >> it's like world war i.
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>> also given water soaked sponges and were told to clean their skin after it was exposed to the air. >> one of my lungs just dropped out, is that a bad thing, can i keep running? >> some of the athletes were unable to finish the race because of the conditions. >> that's why i don't run, willie. >> it might be smog. >> i'll get you one of those world war i gas masks. a woman is facing charges in the first revenge porn case to be prosecuted in virginia since a new law took effect in july. the 28-year-old has been charged with a misdemeanor for posting a nude picture of her ex-boy friend's current girlfriend on facebook. officials say the woman admitted to stealing the photo off her ex-boyfriend's phone. the new law makes it illegal for
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people to post nude photos without permission. >> mika doesn't know what revenge porn is. >> i've never heard it called revenge porn. >> everybody will tell you that's what led to the duel between aaron burr and hamilton. the sketches were very bad. police officer darren wilson's account of the shooting that killed unarmed teenager michael brown has been made public for the first time. wilson reportedly said he feared for his life when he shot brown. wilson claims during a struggle inside the police suv, brown allegedly shoved and punched him and reached for the officer's gun. brown's blood was found on wilson's uniform, gun and inside the police car. wilson's testimony contradicts statements from eyewitnesses. >> the daily mail. new hampshire parents whose son was shot and killed by his best friend will offer their son's killer a room in their own home
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hey, with us now, we've got the founder of tina brown live media and the women of the world summit, tina brown. thank you for being with us, tina. >> and from washington, senior congressional reporter for politico, manu roju. he writes, obama's standing with women hurts senate democrats. reads, with two weeks until election it a, the president's diminished standing with women is quickly becoming one of the biggest liabilities facing democrats as they struggle to hang on to the senate majority. in battleground states across the country, obama is under water with female voters, especially women unaffiliated with the political party. and it's making it harder for democrats to take advantage of the gender gap according to public polling and democratic -- >> so this is really surprising for a lot of people, if you listen to the chattering classes on tv, if you read open edds, you hear about the republican's, quote, war on women. apparently everybody's paying
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attention to the democratic talking point except -- women. what's going on here? >> it's not that the republicans are winning women voters, it's that they're not losing women voters as badly as they have been in the past election cycles. a lot of that has to do with the president's standing in the polls with these women voters. >> but why is the president losing numbers, losing support from women? >> it's his general disapproval of the way he's handling the office. it's the malaise that the voters feel about the direction of the country. you add up all the factors that are contributing to why the president is sagging with voters across the board, and that includes women, particularly unaffiliated women. in states even like colorado, where he's carried twice and which he carried with the majority of women voters. now he is about 60% disapproval of rating among women voters in colorado. and that's hurting mark udall, who's only beating corey gardner
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by nine points among women voters but he's losing men by 17 points. in order to win on election day, mark udall really needs to drive up female voters. that's a problem when the president is is under water. >> look at this, in alaska, you actually have the democrat, beg gi beg begich, under water. very surprising here, look at that, in kentucky, allison grimes really in a dead heat with mitch mcconnell. >> what do you think is behind these numbers? especially withm manu saying they're losing women. i didn't know they had any. >> this year, far more disciplined. they have their rabbie shots.
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>> nobody's trying to redefine rape, that's a good move. >> they've got themselves a little better disciplined. but, you know, the fact is that obama's down with everybody, let's face it, and i think that particularly for women, i don't think it makes them feel safe. i think they're feeling unsafe. they feel unsafe economically. they're feeling unsafe with regard to isis. what they feel unsafe about is the government response to different crisis. i think they're beginning to feel a bit that obama's like that guy in the corner office, you know, who's too cool for school, call, a meeting, says this has to change, doesn't put anything in place to make sure it does change, then it goes wrong and he's blaming everybody. at the same time, we ought to think about what republicans are doing for women. which is very little, you know. i mean, they were against -- >> well, this president -- >> they blocked the paycheck fairness act the fourth time since 2012. you know, they are really just not helping women at all.
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this gap in the economy is terrible. the fact that women are losing their jobs even more than men because of this whole kind of part-time issue and the economy's terrible. so, you know, it's not good. >> you know, though, thomas, voters vote in their self-interest. again, you can look at specific pieces of legislation where the president, as mika's said for some time, has have it right on issues women should care about. but overall, there still is a big question mark over the president and the democratic party and his policies. >> well, i think janet jackson said it best, what have you done for me lately. the first thing the president did was sign the lily ledbetter act. >> and create the council on women and girls. >> i think women are looking forward, not looking in reverse. i think allison lunder son grimes is the candidate to watch would won't even admit she voted for the president because she
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fears that would bag her when she goes out to the polls. she'd rather have hillary come out and hold hands with her, which is amazing to think that's better for her as a candidate in kentucky than to have the president come out and be by his side. >> just a very robotic candidate. she doesn't know how to answer. she could have given a strong nonanswer and tell you i didn't vote for the guy. >> when it comes to women in line with women interests, this will be the first time kentucky sends a women senator to washington, d.c., interested in seeing what allison lunder son grimes could do. take mitch mcconnell out. someone who's been in washington for a very long time. although he brings home the bacon for kentucky, that's for sure. >> narrow definition -- >> we do have two more weeks. i want to follow up with the
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questions tina brought up. whether women feel secure. 37 approve, 53 disapprove. isis, 35 approve, 51% disapprove. ebola, upside down, only by a couple of points. how much of this is that security question that tina was talking about? not just domestic security but international security and the whole kit and ka bootle. >> if you really push on abortion issues like abortion rights, paycheck fairness act, when women voters are concerned about their economic security or just the national security issues are ebola or isis. those social issues may not resonate as well with some voters that they need to turn out to the polls on election day. so i think you're seeing some of the limits on that in some key states like kentucky which you
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just mentioned. >> tina, i thought it was very interesting, the denver post, certainly not a conservative newspaper, endorsed carrie gardner. said, we're not stupid and women are not stupid. all you're talking about is contraception as if you're -- talking about mark udall, as if your republican opponent wants to take away contraception. i wonder if democrats are just sort of playing by the old rule book? republicans hate women and voters are just a little more intelligence than that -- >> it's a more sophisticated public period. everyone understands these are wedge issues. the lack of jobs. these are the things women are caring about. i think everybody felt a slight sigh of relief when chuck hagel
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announced there's a military task force to get into when ebola happens. this is the only one we trust, the military, because we don't trust government anymore. this reflects on obama. he can't portray himself as a person frustrated with government when he is government. >> thank you so much. >> tina's going to san antonio, by the way. >> yes, yes, we're doing women in the world texas on wednesday. fantastic amount of good stuff happening there. >> i love it. >> manu, thank you so much. we hope to see you again. >> tina, come back. coming up, it's an annual tradition in new hampshire but this year's pumpkin festival was frightening for all the wrong reasons. we'll tell you why the event erupted into mayhem and destruction. >> seemed like a good idea. >> actor danny aiello join s us. why he says he only knows who he is when he's someone else. yeah. we'll be right back. so right now if you get the 15 gig plan,
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i love, you know, pumpkin, fall festivals, you just watch the trees and the leaves gently fall. >> like new hampshire is one of the best places for leaf peopling. >> i don't know why we're playing smashing pumpkins music in and out of this tease. confusing. >> state college in new hampshire -- >> i love keys. that's a great college. >> to take action against the students who took things way too far. >> what happened? >> the party is the annual tradition there. as nbc's ron mott reports, this year's event saw unprecedented mayhem and destruction. >> riot police fired pepper spray into unruly crowds of young people after violence erupted just off the key state college campus in new hampshire starting saturday afternoon and lingering well into predawn
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hours. >> they just started walking on street with, like, mace, tear gas. >> authorities say both students and nonstudents from around the region drove the disturbances, raucous house parties that spilled on to city streets, overshallowing the annual pumpkin festival taking place ne nearby. >> the past four years have never been like this, it's never, ever been this chaotic. >> fires were set, vehicles damaged, campus lights toppled, bottles thrown, what officials describe as alcohol-fueled unrest that left dozens with minor injuries. at least 14 arrested. >> started a bonfire, using the fence to fuel the fire. they were actually jumping off a pickup truck parked in front and body surfing. finally, the riot police came. >> wow. >> the president -- >> that's crazy, man. >> says officials will identify who was involved and some students may be expelled. >> there's that one guy, you see, he goes hey, you know, they
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came at us with pepper spray. dude, if you flip police cars, they're going to come at you with pepper spray. i mean, come on. >> let's go to business before the bell now. let's move on. with cnbc's brian sullivan. where do you want to start? >> a couple things here. the story that caught my eye this morning, good morning, by the way, according to numerous reports, fannie mae and freddie m mac, the companies that guarantee about 60% of all mortgages written, are working on rules that will ease lending requirements for banks. the criticisms is basically banks have gotten too strict in their lending. under new rules, again, they're not enforced, they're being discussed, it will reduce the amount needed for a downpayment back down to 3%. >> okay, so let me just ask, we're still bailing fannie and freddie out, not to be the cold-hearted s.o.b., but is this really what we want to talk about now? until we reform? i'm sorry, this is what people were talking about back in 2004,
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2005, 2006. barney frank called republicans racists because republicans on the banking committee said, well, we should probably make sure people could actually afford their mortgages before we give people mortgages. >> it is an interesting debate and discussion, joe. i think you're spot on, at least as far as debate points go. the criticism is banks and fannie and freddie were way too easy. now some say they're way too hard. this 3% thing i think catches eyes because many people agree, no matter what side of the aisle, you have to have a little skin in the game when you put money down on a house. just putting a downpayment down would make it more likely you're going to remain, make payments. it's out there. it's going to generate a lot debate. we're talking about it. on a different vein today, i know you're a big fan of apple. apple pay launches today. >> what does that mean? >> mobile payment service. use that little fingerprint button. and it's not in all stores. whole foods markets, mcdonald's.
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>> that was a very brief glimpse of danny aiello's incredible 40-year film career. he's out with his memoir, i only knew who i am when i'm someone else. my life on street, in the stage and in the movies. >> i love the title. talk about it. i only know who i am when i talk about somebody else. >> playing a character, you know exactly what you're going to say at any given moment. you know who the character is. where he comes from. it's built up in your mind. life itself has changed for me so many different ways. >> isn't it amazing, the life you had before? >> well, as a kid, i was very sickly kid, and i think that sort molded me throughout. i had eczema as a child. i sat in front of the class where the teacher would be and i would be ripping myself apart with eczema and other kids were looking at me and i thought i was disgusting. i would say things like let me sit in the back or i would start
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crying. i did that for a long period of time. i found out the only freedom i had in life was to be able to play sports. i just involved myself in sports. >> so good in sports that when you were in your first film with de niro, you looked at him and said, he can't really throw the ball. >> threw like this. >> you like doing that. >> i would say he threw like a woman but today -- that was back then. we worked with him quite a bit. he was a catcher. we taught him. also he threw very funny. i said, why don't we try it this way. when i finally saw it, he had his elbow attached -- >> and still threw like that. a couple fascinate things. you had a part -- >> great actor. >> annie hall. you write in the book that you didn't realize your scenes were cut until you were in the movie theater. >> we were told by the producer of the movie that harvey
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fierstein and i did a scene. he said was the best scene in the movie. naturally, i'm invited to the premiere. i have family there, was sitting an hour and a half, not in the film. i didn't know how to tell anyone i'm not in the film. woody, he never told me. these things -- >> it's a tough business. >> you know, danny, much of your work, we all love. we thing we know you so well. but you didn't start until you were 36 so you had this life before. you worked for greyhound and you can still recite all the stops? >> may i have your attention please. on platform number three for philadelphia chester, wilming n wilmington, salisbury, princess ann, hit the peak beach, little creek and norfolk. connects in jersey city from mt. claire, denver, strousburg, mt.
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pocono, scranton wilkes-barre. bingh binghamton, ithaca. waverly, elmira. xavier. mt. pomorris. and buffalo. >> all right, danny aiello. and they fired you. >> that's right. >> not because of that, i was elegant when i did that. i got fired for a strike. >> you're executing a role. i feel like, i don't know, is it the -- >> it's interesting you say that, and it's true. >> i just saw you lock into comfort. >> i locked into a comfort zone which is a distraction from all the nasty things that happen out in life. being an actor for me was a blessing. because it gave me an opportunity to play other parts. if i, you know, was distraught in this area where it was real life, i was able to play a character and escape into something else. >> how interesting, one of your most famous lines, michael corleone says hello.
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was ad-libbed. >> joe, i'll tell you, i was nervous as hell. i'm working with francis. he gave me a part not as a result of an audition but simply interviewing me. we're going to shoot this scene. we're in rehearsal. michael played the character. i come behind him. i'm supposed to choke him. there were no lines. now, i walk out. i said, let's rehearse. he said action. i come behind him. i thought there should be a line. so like a shmuck i said michael corleone says hello, and i started dragging him to the back. francis says, what, what did you say? now i think i'm in trouble. he said, what did you just say? i said, well, ah, ah, i think i said michael corleone says hello. >> he said, good, keep it in. >> hey, baby.
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>> i only knew who i am when i'm someone else. >> to this day, i don't know what i meant by saying that. >> well, listen, cut, print. >> this is a great book. >> danny, thank you. tropical storm ana drenched the hawaiian islands over the weekend. almost 5 inches of rain in honolulu. the rest of the islands had great surfing as the storm was just far enough away not to cause any damage. as far as the forecast for your travel on your monday, a few showers and storms in miami today. all of the other major airports and cities are looking very nice for the afternoon. slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. apology accepted. i'm watching you soup people.
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