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syria and turkey. they include weapons, ammunition, medical supplies and the press secretary told "morning joe" that he believes these were successful drops. >> what we had is the bubd e8s made it to the hands we wanted to make it to. the vast majority did. they were trying to shore up the ability to defend the town. >> the supplier drops a mask escalation to beat back isis around kobani. there were air strikes around that town in the last 48 hours. we are keeping track of that. this past hour, president obama added his name to the americans who are voting early. 15 days before, he cast his mid-term ballot in chicago. early in person vieting began in illinois, six other states and the district of columbia. 35 states total will allow early voting by the end of the month. get to the polls, everybody. back here in the u.s., police in
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indiana believe they may be deal ing with a serial killer.
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it's the most uninsured metropolitan area in the country and i couldn't open up another hospital for ebola because we are seeing almost no one go. and bound to out of five flagship hospitals. others have stepped up and we are working on is setting up another building where we can handle up to ten patients if need be. >> it's easy for all of us to judge this from the outside. you are in an extraordinarily difficult situation and you know you are working long hours to keep at the community and keep panic from growing and our thoughts are definitely all with you in that effort. appreciate your time today. >> thank you, ronan. >> today will be the first day on the job for president obama's new ebola czar.
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that man is a former chief of staff to joe biden and an obama white house adviser. he will be the person to coordinate the response from the cdc to nih and hhs and even the pentagon. the federal response has been criticism almost from the start. joining me now is the former secretary of health and human services under president george bush. thank you for taking the time to join. this ebola scare is a dress rehearsal for national preparedness for infectious disease in general. how has that gone? >> importantly we have been awakened to a boy logic reality and that is that pandemics happen. we had three in the last 100 years. we had over ten that have been documented in the last 300 years. every 30 or 40 years, they occur. it's long enough apart that we get complacent and that is
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proven true by our experience recently with ebola. it's something we cannot allow to be ongoing because sooner or later we will have a pandemic disease that will spread within the united states. the experience that we just heard described would be replicated in every community in america. the federal government could not respond everywhere. not because they don't have a will or because they have insufficient wallet, but they can't be everywhere at the same time and state and local preparedness will determine the degree to which we are ready. >> if you had been running hhs during this outbreak, what is the number one thing you would have done differently? >> i cannot be overly critical of hhs. they are a three-part strategy. the first is to snuff it out wherever you can and we need to continue to focus in africa while we seem to be gaining a
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sense of stability in the united states with the three cases we have. we cannot forget that there tens of thousands of cases potentially in africa and that we could face a wave of this later. the second is then to contain it and that's what we are doing in this country and hopefully in africa. the third is a vaccine. if there is one thing we should focus on in the coming months, assuring that we have a and effective vaccine here. >> we have phase one trials that we are keeping an eye on. what is the news over the last 24 hours. chuck hagel announcing a rapid response team that would deploy to locations around the u.s. should there be additional cases. that was requested by hhs. how unusual is that and what can that accomplish? >> it's not unusual for the government to operate across the
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agencies. that's exactly the kind of thing that a federal coordinator would do. a lot has been made of the word czar, but the federal emergency response plan which is ongoing in the development over the last ten years or more actually includes a provision for the appointment of a federal coordinating officer. it's air coordinating officer and i believe that's the job. to break down barriers in between departments and to make sure they can be used. >> you know that constellation very well and to work within it, is it the right move? >> i have always believed that having a federal coordinating officer made sense. you have to do it. we have seen it in every emergency. i don't know what is meant by the president's appointment. if he is appointing someone
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external, that's not a productive thing. if it is that person who can begin to coordinate among the departments, it's a very productive thing. the use of the word czar has been a bit confusing, but the role is necessary to coordinate as we have seen here where the defense department has assets that they can request. >> it is a titanic watch. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> just ahead today. why did the supreme court make an unusual 5:00 a.m. saturday ruling that has civil rights groups up in arms. we explain everything you need to know next. ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you
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>> a little over two weeks out from mid-terms and early voting in texas begins today. candidate wendy davis voted in
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ft. worth. she and greg abbott are scheduled to make campaign stops in beaumont later. 600,000 voters could be turned away from the polls because they lack acceptable identification. the supreme court issued an order saturday morning that said texas can't apply the controversial voter id laws in the elections. elenaication in, sotomayor and ginsburg dissented. following us in washington, how unusual is a ruing like this at 5:00 over the weekend and how disruptive is this days before the election? >> the answer to a is quite unusual. the reason for it is the court made up their mind friday afternoon or evening, but it took that many hours for them to finish up. it's a little over six pages and all sorts of legal references that had to get nailed down. they wanted to put it out as
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quickly as it could rather than waiting. it came out about 5:00 a.m. i forgot part b. >> how disruptive is this going to be? they are changing the rules. >> making these constant changes would be disruptive. the judge late last month said the law was unconstitutional and texas couldn't enforce it. they went to the court and said wait a minute. we can't have these changes so close to the election. they said you're right. let's let the law go into effect and they declined to change that. they asked the court to hold on to that and put a hold on it so it couldn't be used. the court decided not to do that and let the law go into effect. >> they set out seven forms that includes concealed licenses and interesting omissions. you couldn't use a college student id. >> some states permit students
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that are in state to use ids issued by a state institution. texas does not. texas does not allow people to use their federally-issued indian tribe ids or a veteran's affairs id. the most common one is a driver's license. there also state ids. the issue here really is, are these restrictions going to prevent people from voting? they said yes, that's where the number came from. the state said that's a vast overestimate of the effect this would have. there is a lot of dubeication and no one really knows. in a sense no one knows on either side of this. there is good evidence on what effects these laws have on voter turn out. there is a lot of evidence of actual voterc7r!çag where someone shows up at the polls and said hey, i'm harvey
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schwartz and i'm legally entitled to vote. what the states are saying that go for photo id, yeah, there may not be much evidence, but there is nothing wrong with tightening the law more. the supreme court did uphold the idea of voter id several years ago. the supreme court said it is not unconstitutional to have the voter id in principal. because of the texas case, it's from another state. i think this voter id issue will come back to the supreme court to look at whether in practice the strictest forms of voter id go too far. >> one camp that is clear is the justices saying this likely imposes an unconstitutional poll tax. this is a quote and risks denying the right to vote to hundreds of thousands of voters. we will see how this plays out. appreciate the update.
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>> welcome back from breaking news we are continue to following that we brought you at the top of the show. the first look at the man police suspect of killing seven women in northwest indiana. his name is darren van and he is a registered sex offender in texas. they will charge him today. >> we have no indication he did anything here other than a loan. his level of cooperation and the things he told us indicate that possible other victims account surface. >> a woman's body was discovered in a motel over the weekend that
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lead them to nearby gary where he was taken into custody. during the interrogations, he led them to the body sayses of six more women. look at the other stories spiking across social media as well. the ap is reporting that ex-nazis have been paid millions of american taxpayer dollars. they received social security payments including the two you see here. they received social security payments at the request of the justice department. number two, darren wilson a grand jury testimony was reported over the weekend. details that officer wilson testified that he and michael brown struggled before the final shot. there was a struggle in the control car and he claims he feared hear fist life. finally, the dog and the weather man. you may have seen this making the rounds. a canadian humane society
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forcing a woman to move from her home after threats made front page headlines around the country in recent days. gamer gate is hard to summarize. it's attacks against women in the industry gaining prominence in plays in our culture. gaming is a $21 billion industry and that number is growing fast. it's home to increasingly complex story telling. it poses tough questions about whether the culture has grown up alongside the profitability. the story start as something woe have seen a million times. a disgruntled ex-boyfriend pushing against a young woman. a game developer named zoey quinn. that was allegations that she was sleeping with a game journalist to gain favorable reviews. that included threats of death and sexual violence. first against zoey and countless
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other women in the gaming business. at the center of this controversy, zoey quinn. thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. we know you are still getting threats, but we are not disclosing your location for that reason. how are you doing? >> it's been an incredibly long two months with internet time. things flair up and vanish and they are forgotten as quickly. i'm still here. >> we are happy to hear that. it has been a brutal firestorm. the bigger debate is this. is this just a few bad apples or pull back a curtain on a bigger culture of me soj me in? >> it's complicated. we are currently at a time that is very exciting. i gravitated to this and found my calling in making games here. we are at a point where it's
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easier than it ever has been for anyone to make a game. the game tools have started to be more and more accessible and free and open source stuff is happening. that's amazing. what you are starting to see is a lot of people entering the industry that are not from a traditional background and making new and interesting things. you don't need a computer science degree or part of hundreds of people to make a game about something. in my case i had to make most of my games in three-people teams and i can make whatever i want since i don't have a boss and stockholders. now that we are starting to see so many people entering and more diversity in the player base as well, you see this explosion of creativity and backgrounds and subjects being covered. >> we are showing footage of done home, a lesbian coming of age story. a couple of games that are female centric.
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it has a stong female protagonist. this has gotten more and more diverse and home to more content. for the 40% who are being acquainted with the gaming industry no because they don't play games, what would you tell them to think of the business when all they know is hateful threats against women some >> it's troubling because i feel like gamey gate has given a lot of bad pr to the people who care about games and the people making them. just because it's named gamer gate doesn't mean it has somethingo anything to do with anybody here. there is so much progress making games more incluesive and making them more for everybody. they belong to everybody. if you play candy crush, you are a gamer. if you play call of duty, you are a gamer. if you play games about depression and feelings, you are just as much of a gamer. the people who are extreme
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voices have undone so much of that work. the medium itself is quite powerful and something i love more than anything. unfortilately people who don't want games to be inclusive and they want to keep people like me and people who play candy crush marginalized into this tiny narrowly defined definition of what they think a real gamer is. that's not reflective of the people who play games and make games. >> we are showing the stats here. male gamers between 10 and 25 years old are only 15% of gamers. there is a lot of reason to question the stereotypes. what is real is the hatred from the men sending threats. what's the message to the men? >> i really wish they would grow up. i'm not going anywhere and neither is bryanna or the other women you have been targeted aside from those who had to
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quit. not because of the threats and being so vile, because they are, but some of the writer who is quit have decided this is not worth it anymore. i can take my skills and go to any other field and not have to deal with this and i don't blame them. i love games. i love the people who make them and the people who play them. i'm not going anywhere. hopefully the people who issued these threats, the people who are responsible for the harassment and would see people like me and the other people run out, i would say all you are doing is like a death nell. you are rapidly irrelevant. >> that are is such an important message. zoey quinn is not going anywhere and neither are the scores of other women working in the industry. thank you for being so public. i know it's a difficult time, but you pulled back the curtain on something ugly for the country to see.
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>> thank you. i hope it changes. >> our thoughts are with you. zoey quinn. up next, what would a 30-person strike folk mobilized to combat ebola have to do in the united states. that's what the pentagon is planning. we will check in on the president's latest plan to fight this disease. next. in a race, it's about getting to the finish line. in life, it's how you get there that matters most. like when i found out i had a blood clot in my leg. my doctor said that it could travel to my
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and if there is another case of ebola? >> it's only here in the united states. we are talking about five doctors and 20 nurses and five trainers and they could deploy within 72 hours. they will be doing it in texas. the administration recognizes that while a lot more reports are a lot better prepared than they were 21 days ago when the case was diagnosed, it's not realistic to believe that every single hospital in every part of the country has all the resources that they would need and that there is a good reason to have experts who are trained specifically to deal with these crisis situations who can get on a plane and go and can not only be hands on, but make sure that the kind of situation that we saw in dallas does not happen and there is not a transmission of the disease. it's coming out of the pentagon where the troops have been going into west africa. this is completely a domestic
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response call. the s.w.a.t. team is something the president has been talking about for days and something they will put into action. >> sorry this under the supervision? >> it's the overall for lack of a better term. this is not what the white house uses. an ebola czar. he will be looking at the different agencies and the pentagon is one of them. all the government agencies that have been involved in this. he is the person who is coordinating the response. he will not report directly to the president and he will be using the managerial skills and they had a lot of push back from republicans and it should be the person they want who will be the oversight person. >> thanks for following this for us. >> sure.
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>> at least 454500 ebola deaths in africa. that's the current state of play. it is transmitted through bodily flutes. the story is important and interesting. experts believe it is bats, bush meat from bats that is people hunting and eating them in africa that led to this current outbreak. the former director of the cdc said humars are accidentally infected when they come into contact with carrier bats. what can the transmission from animals to humans tell us. veterinarian and epidemiologist john epstein from conservation medicine at ecohealth alliance. thanks for being here. tell us what lesson can we learn from the fact that bats are the vector?
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>> one of the things that come from wildlife is it's human activities that are making the jump. cutting down forests or expanding the agriculture and things that bring us into closer contact with wild animals. it's usually through ipsidental contact that they had the opportunity to jump. the idea of hunting wildlife whether it's bats or other animals that are infected can put someone in contact through the process of butchering. >> there is a growing body that said deforestation and poverty that drives people in newly deforested areas. those who eat bush meat are at the heart of it. what needs to be considered if we want to decouple that to the ebola link? >> hunting wildlife and eating
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bush meat is not unique to this area. this is done out of necessity. it's naive to impose a policy that said stop hunting all together. we need to find ways to do it smarter and be safer about which animals they need to hunt. they may reduce the risk of contracting that. >> tell us about the transmissibility from the bats. is it just bush meat or other kinds with the bats? are. >> in the case of e bowl, they don't have evidence of direct electronics mission and we don't know which wildlife species may have been responsible. it has been apes or gorillas. they have been infect and they will either kill the animals or collect the dead animals. the same way as it goes from
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person to person. presumably with bats, the process will put someone in contact and if the bat upper infected, the person can be exposed. >> this is how prominent bats have become. some research into why they are immune to the virus. they carry it and that has been tested and is known, but they don't exhibit symptoms. >> this is trimendous for the researchers that have deadly consequences when they get into people, but bats don't seem to be affected. bats may be minimally affected and they don't exhibit signs of disease. that's probably because of a long-term relationship that bats and viruses had over thousands of years to the point where the virus and the immune system had an understanding. when they get into a new species where the immune system has never seen the virus, it can have deadly consequences.
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it makes the virus more benign. when it jumps species, it causes disease. >> a lot of decoding of what the traits are. is it higher metabolism and the ability to fly and can they be extracted for human treatments. >> we know so middle about it. these are important questions and i don't think the science is there. there is lots to learn still. >> john epstein, appreciate it. a lot of unemployed millennials around the world. we are joined by an international guest who is trying to fix this problem. this is the subject of a big conference here in new york this week. the subject of our call after the break. an important message for americans eligible
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>> from what i see it's like the lower skill level jobs, like the entry level positions are being taken by people who have graduated college already. there is no low entry level positions left for people that are trying to get them. >> i think i'm waiting until next month to start applying. it's looking and thinking and worrying. >> students about to graduate in a generation leaving school with dwindling job prospects. economies are grappling with that challenge. david cameron announced three million new apprenticeships for people who can't find playing jobs. 40% are under the age of 25. as many as 298 million young daals are unemployed and not in school. generation jobless is what the education program international house is duck the problem. this week that group will
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convene business and leaders here in new york to search for solutions. he is the president of international house and mario derosa is a student there. thank you to both us. >> we see a sea of different policy efforts to tackle this problem around the world. apprenticeship gaining team in europe. what's working? >> well, what's working, basically we need to have about a billion jobs to fill the dearth of them for young people. what we see working early on is a coordinated effort between government, between business and between education, because the main barrier to these young people getting jobs is lack of skill set and the fact that the jobs are just no longer there. due to the new technology that has come about. so, it takes a coordinated effort. some these efforts take businesses working with local community colleges to set up training programs so when you finish a training program, starbucks has one like this, ibm, the gap has one, you immediately go into a job or a
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training program right out of the community college. it has to be a coordinated effort. this is something that affects all demographics, the well educated, uneducated, developed countries and undeveloped countries. >> you mentioned a couple companies that bring people into their workforce. what are the bad examples? >> the bad examples, i would say, is when there's no focus on really mentorship. companies that don't reward mentoring, institutions of higher learning, that don't have career-oriented programs for their students. they could be college students or graduate students. those are bad examples because they're left afloat without any direction. >> mario, you're an unpaid intern right now. what's the biggest challenge you have piercely faced in confronting this job environment. >> well, i'm actually now entering the job market here in the u.s. actually, already graduated from italy, my home country and my
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university in rome and here from fordham law school. i have to be honesty consider myself privilege because i can start in a competitive environment. i have great guidance at the court where i'm working now. but that's actually my feeling about all the other students and interns like me that have a lot of promise to start. even the process to get an internship itself. it has happened, especially in the law field, which is the one i'm more related with. because, for instance, in italy we have a mandatory program of 18 months for internship can actually be paid. it can be paid. that's actually a requirement for the bar exam, but it's not very often paid. and sometimes a lot of students just in the working hours for 18 months or 24 months or even more, and then after you have the opportunity to take the bar exam. >> it seems like, calvin, a dearth of programs in the united states, less of a culture.
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apprenticeship. what is the root solution? how do you tackle the education gap? >> well, i think you do need to put more money, as i said, into these collaborative efforts. you need make sure students are graduati graduating. not only with a liberal education, but with some entrepreneurship. what i mean by that is looking not necessarily at what you majored in and that you should go into that field, but how do you capitalize on the basic skill set you have in terms of analytical skills, reasoning, your ability to have good public relations. how do you capitalize that to do other things you might otherwise not do. you also have to be open-minded. we have classic majors now who are finding they can have a field if they know how to write code. the digital revolution has changed the nature of work. have you to be more open to it. i need more tech education. here's a specific real thing you're trying to do. your organization is partnering up with the ground truth
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reporting organization. they want to get these international house individuals, these young people you're working with, hired. you're in that category n that age group. mario, give us the pitch. why -- what is the skill set that thooes these millenials can offer? why you? >> not only my case, a lot of very interesting competitive environments we're working at the moment. there are a lot of -- there's a huge part of the unemployed youth at the moment that has just promised trademark, which are the skills acquired during the career part, the academic part before. and i think one of the -- one of the main goals of some programs to allow new students, new interns to get jobs and paid jobs and real jobs after and continues relationship with companies and so forth, that would be to capitalize the past with what they've done. for instance, international
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students, languages can they can speak. >> particularly this diverse international group of people brings a lot to the table. you bring immaturity and new ideas, a new approach to things. i think there's a lot of reason to ar gu these are exactly the hirees companies should be looking at. >> we're a cross-cultural learning center. they live together. they have leadership training. the world's problems, whether business or social, are very complex and they require people with global experience to solve them. at international house, that's what we specialize in doing. >> that's a perfect segue. we're asking people at home to help with just that. calvin sims, mario, thank you. this is a huge problem for the american economy, for the international economy. we can't fix those problems. but we can maybe do something a little different and connected some of these specific millenials to real jobs. if you have any leads for mario or any of the other 800 members of international house, you can help. they're intepgsal graduate
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students and trainees from more than 100 countries. we want you to connect them request with any leads you have. send an e-mail to enjobless@ihouse-nyc.org. tweet a picture of you or someone if your family telling us how long they are on you you have been looking for a job after graduating from school. we'll be tracking your responses and keeping up with these fabulous young students. thank you, everybody at home, that wraps up today's "r.f. daily." now my wonderful colleague, joy reid. >> very important issue. thank you for highlighting it, ronan. next on "the reid report," dallas reaches a critical benchmark in the effort to contain the ebola virus in the u.s. plus, police identify the suspect who they say confessed
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