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including his fiancee, louise troh and three members of her family. 43 others are being monitored with twice daily check-ins. >> there's zero risk that any of those people who have been marked off the list have ebola. they were in contact with a person who had ebola. the time period for them to get ebola has lapsed. it is over. so, they not have ebola. >> state and local officials in texas now have white house emissary adrian saenz on the ground, reporting directly to ron klain, who starts officially wednesday. we're learning about a 30-member pentagon rapid response team from press secretary rear admiral john kirby. >> they're going to get down to texas for some training this

week so they have all the protocols in place and they know what to do in preparations. then they'll be put on the prepare to deploy order status where they can be ready in about 72 hours. >> as nina pham and amber vinson, the two texas presbyterian nurses remain in isolation units on the east coast, ms. vinson's family is defending her in her decision to travel the day before diagnosis. let's meet sarah doloff. so sd she have someone to go? >> reporter: she and her family will be moving into a new home in the dallas area. we don't know exactly how long the rent will be paid for, but we're told at least a couple months so they can start to rebuild their lives and get back on their feet. they also lost a number of belongings.

they had to be destroyed during the deacon tam nation process. we're told anonymous donors in the city are working to replace those items. like i said, to get these folks back on their feet. it's a very bitter sweet day for this family. they looked forward to the end of isolation period in getting a sense of normalcy back. they said in a quote, our happiness is mixed with sadness at the same time, my beloved fiancee, thomas eric duncan, who was also the father of my son, karsiah eric duncan, did not survive with us. we continue to mourn his loss and green the circumstances. judge clay jenkins said this is a defining moment for the city as to how these folks and the rest of this group are treated as they emerge from isolation. also want to talk about that letter from amber vinson's family defending her travel in

the days up to her diagnosis. she traveled to ohio to plan her upcoming wedding. according to the statement released by the family, she was already there when she learned her colleague, nina pham, had been degreed with ebola. i want to show you a part of the statement. in no way was amber careless prior to or after her exposure to mr. eric thomas duncan. she would not knowingly expose herself or anyone else. suggestions that she ignored any of the physician and government provided protocols recommended to her are patently untrue. federal officials told her several times it was okay to travel. >> thank you. meanwhile, while the quarantine has been lifted for dozens of people who had actual contact with thomas eric duncan, who is the only person to die from ebola in the u.s., in other parts of the country we're still seeing signs of what you might call an overabundance of caution

or a fundamental lack of understanding about the virus itself. for example, we knew yesterday morning that the texas hospital worker who was isolated on a carnival cruise ship after possible exposure to ebola tested negative for the disease. and yet after learning that several faculty and students from moore, oklahoma, were on board that ship, the stupid of moore public schools decided, quoeshgts erroring on the side of caution, employees who were on the cruise shall not report to work. students will also be required to stay out of school and any school activities. you have hawaii congresswoman and dnc chairmanwoman calling for cdc to double the current quarantine period from 21 to 4 2 days. there is enhanced airport screening but despite calls by politicians, there's no travel ban on people from liberia, guinea or sierra leone. in all of these countries you see in green, latin america and

the caribbean, there is a travel ban in place. dr. cory hebert is assistant professor at tulane medical center and been on medical missions across africa. i like to call him dr. common sense. thanks for being here. we have various places that are not directly connected necessarily to the ebola outbreak. meaning, these are people who did not have contact with eric duncan himself or one of these nurses who are now taking these steps. there's one more i want to share with you. in new jersey, children who recently moved from africa are being kept from going to school in one south jersey town, anxiety stemming from the ebola outbreak. the children, doc, are from rwanda. rwanda having absolutely nothing to do with the ebola outbreak. >> exactly. >> why would people do that? is this just really fear out of control? is there something we should be doing to make it clear to people that just because someone is from the continent doesn't mean

they have ebola or are carrying it? >> exactly. first, we have to reset our thinking. now with the advent after the release of the quarantine, 21 days, that's really good news. what that means is we need to take it down 1,000 now because we know that the odds of an outbreak happening in this country, very, very low. there's a lot of fear mongering right now trying to sell papers and magazines, i'm sure, but we must take it down 1,000. when you're starting to just label children that have nothing to do with the countries that have the help democrat epidemic really bad. we had george will out there yesterday saying ebola is airborne. we know for a fact that he -- he mentioned the study from university of minnesota. i quote, center for infectious disease and policy. my research team found this.

that's what we must stay away from when we're talking about the ebola situation in the united states. it's bottom line. >> because you have certain -- i'm going to give you one more. in minnesota you have a principal who went to zambia for his brother's funeral. he's now taking a vacation. this is a guy -- an elementary principal in hazelhurst, mississippi. if the producers could put back up the map of africa. >> please show it. >> i wanted to show people how far zambia and rwanda are from the three effected countries. look at the countries to the left, as i'm looking at the screen. and then to get a sense of what that distance really means, let's put up the map that shows the size of the continent of africa versus the size of, versus, the united states. you can fit the united states and india and several other countries inside africa.

that's how big. we're talking about a massive, massive place. >> we should have a geography lesson before we talk about more ebola. you're doing a good job of that. >> people from zambia that's physically disconnected from the zone where ebola happened is not at risk. let's talk about -- you just started to do it but i want to go back through it again. the questions people have that are making people afraid. is -- you just talked about the airborne, which is something that people are talking about. >> right. >> how long can ebola actually live, let's say o a surface? >> it could be hours to days. hours to days based on the sero type or the type of ebola or the strain. that's what people usually say, the strain. that could happen but it's rare. at what point will a person come into -- come into surroundings where someone would have vomited or if someone had diarrhea or shared blood with someone who actually had symptoms.

remember, by the time you start having very rare symptoms, then by the time you get to the hospital, sure you're going to be having those symptoms. if you're just having generic symptoms at your house, you won't be vomiting or having diarrhea anyway. so people coming into contact with body secretions, zero. >> where amber vinson tried on a wedding dress, not at risk. >> right. anything can happen but we're talking about probabilities here. the probability of that is very close to zero. it really is. >> and one other thing we should make the point, that people have criticized the response here. let's make the point, dallas hospital didn't have experience treating ebola patients. all the other eight -- seven of the eight people have gone to experienced facilities where necessity know how to treat ebola virus. they didn't know how to do it in dallas. the point is, is the overall response working? >> i think it's been effective.

we did drop the ball a little bit in the beginning, but right now we realize that since we've released it, the quarantine people are doing okay. people are not dying in the streets from the ebola virus. for people that want to think about, you know, closing the borders. let's be very clear about this, too. we didn't close the border for sars, we didn't kill the borders for flu. between sars and swine flu killed 300,000 people a year. the last time we closed the borders during the '80s for another nonairborne virus, hiv. you want to close it for hiv and ebola but not airborne viruses that kill 300,000. let's take it back to the facts. >> that's why we call you dr. common sense, dr. cory. i know your actual name is dr. corey hebert. appreciate it. thank you very much.

coming up. if you don't have the right kind of i.d., you may find yourself in some trouble at the polls in the lone star stated. it's the first day of early voting. but thanks to the supreme court, about 600,000 texans may not get the chance to vote in the midterms. police in indiana say they arrested a suspected serial killer. how the murder of a 19-year-old woman this weekend connected flois a more than half dozen other cases. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that.

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right now we're learning more about a chilling murder case out of indiana. where at least seven women are dead. officials believe there could be more victims. moments ago police in hammond and gary, indiana, identified 43-year-old darren vann as the

man they took into custody after finding the strangled body of a 19-year-old at motel 6 friday night. officials say vann confessed to hardy's murder and then led them to six more bodies left in abandoned homes in gary, indiana, over the weekend. police acknowledge there could be more victims. >> mr. vann is a registered sex offender in the state of texas, regarding sexual assault and conviction in 2009. >> the hammond police caught what i would label a serial killer. >> clint van zandt, what i notice here in this case, what stands out to me is the break in what may have been a pattern. you had six victims in gary, indiana, one victim in hammond and it was the hammond case that tipped people off. is that typical the way these kinds of serial killers are caught? >> part of this is going to be

the way police caught him. they indicate that they were able to go to the crime scene where this most recent victim was murdered. and then by virtue of tracing a phone back, they were able to find their current suspect. some of the women have been -- it's been suggested they've been in the escort business. so, perhaps, this may have been a case where he set up a meeting with this young woman. again, you touch a phone, you touch a computer, anything else, the authorities should be able to trace you back. but now we're told that he's talking freely because he wants to make a deal. you know, the deal is going to be interesting. but i think the authorities now believe they can take this guy back at least 20 years on homicides, so we don't know how prolific of a serial killer he might just be. >> that's really frightening. you talk about somebody wanting to make a deal. police have this interest in solving, as you say, potentially 20 years of crimes. is it even theoretically

possibly you would make a deal with a serial killer? >> sometimes you dance with the devil on these cases. it's the same thing authorities are working with with the suspected killer of the uva student. you know, how many other murders might he have been responsible for? so, when this case may be -- maybe the authorities would say, you tell us everything you did, you tell us where the bodies are buried and we'll take the death penalty off the table. that's the only type of deal i could see. you could offer somebody like this. they may just not want to offer it, but how many victims are out there? how many families leave that porch light turned on every night hoping their daughter is going to come home? maybe this guy can help us understand what happened to them. >> and this 43-year-old darren deon vann, convicted sex offender, convicted in texas in 2009. police chief says perhaps two of the victims were involved in pay

for prostitution scheme? does it making harder to solve these kinds of cases because there may not be the family with the porch light on or these cases fall through the cracks? >> that's the terrible thing about the so-called the world's oldest profession is men, women, chish, whoever, when they get involved in the sex trade business, many times they're not accountable to or for anyone else. the police chief said earlier today that of the seven women -- know not all have been identified so far -- but of the seven only one had a missing persons report filed for her. so, when you get in this type of business, if you're not responsible, if you're not supposed to come home, you know, tonight, next week, next month, people lose track of you. it's a shame, but in that kind of underworld type of environment, people get lost. and this is the type of victim that somebody like this guy would prey on, knowing they're

not accountable and no one like you and me to raise our hand and say, hey, our loved one's missing. help us find her. >> lastly, is there even a profile that is operative anymore, clint, when it comes to finding serial killers? we're finding them of all races of various ages. is there any way to profile -- this guy is a convicted sex offender. is there any way to profile someone as you say, do potentially 20 years worth of crimes? >> it's an interesting balance in that when they first start out, if we don't identify them, if we don't catch them, they get better. they understand mistakes they may have made that didn't lead to their arrest or maybe they were arrested and then they come back out and start killing again. but as time goes on, sometimes they feel so bullet proof, they feel that they can't be identified, they can't be caught. they make a mistake. this guy made a mistake. he got up on a phone. the phone led to him. he said so himself, gee, i never should have come in this town. i never should have done this. what a terrible way to say i'm

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it's the bottom of the hour here on msnbc. here's what we're watching right now. dallas health officials say 120 people are still bei inmonitore for any symptoms of ebola because they may have had contact with one of three people that had the virus. that's 48 of 43 originally on the watch list got the all-clear today after passing the 21-damon toring period in which ebola is known no incubate. a spanish person who was the first person to contract ebola outside of west africa has recovered from the disease. she became infected while caring for two priests in madrid. meanwhile, the w.h.o.

declared nigeria ebola-free after 42 days of zero reported cases. and with 15 days before the midterm elections, president obama cast his ballot on the first day of early voting in illinois this morning. early voting also begins today in texas, but for the first time in a federal general election in that state, voters will have to comply with what critics say is one of the toughest voter i.d. laws in the country. a month's long attempt to temporarily block the law ended in the earning l early morning hours saturday when the supreme court agreed with an appeals court that overturned an injunction against the law. even as the question of its constitutionality continues to wind through the courts. joining together to oppose the ruling were the court's three women justices, ruth bader ginsburg whose scathing dissent was joined by soniasonia. writing the greatest threat to public confidence and elections

in this case is the prospect of enforcing a purposefully discriminatory law. one that likely imposes an unconstitutional poll tax and risks denying the right to vote to hundreds of thousands of eligible voters. sharon with the naacp defense fund and texas representative trey martinez fisher. thank you both for being here. >> thank you, joy. >> i want to start with you, mr. fisher, because you are -- your group is one of those that actually bright this case because of the prospect of hundreds of thousands of texans, mainly black and latino, who will -- or possibly will be denied the right to vote in texas. do you still worry the number of potential people who won't be able to vote is as high as 600,000? >> absolutely. we know voter i.d. is really a solution looking for a problem. when you stud yt data after 2008 and 2010, 13 million people voted in the state of texas and

only two people accepted responsibility for in-person voter impersonation, but we know over 600,000 people today are registered to vote in the state of texas but do not have the forms of i.d. they need to vote in this election. it's extremely unfortunate and the decision, you know, doesn't sit well with me and lots of people in the lone star state. >> when you talk about those acceptable forms of i.d., let's go through them. in texas now, as of now, you can vote with a driver's license and election identification certificate, not sure what that is, texas i.d. card, concealed handgun license is good, u.s. passport, u.s. military i.d. or u.s. citizenship certificate. not acceptable, a college student i.d. card or a voter registration card. sharon, explain to me how it is possible that a voter registration card is not valid i.d.? and was that the reason that the dissent was so scathing? because that does seem a little bit odd. >> well, joy, this is our second go-round on this restrictive

voter i.d. law that texas imposed. we filed suit and challenged this under section 5 of the voting rights act in 2012 and we won. a federal court then found it was the most restrictive voter i.d. law in the country. it was only the supreme court's decision in the shelby county voting rights case in 2013, which essentially removed the power of section 5, that allowed texas to reimpose the same law that had already been found to violate the voting rights act. we have to file suit again. what's remarkable about this case, joy, that i think the listeners need to understand, is that when justice ginsburg surmises that hundreds of thousands of voters will be disenfranchised by a law that is discriminatory, she is not guessing. a federal judge two weeks ago found that this law, this voter i.d. law discriminates against african-americans and latino voters and moreover, she found that the law intentionally discriminates against african-american and latino

voters. that means today, when early voting begins in texas, there are hundreds of thousands of voters who are barred from voting, including our client, students, who have a university i.d., that they were able to use in 2012 to vote. they're no longer allowed to use that university i.d. no longer allowed to use the voter registration card they received prior to the law. this is a critical moment, a powerful moment. not just for texas but in american democracy. when we know and have a finding by a federal judge that hundreds of thousands of people will be disenfranchised, that the law discriminates and was designed to discriminate. and yet that law goes forward today. >> i want to come back and talk to you about that notion that the supreme court seems to be wanting to see how these laws play out rather than taking into account a trial court's finding about the intent. before i do that, representative martinez fisher, let's talk about that for a second. you're in the legislature. was it your sense when this law was being debated that it was being intentionally put forward to reduce turnout among what is

now essentially a minority that is a majority in texas? >> well, one key fact that was found by judge ramos in corpus christi was the fact that the state was running reports to look at those impacted. though knew people would be thrown under the bus and not have the resources they needed to vote. and the law went forward anyway. there was no attempt to negotiate, no attempt to expand the franchise. this is a voter i.d. legislation that's been proposed several times. every session it was killed. in 20 is 1 all the stops were pulled out, procedural rules were removed. this was placed in one single committee so they could be passed timely. let me put it to you another way. there was not a single minority that had an opportunity to represent minority texans and make sure their viewpoints were heard before this law was passed. the result in judge ramos's

decision, 140 pages, results in a poll tax and not good legislation. >> that's what's chilling to a lot of people. you did have this extensive trial that your organization participated in lit gaigating. just set aside. when you look at the record of the court, having cut early voting. allowed early vote tock cut in ohio. ending same-day registration in ohio, allow a new voter i.d. law in wisconsin, which they did delay, and now allowing this. >> i think the most charitable explanation you can have for the supreme court's action, joy, is especially what they have said in all of these cases is, we're not going to allow a change to happen so close to the election. that's what is consistent across all of these opinions.

it's important to remember the supreme court's decision this weekend does not speak to the facts that just -- that judge ramos found in her decision after our trial. and as i said, it could be the court essentially saying, we keep the status quo when it's this close to an election. the problem is that the texas case differs from all the other cases that you describe in that it has this voluminous record, in that it has this finding much intentional discrimination. and i think that's the part that's disturbing is the supreme court saying even if there is a law found to intentionally discriminate, we allow that law to go forward because it will cause confusion and will upset texas in terms of its election? i think that's why this case strikes a chord because it's materially different from those other cases because of the finding of intentional discrimination. >> i want to quickly ask the representative, is there a plan in place among members of your

legislation tour to try to help people acquire the acceptable forms of the i.d.? >> given that one-third of texas counties don't have a facility to get this idea, it's going to be pretty hard. make no mistake, together with our allies, we're not going to give up. justice doesn't come easy when it comes to civil rights and we'll remain steadfast in our litigation efforts. at the same time, we'll make sure all voices are heard in the courtroom and voting booth. >> thank you both for being here. >> thank you, joy. after the break, i'll speak with the man who's standing apart from other pollsters having said republicans are not guaranteed to win the senate this november. election forecaster sam wang is here with his midterm map. a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable - secure - agile.

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troops in maryland on sunday. ahead of the midterm elections, with just 15 days to go, election forecast from new york times to washington post are giving republicans the edge to take the senate. however, with many of the races within a few percentage points and with the possibilities of runoffs in states like georgia and louisiana, it's still uncertain whether the gop can get the six seats net they need to take power. sam wang is co-founder of election consortium. you are the man to talk to. it's great to finally have you on the show. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> you have this model that stands alone. you have a niche certainty predicted but basically everyone else that democrats would lose the senate. you're now giving the democrats a 25% probability of holding onto the senate and you are projecting right now a 48-52 minority in the senate. how does your model work and how do you come to that prediction?

>> it works like this. generally speaking all the modelers are currently looking at polls and all of us, whether it be the new york times or "the washington post" or me, we all see that republicans have a slight edge. the way it works is that we're all dependent on polling data. what we do at princeton election consortium. right now there are seven close races. that's 128 possible combinations and we calculate the probability of every single combination and figure out an estimate of who's liking to take control of the senate. i would say right now -- >> go on. i would say the extreme difficulty all of us face is there is some possibility of a small error in the polls. things are right on a knife's edge. i think the republicans are slightly favored but this is very much a situation where things could go either way. >> and also you have also written democrats have tended to

outperform state level polling. that's a substantial jump from previous years. what's the significance of that? there's a few things going on there. where polls are right now, if state polling in clinic race were to move by one percentage point in democrat's direction, we would have perfect toss-up for senate control. in the last two elections, as you point out, democrats have outperformed polls by three to four percentage points. there's a couple things going on there. one is midterm polling is worse than presidential term polling in 2010, democrats outperformed. it was a great year for republicans, obviously, but democrats outdid the polls. so, one of the difficulties is in midterm years, polling can be often off by as much as three or four points. for that reason, that's enough of an error we don't have complete information about what's going to happen until the

votes on actual election day are counted. >> the close senate races you picked out, we have a map of them up there. tell me which of these races -- isolate it to iowa, georgia and arkansas. which who do you think will be the most exciting to watch on elections night? >> they're all within two percentage points or less. i will say there that no matter who holds the lead in all three cases, we can't predict who wins. early voting seems to favor democrats a little bit. i'll be extremely interested to see if kay hagan can make it in the face of a libertarian candidate whose support may be fading. in georgia, michele nunn has to get over 50%. if she can get over 50%, she avoids a runoff. i'll be watching all three of those races closely. >> florida does seem to be trending toward charlie crist. let's look at georgia. >> the overall picture in governor races is that, in fact,

democrats look generally across the board to pick up several gor norships, which is interesting. in georgia, the interesting thing there is right now the two candidates are within one percentage point of each other. early voting has started in voting and something like 90,000 people have already voted in georgia and early voting is currently looking pretty strong for the democrats actually. >> we hope to have you back. so we can have more time to talk to you. thanks for being here. put your hands together for new nestlé© toll house delightfulls morsels,

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a 2012 nutrition wooek article profiling the leaders of the personhood movement described it as a new generation of anti-abortion leaders, less focused on advocacy in washington than grassroots activism but with the same goal as older groups to overturn roe v. wade and make abortion legal worldwide. the peace profile 43-year-old keith mason whose group personhood usa pushed 22 bills

and ballot initiatives that would define a federal tileized egg as a person. it would not just outlaw abortion but most forms of contraception. the first try in colorado was voted down. so was a 2011 attempt in mississippi. personhad has been tried in iowa, florida and georgia. the north dakota legislature approved a personhood bill back in march which will appear on the november ballot. they've also come back in colorado. personhood has broad support by anti-abortion activists, including politicians like cory gardner, the republican senate candidate in iowa, iowa candidate joni ernst. since personhood is not popular with moderate voters and women, they have been disavowed by those politicians. in gardner's case, he earned a denver post endorsement for his supposed moderation.

msnbc's erin carbone joins me by skooib. let's talk about the colorado bill. how is it being framed by its supporters. >> this is the third time around for the colorado bill. this time knowing that is a fertileized egg a person is something that has not won in colorado before. there's a new language that talks about protecting a pregnant woman. the part that will not appear on the ballot is pregnant women could be prosecuted under this bill. basically, they have a story of a car accident, a woman who was 8 months pregnant and there was no criminal charge for the death of her fetus. they did go back and change the law, but they exempted pregnant women from pros tuition. so, the folks that in colorado are concerned that voters will be confused. they'll see something on the ballot that says protect a pregnant woman, they'll vote for it without realizing that what they're really working for could

have pregnant women prosecuted. >> the denver post wrote an endorsement of cory gardner, who is on record supporting personhood and now walking away from it, casting him as sort of a moderate. why do you think gardner and joni ernst and scott walker aren't just owning the fact they're for personhood. they all backed away saying, whoa, that's not what i'm for. >> during the time they're in office, cory gardner got signatures for personhood on the ballot. the exceptionalism is remarkable. he said he didn't know it would restrict personhood and that's why he changed his mind. i'm sorry, he didn't know it would restrict contraception. during the campaign the contraception issue was raised again and again and again. he missed all of that messaging. why 70% of coloradans voted against it. you also have the fact that he says he no longer -- he no longer support's colorado's

version of personhood. in fact, he is still a co-sponsor of the federal life at conception act which if you talk to personhood usa, headquarters of personhood, if you look at the language, so how gardner has got an way with saying he supports one thing and actually doing another. and yet being pegged a moderate. there's some real disjunction here. >> those politicians know it wouldn't go over well with women voters. let's talk about the practical implications if the colorado bill, if the north dakota bill were to pass. what would be the practical consequences of that for women? >> as long as roe v. wade is on the book, abortion will not be banned in full. the problem is if personhood is on the books, there are other ways -- fravrm, another race in which women would be vulnerable. for example, women could be prosecuted for fetal endangerment, which opens up prosecutions which have already started to take place. then it's also possible ivf will

be impacted because they're targeting certain kinds of procedures in which they say an embryo will be harmed. >> all right. thank you so much for your reporting on this story. appreciate it. >> thank you. that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you back here tomorrow at 2 378 eastern. "the cycle" is up next. (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label

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