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from some republicans. everyone seems to forget the law that was pass that gave 10 million americans health insurance but not republic governor from ohio, john kasich, he had shocking words when asked about repealing obamacare, he said, that's not going to happen. ears perked up. he immediately clarified his remarks saying obamacare can and should be repealed. he went on to say the opposition to medicaid expansion was either political or ideological. i don't think it holds wiater with real improvement with people's lives. wow. excuse me governor. praising obamacare could be the first by any republican. he realized he made a mistake. that could ruin his the white house run so better backtrack. he did. he told the washington post, i

don't back obamacare, i never have. i want it to be repealed. it will be replaced. if obamacare is repealed a lot of people in ohio are probably going to be unhappy. you see kasich expanded medicaid in his state under obamacare. over 180,000 folks in ohio enrolled in medicaid. the number is eventually expected to go over 330,000 people. that's a chunk of folks. and of course kasich knows the people like the medicaid expansion so he backtracked again saying repeals shouldn't apply to medicare expansion saying i don't see expanding medicaid as connected to obamacare. excuse me again, the two main

parts are the state and federal exchange and medicaid expansion. medicaid expansion lowers the cost for hospitals and care provider, that's why we're saving money, obamacare is working for kasich in ohio. polls have him up up by -- 22 p. these numbers alone should convince any republican supporting obamacare it is good business there's a similar situation unfolding in kentucky. obamacare is also popular in the blue grass state. over 400,000 people have enrolled. this poses a problem for mitch mcconnell who is on the ropes. he slipped up at a recent

debate. >> kentuckyconnect is a website paid for by $200 million grant from the federal government. the website can continue. in my view the best interest to the country would be achieved by pulling out obamacare care root and branch. >> the website is pointless if you can't buy insurance through obamacare. the most reecent polls, mcconnel up over grimes by only a point. i will be there next week in kentucky. obamacare is working and people like it. how zo do you know because a year ago fox news was pounding this story, now you don't hear anything about it because 8.2 million seniors saved. per capita health care cost gruz

annually 1.1%, the slowest rate for any three-year period on record. conservatives these are numbers you should absolutely love. hospitals are projected to save $5.7 billion this year in uncompensated health care cost. that means the tax payer isn't forking out the tab when americans go to the merge room, americans couldn't go to the emergency room who can't afford care. 74% coming from states with expanded medicaid, including ohio. meanwhile kasich says medical expansion and obamacare are not connected. you can tell conirservatives ha turni turned this into a conversation about obama and personality bashing and just how bad this guy is. gosh you can't run with him because he has such low numbers. but believe me you can run with

obamacare, even in a red state. i want to know what you think, does john kasich have the character to admit obamacare works for ohioans. text us and we'll bring you results later in the show. now, if, the republicans do get the senate, so, and they're probably going to hang onto the house because of jerrymanderring, that would set the table for the republicans to come out with their plan. maybe they will do something better than obamacare. that ain't going to happen. let's bring in congress from ohio. great to have you with us. >> great to be with you. >> do people in ohio, or should i say, do more people in ohio

have health care because of obamacare. >> no doubt. whether it is the medicaid expansion or the credits in the exchange. >> so why is the governor fighting the numbers? >> i think he is just a little bit ahead of his next campaign. wasn'ts to look like a moderate. he's having this conversation with ohioans how he is this leader that can pull everybody together. i think he was making that argument to the ohioans saying is it will never be repealed. that's what you're trying to do when you're trying to pull in independent voters, then whoops. >> is there a chance republicans make kasich would come forward with a plan that medicaid expansion would be protected but it would be a different kind of health care plan that would scrap but he just said he thinks it ought to be repealed. he's all over the map. >> here's the crazy thing, he had $400,000 that he gave back

to the federal government because he didn't want to accept federal government money baend on the hook, but he will take the medicaid money. so no consistency in his plan. it will be interesting to see how he dwwipes this off his sho >> he reacted quickly. he called the associated press. that is serious damage control within the moment. which tells me that they really don't have a plan, which he caught himself saying something that would be politically damaging. do you think republicans have a plan to do something about health care if they get the power? >> no i don't think they do. can clearly they keep voting for repeal and we keep saying what is your alternative plan, even putting together the affordable care act. everyone saying what are your realistic idea that's we can

assemble together with this package and they didn't have any, and from the beginning they wanted to bash it. >> if the republicans win the senate are they able to go to the american people, 180,000 maybe 300,000, in ohio, and say we're taking it back. how can they do that? because if the democrats hang onto the hsenate, conventional wisdom is obamacare is home free. it will effect so many people by 2016 and 2018 that they will have to surrender. what about that? >> i don't think you can do it. you're pulling out the medicaid. what else is there? the preexisting condition provision that have protecting millions of americas to be denied coverage, or kids under 26 can stay under their parents, do you reveal that. those are polling higher than

medicaid is polling. >> aufll right can we come to t conclusion that john kasich, the govern of ohio is for obamacare unless he's running for president? [ laughter ] i mean, what other conclusion can you come to. >> that sums it up. i think his practical side came out and he said yep this is something we want to do. >> today it was report that mcdonald's the fast food chain, largest in the world, their profits plunged 30% this quarter. you wrote about fast food in your new book and eating healthy and the name of the book is real food. you talk about a food revolution. first of all, what do we have to do as a country. what do you make of all of a sudden mcdonald's down 30% in profits. >> the real food revolution is the inside story of what is happening in d.c. that makes

really crappy processed food cheap and subsidize it with tax payer money. by 2020 half the country will have diabetes or pre-diabetes, you're going to have to pull money out of private businesses because half the country will have diabetes. we want these manufacturers to reinvest, they won't be able to do that if half the workforce has diabetes and they're paying these health care costs. with mcdonald's people are saying we are making ourselves sick. and we're competing against china, 1.4 billion people. and competing against india. 1.4 billion people. we only have 14 million people. we better be creative, have a better attention span, we feed

them a bunch of crap in school and are upset when they can't learn algebra. >> we have this big farm program for years, which i'm in favor of, it is very important. we want to make sure the american farmer is there. >> absolutely. >> and make it a guarantee. >> absolutely. >> we got to be able to compete as a country. we are feeding the wrong stuff. >> right. this is not anti-farmer. this is pro-farmer. we need to shift subsidies to fresh fruits. create markets for the farmer so they can sell their product to public universitys and schools. there are markets waiting to be tapped. in central ohio, 60,000 students, if ohio state said 2% of our food budget will be local food from central ohio, next year 4% and next year 6% and you create a market for the farmer

and drive down the cost. >> farmers don't care what they grow just as long as they can make a dollar. >> exactly. and they have investments, land, and kids in college, the real food revolution is about a plan how we get from where we are today, mcdonald's fast food, diabetes, to where we need to be. >> you point out we are a sick society. what motivated you to write this. this is connected to our budget and health care problems. this clears the beast doesn't it. >> yeah. we think in washington, boy, if we come up with a more complicated solution to this very complicated problem, maybe then we'll get it right. this book is about getting back to the fundamentals. we are what we eat. as it says in the preface of the back, i can't cure diabetes at

the doctor's office, it is at the dinner table and at school. how's how we will beat it economically. >> will ohio beat d.c. i saw them play d.c. and i wasn't impressed but they are number one in the league. make sure ohio eats real food. okay. i'm not one to push books. i don't do that but this is so connected to everything we're talking about, the health of kids in this country, our budget problems, keeping farmers on the land, it's very innovative. you got a plan. you have written about a plan, the real food revolution. i congratulate you on that. >> thank you. all right. remember to answer tonight's

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>> governor. >> we can win this election. >> mitch joining us tonight. will the real rick scott please stand up. i feel like we're watching a game show. where does this guy stand? we know he's been trying to suppress the votes for years. he changed the rules. lay it out for us. >> he decided to make it more difficult for those who would probably vote democrat, will cut the polling hours, thought it would work out well for him, but of course it blew up for him. the lines were forever. if you spoke to people, three to four hours, they would explain i'm never getting off this line. no one will reprize me of the right to vote. there's a more sinister situation at play. i think there are probably

models his strategists have that say you're losing. you're not doing well. maybe not going to win by the same margins, so you need to talk about early voting to get republicans to change their m.o.and those who have not early voted to go out there. i think there are models saying democrats have doing better than they have in 2010 in early voting, in which we will still lose but not by the margins we had, will in fact mitigate it. they see a trend and are trying to get republicans out there beyond absentee. >> clearly out of character, correct? >> totally out of character for this governor and republicans legisla led

legislation. this is an act of desperation. he's looking to find new voters by pushing for early voting. >> what's it mean if the race is tied at 47. it is far from decided. it will go down to the wire. there won't be much room between whoever wins this thing. that's my line for every race because there's a lot in this country that are really tight. this one tied at 47. several polls are tied. how important is it to get out and vote. republicans don't have a great track record of getting the vote out in florida, do they? >> actually theyent don't. he spent $57 million in ads against charlie crist. this poll shows them tied. 37.

47. one other thing in that poll that was interesting, it said 24% of those people polled might change their vote. so it is very, very fluid. scott people are very worried. trying to pivot to things they've never done. certainly rick scott folks like the absentee vote and not the early vote because then they have to mix with other people. that's not necessarily a comfortable thing. >> all right. i want to talk about this. the 2000 election, we all know what happened. the integrity of the vote is so important for 2016, i hear wherever i go, that this is the reason this governor's gubernatorial election is so important in florida for the

integrity of the vote so florida isn't stolen again. what's your response to that? >> well, i think you're right on the money. and specifically in my county, almost 2 million people, we're the largest democratic county in the state. we have over 250 attorneys as part of a voter protection team that will be deployed all over. this is so close. florida has a not so sterling reputation. i would add one other thing about the importance of florida beyond this governorship. that is, if democrats in florida care about who the president is going to be, if we have a democrat president, i try to remind them that a democrat governor will give us a level playing field so we won't have another presidential recount in 2016. >> we have the final debate between the governor and charlie

crist, any new fireworks expects. >> well, cnn has said that no fans are allowed. i will say this will be interesting because i think charlie will be doing a really good job pinning rock scott down. in the last debate it got lost among the fan fare. i think this will be the one place rick scott, pardon the pun, will not be able to hide and take the fifth amendment. >> all right. i'm looking forward to working florida on election day. a lot of action in the sunshine state, no doubt about it. coming up rnc takes a direct jab at the intelligence of wisconsin voters. i'll tell you what is happening on the ground with voters in wisconsin. plus we'll follow the money auditing palin. i got your questions next,

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welcome back to the ed show, thanks for watching tonight. south dakota, the race is interesting, the immigration scandal in that state could decide the senate majority. south dakota has broken out into a three-way contest. thought former governor mike brown was a shoe in to pick up the senate seat for the party now the eb 5 scandal has rocked his chances for win, the program allows foreign investors to by citizenship at $500,000 a pop and the money is invested in businesses intended to create job but didn't happen.

money went missing in south dakota under then governor mike brown, the sit zcitizens are st feeling $1.5 million fall out. >> the plant closed and within a month 20 apartments vacated. the employees didn't have any ties to the city so they up and left. >> the prong was championed by rounds but the former governor says he had no involvement with the deal but a new report tells a much different story. the founder for the firm says he met with the governor brown and officials about the plant. rounds has no recollection according to a spokesperson. mike rounds has already

submitted inaccurate testimony. voters are starting to get the full picture of what put their economy in danger, especially in aberdeen. thank you gentleman for joining us tonight. zack, you first, has the inconsistent testimony by former governor rounds been picked up by the voters? has it taken effect. >> without a doubt it's taken effect. thanks for having us on. the rounds senate campaign is in free fall. they've been forced to bail his campaign out. why because the eb5 scandal h surfaced a number of issue that's caught him flat out lying. not only did he say he wasn't

personally recruiting investors for the eb5 program. now we know, a letter surfaced that shows mike rounds was personally involved. and he says he wasn't involved in the shady $30 million off-shore banking deal that propped up the northern beef packers plant, but in fact, not only was he involved, he was participating in the meeting where the deal was done. >> many people this that this will really change outcome of this senate race. patrick, the leading end of this, the tribune writes . >> patrick, as an attorney, is that a real possibility that this could follow rounds for some time to come? >> well, it should, if it

doesn't. the most serious lie that he has told so far is in his submission of false material to the government operations and accounting committee here in south dakota. in south dakota, it's been on the books since 1939, it's a felony to submit anything paper, writing, the statute says, or thing, to a committee or investigation and there's another statute in south dakota that says if you do that and you're a public office holder you fort fit your office and you're banned from running in south dakota for life. >> so you have a republican majority in south dakota and legislation in how will this sib mitt for rounds. >> i don't know how. your viewers are probably well aware that we've had single

party rule in south dakota for about 40 years. the go act committee is dominated by republicans and suffice it so say the go act committee didn't do anything even after they received evidence from mr. rounds they too absolutely no steps to prothaekt. >> protect that. >> so it sounds like party protection going on. >> it appears that way. attorney general was appointed into that position by then governor mike rounds. seems there are clear conflicts of interest here that are protecting mike rounds for his seat in the u.s. senate. >> what are you hearing from voters? have they caught up with the e -- eb5 scandal, has it taken hold. >> it is in the headlines every day and on tv stations every day.

now we have had a flood of advertising into the state informing south dakota exactly what happened in the mike rounds administration it is a clear case of public corporation here. case of public corruption here and people are talking about it every day. >> aren't people curious where millions of dollars went in an eb5 scandal that gave out green cards to people who invested. >> the public outcry increases every day, in fact we've been rather fortunate in early press conferences, we have gotten a lot of help from both democrats and republicans in terms of turning the document over to us to allow tuesday figure this scandal out. >> we have tried to interview rounlds and we've been unsuck l

unsuccessful. is he dodging the media. >> without a doubt he's dodging the media. and he is constantly being contradicted every single day when he talks about the eb5 scandal. one reporter described a statement that mike rounds made about this scandal as a word salad. makes no sense. and of course when you're trying to defend the indefensivable what else can you say, except word salad. >> appreciate your time tonight. this certainly has turned the senate race upside down on the prairie, no doubt. coming up, the walker campaign running scared in wisconsin. that's next.

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welcome back to "the ed show." the story for the folks who shower after work. kitchen table issues are front and center as they were in 2012. which makes scott walker pretty nervous these days. so nervous he's calling in the cavalry. on monday, national republican committee co-chair sharon day came to wisconsin to help out the governor. one week after walker said voters in wisconsin have a work problem. sharon day took it a step further. she said i don't want to say anything about your wisconsin voters, but some of them might not be as sharp as a knife. walker's camp has now been reduced to insulting wisconsin voters. here's more on the story from

wisconsin. >> 250,000 now jobs by the end of our first term in office. >> we are dead last. >> show me what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like! >> the majority of categories for the midwest, so job growth is not there. he ran on his job creation ticket. and obviously hasn't produced. so you would think that people would wake up and know what the hell's going on. >> walker's policies have been so radical, residents of wisconsin feel there's a deep divide in their state. >> governor walker has done that. that was his whole plan, divide and conquer. >> i think he's done that. you talk to the people on the street and they talk about talking points. they don't talk about what's really happening. >> we're a deeply purple state. but we're also compassionate. and we have a history of being fair to the working man. that's where collective bargaining began, right here in wisconsin. we need to return to moderation and common sense and building up

what everybody needs. >> everywhere you go, they talk about turn-out. progressives in the state are ready to mobilize and get voters to the polls to support burke and get rid of walker. >> she's got the background. she's created jobs before. governor walker touts his business background which really is non-existent. mary burke has that background. she's worked in government before. she knows how to create jobs. she knows what it takes. she's a moderate. she's in nobody's pocket, which is a good thing. we need some moderation, and we need some decency here in the state of wisconsin. i think she can provide that and we're behind her 110%. >> i'm a business person. i know how jobs get created. you have to have that small business growth. you have to have workforce training. you have to have a plan and it has to be aggressive. >> this time it's issues, at least half a dozen of them. you talk about medicare and

expansion, you would think that -- >> minimum wage? >> minimum wage. voter i.d., collective bargaining, all these things added up. then you talk about job creation. >> i know we can put people back to work by getting government out of the way. >> do you remember, this was several years ago right here on this square where all these thousands of people were. >> 100,000 people, you're right. >> if they do what they got to do, what happens? >> this area will get the vote out. the rest of the state too. if we get the vote out, mary burk will win. >> the fight has gone from the capital to the streets and the courtroom. that's where we need to be, out in the streets, talking to our neighbors, getting other people energiz energized. it's going to take more than public sector workers to win this election. >> let me bring in the congressman from wisconsin. good to have you with us tonight. i want to go back to the comment

from the co-chair of the national republican committee. sharon day, was that an insult to wisconsin voters, that they're just not as sharp as a knife? >> well, this whole issue around jobs, i think, is really turning on governor walker right now. somehow recently he's putting it on us, on his constituents, that we're the problem, not him. that he promised to create 250,000 jobs and we're dead last in the midwest for job creation, but he's trying to spin something different. and just in the last week, ed, i think you saw minimum wage, he actually said he doesn't think minimum wage serves a purpose and he even went as far as to say he wouldn't repeal the minimum wage. what element is advocating for that? not only will he not increase it, but he has an even more extreme view, that he's contemplating repealing it. he's showing the workers of the

state he does not support their efforts in the middle class. i think that will have an effect in a couple weeks. >> doesn't this get him to clarify how sharp he thinks the voters are? it's coming from the national co-committee chair. is that what walker believes and he thinks he can fool people by saying, we've done 110,000 jobs, that's really good? in a country that's added nine million, what about that? he's insulting the voters, isn't he? >> he's been doing this. there's so many things about him, that he says one thing, but the reality is different. most recently, just last week, he had the opportunity to apply for what would have been up to $60 million over four years for our state's share of money for preschoolers, and he didn't even bother to apply for the money. he's already turned back $23 million in broadband money. he's turned back the money to

expand medicaid. so people lost health care. and all of this is because he's busy running for president, not governor. and we're just something that's on the path to the presidency. i think people really want a governor who works first and foremost for them. i think mary burke message has been about that, fighting for the middle class and providing people with opportunity. >> conservatives love numbers, i do too, especially when it comes to the economy. look at the map of job growth. wisconsin is surrounded by neighbors. 8.7 in michigan to 4.0 in wisconsin. minnesota beats them 6.3. iowa, why is the neighborhood so much better than wisconsin? >> well, because they have a governor in the legislature who is trying to work on behalf of the people of wisconsin. our governor is trying to get elected president. there's definitely a huge disconnect with that. so when you look at the efforts what we've done, and what we

haven't done, clearly we're lagging behind. one of the unique things about mary burke, she was a secretary of commerce, she's a business person. she's got a great track record in the area that scott walker is the weakest. so when you talk about a comparison, if people are going to vote their pocket books and they care about their ability to support their family, it's a clear choice. mary burke has a much better record. >> if there's not good voter turn-out in wisconsin, will you be scratching your head? >> well, i'll tell you, we're going to do everything we can to get voters out. we know that the drop-off voter breaks 60/40 for democrats. every new voter we get is likely to be a voter for mary burke. by the last poll with walker at 47%, he's gone through a recall. no one's going to go, that scott walker, he's not so bad. people have a strong opinion on him. if we get our voters out, no question, we can win this election.

congressman pocan, good to have you with us tonight. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, no excuses. we're two weeks from the midterm elections and it's a sprint to the finish line. these are live pictures from minnesota where the first lady is about to speak at a campaign event for senator franken. she was in iowa this morning. former president clinton is in kentucky, stumping for alison lundergan grimes. at stake, control of the senate. and whether that senate will work with president obama or against him for his remaining two years in office. i spoke to the president in an interview for my radio show, about his closing