>> several shootings in ottawa. >> member of canadian forces died in today's shooting. >> there was a man with a rifle shooting at a bunch of people. >> i'm here alone watching this entire thing unfold. >> there's been a lot of intelligence about the potential of people being inspired by isis. >> isis is calling for these low-level attacks. >> the community needs to continue to be aware of these individuals. >> much of downtown ottawa is still under lock down this afternoon after gunmen terrorized canada's capital firing dozens of shots inside their parliament and killing one official. one gunman has been shot and killed. the violence began when the soldier, one of two standing guards was shot at the city's national war memorial which is

just steps away from the canadian parliament. he then ran into parliament firing dozens of rounds frmz if steve was there but evacuated safely. there was no shots fired at the shopping mall near by. parliament hill and the u.s. embassy in ottawa remain locked down. >> we set up a perimeter to prohibit individuals to go onto parliament hill. there is an ongoing operation to clear parliament hill to make sth sure it is safe for everybody. >> the motive remains unclear but comes two days after an islamic radical struck a car killing one.

nbc news reported this earlier this month. >> according to american officials there have been no changes in the white house or capital hill security. president obama was briefed on the shooting earlier this afternoon and has spoken to prime minister harper. any minute now the president is expected to make his first remarks on the shooting. joining me now former director of the national counter terrorism center, and nbc news the white house correspondent. chris, we're expecting the president to speak. can you give us sense of what he might say. or what the white house has

sponlded today. >> it's been very busy. his homeland security advisor has been keeping him updated on what is going on. you mentioned the phone call he had with prime minister harper. there's an ongoing conversation the president is having with many of our allies in this fight against isis. we don't know the motivation of this attack, certainly dating back to the u.n. assembly there was a lot of discussions of home grown terror. the canadian parliament formally offered planes and crews to go into iraq so this has been an ongoing series of discussions. the white house officials tell me there are a number of levels of the white house officials talking with their counter parts in canada, obviously the

relationship changes post 9/11 because of the large border we share, homeland security became on the forefront of the agency that deal with our canadian neighbor. as you pointed out, today he's in a meeting. we understand that meeting is just wrapping up. the press will be able to go in and we'll hear the first comments from the president since this happened. >> thanks as always for the update. i want to go michael to you. in terms of, it surprised a lot of folk that's canada considers the hit and run earlier this week a terrorist attack that will consider what happen today also a terrorist attack. >> i think that's very possible at this point, alex but it will really go to the identity of the gunman and then could tell quickly what the motivation might have been. the difference right now, with the guy who drove the car was this is someone the canadians

knew had been radicalized and was looking to go to syria. that all adds up clearly to someone are to target officials in the name of isis even if not directed to do so. certainly the intelligence before this event, warning of these sorts of things, suggests some sort of motivation like that, but until we get informing about his identity or other corroborating intelligence, i don't think they will say this fits in the same category. >> what do you make of the arlington cemetery is heightening security. >> this is mostly routine, and these are precautions and they're precautions when

security officials doenn't have the full story yet and they just want to be careful. this highlights how people in uniform are always at a slightly higher level of threat. in the next coming day there's will be warnings to that effect. i expect state and local officials will take measures around some of these installations to make sure people in uniform, people associated with the government know that folks who are inspired to violence will look towards those sorts of targets. >> i want to bring on the phone a member of the canadian parliament can you tell us what happened. >> well wednesday morning in parliament, all of the members are meeting in big rooms, or caucus meet. so we are very lucky that whatever this gunman was, he wasn't very bright, if he came

in an hour later we all would have been stepping into the hall of honor into the bank of media cameras that meet us early in the morning. so i don't know what his plan was. but we were in our meeting room with 100 mps when heavy, heavy gunfire began outside the door. so we assumed he was trying to get into our caucus, but we did not know at that point. fortunately, thank god, it didn't happen and thank god nobody else was hurt. >> let me ask you about something that michael was just saying, folks in government institutions the and government buildings sort of operate with a slightly heightened sense of awareness. were you ga "s operating with increased vigilance, had you gone through any training preceding today?

>> there was no overt changes in our operations. we have to recognize government buildings are always a symbol, not just to terrorist but to the disgruntled, i have to assume there might be someone on ballot who is crazy. we need to carry ourselves with some level of safety but we also kbae can't be intimidated by it. we will certainly look at security on the hill. i don't know how someone managed to get up and into the building. i'm giving reports to kevin vickers, he was the man who took the gunman down, that is certainly something we're very proud of, but to think someone got in the building with a gun is very, very zuri disturbing.

we will certainly be looking at what we need to do. >> michael, in terms of the recruitment, of not home grown, but domestic terrorism, folks born in the country, went over seas got radicalized and is coming back, has canada b. been more victim to that compared to the united states? are we on equal footing. we hear a lot about isis recruiting american and western terrorists, is one country sort of dealing with this better than the other. >> canada has been targeted by al qaeda organizations for really ten years plus and the canadian security organizations work closely with u.s. counter parts. in the case of syria, it is reported that they think there's 100 plus interested in going to syria. so this is a particular problem for canada. canada does have one thing very

much in common with the u.s. which is this very strong commitment to civil liberties and openness and at that times that commitment in canada because they haven't had the really traumatic events of 9/11 has diminished some effectiveness. who knows if that plays any of this. but canada again very committed as they should be as a democracy to civil liberties hasn't always took the line u.s. should. >> let me ask you that. do you think, this complicates what happened today? >> i think we're going to need to look at the evidence. when i hear it was a radical jihadist who killed that soldier, i look at a local tibet guy who decided to adopt a crazy ideology, that's different from

a terrorist in my view. we always have to be aware of the threats posed by unstable people. but john lennon walking down the streets of new york was killed because he was a symbol. so let's make sure our security forces have the tools they need to go after any kind of radical cells that may be operating but we cannot take the lone action of a crazy or copy cats is the other issue. so we have to make sure we don't lose sight of stwha what it is that makes us a strong, independent and free country, which is the fact we're inclusive. but we will look at how people are kept safe. >> that's an incredible important point. i wonder if you think there is danger as classifying some of this as terrorist acts when you get to the root of it, it could be a lone wolf who adapted the

radical ideology but is not part of a broader terror network. >> i actually agree entirely with the member of parliament, what he said, which is we need to give our security sources the tools they need to detect and find and disrupt their plots no matter how small they are. lots of people who have weapons or just a car who are determined to kill people in the name of a skewed ideology or isis or just because they woke up on the wrong side of the bed, we are not going to stop them all, we can do more damage to our society if we try to create perfect security and think we will when we never can. i think he made a really strong point. >> thanks so much for your time. best of luck to you. >> thank you so much for your concern. >> michael hang with me. after the break we'll have more on the deadly shooting in canada

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>> ultimately it is a house for democracy. and access, which is kind of fundamental and i don't really want to think about, but i'm going to be forced to think about the impolitlications, heightened security, all of the

stuff we do in the name of security and the way in which we'll impact how we live in this country. i'm a little nervous about where that conversation might go. you can fall into pretty major trends. >> that was following the shootings in ottawa canada at the national war memorial and on parliament hill came just hours after canada raised its terrorist threat from low to medium and just two days after one drove his car killing a man, they are calling it an act of terrorism. they said this shooting is too early to determine a motive. joining me now former fbi special agent and chief

operating officer, don, what does it mean going from low to medium. >> i think you want to take and make sure that targets that are hardened are maybe increasingly hardened. maybe put the security officials on higher alert. for example, there's reports that canadian services have been monitoring 90 people, maybe they want to step up the monitoring of that, if they have authority to tap phones, maybe they are doing that more frequently, asking human intelligence for more information, it's probably a combination of things. it's very difficult because you get pieces of intelligence coming in, what we hear is chatter, it's very nonspecific, you might have a bit here and a bit there, trying to put it together is a big challenge. >> yeah, michael, to his point,

the man that is allegedly behind the attack in quebec earlier this week, police began monitoring him in june, arrested him in july when he was about to fly to turkey, he was released for lack of e6ds. for lack of evidence. seems like a delicate balance indeed. >> it is, alex. it is not just a privacy civil liberties balance, it's simply a resource issue. this has happened time and time again in western dem democracys, the united kingdom bombings july 7, 2005 perpetrated by people who were once monitored by british and then had to drop coverage. with the fbi they drop coverage people go on to do bad things. this is not unique to canada. you have to honor civil

liberties and then make hard choices where you will put your limited resources. they generally will have to be aimed those who look to be most advanced and most committed. there will be other who's pop up later and this is after the fact. >> after 9/11, i think there was a change in the way we thought of tlelt tlhreats. it was no longer governments funding violence and terrorist acts, if you will, the theater of terrorism had been brought to the homeland and carried out by cells and networks that existed independently. now we're hearing u.s. and canadian officials were most concerned about a low tech and ni knife and gun attack. that seemed to further dilute the message. how feasible is it that

governments can disrupt a knife attack. >> it's very difficult. it's not impossible, it's been done. but the fewer number people involved in a plot, the less likely you are to encounter that unless you have trip wires in place, and for a knife and gun attack it will be very difficult unless that person has been on the internet with some kind of manifesto. >> i got to interrupt you. we're getting the first remarks from the president since the shooting in canada. he spoke in the oval office let's listen in. >> just two days ago a canadian soldier had been killed in an attack. we now know that another young man was killed today. i expressed on the behalf of the american people, our condolences

to the family and to the canadian people as a whole. we don't have all the information about what motivated the shooting. we don't have all the information about whether this is part of a broader network or a plan or whether this was an individual or series of individuals who decided to take these actions but it emphasizes the fact we have to remain vij lent when it comes to dealing with these kinds of acts of violence or terror. i pledge, as always to make sure our national security team will coordinate closely with canada. not only is canada one of our closest allies in the world but they're our neighbors and friends. there is a lot of interaction between canada and the united states where we have such a long border and it is very important, i think, for us to recognize that when it comes to dealing

with terrorist activity that canada and the united states have to be entirely in sync. we have in the past and i'm confident we will continue to do so in the future. prime minister harper was very appreciative of the expressions of concern by the american people. i had a chance to travel to the parliament in ottawa. i'm very familiar with that area. i'm reminded how wonderfully i was received, how wonderful the people there were. so obviously we're all shaken by it but we're going to do everything we can to make sure we're standing side by side with canada during this time. >> [ inaudible question ]. >> we don't have enough information yet. so, as we understand better exactly what happened, this obviously is something that we will make sure to factor in in the ongoing efforts we have to

counter terrorist attacks in our country. you know, every single day we have a whole lot of really smart, really dedicated really hard working people, including a couple in this room, who are monitoring risks and making sure that we're doing everything we need to do to protect the american people. and they don't get a lot of fan fare. they don't get a lot of attention. there's a lot of possible threats that are foiled or disrupted that don't always get reported on. and the work of our military, our intelligence teams, you know, the central intelligence agency, the intelligence community more broadly, our local law enforcement and state

law enforcement officials who coordinate closely with us, we owe them all a great deal of thanks. thank you guys. >> that was president obama speaking from the oval office. joining me now michael, let me ask you, in terms of the president offering unnecessarily and not surprisingly his condolences to the people of canada and the canadian government. this is sort of the fear a lot of countries have when they become part of these coalitions that are necessary in fighting terrorist threats over seas in the mid east. i wonder what you think the broader implications are in terms of multi-lateral relations in combatting terror. >> it is a bit of a fear but i think it is a general matter. western democracys and certainly

canada and the uk, have not been deterred by these sorts of threats. canadians lost more soldiers in afghanistan than any other country, including the under the circumstances including the united states. so canada has faced a lot of suffering and hurt over the years. if anything this tends to drive a closer partnership between the u.s. and canadian officials where at timeos the canadians have been hesitant, i think this will tend to 2kr50drive the cous closer not farther apart. >> let's talk about the seemingly close relationship we have with canadians on security level. >> yeah very close, especially here in new york where the fbi office in new york has the responsibility for investigation in canada. so the canada have both rcmp

representative as well as csis representative. there's a lot of sharing that goes back and forth with cia and their counter parts. we work very closely together. they are both competent to work with. it is as seemless as you can get between two different countries. sq . >> hit on something. when you hear the immediate reactions from some folks in the canada government there's a caution that this should not be over reaction on security issues which is i have different from what you would hear from american officials if they traded places. >> i think it is rather disheartening. >> i think it is rather heartening. i think the canadians do understand. i think there can be some over

reaction. don, is right the partnership between the u.s. and canada is great. in truth, sometimes it belter than within the canadian serves themselves. there's still some rivalries north of the border. i think the canadians have a ways to go to get the seemlessness that we have. but they are very hesitant to be evasive more than some of our security organizations have been willing to be. >> thank you so much for your time. coming up we will have a report how the white house is responding to increased security threat levels and we'll bring latest on containing ebola. next. you're driving along,

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news this afternoon. canada's parliament remains on lock down after multiple shooting events in ottawa. at the war memorial. hill reporter was on the phone with his editor when the shooting started. let's listen to that recording. >> bunch of gunshots. come on, come on, come on. a guy with a shotgun. >> i saw him. come out that way. [ gunfire ]. >> where do we go? >> i don't know. >> where do i go? >> go out the back.

>> okay. thank you. yeah. are you rolling on me right now? okay. i'm in a security office right now, apparently, somebody has walked up to the front steps of parliament hill, a single guy came in with a shotgun, go, put me on it right now. >> ottawa hospital has received four patients from the scene, apart from one with a gunshot wound all have minor injuries and remain hospitalized. the situation is dynamic and unfolding. a joint police operation is ongoing. they're pledging u.s. assists as needed. we are glad you are safe lee anne, we heard you were witness

to all this dramatic sound we just played. it sounds like an obviously terrifying situation and a chaotic one. can you give an account of what went down. >> i didn't witness anything. it is about a block from where i work. while i was certainly affected by what went on, we were immediately put on lock down, i didn't witness nick personally. we talked to a reporter who saw the shooting take place. saw the guy raise his hands after he gun downed the soldier and then he took off in the directionest parliament buildings. it's a pretty dramatic crazy day. not something you see in canada never mind the nation's capital. >> what is security normally like in that port of the government infrastructure. >> you know, it's funny, because i worked in washington, d.c. for five and half years and i was

really struck how lax the security seem here and people have raised concerns about it. it is pretty easy to get into the parliament buildings, you don't have to go through metal detectors or anything. even visitors and tourists could get in pretty easily. if you decided you wanted to do harm, seems easy to push your way past the security guards, and head right into the building, which it sounds is exactly what happened today. squl i want to go to special agent don, we have been operating under the consumption that this shooter is related to the terrorist act of nond so far as there is a general climate of fear around radical islam or isis threat or the chatter that n

canadian officials are talk being. should we pause there. >> i think it is some what normal. we have had a number of events leading up to this. we had canada race their terrorism level. we had the car that took out the soldier. the general chatter. you have had a call to arms from isis trying to get advised indi to act on their own. at this time do we say it's terrorism? no, not yet because there's light of investigation that needs to be done. but you take the obvious things and you need to go down that road, almost like a physician in an emergency room. your first assumption, you don't rule anything else out, you take what is maybe logical and go down that road first. >> lee anne let me get a sense of what the area is like. we heard that even now people

are being told to stay away from downtown ottawa, the scene is dynamic and unfolding. can you give us a sense of what the security is like. >> it's pretty much like complete lock down. the streets are empty. journalists can come and go but everyone else is locked down. i don't think the busses are even running right now. we have been warned not to stand near windows. there's nervous that there's other shooters out there although they did back away from that in a news conference today, in which they didn't really say anything at all. i think the shot of these shootings, i seen in d.c. last year, they told us there were more than one but it turned out to be one guy. i think they would like to err

on side of caution, i wouldn't be surprised if it was you this one guy. it is a very small area. everything is a stone's throw from each other. we're right across the street from parliament hill and the war memorial is right across the street. it's a very small area. >> this happens, we have done a lot of breaking news. could on a lot of shootings on my time on the air and the navy yard shootings was where there was thought to be several shooters and later turned out to be one. is it just an abundance of caution. >> and a lot of conflicting information coming in. police are trying to sort out what is what and getting phone call reports. so if you think there may be another shooter, you will

appropriately evac ooh ate and then you have a clear room to room. you have a large building, it will take a long time. >> does it surprise you they are still on lock down. >> no, think think it is par for the course. squl thank you both for your time and thoughts. >> thank you. coming up we'll look at who you the white house is responding to the shooting in canada. the latest chapter in an age of uncertainty and terror. introdg a pm pain reliever that dares to work all the way until the am. new aleve pm the only one with a sleep aid. plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. a pet friendly hotel. visit a tripadvisor pet friendly hotel.

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>> possible threat that's are foiled or disrupted that don't always get reported on. and the work of our military our intelligence teams, you know, the central intelligence agency, the intelligence community more broadly, our local law enforcement and state law enforcement officials who coordinate closely with us, we owe them all a great deal of thanks. >> for president obama today's event in canada prove to be another test for a man who's remaining time in office risk being defined by national

security. he so far has seen national security challenges dictate the course of his second term whether announcing military strikes in the middle east or enhanced screening on the home front or simply consoling allies when they become victims of violence in a post-9/11 world. he may still come to be defined as such. can you give us a response of what the response has been inside the dod on this latest news in canada. >> military officials are keeping a close eye on what is happening there in ottawa. at one point military officials at north com told us norad strike fighters, those who respond to any threat to canada or united states, were all put on a higher alert posture. no planes were launched.

but they were ready to intervene, take off, and int intercept any kind of aircraft that may pose a threat to canada or u.s. norad is the organization in which the u.s. and canada militaries protect the skies over both countries. one additional step that could be taken by the u.s. military which is not on any kind of heightened alert from ottawa is that any military personnel from america, there are about 300 or so in canada, might follow the lead from the canadians, if canadian military personnel, when they are in public are ordered to remove their uniforms and wear civilian clothes. if that's the case the military station will follow the lead

from the canadian military. one final note because the soldier that was killed in ottawa today was at a war memorial in ottawa, additional guards were placed at the tomorrow of the unknown soldier in arlington. >> thanks for the update. joining me now from washington post. in what was supposed to be a positive announcement about ebola, having to pivot once again in his presidency to news about national security, terrorist threats. it is stunning and also distressing how much the issue of security has dogged the president who very much wanted to get america to shepard the country through the age of terror. >> absolutely. this has been something that is been dominating his time. one thing that's interesting of course is the white house tells us about some of the calls he makes with leaders. clearly he talked to canada's

prime minister stephen harper and sent his condolences. and he also talked to australia's prime minister. you get the sense he is constantly dealing with as he talks about other issues. it is encroaching on some of his other policy priorites. >> i also think we talk about the elections in two weeks, the republicans are capitalizing on the climate of fear and talk about the implications to this president's leadership, he has been on the phone being the leader at least behind the scenes, folks on the right are criticizing him for not being. one wonders, given the closeness

between u.s. and canada with weather that argument holds water. >> it is hard to see that resonating with voters as they go to the polls. i would be skeptical that people would think that we're abandoning canada in any sense. in fact, again, the prime minister and president had a pretty decent relationship given ideologically they are not absolutely in sync. i don't think that kind of thing reverbat reverbates. but the president has come under criticism in the past from those who say he has exceeded what he's doing to monitor criminal activities. you see he is clearly invested in the idea there won't be another attack here. and he is sympathetic to take maesh you' measures to revert something like that. >> and we were talking about the

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crackers going off but i look across the street and there's a man with a rifle shooting at a bunch of people. so i yelled at all my guys, there's a guy shooting, so everyone, get down, get down. >> i was walking along the front of the memorial. i was just passing just over here. and all of a sudden i just heard a shot, turned around and there was a guy with a rifle just around on the back corner, and just pow, pow. >> he ran up this building, high jacked the car, didn't hurt the gentleman in the car, took off towards the back and heads in that direction. >> those were eye witness accounts of this morning's shooting in ottawa. almost 7 hours after the first shots fired there's much we still don't know. here's what we do know at this hour. two shooting incidents, at the national war memorial and on

parliament hill. the shooting at the memorial left one canadiian soldier dead and wuone of the shooters was a male suspect was also killed. the police urged the public to stay away from downtown ottawa much of which is still under lock down along with parliament hill. that's all for now. see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. the ed show is coming up next. good evening americans and welcome to the ed show, live from new york. we're get to the election news later. tonight we start with breaking news of multiple shootings in canada. a soldier was shot and killed in the canadian capital of ottawa minutes later dozens of shots inside the parliament. this dramatic video was captured

by a reporter. gunfire. >> one suspect was shot and killed by police. moments ago president obama addressed the shootings. >> i express to the canadian people our condolences to the family and to the canadian people as a whole. we don't have all the information about what motivated the shooting. we don't have all the information about whether this was part of a broader network or plan or whether this was an individual or series of individuals who decided to take these actions. but, it emphasizes the degree to which we have to remain