he took to instagram after the experience and wrote, you never know the impact you have on people. no, you don't. and with all the bad news in the world lately, it's so great to see stories like this that make us all smile. yes, we've got to deal with a lot of challenges, but don't forget to find something every now and then to smile about. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. too close for comfort. this is "hardball." ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. we have fresh video tonight of yesterday's terrorist attack on the canadian parliament. but first we take you to new york city for a report on what may be a new case of ebola here in the united states. nbc's katy tur is outside

bellevue hospital. what can you tell us about this patient? >> i can tell you that new york city is treatin this very seriously right now. they've not confirmed that he has ebola, but they're treating it as if he does because of where he's been and who he's been in contact with. they should know in the next six to 12 hours. he's a 33-year-old man, a doctor from columbia presbyterian, who just got back from treating ebola patients in west africa. his name is dr. craig spencer. he got back ten days ago. started feeling symptoms today, fever, fatigue. also some body aches. he called the health department and told them he had a 103-degree fever, they called 911, they sent a hazmat crew to take him to the hospital. he's being tested and treated right now. the health department is going

to see everybody he's been in contact. they have quarantined his girlfriend. he was not self-quarantined up until now. he's been back here for about ten days, but he doesn't start to feel the symptoms until earlier today, and that's when he started to self-quarantine. last night he took a cab from harlem down to brooklyn to go to a bowling alley, and we are told he had some physical contact with his girlfriend this morning. again, though, we don't know that he does have ebola. it could be malaria. it could be salmonella. test results should come back later tonight or tomorrow morning. but since he's been in contact with ebola victims, this city is taking it very seriously. >> as they should, thanks so much katy tur in new york. now to our big story tonight, i want to know who that guy was who attacked the canadian parliament yesterday. there's a picture. what drove him to terrorism and what does it tell us about the threats coming our way? we have new video as i said, of

yesterday's attack. it shows the moments just after shooting the soldier at the war memorial. you can see him racing away as the terrorist runs there with his gun in his hands. heading toward the parliament building himself. you can see him running to a parked car, which he then hijacks and drives toward the parliament building, there he is. he pulls up to the building, leaves the car, and run inside. all the while, being chased by police officers. he will exchange fire inside with officers guarding the entrance to the building. we're getting new information about the shooter himself. who is this guy? his father is from libya. he was a convert to islam. he has a long criminal record, including assault, robbery, drugs, and weapons offenses. he's been staying in a homeless shelter in ottawa. he had applied for a passport to travel to syria. police revealed that his e-mail

had been found on the shard drive of someone who had been charges himself with a terrorist offense. so here tonight, i want to learn if i can, what this act of violence so close to our border will do to the american nervous system, how it will affect, and here's an important part, voters as they head to the polls in about a week. right now, we're joined by the correspondent for global national up in canada. give us the police information, everything we need to know about who this guy was, what drove him, how he got to this point to make history in the worst kind of way. >> hey, chris, yeah, i spent the day digging into what exactly michael bibeau was made of. we know he was 32 years old, born and raised here in canada. he's a guy who kind of lived life on the margins. he's lived in several shelters throughout the country. he hadn't talked to his parents in five years before last week, when he met his mother for lunch. that's when we assume he told his mom he was planning to travel to syria. he came to ottawa, staying in a

homeless shelter here. he was here to apply for the passport. he had applied and he was in the period waiting to see if it would be accepted. we know he tried to rent a car. they asked him if he had a passport. he was very frustrated according to people in the room, when he did not have one. police say the lack of a pos part was a motivating factor, though his entire motive is not really clear at this point. >> i'll play cop here. how did he have the money to even think he could afford a plane ride over to syria. he sounded like he's broke. >> yeah, you know what, all indications are that he was to an extent. he took a bus from out west to ottawa, that's what i'm told. but he was able to get some money. and that's a big question. was he in contact with people in some kind of network? the police saying he was associating with one other known radical. were they supplying him with money? it really goes to that question,

is he a lone wolf, or is he operating under a bigger umbrella organization? >> what are we getting from his mother? she seems like a victim of this as much as anyone else. what do you have a sense that she knew about his intentions in going to syria? was it clear to her that he was going to join up with isis? >> that's a great question. we're not sure whether or not it was clear that he was going there to join isis or that she knew that. earlier today, she released this statement and it was, i'm shocked, i'm mad at my son, i sympathize with the victims. it seemed like she had no idea. but then police revealed that she was the one who said he intended to go to syria. we went to her house. she works for the federal government. she wasn't around. we don't have the answers, but you can bet we're going to be trying to get them. >> thanks so much for that report from ottawa. >> joining me now, evan kohlmann

and thomas sanderson from the center of strategic studies. give me your sense, because i think this is something we'll have to live with for a while, the lone wolves, the people with elusive connections to a larger network. what do we know about him? >> it's important to make the point here that the connections between this individual that have been publicized so far between him and other jihadists, they're not direct connections. it would be that someone happened to have him on their profile, they might have passed a message back and forth, it wasn't a meaningful message. as far as anyone can tell, so far from the public evidence, this guy was not tied in with anybody. no group, no other individuals. just not any evidence so far of that. whether or not this individual was recruited by isis, it doesn't appear so. doesn't even appear whether or not they were aware this was going to happen. so what kind of a person are we looking at? we're looking at a lone wolf. but are we looking at someone who is capable, who was a

meaningful threat beyond this incident? or are we looking at the guy down in oklahoma city who beheaded his co-worker because he was inspired on what he saw on television from isis? >> two questions, how did he afford a trip to syria if he's on the lam, lying around in homeless shelters without any money. i know he had a bus ticket, but where do you get the money to go to syria and apply for a passport? that takes cash. and secondly, what about his name appearing on that hard drive, someone else involved with terrorism? how did that happen if he's a lone wolf? >> we can only speculate -- >> we know his name showed up on the hard drive. how did that happen? >> his name didn't show up on the hard drive. these guys had shared profiles. they were following each other, basically. they might have made a comment like, that's great and the other person said, that's great too. but the conversations weren't meaningful. they weren't about a conspiracy or at least as far as we know so far, they weren't about some

kind of organized conspiracy. they were more like two extremists who happened to have a vague recollection or acknowledgement of each other on the internet. but it doesn't appear to be something that meaningful. as for the other questions, look, as where he would have gotten the money to travel, that's where we can only speculate. number one, he did meet with his mother. perhaps he was asking his mother for money, we don't really know. other jihadists who have been in canada before, penniless, have been able to raise money to travel to as far as away as afghanistan. so this individual, even penniless, might have been able to find the money for a ticket. there are people in canada and here in the united states that would be willing to fund such a trip if they knew what it was for. the question is, did he ever come into contact with anyone, or was this really an act of desperation? did he not think he was going to get his passport? did he not think he was going to make it to syria and that is what he decided to do instead?

we don't know. we don't know if it's a case of mental illness. but he wanted to go to syria, his case fits in with a number of other cases we've seen recently. and whether it's mental illness or a jihadi inclination, whatever it is, there definitely appears to be some connection here to what's going on in the lefant with isis. >> let me go to thomas here. it seems to me, one thing we do know, this man decided to basically commit suicide. this kind of act, shooting a soldier at the war memorial in plain daylight and then hijacking a car and racing into the parliament building with a gun, you're going to get shot. >> yeah, there's only one result that's going to come of that. look at his life, he appears to be on the margins and now he has a mission, right? and that mission may be in furtherance of isis goals or in his own belief what it means to defend the worldwide muslim community -- >> if he's trolling around the internet, contacting this other

person involved with terrorism to some extent, and he must be aware like a couple years ago, where somebody said i'm going to behead the canadian prime minister in the parliament building. how much of this chatter, as they call it, mixing with each other and creates this ignition to leads this guy to take this step yesterday? after what happened monday in montreal. >> yeah, with the soldiers who were run over. exactly. one of them died. there's plenty of chatter, plenty of material that these guys can grasp a hold of. very easy for an individual, from what we know about this gentleman, could have jumped to this point where he was. >> is chris available right now? i want to take a couple minutes, talk about what seems to be the strong emotional and patriotic feeling coming out of canada today. much like it did out of our country, the u.s., after 9/11.

>> um, well, thank you, chris. and you know, chris, it's not polite to praise yourself, so i'm going to start with a blog on new york magazine, the new york magazine website that talked about the mature and dignified reaction in canada. and i have to say, i really feel that's been the case, and i'm really proud of my country. i was in parliament today at 10:00. we were all in our seats. and that was in a place where the day before we were huddling in our offices. the real mood of the country is to say, we are going to keep calm and carry on. we are going to mourn and remember the brave young reservist, corporal cirillo, who was shot and leaves behind a 6-year-old son. we're incredibly proud of our sergeant-at-arms, the 58-year-old guy who brings in the mace every morning to begin our sessions in parliament. when he heard the shots, he was

at his desk, opened his drawer, took out a gun, and he shot the shooter. so we are really determined to be responsible, to be mature, but not to let this change us. >> well, as you mentioned, the spotlight is also focused on the sergeant-at-arms, kevin vickers, who is being called a hero in your country. by the way, congratulations on your elections in the parliament. and when the shooting started, he ran to his office is retrieved his gun. here's the video, him pacing the halls after the shooting, gun in hand. today dressed in his ceremonial attire, he was greeted by a three-minute standing ovation by members of parliament as he entered the chamber. the prime minister also drew more cheers by shaking the sergeant-at-arms hand. he gave hugs and said the country stands united. let's listen. >> when faced with attacks on the country we all love, and the

things we all stand for, i know we will always stand together. it is hard to appreciate, understand, fathom, how we can have people who so despise and are involved in a movement who want violence. we will be vigilant, but we will not run scared. we will be prudent, but we will not panic. and as for the business of government, here we are in our seats in our chamber in the heart of our democracy. [ cheers and applause ] >> i don't know if it's an accident, photography, or camera angle, but there behind him was a gentleman with a turban and a long full beard. i know canada is a country of british commonwealth diversity, people coming from all over the

world. is that something, when you say, keep calm, do you mean unlike the u.s.? i'm not trying to be controversial. but what do you mean about your reaction compared to the reaction of americans in the u.s.? >> i wasn't saying anything bad about american, chris. we love our american friends and allies, but we are determined to be calm, to be mature, not to overreact. there was a gentleman in a turban, and an interesting fact about kevin vickers, the sergeant-at-arms, is, he made a decision a few years ago, that sikhs who come into the house of commons can carry their ceremonial knives. he's been as the sergeant-at-arms an accused defender of our house of parliament. he's called the house of commons because commoners should be allowed to enter. i think it's great this guy who is a defender of openness is

ready to take action when necessary. >> congratulations for being a member of the parliament and so proudly speaking of your country. and thank you, evan coleman and thomas sanderson. coming up, 12 days before the midterm elections in this countr country, things are getting hot. joni ernst, she said she's going to use her gun to protect herself if she believes this government isn't respecting her rights. this is second amendment talk out of the prayer book. is she talking about shooting politicians she doesn't agree with? apparently so. and rudy guiliani settles an old score, a personal one down in florida. these races are so close. who knows what's going to tip the scale? this is "hardball," a place for politics.

>> we're talking about second amendment remedies. if they don't scare you, what will? joni ernst on tape talking about shooting people in the government if she doesn't like

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welcome back to "hardball." 12 days to the mid terms. do you believe? the big campaigns have been at it for a year now. media markets are saturated. the ads are relentless. yet hardly a race in the country from new hampshire to kentucky to georgia to kansas to florida, they're all closer now than they ever were. take a look at iowa where the castrator, joanni ernst has a two-point lead there, the margin of error is three, so they're tied. and now comes something from two years ago. she's talked about killing politicians she doesn't agree with. just how radical is that? pretty radical. and giuliani said, the democrats doubled down on alison grapels. all this for you tonight.

the national political reporter with "the washington post" and editorial director of the huffington post media group. today the huff post dug up video of joni ernst at an nra event two years ago talking about shooting members of her own government if she thinks they're up to hurting her rights. let's watch. >> i have a beautiful little smith & wesson, nine millimeter, and it goes with me virtually everywhere, but i do believe in the right to carry, and i believe in the right to defend myself and my family, whether it's from an intruder, or whether it's from a government should they decide that my rights are no longer important. >> this is the same radical talk, howard, i'm glad -- congratulations on this. >> thank you. >> this has nothing to do with democrat versus republican. do you want somebody in the u.s. senate that talks about carrying a gun around with them, to use against government officials all

the way to the top, i guess, who challenge her perception of her rights. this is radical talk about her second amendment rights. if anybody out there thinks there's something confusing here, watch that again. she's talking about using it against government, revenuers, they used to call them. does she think this is something you can say and still get elected to the government? she'll be in the government. >> one significant thing, this video was sent to us by a reader. we have a standing request to all of our readers and commenters to send in things they about the candidates, any interesting comments, video, data. anything. this was sent in, our great young reporter wrote it up. what's interesting about this, i know iowa very well having spend tons of time there, they like their guns, and the second amendment. but these are not crazy people

in iowa. and the talk, the sort of clive and bundy talk about the government conspiracy to take away your rights, which at an nra convention means, to take up the guns. the government somehow is secretly plotting to take up the guns. this feeds into the deepest part of the paranoid wing of gun rights advocates in the nra. not what most of the mainstream nra was about. but she was trying to tap into that emotion. bruce braley is running against her, saying she's too extreme to be in the senate. i think this piece of video plays right into that. >> how is this different from the people who say, it's going to come down to a showdown between me and the black helicopters? she says she's got her gun ready. i know it's a little gun, but her principle is the same as sharon engel's was a couple years ago. before you start, let's watch this back in 2010, a candidate

in nevada talked about her second amendment remedies to take out her then opponent, or anybody in the government that gets in the way. let's watch. >> you know, our founding fathers they put that second amendment in there for a good reason, and that was for the people, to protect themselves against a tyrannical government, and said, you know, thomas jefferson said it's good for our country to have a revolution every 20 years. i hope that's not where we're going, but if this congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those second amendment remedies and saying, my goodness, what can we do to turn this country around? i'll tell you, the first thing we need to do is take harry reid out. >> looking towards the second amendment remedies to deal with this congress. i don't think there's any translation required here. >> you got to ask, how did this happen? how does joni ernst in a

competitive senate race make these kind of comments? >> who cleaned her up? somebody did something. >> that was two years ago. >> no, i meant, how did she go from -- [ all speak at once ] >> look, she was, she has moderated her image since she won the republican primary. >> how? >> two years ago she was running in a republican primary in iowa. i was covering it. these red states pull candidates like ernst far to the right and they have to move back center for the general. >> what did they do to change her? >> they had a squealing pig ad in the primary. her general election ad is straight to camera, her sittingra am-rod straight, talking in a moderate way to voters. >> how far out does this take her politically? they're for gun rights, sportsmen rights, general second amendments but they're not the people that live out in idaho

and plan for the ultimate stand-off, you know. >> that's right. iowa's not the idaho panhandle, i agree with you, chris. and i think robert would agree with me, that yes, they're conservative out there, and yes, there's a conservative wing of the republican party, but i don't know that joni ernst, even when she was playing to the right, to lock in the republican nomination, needed to talk about having her gun to use against the government if necessary. you know, that was the kind of thing that was aiming at the emotional gut of the deep right wing of the right wing. i don't know that she had to do it, she did it. somebody who was there thought it was relevant, and that's how we got a hold of it. what it means in the campaign, i think it plays into braley's strategy. he's not ahead, he hasn't won yet in part because robert says,

joni ernst has performed well in the debates and come across at much more moderate in the general election. this -- if they make an ad out of this thing, it takes her back two years, and we'll see what happens in the last 12 days. >> well said. let's go to florida where rudy guiliani has scored a personal hit against charlie crist. giuliani believes crist double crossed him when he was the republican governor at the time. they thought they had his endorsement locked up, but days before the primary, crist endorsed mccain. now giuliani is out to settle the score. here's giuliani campaigning for the republican against crist. let's watch him. >> i've met people in politics that are wonderful. i've met people in politics that are okay. and i've met people in politics that i don't like. i've never met a person in politics that i disrespect more than charlie crist. >> you know what, sometimes

people show their teeth in politics, and they say, i don't forget, i remember, you screwed me. now you're in a close race, here i come. can rudy bring him down a notch or two? >> the fascinating thing about the florida gubernatorial, it's personal for crist. >> why do they hate him? >> mccain felt he was promised endorsement, so did giuliani. >> mccain got it. >> crist played the whole field, telling everybody he was going to be on their side. >> speaking with a forked tongue. >> yes. that's why in 2010, a lot of republicans wanted to burn him, and rallierarallied around -- >> what do you think of this street corner behavior? it reminds me of high school. he stole my girlfriend, you know. >> there are a lot of transplanted new yorkers down there. not sure how well rudy travels out of new york, but a lot of new yorkers in florida have brought new york with them. it's a close race.

so i don't think -- it certainly doesn't help crist in any way, and it may hurt him a little bit. >> rudy is something. anyway, thank you. what a memory. howard, by the way s out there in penguin country. steelers too. up next, a candidate for congress is going to the dogs. the politician and the puppy is coming up next in the side show, where it definitely belongs. this is "hardball," the place for politics. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. we created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side.

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imitation really is the highest form of flattery. up next, mike mcfadden is running behind al franken in minnesota. he's taking an unconventional approach this week, enlisting his daughter to get across the message that he's not much of a campaigner. here she go. >> i'm molly mcfadden, my dad mike mcfadden is running for senate. he really tries, but he's not very good at this political stuff. >> not good. >> problem is, dad's super honest. he works hard and he'd rather help people than attack them. >> call it a hail mary pass, but it's a strategy you don't often see in politics. up next, chris christie makes fun of the minimum wage and says republicans need to control the mechanism of voting. i get it, keep people's waging down, make it harder for them to vote. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. the equipment tracking system

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what a night, we have ebola possibly breaking out in new york and of course we have this violence on our border up in canada. back to "hardball" and time for the roundtable. "the washington post" robert costa rejoins us. michelle bernard of the bernard center for women and senior nbc news political reporter perry bacon. the pressure must be mounting on the gop because less than two weeks away from election day, we're starting to get a peek into their soul and it reeks of elitism. new jersey governor chris christie waded into the condescension this week. he said he's tired of hearing about the minimum wage. tired. >> i got to tell you the truth. i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage. i don't think there's a mother or father sitting around a kitchen table in america tonight and saying, you know, honey, if our son or daughter could just make a higher minimum wage, my god, all our dreams would be

realized. is that what parents aspire for their children? they aspire for their children to have much greater success than they've had, and that's not about a higher minimum wage, everybody. >> he also said republicans need to win governors races this year, guess why, so they can control, as he put it, the voting mechanisms in 2016. in other words, how people get to vote or not get to vote. >> what would you rather have, if you were a republican candidate and the nominee for president? would you rather have rick scott in florida overseeing the voting mechanism? or charlie crist? would you rather have scott walker in wisconsin overseeing the voting mechanism? or would you rather have mary burke? in ohio, john kasich, or ed fitzgerald? >> do you like the way he softened the tone for mary burke.

that had a right-wing smell to it. screw the little people and don't let them vote. how do you miss the message there? >> but the next election he's running is is the republican primary of 2016. >> why would that work? >> because republicans don't support the minimum wage. they do not support votsupport . this is who chris christie is, very direct, and blunt. >> i said he went down the middle. this isn't moderate. >> the speak he gave yesterday, i truly believe is completely bunk and by 2016, he'll be running away from it, as fast as he possibly can. there is something -- despite all of the gate and bridge problems that he has in new jersey, there's something about chris christie that is authentic and that people like. i don't believe that he meant what he said. he'll run away from it. he was polling at 30% in the

african american community, and he got 15 to 20% of the black vote in the last election. why on earth would any republican run away from it? he's the only republican right now that can get that many black people to vote for him? >> -- and the people that first of all, i think, he's talking like mitt romney. this thing about -- >> no. >> this is why. because if you're giving a speech to the young ceos of america, that's a good speech. but if you're giving it to regular people, hoping to make a regular amount of money and maybe a little more, they go what are you talking about? >> i'm surprised by christie. i went to a football game with him in camden. he was there with a largely african american community, talking about poverty -- >> which is mocking minimum wage? >> no, he wasn't. he was doing the soft touch. so i'm surprised. he seems to be soft, focused on poverty on one hand. then another day, he's bashing the minimum wage. >> i think it was inar tick lat,

purposely so because of the audience he was speaking to. there are a lot of parents who don't sit around and saying, i'm aspiring if are my son or daughter to make the minimum wage. what he forgot about is the part of the audience that makes the minimum wage and are trying to earn more money so they can pay for their children. >> michelle, let me ask you this. trying to be nice to the guy, fine. you're talking to an audience -- everybody knows from watching this show, the republican strategy has been, the party's largely a minority white party that's getting smaller. it's a fact. and people of color tend to be democrats. it's not racist. >> it's just the way it is. >> but when he says "control the mechanisms" what do you hear? >> the first thing i think is that cannot be the only republican in the country that gets black people to vote for him because what he just said sounded like code for, do not let black people vote. that's a huge problem. >> so i don't get your message. >> no, if he was polling at 30%

with african american voters, again, and he's the only republican in the country to do so, if he's going to be smart and he's going to run for president in 2016, he's got to get away from what he said yesterday. >> he's done a lot on prison sentencing. so i think it's a complicated message. he has this hard message in front of the chamber. but in the state, he was with the naacp, giving a speech about bail reform and getting people out of prison. >> bottom line he's smart enough to know in a general election doesn't get him any black votes or latino or anyone who's not white. >> i'm from the same place and this sense of mr. tough guy. a lot of it we like, because there's so much bs in politics, and so much charming people into voting for them. a lot of these guys are good at it. this guy doesn't charm you or patronize you. he challenges you and says none of your business and leave me

alone on the personal stuff. we like a little bit of that, but not the full load. >> only in iowa. it shows that christie has very high unfavorable ratings already. much higher than mitt romney. you and i, i like a little feisty. not sure if people in iowa do. not sure how well that style is it going to wear at the national stage. >> i think i'm "hardball" and that's sunday morning. anyway, roundtable's coming back to talk about what's going to turn this election around the next day. what are the issues? ebola? isis? what happened in canada? maybe in new york city with the new person contracting the disease and showing it by tonight? what's going to move this election in a week and a half? we'll be right back with the panel. textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.

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you combine that with the cell phone factor, not become able to get to the right people, i do think all of these races are just razor thin at the moment. >> is that bad news for the liberals? because conservatives tend to be more suspicious? >> i think it could be. i think it could be. but i also thinker, you know, riegtsd now, the party in the white house is going to be at a disadd advantage tang, just going in there. and i think that's probably what's going to save the republicans just going in. >> that works the other way in the governor's races where you is incouple bant governors where they're playing defense. >> that's what i was going to stalk about. the incumbents are the problem. people not excited about mitch mcconnell. in new hampshire, he's been campaigning there for a long time there. the people are still not sure, but they say're not excited. people are undecided because they don't love their incumbents. they're not sure what to do next. this governor race is a little

different because rick scott and scott brown are both polarized. >> a big night for the republy caps. if scott brown winnings, scott walker wins. >> don't you think there's a possibility that undecided are just not going to vote? i think there's a large part of the pop ewe lus that just isn't skpieted, i don't to upset you, but excited about who they got to volt for. democrats have done well in midterms and they've also done poorly in midterms. i think this might be a referendum on the president. what happens nationally over the next week and a half, how the president handles it. you've got people telling pollsters, although they voted for the president stwies, they're volting for a republican this time because they're not happy. >> perry's point about the governors being polarizing, that

means their base is going to show up. and that is going to be a big difference. i think the base voters will show up. and i think, marly speaking in georgia and some of the other southern states, that harry reid and barack obama are the issue. they may not have that enthusiasm or passion for the challenger or the outsider or the republican, but the reality is they're tired of harry reid. >> georgia's a hard state. i have a scent that bill clinton and hillary clinton are now thinking of the southern states they can win next time. they're spending time with alison grimes down in kentucky. he's going to carry that. he carried arkansas. he wants that back. he wants tennessee. does he want your state? he got it once. gh and you may remember that james carvell, his consultant was al miller, the governor of ga fwa's consultant, as well. bill clinton knows georgia. but the reality is, hillary is not bill clinton. and i think that's going to be a

big difference. >> senator clinton gave barack obama a run for his money in states like ohio and in pennsylvania and those white, working class volters that the president spoke about as clinging to their gubs and clining to fear. they didn't like him, but they liked hillary clinton. j e. >> i hate to tell you, but the crisis was there long before that comment. >> georgia, black vote. increasing hispanic voter. kentucky, arkansas, hillary clinton is not going to win those states. kba ga is a moving. nunn and carter are both going to be there. >>. it's machine voting in that case. and i think the minority of messages, let's get out and vote, sunday vote and all of that. but i want to mention in terms of those people who cling to their guns, those are my folks. we will show up and we will vote against harry reid.

and hihhary, we do not believe to be bill. >> my people are going to show up, too. so we're going to see. [ laughter ] >> michelle bernard, thank you for joibing us. and my friend, perry bacon. when we return, the test e terrorists threat of the future may come down to the need to con front a single man with a gun. the nra is going to like this one. you're watching "hardball", the place for politics. (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise,

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this new world we inhabit. i remember going to the movies in israel back in the early '70s when i was living over this for a while. and i remember the site of the israeli soldier sitting next to me and the uzi she had next to her. this was just after the years of the six-day war. even though it was clear to the world that all the arabs were still not going to deisrael. the often suicidal act of violence meant to cripple national morale. of course, it did nothing of the kind. and, again, yesterday, we saw the proud defiance of the canadian people. the day after the terrorists killing the country's war memorial. it's much like that today as it was with the americans back in 9/11. what's changed now is the scale and wildness of the attacks. yesterday was one guy doing the work and getting killed for it. it was the case of an individual, lone wolf getting himself triggered up to go out and made good at his jihadist purpose. one person doing evil all by

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