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from meals to transportation to lodging, the sharing economy is booming, aided by digital technology. how this entrepreneurial phenomenon has become the fastest growing sector of the service industry, and the challenges owners face due to increased regulations. that's all coming up next, on "your business." small businesses are revitalizing the economy. and american express open is here to help. that's why we are proud to present "your business" on msnbc.
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hi there, everyone. i'm j.j. ramberg and welcome to "your business." if you've taken a ride using uber, or stayed in a place using airbnb you are officially a member of the sharing economy. but those are just the big names. this new way of doing business is turning all kinds of industries on their heads. i find it totally fascinating. and as small business owners it makes a lot of sense to take a hard look at what people are doing, because who knows, it may inspire us all to take a look at our own business plans and resources, and see how we can use them differently. it's 7:00 p.m. on a thursday night. and sophie's fear is hosting a
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dinner party at her mission district house in san francisco. >> it's a pleasure to have people both who i know, and who i don't know. >> it may not look like it, but sophie is a microentrepreneur. playing her part in the local sharing economy. and business is good. >> i'm pleased to be able to cook for you. it's not really about the food so much for me as having people join me at my table. so -- although i hope you enjoy the soup. >> to chef sophie. >> cheers. >> on the guest list, 12 people who went on feastly, a mail sharing service to find an interesting place to have dinner and meet new people. >> super good. >> each of her guests have paid $52 for a sophisticated home-cooked meal. and while she loves to cook, holding these feastly dinners serves another purpose, as well. it allows her to test out recipes for the cafe she may one day open, as well as make a little cash on the side while she's between jobs. >> a majority of these meals are
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happening in people's homes. and that's typically because that's the space that they have available to them. there's a sacredness about a home that you don't really find in any commercial space that really enables you to connect with the people around you, as well as the cook. >> after hosting 15 meals on feastly, sophie has earned a stellar reputation as a terrific cook and host. >> i have really seen my brand explode, and i do have to thank feastly for that in the sense that it's created this platform for me. they've helped me reach a broader audience and also with the payment system, it makes it a lot easier for me, a lot smoother for me to manage the meal on the back end. >> meal sharing, car services, house swapping, maker spaces, fashion rentals, the list of companies building businesses based on sharing rather than owning is a trend that is promising to be the future of business. >> the crowd is not just creating media and sharing it they're creating the physical world and sharing it. >> we're living through a really, really interesting fundamental shift in which
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access to talent, goods, and services will trump ownership. >> they call it the sharing economy. the collaborative economy. the rental economy. and the mesh. but they all mean essentially the same thing. a new way of doing business, where the traditional buy, sell, own idea changes to an on demand model connecting us to the things we need, only when we actually need them. >> a lot of what the collaborative economy is doing is tapping in to this waste of excess capacity. so there's excess capacity in the form of talent. people who have incredible skills, who aren't bringing that forward. but also, factories sitting around, cars in space, driveways extra space on ships for cargo. and also, for example, real estate. >> tristan pollock saw on opportunity to start a business using the sharing economy every time he walked by an empty retail store. >> we saw one in stores tanking in the u.s. >> his idea called the
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storefront is a simple platform that connects entrepreneurs with short-term retail space. the site has tons of photos, and clear pricing for utilizing locations that would otherwise be empty. >> i always explain storefront as storefront is a marketplace for artists, designers, and brands to get into short-term retail spaces. because, historically, you are looking at five to ten-year leases, maybe even 20 years, and so being able to rent something from one to two three days, or a couple weeks, or a couple months, makes a huge difference in how you can strategically plan to grow your business. >> so, what's the opportunity for entrepreneurs? to turn waste or unutilized assets into cash by sharing. ahead was the curve was craigslist, zipcard, netflix and ebay. but the rise of the mobile phone in social media has added a level of complexity and opportunity to the equation. >> what was okay before to have kind of these things sitting around unused, now it's not okay.
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either because the people would prefer to have the value, the money from it, or it's kind of increasingly not cool to be kind of hoarding things that have value. >> one company that is actually teaching kids to share their toys rather than hoard them is pley. parents know how legos can take over a household. one set is never enough. and there's always a new, bigger, better, cooler set that your kids yearn for, just as soon as they finish building their current one. enter pley. a lego sharing company. >> it's a netflix for lego. we're in a time that people understand netflix. understand if you can send a product and get it back, which was not true ten years ago. so it's not about how many lego sets that i have. it's about how many lego sets that i built, and what's the enjoyment and my development that i got through this experience of building those lego sets. we provide the same experience
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with -- for about 40% to 70% less of spending. >> pley offers a novel solution. they box up, sterilize and count every last piece in a set. and send it out to you. after your kids build it and then inevitably forget about it, you return it and get a new one. >> in a way that is more convenient and i think very importantly now, people understand the importance of being eco-friendly. preserving the resources of the world. so reducing waste is a very big component to us and for many, many people. >> and while companies like uber, lyft, taskrabbit and airbnb have broken through the noise, making headlines for lower prices and better service, they are also the first to go through the growing pains of a new and somewhat unregulated business model that is based on trust. >> roberto says he was trying to do the safe and responsible thing by taking uber home that night. >> to do that, and then wake up
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in the icu is something that i hope nobody has to go through. >> you can't offer this kind of service out into the marketplace, reap all the benefits and profits, and not take the responsibility. >> in the collaborative economy, trust is a core currency. and i think that it's also fair to say that in any system, once in awhile you'll have a bad actor. there are increasing policies, regulations, insurance coverage, things being brought forward by the either regulatory systems, but also by the marketplace themselves, in case something happens. >> as more sharing businesses emerge, so does the opportunity to create new businesses, and renew old ones. >> we're very, very early in the shift. and while many businesses have gotten brand recognition, it's still really early days. and so, for example, for every
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airbnb there's thousands of smaller companies that are taking a specific crack at a market, and doing really well. >> sharing economy businesses are disrupting industries both online and off. we've got a great board of directors here to talk about this today. corie hardee is the founder and ceo of little borrowed dress an e-commerce company that offers bridesmaid dresses for rent. alfred edmund is the senior vice president and chief content officer for black enterprise and rieva lesonsky is the founder and ceo of grow business media. all right, corie i want to start with you. because you are it. you are this is the sharing economy what you do. and it's interesting what you said about your business is, this is not about income levels. >> no. >> so you rent bridesmaid dresses so i don't have to spend hundreds of dollars buying a dress i'm going to wear once. who is your audience? >> it's really less about an income demographic and more just a state of mind.
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it's been everyone from a younger -- a younger person who had just graduated college whose friends might not be able to afford it, all the way up to maybe, you know, you're getting married at an older age, and your friends have been through it already. i think universally no woman wants to buy a bridesmaid dress. >> is this a shift that is -- i mean it is fundamentally changing the way we think about things, the pley company, legos, if i can rent legos, am i going to be renting everything all of us who have small businesses that sell things or services, should we be thinking about this? >> i think absolutely. i think it's a matter of -- this woman said it in the piece. if you can build that trust with the consumer, people are willing -- because they get bored. kids get bored. everybody gets bored. you want something new, and here's a way to try it, and it's also a great way, if you have a store, a retail store, or even a service business, to try things out. to see what works, and then
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maybe make that part of our permanent business, and then try something else. and it's a cheap, easy way to experiment, and you're not committing to anything. >> and you know, alfred i sort of divided it into two. there's something like corie's doing where you are using resources over and over again. and then there's also something like uber is doing, where they're creating all of these kind of microentrepreneurs. >> you've got two different trends. uber says, and we know 92% of cars just sit. everybody's cars just sit most of the time. and of course that's unused capacity that you can monetize. the flip side, i like the point about this anti-hoarding thing, legos is the epitome of just stuff piles up and you get new stuff. >> welcome to my house. >> so this idea that another value is the value of space. and this idea that you can get some things out to make room for new things, and just makes it a very efficient, cost effective way of doing that while still meeting the needs of other people in the trust network. >> corie, have attitudes changed? >> definitely. we every year we do a wedding
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show where thousands of brides come through and the first year we did it, it was a lot of people were like, how does this work? what is this? and then by this past year it's less explaining, more about the rental model, and more just saying, here are dresses and customers know, you know, they like the idea of renting. >> you know, i love fashion and style. and one of the trends that i think you're taking advantage of, also, is the whole casualization of fashion. 30 years ago, you might say well i'll keep this dress, maybe my daughter can wear it to the prom, maybe i can wear it to something. now there are so few things that you're really going to, you know, gown up for, that the idea of keeping something like that around for any purpose is just not as sensible. >> i think a little bit of it is generational. if you go back a few years with the millennials, they're all of a sudden thrift stores became really cool. it was not the vintage part. just like everyday salvation army goodwill. and it was kind of a recycling thing. it's like we don't want to let things go to waste. >> right. >> and i think that's the new
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mind-set. and it is, it's sort of like you said, let's not waste things. let's get what we need, and then pass it on. >> right. all right. well, it's so fun to talk about. i am so fascinated by it. i do everything that i can share. so thank you for joining us to tell us a little bit about your company. >> thank you for having me. >> though it's get being so much attention right now, the actual concept of a sharing economy is not a new one. for many years, commercial cooperatives have allowed small businesses to increase their purchasing power and reduce marketing and hr expenses. as we found out, co-ops are giving independent businesses a shot at growing and surviving by working together. >> carpet stores were closing up like flies around here. i said there's not going to be us. >> fran, an independent carpet store owner in detroit, michigan, is certainly a realist when it comes to business. >> we were in desperate, desperate shape.
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but we just hung on, and worked hard, cut back some salaries, cut back some help. >> the big boxes were coming in. the lowe's and home depot were coming in. they were taking most categories, and monopolizing them. and really putting the locals out of business. >> howard, founder and ceo of cca partners is a fighter. located in manchester, new hampshire, his organization helps the small fries. >> the local, independent business person has the brains, and they have the talent. what they don't have is scale. >> individually, none of these small businesses has much buying power. but together, as members of the cca retail cooperative, they can compete with anybody. >> you have to level the playing field. and i think what we do is we level the playing field so we have the same tools and the same scale as the big boxes. >> the carpet one cooperative membership is made up of more than 1100 flooring retailers. >> when we buy something we're
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buying it at "x" amount. i have no idea what the guy down the street is buying it for but there's no way we can buy it. >> when you factor in the other industry cooperatives managed by cca partners you realize howard's retail cooperative is a very, very large business. >> we're actually bigger than starbucks. we're bigger than bed, bath&beyond. that's our combined all the different divisions we have. within cca global partners. >> for them, membership in the carpet one cooperative gives then the extra leverage necessary to get the price breaks they need to survive. >> you own your own store. but you buy your merchandise as a co-op with all these other dealers. >> kathy buchanan is fran's daughter. she's one of three siblings who now one the day-to-day operations. >> it's too yellow. have a roll of the sandstorm, as well. >> this is probably sell for about $4 a square foot.
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but i have it at about $2.2 a square foot because i bought it at an amazing price point. i can in turn turn that savings over to the consumer. >> as co-op members, they're also the shareholders. twice a year they divide up the profits and receive rebate checks that collectively total into the millions. by pooling their buying power this way, these carpet one members have managed to survive the recession much better than non-members. >> if they were not members of the co-op first of all they would be paying more for their product on the floor because they would not have the scale. second they would be paying more for insurance, they'd be paying more for marketing, and they would have less sophisticated marketing. >> regularly posting relevant material on topics that your clients care about is an effective way to set yourself up as an expert in your industry. if you'd like an easier way to scour the web for useful links check out our website of the week. it allows you to scan life
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broadcasts, video, and blogs for active content. you can search by key words that relate to your business from viral videos to howto links. you can choose which categories and terms to follow to make it easier for you. signage in and around your store can go a long way in catching the eye of potential customers, and getting them to make a purchase. here now are five things to keep in mind when creating a sign that works, courtesy of business news daily dotcom. one, be bold and concise. people will generally view a graphic for only 20 seconds, so make the most of a quick glance. two, highlight the differences. the features of your business that make your company stand out from the competition should be front and center. three, include a call to action. phrases like limited time offer, and try a taste will effectively draw potential customers in. four, train employees to test results. have them ask your customers
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things like how did you hear about us? and what brings you in today, to monitor and track how your signage is working. and five, attract attention. make your colors bright, your images big, and refresh your signage regularly so you keep your business top of mind with customers. today, freelancers are easier to hire than ever. there are a number of websites set up to help you connect with them. not to mention if you just simply ask around, chances are you'd be able to find someone with the skill you need. so if you are overwhelmed with work, and you need some temporary help or just need a project done with a skill that your team doesn't have, think about hiring a freelancer. jeffrey wald is the co-founder cfo and kroo of work market. they bring freelancers, contractors and consultants together with companies to help them manage their work sbel gently. it's so great to see you. you wear a lot of hats. >> i do. when you're a founder of a company you have to make sure everything gets done. >> believe me i know, i know.
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so this is great, we hire a lot of freelancers in what i do. and, and so this is really helpful. it's not a matter of just saying hey come work for me, forms to fill out so you need the tools in place. >> you have to make sure that the freelancers that you onboard meet the compliance of not only your company, but of the government. right. so our customers you want to make sure the right legal agreements are signed the right insurance is had the right background checks and when someone's insurance expires that they're removed from their environment so they don't accidentally engage with somebody that would be inappropriate. >> just think that you don't think about when -- you seem great. >> that is true. >> right at the end of the year comes they're gone you need them and you don't have them and now you need to go track them down. >> you got to make sure people fill out the w-9, they're in compliance with not only the w-9 provisions and the 1099 provisions but anything your company set the to make sure it is comfortable engaging these people. >> the best advice someone gave me is the day they have them fill out that w-9 is because it's easy as a small company to
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forget about it use tracking mechanisms for their performance so you're hiring someone, you are paying them, >> yes. >> you better make sure they're doing their job. >> tracking mechanisms are going to be very different depending on how many freelancers are engaged. if you're using two or three freelancers, you're going to manage them with excel. you're going to manage them by relationships. you need to make sure everything is happening and at that point you start to need to use data. >> okay, you need to think about these things. >> you've got to track it. have a mobile device. you can't just start to use excel you have to use much more powerful software.freelancers ae until our software was developed. >> identify subject matter experts. it's good to have a pool of
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freelafre freelancers you can call upon. >> it takes 12 freelancers to replace one full-time employee. when you go to engage that freelancer you have a pool of people ready to go at any given time. you can do that with a large pool of people and then break down that process into its component parts. you want someone an expert at pr and someone that is an expert at seo and sem, because you're breaking that full-time employee into its component parts you can get subject matter experts that can bring a higher level of expertise to that one area. >> i find this interesting because full-time employee, you're going to invest a lot. you are paying them a lot, they're here to stay. a freelancer, you want them to get the job done, but you still have to onboard them. they still have to understand what they're doing in order to care. >> they have to meet your provisions.
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you don't want to onboard somebody and find out they didn't sign the right legal agreement. having a process in place and did this person fill out a w-9, bank account information, did they run a background check? you have to be able to go through that process and if you're doing it for two or three people, relationships can drive it. when you do it for 100 a day, you have to have a tight process. >> even when you're doing it for two to three people, sometimes things get lost. you hire them, they're on and you start their project. you have to tell whoever is in charge of this, make sure all of this is done before they start working on anything. >> the calls we get from potential customers are, i engage these ten freelancers and i found out a guy's insurance lapsed. i need a tighter process. can you please help us implement your software? >> thank you so much for coming on. i think this is really important as we all hire more freelancers.
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when we come back, alfred and reeba have the answers to your small business questions on hiring innovative thinkers and inspiring passion in your sales people. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions. if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members, but it's open for everyone. there's not one way to do something. no details too small. american express open forum. this is what membership is. this is what membership does.
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>> if you really and truly put the employee first, really and truly, they will take better care of the customer than anybody else. the better you take care of your people, the better they'll take care of the customer. and, you know, a customer that is ridiculously well taken care of and loves your store, is going to make sure the economics of that works well. it is time now to answer some of your business questions. alfred and reva are back with us, again. i want to see innovative thinking and execution in my company. are innovative thinkers for hire or could they be groomed by creating an innovative culture within the company? such a good question. i want to start with you. >> the question puts the emphasis on the wrong syllable. the truth is you can hire or groom them, but the issue is not the people, it's the culture. if it's not a culture that is friendly to invasion, then the
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innovators will leave and the other people will find out not a good place for invasion. here is how you can tell, are you punished when it doesn't work? are you punished when it's a mistake or are you rewarded or encouraged with coming up with more new ideas. making sure you have innovative culture than the people in the culture will react to that and attract innovative people. >> i think this is easy. it's easy to do when you're starting something. what if you have been around for 15 years. you have a certain way of doing things in your company. should you hire someone to shake it up or start talking to the people who are already there? >> i think you can do both. you can hire somebody and to shake it up. but if you don't have that culture, the people who are there are going to resent this person because it was like, wait, why didn't you give me, i have ideas, you never encouraged me to share them. resentment builds up and nothing ever works. you cannot get away from the
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culture, whether you're starting or whether you're in business. you know, my philosophy and it's not original to me is you constantly have to be looking at what's the next thing? the day you're satisfied is the day your business is going to stop growing. and invasion cnovation can only in a growing area. >> what do you do see? >> the death of a business is not bankruptcy. the death of a business is irrelevancy. a lot of businesses that go on and on and on and on because they're just satisfy would the way they do things. they're operational, but they're not doing anything important. you have to have innovation if you grow and thrive. >> the worst words are, we always said it this way, someone is coming up to do it a different way. >> let's move on to the next question. people being sued into sell your product. >> i was wondering what kind of avenues i should look out for to find people that will be able to passionately sell my products
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like i can. >> we did a piece on this about how you find good sales people. it is hard, i'm passionate about my product, how do i know you're going to bring the same passion. >> you will not find the person selling it from the heart, but you have to find people with good sales skills and expose them to the product and maybe have them fall in love a little bit, but never as enveloped in the product as you are. you'll never find anyone that can live up to that. as long as people have the right skills and understand what your product is, let them lose and don't sit on their shoulders saying, i would have said it this way. they'll never feel comfortable and they'll never be able to naturally, organically sell. >> here's a good source of possible people who do share your passion. look at your customers. look at people who love the product because their customers are the product. and some of your best sales people may be actual customers
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who already love your product and you can find ways to get them involved with helping them solve the product. >> the story who founded the company that what she started to do is create videos so that when her sales people go out, she's basically bringing them with them. then the ultimate customer, too. >> there are ways to duplicate yourself, especially in the ways of social media and how easy it is to put together constant. a great idea. >> thank you so much for coming on the show today. an amazing resource for information. i really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thank you, all, so much for joining us today. if you missed anything from the show, head over to our website, it's openforum.com/yourbusiness. you'll find all of today's segments with with information to help your business grow and follow us on twitter @ msnbcyourbiz and facebook and
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ins instagram, as well. we look at how communities around the country are getting customers to shop local. including a carlsbad, california, company giving restaurant tours. >> i think the tour has been a great promotional opportunity for us. many people that go to the tour didn't even know that we existed here on the corner. >> how bringing diners to main street is having a ripple effect and getting folks to shop small. until then, i'm j.j. ramberg and, remember, we make your business our business. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions. if you mess up, fess up. be your partners best partner. we built it for our members, but it's open for everyone.
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